This one has an advantage over the one from last year: People can buy the mount separately if they don't want to sub for 6 months. That's a step in the right direction.
Honestly, WoW has so many mounts that buying a cash shop one is NEVER necessary.
But frankly, a game with a mandatory subscription shouldn't have a cash shop at all, period. It demonstrates in the clearest possible terms that subscription fees are unnecessary and do not do the one thing that advocates for subscription fees like to pretend that they do.
And before you mention it, the ability to trade subscription time with other players doesn't change that. Someone is paying for that subscription.
That's easy. Because they can. It is capitalism, the right answer is do what makes you the most money as long as it stays ethical and legal (if you are so inclined) and the negative press is enough to handle.
Either way, play a game like Starcraft 2 or a real time strategy game, i mean if i put my 1800 hours of path of exile into SC 2, I'd probably be at least masters if not grandmaster.
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Cash shop in D4 confirmed. You heard it hear first.
On top of paying for the game and subscription packs.
It's pretty much the norm - look at BDO
B2P - yes Subscription pack - yes Cash shop - yes
Whether you "need" a subscription in e.g. BDO to play "effectively" is a question that simply doesn't exist in WoW though since WoW's sub is mandatory.
Cash shop in D4 confirmed. You heard it hear first.
On top of paying for the game and subscription packs.
It's pretty much the norm - look at BDO
B2P - yes Subscription pack - yes Cash shop - yes
Yeah I know. Blizzard with D3 is pretty well the last of the no cash shop games as a service we're likely to see. B2P + Xpacs but no cash shop. It kind of stand out as unique now whereas it was once the norm.
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If you can't make great content, make great mounts.
They don't even have to be great mounts just uncommon.
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Game has become all about $$$$$ and it shows. The good games still make the $$$$$.....but they do it by actually focusing on making you want to play game instead of how to get more cash out of their players through cash shop crap and time-gating content to stretch out your subscription.
FFXIV is my new home, screw you Blizzard.
My only problems with a mount like this, at this stage in the game, are that: A ) It's arguably the coolest looking flying mount of the expansion (I realize this is subjective) and is not earned by actually playing or achieving anything in the game, and B ) There's still no god damn flying nearly a year into this mess.
"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)
Well it is not JUST a cash shop mount,it is being done with SIMPLE grade 9 marketing tactics...commit to longer subscriptions and we will throw this in for FREE,imagine that for FREE !!!.
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This one has an advantage over the one from last year: People can buy the mount separately if they don't want to sub for 6 months. That's a step in the right direction.
Honestly, WoW has so many mounts that buying a cash shop one is NEVER necessary.
Not necessary, sure. But this doesn't mean they dont take away from the game. Those shop mounts are things that would usually end up as rewards for doing hard stuff in game, unique rewards, show of skill, patience, dedication,... And by making them shop mounts, they decide to take unique designs out of the game and replace them with more streamlined, lower quality mounts and their recolors. And that would be fine in game that didn't take purchase of base game, latest expansion and subscription. Just saying, because people tend to forget this. Just because it is not pay to win, this doesn't mean it doesn't hurt the design of the game.
Cash shop in D4 confirmed. You heard it hear first.
On top of paying for the game and subscription packs.
It's pretty much the norm - look at BDO
B2P - yes Subscription pack - yes Cash shop - yes
Whether you "need" a subscription in e.g. BDO to play "effectively" is a question that simply doesn't exist in WoW though since WoW's sub is mandatory.
Anyone who plays BDO seriously has a subscription pack because of the 30% marketplace tax reduction as well as all the other perks.
Playing without a sub pack in BDO sucks pretty bad
Will I understand what's going on in the game any better with a sub pack? Maybe that's my damned problem...
Cash shop in D4 confirmed. You heard it hear first.
On top of paying for the game and subscription packs.
It's pretty much the norm - look at BDO
B2P - yes Subscription pack - yes Cash shop - yes
Surely we all remember the defenders of F2P and cash shops saying "well you don't have to buy a subscription that's all that matters." You still don't, but if your don't the MMO grinds your nose into the ground as punishment.
I used to be a mount collector back in the day. It was a status symbol to have certain mounts in the game. Hell I had the swift spectral tiger which was being sold for 2k at one point, from the card game. Before they messed with it on the shadow priest you could only see the armor when mounted, not the case anymore. The only one I really missed out on was the swift zulian tiger. Tried forever to get that mount.
They have devalued getting mounts anymore. They just throw them at you now. Don't mind them doing charity mounts an stuff or even cash shop mounts at this point because there is no value in working to get them anymore.
Ok, I'll bite. Because yeah! That's what the fuck this game is lacking, not enough store bought flying mounts!! WOOT!!! Who cares about shit game mechanics, and boring stagnant game play, give me a flying mount any day!! Woo fucking hoo.
I agree but at some point does it really matter? The entire MMO genre is one big revenue generating milk job. I mean one either embraces it or moves on. The little details and rules about how bad you're getting milked seem kind of trivial at this point.
