After seeing your playtime, I'm surprised you're not in a coma, let alone alive. I'm kind of curious how you managed to play 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight. Something about that doesn't sound legit. If it is, I highly suggest you enjoy the real world a little more often.
Pretty much. Guy probably has over 700 hours in now. The title is a laugh. Where are the guys who always love to divide hours played to money spent to invent some 'value'. 700 bucks (and counting more than likely even though he hates the game) divided by 40 or whatever he may have spent is still 'cheap' entertainment for the guys who love that crazy type of math.
But people who spend 20 hours a day in a game cant find it that horrible. Especially for two weeks straight. I have played it off and on for awhile so I am not sure if there is an auto kick or not. So maybe his time is based on just AFK farming hours (for whatever reason). But that surely doesnt help his argument about how horrible the game is.
I was a major critic of the game. One of the first testers of it actually (when everyone was selling their first born for an invite). I was scathing on the official forums. I didnt even buy it on release. But it is one of the only MMOs to actually improve itself (greatly) and increase its playerbase after the initial crush of release. That is a miracle in and of itself.
People can question the changes they make (every game makes/made class changes people hate(d), it was a staple of MMOs when they were relevant), stuff also is sold that people can question (again name a game that doesnt sell shit).
For what it is ESO is probably the best option out there now. But it benefits from a total lack of competition. What is there WOW? BDO? LOTRO? FFXIV? SWOTOR? RIFT? GW2? I am just reeling off games that might possibly be considered MMOS that are even slightly relevant. Look at that list, half of them are close to a decade old, some over a decade old. Others are Koreans grinders. ESO at just over five years old is the latest MMO that has come out that even registers.
MMOS are dead, and coming in here and bashing the last one and one of the few to actually improve is obvious trolling. People can have all the opinions they want, but some of the stuff in the OP was outright fabrication and add that to the total hours played and more specifically the hours played in a 2 week period and its extremely obvious.
Ok...LOL...You say you played the game 2 months but yet you say in your original post that you got the game a month ago.....HAHA...I call bullshit....LMAO
i don't agree with what he posted, thats not my experience at all.. but he said he bought the game a month after he read reviews here etc... not he was playing for a month
for all we know he bought the game 3 months ago which was a month after he read reviews here and decided to take t he plunge.. he played for 2 months sat on it for a month and decided to post
just pointing out that he didnt say he bought it a month ago.. thats not the timeline that was said.
Dude read his first post " I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild" He did say he BOUGHT it a month ago.....
It was a typo, no point in fixing it now with the re-posts. Obviously I didn't play 600+ hours in a month.
But your image said you played 283 hours in the last two weeks.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
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Gotta say to me it sound like classic case of burn out by playing WAY too much. Obviously liked the game enough to spent "24/7" playing it for whole two months (wow).Then when the inevitable fatigue comes he looks for flaws, because it's obviously the game's fault it's unable to satisfy his addiction anymore.
ESO when it first launched, sure, i didn't rate the game at all. One Tamriel changed things dramatically, i do have issues with the game, particularly the magic system, the combat system could have been better too, but overall, its not a game i wouldn't recommend to someone who was interested in playing a fantasy based MMO. The game is stable from what i have seen over the last few months, and while i haven't been to cyrodiil at all, i have found the players to generally be fairly friendly, the game could stand to be 'remastered' a bit to improve character graphics etc. but its not that big of a deal, the graphics are 'good enough'. ESO these days is a pretty good game, it stands up well in comparison to other MMO's so much so that i think it easily belongs in the top 5 MMO's currently available. So if someone thinks the game is a waste of money, then i would have to ask, 'compared to what?'
Ok...LOL...You say you played the game 2 months but yet you say in your original post that you got the game a month ago.....HAHA...I call bullshit....LMAO
i don't agree with what he posted, thats not my experience at all.. but he said he bought the game a month after he read reviews here etc... not he was playing for a month
for all we know he bought the game 3 months ago which was a month after he read reviews here and decided to take t he plunge.. he played for 2 months sat on it for a month and decided to post
just pointing out that he didnt say he bought it a month ago.. thats not the timeline that was said.
Dude read his first post " I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild" He did say he BOUGHT it a month ago.....
It was a typo, no point in fixing it now with the re-posts. Obviously I didn't play 600+ hours in a month.
But your image said you played 283 hours in the last two weeks.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
Either that or he has had a bot playing for him and has hardly experienced ESO at all.
