How was Summerset?

Xarko

I'm thinking of checking ESO after a long while and I can't decide whether to buy just the Elsweyr upgrade or pay extra to get Summerset as well. I don't really mind the price difference all that much, but if people gonna say it was a weak chapter... So the question is, was Summerset worth the time? Can I even skip it, should I? Would you recommend it for people to check it out even now that a new chapter is out?

Viper482

Skip Summerset imo. Just a zone and the Psijic skill line and story is kind of lame. 

You can skip any content in ESO, you are just as capable at level 1 since everything scales. You can go straight to Elsweyr and fight dragons as a level 1.....part of the problem with this game.

lahnmir

The one thing I love about Summerset is the writing, its really well done. Haven’t played the new xpac yet so can’t compare them.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Wedlen

I play laot of ESO. I find their expansions lacking fore the price. Look at Elswyer latest Expansion... They didnt even use the full map. They gave half of the map. Game is really good but still.

Viper482

Wedlen said:

I play laot of ESO. I find their expansions lacking fore the price. Look at Elswyer latest Expansion... They didnt even use the full map. They gave half of the map. Game is really good but still.

Yea the expansions are just $40 zones. At least this one had a new class and mechanic (dragons) though they are getting old already. Not only this, but most zones are extremely linear and not open at all. They give the appearance of open zones but they put so many terrain in them they funnel you where to go.

OGDeathRow

Xarko said:

I'm thinking of checking ESO after a long while and I can't decide whether to buy just the Elsweyr upgrade or pay extra to get Summerset as well. I don't really mind the price difference all that much, but if people gonna say it was a weak chapter... So the question is, was Summerset worth the time? Can I even skip it, should I? Would you recommend it for people to check it out even now that a new chapter is out?

My daughter loved summerset, but then again she loved all of eso. I asked her for you and she said morrowind is the only place she didnt like. But thats part of the base game now i think.

gervaise1

Summerset has quests etc. but its "unique" feature is the Psijic skill line.

This is certainly a part of ES lore of past games. The skill line itself has a set of quests - much like other skill lines - which can be triggered once you have done the initial Summerset quest. You don't have to do the other Summerset quests.

Is it worth your time - money not being a factor. You can check out threads etc. and find a mix of the skills themselves are brilliant to its so-so. (The quest line itself is well done and, imo, "different" in the way that e.g. the Thieves' Guild questline was different.) 

I suspect that you will regret not checking it out. That you will be left wondering.

And then you will have the option to do the rest of the Summerset questline - or just ignore it.

Viper482

gervaise1 said:

Summerset has quests etc. but its "unique" feature is the Psijic skill line.

This is certainly a part of ES lore of past games. The skill line itself has a set of quests - much like other skill lines - which can be triggered once you have done the initial Summerset quest. You don't have to do the other Summerset quests.

Is it worth your time - money not being a factor. You can check out threads etc. and find a mix of the skills themselves are brilliant to its so-so. (The quest line itself is well done and, imo, "different" in the way that e.g. the Thieves' Guild questline was different.) 

I suspect that you will regret not checking it out. That you will be left wondering.

And then you will have the option to do the rest of the Summerset questline - or just ignore it.

Let's mention one key part of this skill line.....the grind. The OP should really look into how you must level this skill line before deciding if it is worth it. For me....no thanks.

gunklacker

Pass on Summerset , the skills are crap, and the quest just makes you run around old maps looking for sparkly things.

Mackaveli44

I love ESO but at the same time I hate their paid expansions.  They're not even close to being an expansion as you can beat all its open world content in a few hours at most.  It's basically just 1 zone and 1 trial with some storyline content.  I think its one of the worst expansion systems alongside Everquest 2's way of doing expansions as well.  Make you pay full price for the amount of content thats in a little DLC.   That said, it IS a good and fun game with lots to do.


I hope they plan on doing something about character progression though because once you hit max CP, character progression stops since gear caps out at 160.  

gervaise1

Mackaveli44 said:

I love ESO but at the same time I hate their paid expansions.  They're not even close to being an expansion as you can beat all its open world content in a few hours at most.  It's basically just 1 zone and 1 trial with some storyline content.  I think its one of the worst expansion systems alongside Everquest 2's way of doing expansions as well.  Make you pay full price for the amount of content thats in a little DLC.   That said, it IS a good and fun game with lots to do.


I hope they plan on doing something about character progression though because once you hit max CP, character progression stops since gear caps out at 160.  

Although gear caps at cp160 your character cp doesn't - a few hundred extra cp have a significant impact. You can also upgrade your gear - aiming for gold. Work towards "better" sets / more sets.  Along with acquiring and levelling all the skill lines - to add flexibility mainly.

The progression - and the grind - is there its simply not all about gear. 

Hyperpsycrow

Eso is zzzzzzz yaaawn..if i cant sleep then i log in to eso and then BAM instant zzzzzz

Tiller

Summerset wasn't as long as Morrowind, but there were a few good quests, and the story was interesting. The zone detail is also really nice.

Iselin

Like someone said above you do want Summerset for the Psijic skill line whether you level it to level 1 or higher because you want some skill.

The level 1 unlock is just a short quest in the island of Summerset itself and once you have that you can then see the Psijic loot portals that spawn all over the world wherever runes spawn. It's a good source of loot - especially gear for whatever zone you happen to find one - a step up from chests with respect to the quality of gear you can get from them.

Without that unlock you just don't see them at all.

Gutlard

So they have Chapters & DLCs, but they won't have actual expansions anymore? Big ones that increase level cap, and stuff? I wonder how increasing the level cap would screw up the CP levels, but all games deal with that issue with previous endgame gear, for the most part.

I looked at Chapters as expansions, but you folks are saying they don't contain that much content, which is a shame, and why I'm hoping they do full blown expansions.

I'm only level 27 and taking my time with it, so far. Liking the story on my Nord Templar. A buddy just gave him vamparism....awww yeah

Gut Out!

TheDarkrayne

Gutlard said:

So they have Chapters & DLCs, but they won't have actual expansions anymore? Big ones that increase level cap, and stuff? I wonder how increasing the level cap would screw up the CP levels, but all games deal with that issue with previous endgame gear, for the most part.

I looked at Chapters as expansions, but you folks are saying they don't contain that much content, which is a shame, and why I'm hoping they do full blown expansions.

I'm only level 27 and taking my time with it, so far. Liking the story on my Nord Templar. A buddy just gave him vamparism....awww yeah

Gut Out!

They haven't ever had a proper expansion, really. They called Morrowind an expansion at first until they started calling them chapters but it's the same thing as the others.

I disagree with a lot of people though. You can easily spend 50+ hours in the chapter zones on your first pass. There's more story, more lines of voice work and more content than many full priced single player games in each one.

What they don't offer are new endgame grinds, other than a few dailies that aren't required for anything specific. You do all the content and then you move on. You'll only need to go back to them later if there's a specific set of gear you're after.

Iselin

TheDarkrayne said:

They haven't ever had a proper expansion, really. They called Morrowind an expansion at first until they started calling them chapters but it's the same thing as the others.

No they never did. Some media outlets called it an expansion but they were always clear it was not and were quick to correct anyone calling it that.

But some people still insist of thinking of chapters as expansions instead of what the are which is nothing more than an Orsinium-sized big DLC, because of years of conditioning in other MMOs.

It's that thinking and kneejerk comparison with what other MMOs call expansions that leads to complaints about hours of content.