Let's put this in perspective. Warhammer: Inquisitor was $50 on release and criticized for being too expensive. I don't agree, but even on sale at $35 a lot of people balked. When new single player titles are released for $35 - $80 people balk, even if many of those offer hundreds of hours of game play.
For $78, the price of a newly released AAA Ubisoft, Activision, or EA game, you get 6 months of WoW sub, grinding out the same dailies over and over again just to bump up your gear score. A single digital item is $25, more than the price of many games. Oh and bonus, when you stop paying you lose access to all the digital stuff you "bought" unless you pony up more cash.
That comparison only gets worse if you stop buying games on release day. Those $80 AAA games become $35 a few months later on sale.
Getting off that treadmill is incredibly liberating and frees up a lot of gaming money.
Oh, I agree entirely. Singleplayer/co-op is where it's good right now.
Hell, I recently quit my weekly GW2 raid team so I could free up that hours-long time slot to focus on self improvement and single player games. It feels liberating.
But frankly, a game with a mandatory subscription shouldn't have a cash shop at all, period. It demonstrates in the clearest possible terms that subscription fees are unnecessary and do not do the one thing that advocates for subscription fees like to pretend that they do.
And before you mention it, the ability to trade subscription time with other players doesn't change that. Someone is paying for that subscription.
Are you implying they get more money from the cash shop than from subs? That's pretty hard to believe.
There's nothing wrong -- either strategically or morally -- with having multiple revenue streams. Offering products for a price is a company's purpose. If you don't want to pay the price, don't pay it. Playing WoW is a luxury, not a human right. Same goes for cash shop items.
But frankly, a game with a mandatory subscription shouldn't have a cash shop at all, period. It demonstrates in the clearest possible terms that subscription fees are unnecessary and do not do the one thing that advocates for subscription fees like to pretend that they do.
And before you mention it, the ability to trade subscription time with other players doesn't change that. Someone is paying for that subscription.
Are you implying they get more money from the cash shop than from subs? That's pretty hard to believe.
There's nothing wrong -- either strategically or morally -- with having multiple revenue streams. Offering products for a price is a company's purpose. If you don't want to pay the price, don't pay it. Playing WoW is a luxury, not a human right. Same goes for cash shop items.
No, I am not implying that they make more money from their cash shop than from their subscription fee. I never made any statements to that effect.
If Blizzard's prerogative is to insult their customers by devaluing the concept of a subscription fee, it is my right and prerogative to not give WoW any of my money at all, subscription or cash shop. And for various reasons, the bleeding subscription numbers would imply that I'm not alone in that.
Each new day that passes makes me feel better about my ongoing boycott of all Blizzard products since the Diablo Immortal fiasco.
Ok, I'll bite. Because yeah! That's what the fuck this game is lacking, not enough store bought flying mounts!! WOOT!!! Who cares about shit game mechanics, and boring stagnant game play, give me a flying mount any day!! Woo fucking hoo.
You do realize that for the vast majority of Wow players this equates to a free mount , its not an exclusive Store only , i dont think it will even sell very many , it was for the most part a gift
Do you have stats to back up the claim that "the vast majority" of WoW players are paying for 6 month subs?
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Either way, play a game like Starcraft 2 or a real time strategy game, i mean if i put my 1800 hours of path of exile into SC 2, I'd probably be at least masters if not grandmaster.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
"This is life! We suffer and slave and expire. That's it!" -Bernard Black (Dylan Moran)
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It's a flying boat....that doesn't float on water.
But at least this isn't a dragon that doesn't fly.
I think I've made that lame jest before, but still stands...or floats?
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What, me worry?
Not necessary, sure. But this doesn't mean they dont take away from the game. Those shop mounts are things that would usually end up as rewards for doing hard stuff in game, unique rewards, show of skill, patience, dedication,... And by making them shop mounts, they decide to take unique designs out of the game and replace them with more streamlined, lower quality mounts and their recolors. And that would be fine in game that didn't take purchase of base game, latest expansion and subscription. Just saying, because people tend to forget this. Just because it is not pay to win, this doesn't mean it doesn't hurt the design of the game.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
Hell, I recently quit my weekly GW2 raid team so I could free up that hours-long time slot to focus on self improvement and single player games. It feels liberating.
Are you implying they get more money from the cash shop than from subs? That's pretty hard to believe.
There's nothing wrong -- either strategically or morally -- with having multiple revenue streams. Offering products for a price is a company's purpose. If you don't want to pay the price, don't pay it. Playing WoW is a luxury, not a human right. Same goes for cash shop items.
If Blizzard's prerogative is to insult their customers by devaluing the concept of a subscription fee, it is my right and prerogative to not give WoW any of my money at all, subscription or cash shop. And for various reasons, the bleeding subscription numbers would imply that I'm not alone in that.
Each new day that passes makes me feel better about my ongoing boycott of all Blizzard products since the Diablo Immortal fiasco.
Do you have stats to back up the claim that "the vast majority" of WoW players are paying for 6 month subs?