ESO may not be worth buying unless you have low expectations. I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild. First off, the combat is pretty eh. The trials (raids are 12 man) and are once again not that complicated. Regular groups are 4 people which kind of sucks cause I played with 6 often and we always felt unable to play content together, i.e. dungeons. The thing is that 90% of folks in ESO are all damage dealers. The dungeon "queue" system is built to allocate 2 dps, 1 healer, and a tank. If you play a dps class you an expect 30 minute wait times. What is worse... is that very regularly this queue system is broken. It won't even work and its usually during peak hours.
The BUGS in-game are horrendous. I've made ticket after ticket and the support literally closes the tickets and tells me to go post in the bug forums. I've had 3 posts in the bug forums about issues which are replicated by MANY and no response from Zenimax staff. Not to mention the forums are over-crowded with ESO Fan Boys who tell you bugs aren't a big deal. There doesn't appear to be any professional support system for the game at all ... which is scary ... as it has quite the price tag.
The PvP is honestly terrible. Battlegrounds are just people mindlessly running around mashing button and the time-to-kill (how quickly you can kill someone) is very very quick. I could one shot many folks, and I did repeatedly. I also got one shot repeatedly myself, so if you are looking for a skill based game... this isn't it sadly.
Finally, I did the open world PvP (non-champion level) with a very nice build. I had capped resists and impen on every piece of my armor. I was sitting at 33K resists in combat and guess what? You still get one shot. You have no time to react, even when dodging, or blocking. You will see someone... and either you instantly kill them or they instantly kill you. Everyone builds pure DPS. Being a healer in PvP just ain't a thing, or a tank.
Just take my advice... if you wanna PvP don't buy this game. If you like really difficult PvE content... it may keep your attention for a month or two. That's about it. It's not Dark Ages of Camelot and its not Everquest by any means.
The Elsweyr expansion had a cool starting area... but its almost a joke. The entire expansion area is super small. When you open your map by pressing "M" you will see a dragon that flys around that people can kill. When it dies... guess what... the same dragon spawns and flys around again... so you can kill it... again ... and again... and that is it. There is like 5 new sets of armor which are pretty basic. It's a joke really I am super disappointed in the entire game. My personal opinion is the developers are milking it for money at this point. I think its a game suited more for young kids, 10-15 age range.
Best of luck.
Since your going to repeat your post from another thread I will repeat mine,
This seems to be written by someone who didn't play the game long. Even people who hate the game will tell you that ESO has the best PVP in a MMO right now. Its fantastic and I don't even like PVP.
Elsweyr is small but so is Summerset and Morrowwind. They just had a massive unexplorable landmass somewhere on there map. So Elsweyr just appears that way. Bigger isn't always better. What they do with the small space is truly special. Not only that but when I fight dragons I have seen a few different ones now. However, there are only 8 so yes odds are your going to fight the same one again at some point. Read more at https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/481378/elder-scrolls-online-elsweyr-is-meow-velous-so-far-mmorpg-com/p3#pwDjXAq5hHX0c4mI.99
How is chaining together animation cancellation of skills the best PvP out right now?
After seeing your playtime, I'm surprised you're not in a coma, let alone alive. I'm kind of curious how you managed to play 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight. Something about that doesn't sound legit. If it is, I highly suggest you enjoy the real world a little more often.
i already explained why it may look like that.. it's probably 2 weeks and 6 days but hadn't hit 3 weeks yet so it says 2 weeks... when in fact it's 20 days which is a bit more realistic for hours per day.
As I said later... I am not sure what animation cancelling is haha? I don't believe I have ever used it and I have never looked into it... It doesn't bother me enough. However I terrible when it comes to that kind of stuff. When people start talking about game engines, unreal vs unity, etc... I get lost
it's exactly what it sounds like... you weave abilities into your light / heavy attacks to cast more per minute
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
As I said later... I am not sure what animation cancelling is haha? I don't believe I have ever used it and I have never looked into it... It doesn't bother me enough. However I terrible when it comes to that kind of stuff. When people start talking about game engines, unreal vs unity, etc... I get lost
it's exactly what it sounds like... you weave abilities into your light / heavy attacks to cast more per minute
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
Close but not quite.
Abilities can cancel light attack animations but not heavy attack animations.
The left mouse button attacks have 3 states: light, medium and heavy attacks and they register the actual amount of time you hold down the LMB without anything else happening. If you try to cancel a heavy what you end-up with is at best a medium if you let it play out long enough but most of the time it'll register as a light attack with its corresponding damage.
