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What are the most overplayed trends in current MMO development?

MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
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Which trends do you think are the most overdone in current MMO development?  For me, it's Survival Sandbox and Open World PvP.
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  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Throw back PvE only games. Dungeons, quests, open worlds with no pvp. 
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

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  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903
    Randomness in "crafting"/"gear", almost always being used as a grind/spend gate.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    edited April 2020
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked, jailbait-filled, pay-to-win Korean gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Post edited by Aeander on
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Rehashed ancient ass mechanics that were replaced for good reason. 
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    edited April 2020
    These survival games got the sandbox part right, with all the building stuff but then commence to let it be ffa no consequence for kos, murder everyone, only consequence is the size of the clan the one you kos has.

    Wish they were more like open world pvp games like Darkfall where you have to worry about actual ingame consequences like town guards killing you if you are red, or other players able to kill you when you are red and not get turned red. ETC. Would be cool if Darkfall had building like Atlas has.
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Aeander said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    “Tons“ lol sure. 
    Even if there were “tons” in development that doesn’t qualify as an overplayed trend. They (if they existed) have not released yet. 
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    Aeander said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Taking the layup, battle royale.
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    edited April 2020
    Is there current MMO development?

    New World, Maybe, if it can figure out what it wants to be. 

    I can’t really think of anything else that isn’t just westernized re-releases of Asian games that had been out for a while.

    which I guess is my answer to the OP by default
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    MightyUnclean said:
    Aeander said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
    You know I’m right
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    MightyUnclean said:
    Aeander said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
    You know I’m right
    Ahhh, the sweet satisfaction of putting a troll on ignore.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    MightyUnclean said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    MightyUnclean said:
    Aeander said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
    You know I’m right
    Ahhh, the sweet satisfaction of putting a troll on ignore.
    That’s why you replied, eh. I’m not trolling. That’s just what people say when they can’t handle a discussion and ignore when they only want to live in an echo chamber. 
    Viper482
  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,256
    edited April 2020
    eternal beta test , pay for early access , jackpot , i mean loot box here i come

    Buy to play with cash shop
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  • Gamer54321Gamer54321 Member UncommonPosts: 452
    I don't know enough about MMO's but..

    I would think:

    1) Gimmicky/silly char generation animation (character bopping up and down, as if unable to stand still, and crappy animation)

    2) Lacking "verticality". A mostly flat world, to just move around in.

    3) A messy and ugly user interface.
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Anything MMO that is kickstarter/crowdfunded is an absolute joke at this point.

    Cash shops are cancer.

    Oh and forget paid beta, it's paid pre-pre-pre-alpha now.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    edited April 2020
    Aeander said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.

    Not sure how he is trolling, looks like he just disagrees with you. I agree with him, these survival "MMOs" you speak of are not really MMOs. They are their own genre imo. 

    To answer the question I will say progression raiding endgame. 
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  • UtinniUtinni Member EpicPosts: 2,209
    Kickstarter games that promise a game built around "community"
  • AmarantharAmaranthar Member EpicPosts: 5,852
    edited April 2020
    I don't know enough about MMO's but..

    I would think:

    1) Gimmicky/silly char generation animation (character bopping up and down, as if unable to stand still, and crappy animation)

    2) Lacking "verticality". A mostly flat world, to just move around in.

    3) A messy and ugly user interface.
    I honestly don't know how overplayed that is because I haven't played an MMORPG in around 8 years (they are so far from what I want, Sandbox and quality).
    But one thing I will never understand is things like this. Really poor judgement on some peoples' part, it's just so strange to see this crappy decision making in a multi$$$$$$ industry. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    When asked when will their long past due MMO release, developers who answer when it is ready or finished or just ignore the question entirely.


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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Kyleran said:
    When asked when will their long past due MMO release, developers who answer when it is ready or finished or just ignore the question entirely.


    It’s tiring for sure, but honestly understandable for indies. 
    Amaranthar
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    edited April 2020
    Aeander said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
    You know I’m right
    No, he's right,  you often do so by adding in unnecessarily caustic comments in the midst of your "reasoned" responses.

    Try not chiding others in your replies by including baiting responses such as "pretty laughable", "lol, sure", "you know I'm right."

    Or...just own up to being what you are, I often do as I enjoy dwelling under the bridge, but am just more subtle, an Online Provocateur if you will.

    Oh topic, OP was referring to the many online multiplayer survival games "released" in recent years, Rust, Atlas, Dark & Light, Conan Exiles, Worlds Adrift, LoA, Life is Feudal, or in the works such as New World and a host of others you'll find with just a bit of research.

    Survival mechanics are even found in FO76, Saga of Lucima (go figure), and others, which (along with FFA PVP in some of the other examples) many feel are just developer cop outs for not producing enough actual content.

    But you know all this, though I feel willfully being obtuse is an overused tool of the trade.  >:)

    Cheers.
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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Kyleran said:
    Aeander said:
    I have yet to see an mmo with survival sandbox features. Maybe 1, the ark clone.  Very few open world pvp mmos. 

    Pretty laughable op. 

    My answer, quests for progression. 

    On the contrary. There are tons of them. They're just all kickstarter MMOs that have yet to come out, and may never do so.


    But the real answer - genderlocked Korean jailbait-filled gutter trash. Because that's basically all that is actually releasing these days.
    Ignore ChildoftheShadows.  He's just here to troll and post contrarian opinions that are not based in fact.
    You know I’m right
    No, he's right,  you often do so by adding in unnecessarily caustic comments in the midst of your "reasoned" responses.

    Try not chiding others in your replies by including baiting responses such as "pretty laughable", "lol, sure", "you know I'm right."

    Or...just own up to being what you are, I often do as I enjoy dwelling under the bridge, but am just more subtle, an Online Provocateur if you will.

    Oh topic, OP was referring to the many online multiplayer survival games "released" in recent years, Rust, Atlas, Dark & Light, Conan Exiles, Worlds Adrift, LoA, Life is Feudal, or in the works such as New World and a host of others you'll find with just a bit of research.

    Survival mechanics are even found in FO76, Saga of Lucima (go figure), and others, which (along with FFA PVP in some of the other examples) many feel are just developer cop outs for not producing enough actual content.

    But you know all this, though I feel willfully being obtuse is an overused tool of the trade.  >:)

    Cheers.
    I'm wrong, though you yourself just mentioned "online multiplayer survival games".. you know as well as I do those are not MMOs that's why you didn't say as such.


    Trolling  – (verb), as it relates to internet, is the deliberate act, (by a Troll – noun or adjective), of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments on various internet forums with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument
    Considering the context here the OP is the actual troll - "Which trends do you think are the most overdone in current MMO development? For me, it's Survival Sandbox and Open World PvP." He picks two topics that are very rare in actual MMO's and I'm certain he's well aware of what he's doing.


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