New World ( friends want to)
Pantheon ( eq and vanguard fan .. have to check it out)
Magic Legends ..( love arpgs for mindless fun)
I have a list of Under the Radar indie games im looking forward to .... That some may be interested in ..
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I have others .. but 7 for 7
Dude, epic list. Several in that are games I've looked at or am about to look at now. Excellent taste.
I've been really itching for a good solid MMO experience. I find things I like in most games I play, but none of them have really grabbed me the way EQ or Vanguard did back in the day.
I enjoy Single-Player experiences, but I get so little time to play that I tend to look for something I can enjoy with friends or my nieces/nephews at the same time.
Some speculate Amazon's interest may have shifted to the new LOTR project, possibly even shifting more experienced dev resources to the next game.
Might explain why it appears the scope of NW has been cut back some and the sudden rush to get it quickly out the door.
If so, very likely not much good will come from this, at least not for those waiting on NW unless they are the traditional fans of such survival games who supported Rust, Conan Exiles, and Atlas quite vigorously despite the many flaws and limitations.
I have to be suspicious of cheap or free games...you tend to get what you pay for in life.
I'm pretty sure NW has always been a low-lift game. Amazon is new to the industry, but they're not new to development. They know how to run projects and I'm pretty sure they came out with the NW idea as a simple-to-execute project that they could use to shake the kinks our of their processes with.
I do think it was a proving ground for the team that probably went on to work on the LOTR game, but I'm not sure it's accurate to say the scale's been cut back or that there's any new rush to get it out. There are things that are still hidden behind NDAs, but I think you'd find that the direction of the game was pretty clear long before the LOTR deal was wrapped up.
To be clear, it's not totally what I'd expected early on, but I realize from looking back that most of that was my expectations and not Amazon's pitch. I read a lot into it that wasn't there. Once I had a more tangible idea of what they were going for, a lot of it started making a lot more sense.
@WarEnsemble, I agree BUT they did take down the alpha to implement a revamped PVE experience so we'll see what they did. I am a bit surprised that they're going from Alpha straight to launch... kind of surprising.
Learned many, many years ago there is no such thing as a "miracle patch". Game after game swears they have one before release, every one of them is lying.
I don't think anyone touted it as a miracle patch. There were just some changes needed after testing. Keep in mind that hardly anyone had seen the game until they rolled it out for the Alpha last year. In a lot of ways, NW is following a far more traditional development path than any other game in the last 10-15 years.
I'm relatively confident they could have launched with what they had, game-loop-wise, and been modestly successful. I'm also guessing that modestly successful is the internal goal for the game, as well.
@WarEnsemble, I agree BUT they did take down the alpha to implement a revamped PVE experience so we'll see what they did. I am a bit surprised that they're going from Alpha straight to launch... kind of surprising.
Learned many, many years ago there is no such thing as a "miracle patch". Game after game swears they have one before release, every one of them is lying.
I don't think anyone touted it as a miracle patch. There were just some changes needed after testing. Keep in mind that hardly anyone had seen the game until they rolled it out for the Alpha last year. In a lot of ways, NW is following a far more traditional development path than any other game in the last 10-15 years.
I'm relatively confident they could have launched with what they had, game-loop-wise, and been modestly successful. I'm also guessing that modestly successful is the internal goal for the game, as well.
With the impending changes hinted at ("a revamped PvE experience"), releasing the game without significant additional testing is approaching the game with a "miracle patch". It's more about the approach than anything said. A company the size of Amazon should know better. They seem to be acting as if they don't know. There's always the chance that "revamped" isn't as thorough as @Mackaveli44 and @OZ_Zorvan and I seem to believe. That's even more sad.
If this change is as significant as it seems, launching without testing this could be just setting themselves up for more problems (and bad reviews).
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
@WarEnsemble, I agree BUT they did take down the alpha to implement a revamped PVE experience so we'll see what they did. I am a bit surprised that they're going from Alpha straight to launch... kind of surprising.
Learned many, many years ago there is no such thing as a "miracle patch". Game after game swears they have one before release, every one of them is lying.
After release it is possible though. Look at FFXIV 1.0 vs when they launched ARR after shutting it down for a while.
With the impending changes hinted at ("a revamped PvE experience"), releasing the game without significant additional testing is approaching the game with a "miracle patch". It's more about the approach than anything said. A company the size of Amazon should know better. They seem to be acting as if they don't know. There's always the chance that "revamped" isn't as thorough as @Mackaveli44 and @OZ_Zorvan and I seem to believe. That's even more sad.
If this change is as significant as it seems, launching without testing this could be just setting themselves up for more problems (and bad reviews).
lol Well, revamped was pretty low-lift because it was non-existent at the time they said that. What they probably should have said was... "a PvE experience." =P
It's a survival game at it's core. You've played those. Think about what a revamped PvE experience would look like for any of those games. Conan Exiles, for instance... There IS no PvE experience to speak of, so anything at all would be an improvement, notionally.
I don't know if you played the game during alpha or not, and you shouldn't tell me because you have an NDA, but it's a PvP survival game. There isn't really any PvE and anything they might do would just be scripting existing systems.
...and just to point out for the sake of clarity, I'm not really defending the statement or Amazon. I'm just saying it's one of those throw away statements that doesn't have any real value. It just doesn't mean anything, so I wouldn't invest much emotional energy into it either way. I think NW will be fun, but it's not going to be the next best thing since WoW. Think ARK or ATLAS, but put together more professionally. Fun, but not exactly ground-breaking.
Could be wrong. Maybe they'll surprise me the way Funcom did with Conan Exiles, but I don't see anything just now that makes me think there's much there to be excited about. Just a cool and well-developed game for folks that like that genre.
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I do think it was a proving ground for the team that probably went on to work on the LOTR game, but I'm not sure it's accurate to say the scale's been cut back or that there's any new rush to get it out. There are things that are still hidden behind NDAs, but I think you'd find that the direction of the game was pretty clear long before the LOTR deal was wrapped up.
To be clear, it's not totally what I'd expected early on, but I realize from looking back that most of that was my expectations and not Amazon's pitch. I read a lot into it that wasn't there. Once I had a more tangible idea of what they were going for, a lot of it started making a lot more sense.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
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It's a survival game at it's core. You've played those. Think about what a revamped PvE experience would look like for any of those games. Conan Exiles, for instance... There IS no PvE experience to speak of, so anything at all would be an improvement, notionally.
I don't know if you played the game during alpha or not, and you shouldn't tell me because you have an NDA, but it's a PvP survival game. There isn't really any PvE and anything they might do would just be scripting existing systems.
...and just to point out for the sake of clarity, I'm not really defending the statement or Amazon. I'm just saying it's one of those throw away statements that doesn't have any real value. It just doesn't mean anything, so I wouldn't invest much emotional energy into it either way. I think NW will be fun, but it's not going to be the next best thing since WoW. Think ARK or ATLAS, but put together more professionally. Fun, but not exactly ground-breaking.
Could be wrong. Maybe they'll surprise me the way Funcom did with Conan Exiles, but I don't see anything just now that makes me think there's much there to be excited about. Just a cool and well-developed game for folks that like that genre.