Besides that, heavy attacks are used more for their resource regen properties than the damage they do and the resource regen only happens if it registers as a full heavy attack. This is why no one cancels heavy attacks.
And no, light attacks do not animation cancel abilities. The only things that cancel the animation of abilities are blocks, bashes and ability bar swaps.
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As I said later... I am not sure what animation cancelling is haha? I don't believe I have ever used it and I have never looked into it... It doesn't bother me enough. However I terrible when it comes to that kind of stuff. When people start talking about game engines, unreal vs unity, etc... I get lost
it's exactly what it sounds like... you weave abilities into your light / heavy attacks to cast more per minute
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
Close but not quite.
Abilities can cancel light attack animations but not heavy attack animations.
The left mouse button attacks have 3 states: light, medium and heavy attacks and they register the actual amount of time you hold down the LMB without anything else happening. If you try to cancel a heavy what you end-up with is at best a medium if you let it play out long enough but most of the time it'll register as a light attack with its corresponding damage.
Besides that, heavy attacks are used more for their resource regen properties than the damage they do and the resource regen only happens if it registers as a full heavy attack. This is why no one cancels heavy attacks.
And no, light attacks do not animation cancel abilities. The only things that cancel the animation of abilities are blocks, bashes and ability bar swaps.
they definitely can cancel heavy if you do the timing right.
I can also animation cancel several abilities on my sorc.
As I said later... I am not sure what animation cancelling is haha? I don't believe I have ever used it and I have never looked into it... It doesn't bother me enough. However I terrible when it comes to that kind of stuff. When people start talking about game engines, unreal vs unity, etc... I get lost
it's exactly what it sounds like... you weave abilities into your light / heavy attacks to cast more per minute
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
Close but not quite.
Abilities can cancel light attack animations but not heavy attack animations.
The left mouse button attacks have 3 states: light, medium and heavy attacks and they register the actual amount of time you hold down the LMB without anything else happening. If you try to cancel a heavy what you end-up with is at best a medium if you let it play out long enough but most of the time it'll register as a light attack with its corresponding damage.
Besides that, heavy attacks are used more for their resource regen properties than the damage they do and the resource regen only happens if it registers as a full heavy attack. This is why no one cancels heavy attacks.
And no, light attacks do not animation cancel abilities. The only things that cancel the animation of abilities are blocks, bashes and ability bar swaps.
they definitely can cancel heavy if you do the timing right
You have to actually hold it for a set amount of time for both the regen and heavy attack damage to register. You _could_ macro it since the timings for different weapons are known but I challenge anyone to cancel heavy attacks consistently without fucking them up 90% of thte time and losing out on the all important resource regen... which is the only reason anyone even bothers to heavy attack in the first place.
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As I said later... I am not sure what animation cancelling is haha? I don't believe I have ever used it and I have never looked into it... It doesn't bother me enough. However I terrible when it comes to that kind of stuff. When people start talking about game engines, unreal vs unity, etc... I get lost
it's exactly what it sounds like... you weave abilities into your light / heavy attacks to cast more per minute
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
Close but not quite.
Abilities can cancel light attack animations but not heavy attack animations.
The left mouse button attacks have 3 states: light, medium and heavy attacks and they register the actual amount of time you hold down the LMB without anything else happening. If you try to cancel a heavy what you end-up with is at best a medium if you let it play out long enough but most of the time it'll register as a light attack with its corresponding damage.
Besides that, heavy attacks are used more for their resource regen properties than the damage they do and the resource regen only happens if it registers as a full heavy attack. This is why no one cancels heavy attacks.
And no, light attacks do not animation cancel abilities. The only things that cancel the animation of abilities are blocks, bashes and ability bar swaps.
they definitely can cancel heavy if you do the timing right
You have to actually hold it for a set amount of time for both the regen and heavy attack damage to register. You _could_ macro it since the timings for different weapons are known but I challenge anyone to cancel heavy attacks consistently without fucking them up 90% of thte time and losing out on the all important resource regen... which is the only reason anyone even bothers to heavy attack in the first place.
my macros are just for light attacks anyway it's not that big of a deal, it just is possible to do more than just light attacks.
Ok...LOL...You say you played the game 2 months but yet you say in your original post that you got the game a month ago.....HAHA...I call bullshit....LMAO
i don't agree with what he posted, thats not my experience at all.. but he said he bought the game a month after he read reviews here etc... not he was playing for a month
for all we know he bought the game 3 months ago which was a month after he read reviews here and decided to take t he plunge.. he played for 2 months sat on it for a month and decided to post
just pointing out that he didnt say he bought it a month ago.. thats not the timeline that was said.
