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Gaming laptop/desktop for person to get into gaming.
MrMonolitas
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Hello, friends !
I am looking little bit help with the laptop for my friend. I am out of loop these days, since the day you helped me with my desktop, my knowledge started to fade about new tech.
I am looking little bit help with the laptop for my friend. I am out of loop these days, since the day you helped me with my desktop, my knowledge started to fade about new tech.
My friend is trying to get into gaming, but im not sure she knows what she actually want to play or do. I was looking into some laptops like: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/msi-gl63-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-gtx-1660-ti-512-gb-ssd-black-10193784-pdt.html
Also i checked https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/ i bought laptop from them, and i was happy with it, still works. Just needed to grease some gears inside.
Budget: around 1000 pounds
Budget: around 1000 pounds
Ryzen preferably but graphics card can be nvidia.
It is more about specs i guess.
I want her to be able to play something new on medium to high graphics without problem. So she can experience best of the gaming. I was suggesting her laptop first and if she like gaming, she can get desktop later, or even use laptop with a bigger monitor. If you think that you dont need 1000 pounds to experience it, or even desktop is better. Let me know!
I want her to be able to play something new on medium to high graphics without problem. So she can experience best of the gaming. I was suggesting her laptop first and if she like gaming, she can get desktop later, or even use laptop with a bigger monitor. If you think that you dont need 1000 pounds to experience it, or even desktop is better. Let me know!
Your insights are always appreciated! What ado you think ?
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Besides that:
1) desktop provides better gaming experience - bigger screen, no lap burns, better performance/money
2) if you don't whether she will like gaming at all, it's silly to spend a grand on a laptop to figure out
We want to play together. There are very limited games with cross platform. And over all pc is just better thing to have. You can do more than just gaming isint it.
if you dont spend a grand, you wont be able to experience gaming of new games at its best. Otherwise, i would suggest her to get nintendo 64.
The budget was set by her, as i bought one laptop for same price and i was quiet happy with that, i was not against the budget.
Edit: If you think its not worth spending 1k on laptop, let me know please.
That Acer Nitro you've found looks like it's a good offer. It has only 256 GB of SSD space, but it looks like it allows you to install secondary hard drive if you want to do it later on. If you're ok with having to open the laptop's case and install another hard drive later on should she end up liking it, it's a good pick.
Also, buy a mouse when you buy a laptop for gaming. The touchpad is passable for office work, but for gaming a mouse is better.
Yeah, i did let her know about the mouse already. Also, depends on the laptop, the heat can be unbearable after a while while gaming. So keyboard might be good idea too.
Also, new Ryzen 9 4800 4900 processors looks really good, but probably the prices are too high at the moment. People say it has low power consumption and is as fast or faster than intel equivalent
Why are you looking at a laptop, anyway? Does she need to buy a laptop for other reasons and is just hoping that she can add some solid gaming ability to the purchase?
Pre build systems is not that great isint it? She was looking into bundles with everything, monitor, keyboard jara jara. But components are just weird.
Look at:
Asus G14 Ryzen 9
G15 Ryzen 7
Tuff Gaming A15 Ryzen 5, 7
These devices are the best bang for your buck in the given price ranges and come highly recommended. But don't take our word for it. Go on youtube and watch reviews, more than one. Check prices and compare to reviews of other products in those price ranges.
If you can't or won't build your own, then the next best thing is to get one built to order from a site that lets you pick the exact parts. Some sites have a configurator that lets you pick a few things, but not very much. That's not what you want. A site that lets you pick the power supply (exact brand name and model, not just wattage) probably lets you pick everything that matters.
From your links, it looks like you're in the UK. If you'd like, I could configure a desktop from the Cyber Power PC link. Does she need everything, including peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor, surge protector, speakers)? Having to fit a monitor into a budget means less space for other things. Also, I assume that that 1000 pound budget means including VAT and shipping.
Even for someone who should get a laptop, you have to ask about the use case to know what sort of laptop is sensible. A business traveler who will leave a gaming laptop in his hotel room but wants to play games when he gets there after work needs a very different laptop from someone who needs to carry a laptop around all day but isn't going to use it for anything more demanding than basic web browsing.
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If you are just gaming i would say no way,don't even think twice,get a desktop.So on that front i would wait for the new motherboards,the B5500 is it and get the best chip your budget can afford.You also need to look at a SSD and the fastest ram you can afford and how much,hmm 64 perhaps.
Peripherals,there are some really good air coolers and have proven to be BETTER than water cooling so don't get ripped off on that.Power supply,don't gimp too hard there get a decent one.