Dude read his first post " I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild" He did say he BOUGHT it a month ago.....
It was a typo, no point in fixing it now with the re-posts. Obviously I didn't play 600+ hours in a month.
But your image said you played 283 hours in the last two weeks.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
Either that or he has had a bot playing for him and has hardly experienced ESO at all.
i don't actually think there is any bots for ESO... i know there was a few at launch but i think because things were so bad most of them died off
Ok...LOL...You say you played the game 2 months but yet you say in your original post that you got the game a month ago.....HAHA...I call bullshit....LMAO
i don't agree with what he posted, thats not my experience at all.. but he said he bought the game a month after he read reviews here etc... not he was playing for a month
for all we know he bought the game 3 months ago which was a month after he read reviews here and decided to take t he plunge.. he played for 2 months sat on it for a month and decided to post
just pointing out that he didnt say he bought it a month ago.. thats not the timeline that was said.
Dude read his first post " I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild" He did say he BOUGHT it a month ago.....
It was a typo, no point in fixing it now with the re-posts. Obviously I didn't play 600+ hours in a month.
But your image said you played 283 hours in the last two weeks.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
Either that or he has had a bot playing for him and has hardly experienced ESO at all.
i don't actually think there is any bots for ESO... i know there was a few at launch but i think because things were so bad most of them died off
Well, they made some changes early on that made botting kinda hard from a gameplay standpoint. I just dont think its the sort of game you can automate too well, compared to a traditional tab-target one. Not only that, but the nature of the game means there isn't really anything you can just do over and over to acquire money or stuff to sell outside of group/instances content outside of gathering resources, and even then you'd have to level crafting for that to be worth it. The only places I see bots these days is farming dolmens to level up.
To OP: You played 600 hours for $60, I mean I think that is a pretty good return.
Ok...LOL...You say you played the game 2 months but yet you say in your original post that you got the game a month ago.....HAHA...I call bullshit....LMAO
i don't agree with what he posted, thats not my experience at all.. but he said he bought the game a month after he read reviews here etc... not he was playing for a month
for all we know he bought the game 3 months ago which was a month after he read reviews here and decided to take t he plunge.. he played for 2 months sat on it for a month and decided to post
just pointing out that he didnt say he bought it a month ago.. thats not the timeline that was said.
Dude read his first post " I bought the game a month ago after looking at the reviews and hype and got max level, fully-built with yellow top tier gear from trials and 400 champion level with my guild" He did say he BOUGHT it a month ago.....
It was a typo, no point in fixing it now with the re-posts. Obviously I didn't play 600+ hours in a month.
But your image said you played 283 hours in the last two weeks.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
Either that or he has had a bot playing for him and has hardly experienced ESO at all.
i don't actually think there is any bots for ESO... i know there was a few at launch but i think because things were so bad most of them died off
Well, they made some changes early on that made botting kinda hard from a gameplay standpoint. I just dont think its the sort of game you can automate too well, compared to a traditional tab-target one. Not only that, but the nature of the game means there isn't really anything you can just do over and over to acquire money or stuff to sell outside of group/instances content outside of gathering resources, and even then you'd have to level crafting for that to be worth it. The only places I see bots these days is farming dolmens to level up.
To OP: You played 600 hours for $60, I mean I think that is a pretty good return.
i think you underestimate how powerful bots can be... hell there was one called Aret Baron for TERA that could literally do almost perfect rotations and movement even with action combat...
not to mention plenty of bots have full quest support etc... sure there are some basic ones around that do almost nothing, but there is plenty of games with fully functional ones that do amazing things
thing is that 90% of folks in ESO are all damage dealers. The dungeon "queue" system is built to allocate 2 dps, 1 healer, and a tank. If you play a dps class you can expect 30 minute wait times.
To be fair, 90% of people in any mmo are damage dealers. That's not mutually exclusive to ESO; and in fact the larger the population of the game the wider the ratio gets. It's because majority of a game population's mentality is "I don't want to sit there and just sponge damage and do shit dps," or "I don't want to sit there like a bot and just cast heals over and over." Basically boiling down to "I want to do fat dps, and have that be my only responsibility." Which is also because it's very easy to toss the blame of a dungeon's wipe at the tank for "not holding aggro," or at the healers because "they didn't heal enough." Anybody that throws money into a game, doesn't want to feel like that money was worthless because they get shit thrown on them every five seconds because they screwed up. Don't want long queue times? Play a tank or a healer until the ratio gets even and then dps can have normal queue times. (But that's wishful thinking. the ratio is never going to get even. So DPS queues are always going to be perpetually fucked in dungeon queue finders.)
As I said in the other thread in which the OP posted this: I don't play bad games for more than an hour. If this was so bad why did the OP put the huge amount of time and effort into it for, at the end of the day, not a lot of money.
I play games, get bored and leave / give them a rest. If I have played them for a decent length of time they must have something that I found worthwhile. So I don't go around posting "its so bad I only played it for x hundred hours" type stuff. Pfft!
After seeing your playtime, I'm surprised you're not in a coma, let alone alive. I'm kind of curious how you managed to play 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight. Something about that doesn't sound legit. If it is, I highly suggest you enjoy the real world a little more often.
i already explained why it may look like that.. it's probably 2 weeks and 6 days but hadn't hit 3 weeks yet so it says 2 weeks... when in fact it's 20 days which is a bit more realistic for hours per day.
A bit, but still is over 14 hours a day so not surprising you are suffering some burnout.
I feel physically ill if I game for more than 6 or 7 hours on in a day so am always amazed at folks with such fotitude.
Now personally I can tell if a game is something I don't like or very flawed in a lot less time than 600 plus hours.
I assume then the context of your assessment is the time you spent really wasn't worth it because when you reached the end there really wasn't anything there and the various issues took away much of the enjoyment.
If so I understand where you are coming from.
Also having no understanding of the impact of animation cancelling in doing damage until this thread I think I finally know why my level 35 Dragon Knight couldnt kill level 30 storyline bosses. (Along with a bad build which @Iselin has helped me understand)
I was basically doing it all wrong.
Good thread though, I learned a lot about ESO on a topic I never knew existed.
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To add: the OP also talked in the original thread about playing for a month reporting bugs and how they were still not fixed that month.
I won't defend any company for having bugs / not fixing them. However there is bug fixing in ESO. Expecting instant fixes though - seriously. Expect a dev to follow every player around! Pfft.
After seeing your playtime, I'm surprised you're not in a coma, let alone alive. I'm kind of curious how you managed to play 20 hours a day for 2 weeks straight. Something about that doesn't sound legit. If it is, I highly suggest you enjoy the real world a little more often.
i already explained why it may look like that.. it's probably 2 weeks and 6 days but hadn't hit 3 weeks yet so it says 2 weeks... when in fact it's 20 days which is a bit more realistic for hours per day.
LOL so it goes from 20 hrs/day down to what 14? Does it really matter?
I paid $30 or so for Summerset that included the chapters up to that, and $15 for a month sub, if I can get a couple hundred hours of enjoyable gameplay out of that I'll be satisfied. Maybe $60 total if I sub 2 months, but still worth it to me.
I don't think I'll get that deep into the game as the OP, but it seemed like he got his $ worth out of it, and then hit a wall. He got way more out of the game than I prbly will. At that level, the game may be atrocious, but I'll never know...ha
I do that in all MMORPG's I play also, with hitting a wall. Def time to move on to something fun for you.
The OP prbly did experience tons of bugs, but I haven't yet. I know from past experience I've been in their shoes by getting hit with the crap stick while my friends coast by on easy street.
I hated how Steam made me DL the game twice though...
kinda agree but definitely not for 10-15 years old players...it's more like 30-??? i really don't see anything for younger audience in this game, it's so bad that it fits oldschool players, so yeah 30+
"This seems to be written by someone who didn't play the game long. Even people who hate the game will tell you that ESO has the best PVP in a MMO right now. Its fantastic and I don't even like PVP."
Dont know who told you this but the PVP in ESO is horrible, just look on youtube for 10 v 1 or even 30 v 1
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that obviously makes you a hateboi then tho
didn't have alot of gamebreaking bugs so far, and yes, i know there are some minor bugs, but quite frankly, game breaking? none.
and i play since beta.
uh and for the record, this clearly is an elder scrolls game, and you would have noticed if you would have played abit, theotricus
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But people who spend 20 hours a day in a game cant find it that horrible. Especially for two weeks straight. I have played it off and on for awhile so I am not sure if there is an auto kick or not. So maybe his time is based on just AFK farming hours (for whatever reason). But that surely doesnt help his argument about how horrible the game is.
I was a major critic of the game. One of the first testers of it actually (when everyone was selling their first born for an invite). I was scathing on the official forums. I didnt even buy it on release. But it is one of the only MMOs to actually improve itself (greatly) and increase its playerbase after the initial crush of release. That is a miracle in and of itself.