There are some decently powerful "mini pc" but in those cases you might find it cumbersome to put it together yourself because space is very limited.So seek out one you can buy online or from a retailer.Problem with retailers is they have to pay a lot of bills,guess who pays for that...YOU,so your going to get ripped off,including the typical warranty scare tactic which is where they make a lot of added money.
FYI...there are online videos to step you through your own build,don't be afraid,worst case scenario you have to ask someone.There is of course a manual as well.Obviously if your only saving 100-150 bucks,just buy it from the retailer and get the typical free 1 year warranty.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I should make a note that anything brand new will likely go through several phases of Bios updates,so if you are not comfortable with that idea,you might want to make sure the Bios is at least in it's second phase.
Another thing is that although there are some really good "expensive"Air coolers,water cooling is typically a better cooling system.Water cooling is also a higher RISK and more work to install.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Quizical i would like to see the build you make from cyberpower uk and maybe. https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/custom-pc/ or https://www.chillblast.com/build-a-custom-pc/configure-custom-amd-pc if you have some spare time. Not sure about delivery times, it doesnt make sense to wait 10+ days for custom builds does it?
She needs mouse, keyboard, monitor, headphones. If im not forgetting anything, no need for speakers now.
P.S. ALOT OF RGB she said not to forget to mention. No need to go out of the way to get that id say
G15 Ryzen 7
Also, ryzen processors come with wraith cooler isint it? which is completely fine ! its actually great, i still rocking it in my desktop.
I would never put water cooling in a pc, it just not what i want inside. no liquid!
There are some things that you might want to change there. For starters, if you think the case is hideous, then pick a different one. I picked the cheapest case to have more than one fan.
For networking, I assume that you're going to use ethernet. That's what you should use if you can. It's trivial if the computer is going to be placed next to the router, but may be impractical if it is placed at the other end of the house. They do offer some WiFi options, so you'll have to add that if you're going to place the computer far away from the router. If you're going to use ethernet, then you'll need an ethernet cable, but those are very cheap.
You could change the default browser if you want to. Or you could just add more browsers when you get the computer.
I included a cheap keyboard, mouse, and surge protector. If you want a more expensive one, you can take out what I chose and get something elsewhere. But the shipping alone to get a keyboard or mouse elsewhere can easily be more expensive than what they charge to include a cheap one when they ship the computer to you.
I did not include a monitor or an audio device. You'll need either speakers or headphones. And you'll really need a monitor. But I wasn't happy with their monitor options, so I'd just get one elsewhere. I made sure to leave space in the budget for a monitor, which will probably run about £100 for a relatively cheap IPS monitor.
If you put in those exact settings, the site will warn you that they don't think you actually need a 550 W power supply, and you could get away with a 350 W one. That would seriously limit your potential for future upgrades.
If you need to save space in the budget, the easiest place to cut is to drop the power supply down to a Radeon RX 590, which is a slower card, but also cheaper.
Downgraded:
Downgraded card to rx 580, keyboard and mouse too.
SSD NVME drive was switched to standard SSD 250gb + HDD. Downgraded processor to 3300x as Quiz initially suggested.
PSU: InWin A55 550W 80+
Opt-out of the windows, can be done manually and cheaper with OEM license.
Downgrades were done because of the monitor. She wants as big as possible. 32` inches. And its pricey, do you think its a good idea to get bigger monitor with such specs?
```ini
Case = Cyberpower ONYXIA Mid-Tower White Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, Front & Side Tempered Glass
Extra_Fans = Maximum Airflow with 3 x 120mm LED Coloured Cooling Fans for your selected case (Blue Colour) Fans Only (no upgrade)
CPU = AMD Ryzen 3 3300X - 4-Core 3.8GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo - 16MB L3 Cache (No On-board Graphics)
Overclocking = No Overclocking
Cooler = AMD Ryzen Wraith CPU Cooler
Motherboard = ASUS PRIME B450-PLUS: ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2
M2 = None Selected
M2nd = None Selected
SSD = 240GB WD Green 2.5" SSD - 545MB/s Read / 465MB/s Write 1 Drive
HDD = 1TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive 1 Drive
RAID = None Selected
RAM = 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3000mhz Dual Channel Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader
GPU = AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, DP, 5 Monitor Support Single Card
PSU = InWin A55 550W 80+ Certified Gaming Power Supply
PSU_Braided_Cables = None Selected
Wifi = N300 Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[Total Price]
PRICE = £630
```756 with VAT
The price tag is a substantial part of the reason to pick one part rather than another, and I do look at prices when picking parts. What one site charges for something can easily be very different from what another site charges for something equivalent.
It's unlikely that a 240 GB SSD plus a 1 TB hard drive makes much sense. You could probably get a 1 TB SSD for nearly the same price. Don't worry too much about the difference between SATA and NVMe. The big difference is between an SSD and a hard drive.