People can question the changes they make (every game makes/made class changes people hate(d), it was a staple of MMOs when they were relevant), stuff also is sold that people can question (again name a game that doesnt sell shit).
For what it is ESO is probably the best option out there now. But it benefits from a total lack of competition. What is there WOW? BDO? LOTRO? FFXIV? SWOTOR? RIFT? GW2? I am just reeling off games that might possibly be considered MMOS that are even slightly relevant. Look at that list, half of them are close to a decade old, some over a decade old. Others are Koreans grinders. ESO at just over five years old is the latest MMO that has come out that even registers.
MMOS are dead, and coming in here and bashing the last one and one of the few to actually improve is obvious trolling. People can have all the opinions they want, but some of the stuff in the OP was outright fabrication and add that to the total hours played and more specifically the hours played in a 2 week period and its extremely obvious.
You realize that is a bit more than 20 hours a day right?
If true I'd have to blame much of your negativity on sleep deprivation.
Also, over 600 hours played in two months? You definitely wasted something, but it wasn't the money spent on ESO.
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The game is stable from what i have seen over the last few months, and while i haven't been to cyrodiil at all, i have found the players to generally be fairly friendly, the game could stand to be 'remastered' a bit to improve character graphics etc. but its not that big of a deal, the graphics are 'good enough'.
ESO these days is a pretty good game, it stands up well in comparison to other MMO's so much so that i think it easily belongs in the top 5 MMO's currently available. So if someone thinks the game is a waste of money, then i would have to ask, 'compared to what?'
hold down your heavy attack... when the animation starts you use an ability
the heavy attack fires at full damage + the damage of the ability you used
same with light attack you start an ability with a cast animation cancel it out with light attack and get the damage from both.
thats how you're meant to do rotations at endgame in ESO for proper DPS
Abilities can cancel light attack animations but not heavy attack animations.
The left mouse button attacks have 3 states: light, medium and heavy attacks and they register the actual amount of time you hold down the LMB without anything else happening. If you try to cancel a heavy what you end-up with is at best a medium if you let it play out long enough but most of the time it'll register as a light attack with its corresponding damage.
Besides that, heavy attacks are used more for their resource regen properties than the damage they do and the resource regen only happens if it registers as a full heavy attack. This is why no one cancels heavy attacks.
And no, light attacks do not animation cancel abilities. The only things that cancel the animation of abilities are blocks, bashes and ability bar swaps.
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I can also animation cancel several abilities on my sorc.
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To OP: You played 600 hours for $60, I mean I think that is a pretty good return.
not to mention plenty of bots have full quest support etc... sure there are some basic ones around that do almost nothing, but there is plenty of games with fully functional ones that do amazing things
I play games, get bored and leave / give them a rest. If I have played them for a decent length of time they must have something that I found worthwhile. So I don't go around posting "its so bad I only played it for x hundred hours" type stuff. Pfft!
I feel physically ill if I game for more than 6 or 7 hours on in a day so am always amazed at folks with such fotitude.
Now personally I can tell if a game is something I don't like or very flawed in a lot less time than 600 plus hours.
I assume then the context of your assessment is the time you spent really wasn't worth it because when you reached the end there really wasn't anything there and the various issues took away much of the enjoyment.
If so I understand where you are coming from.
Also having no understanding of the impact of animation cancelling in doing damage until this thread I think I finally know why my level 35 Dragon Knight couldnt kill level 30 storyline bosses. (Along with a bad build which @Iselin has helped me understand)
I was basically doing it all wrong.
Good thread though, I learned a lot about ESO on a topic I never knew existed.
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I won't defend any company for having bugs / not fixing them. However there is bug fixing in ESO. Expecting instant fixes though - seriously. Expect a dev to follow every player around! Pfft.
I don't think I'll get that deep into the game as the OP, but it seemed like he got his $ worth out of it, and then hit a wall. He got way more out of the game than I prbly will. At that level, the game may be atrocious, but I'll never know...ha
I do that in all MMORPG's I play also, with hitting a wall. Def time to move on to something fun for you.
The OP prbly did experience tons of bugs, but I haven't yet. I know from past experience I've been in their shoes by getting hit with the crap stick while my friends coast by on easy street.
I hated how Steam made me DL the game twice though...
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Dont know who told you this but the PVP in ESO is horrible, just look on youtube for 10 v 1 or even 30 v 1