The Max Average Pledge Per Backer for Star Citizen is Almost $400 According to Publicly Gathered Dat

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According to public gathered and assembled data from one Redditor, it looks like the maximum average per backer to Star Citizen is just under $400.

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Aeander

Does that include the bajillion dollars spent on ships?

mklinic

What's a max average? Isn't an average typically...just that? Or am I over thinking it?

Aeander

Incoming Star Citizen defense force to explain why $400 for a game that won't release in your grandchildrens' lifetime is not that bad. (Though let's be real, if you're a $400 Star Citizen backer, you won't have children, let alone grandchildren).

Iselin

What, pray tell, is a maximum average?

Alpius

disgusting

rapatpamp

I really want to know what the people who payed 10k$ or more for a friggin ship REALLY think.

Not some BS that "it's playable" ect just to not look stupid.

I wouldn't pay that much in a fully playable game much less a glorified demo.

mibgeneral

I smell fraud - mark my words, CEO will jump ship.

Amathe

I took a stab at defining maximum average, but it was a swing and a miss.

Tiller

mibgeneral said:

I smell fraud - mark my words, CEO will jump ship.

I see what you did there.

Cue the pictures of fake revue stream increases over time and screen shots showing the number of Twitch viewer-bots they buy to make us think it's the most viewed game on twitch.

olepi

Star Citizen has been very careful to make clear that donating money to SC is just that, a donation. They are not guaranteeing a finished product, no expectation of a finished game is implied when you donate, and you are not "buying" anything.

They also make clear that nobody gets a refund if there is no game at the end.

So it's not a fraud, so long as you remember that you are simply giving money away, not buying anything.

Tiller

olepi said:

Star Citizen has been very careful to make clear that donating money to SC is just that, a donation. They are not guaranteeing a finished product, no expectation of a finished game is implied when you donate, and you are not "buying" anything.



They also make clear that nobody gets a refund if there is no game at the end.



So it's not a fraud, so long as you remember that you are simply giving money away, not buying anything.

loooool....In a perfect world maybe; but we all know if someone with enough money wanted to go after them and argue their intent in court, they can. No guarantee CR would win just because people agree to some terms.

Aeander

Tiller said:

olepi said:

Star Citizen has been very careful to make clear that donating money to SC is just that, a donation. They are not guaranteeing a finished product, no expectation of a finished game is implied when you donate, and you are not "buying" anything.



They also make clear that nobody gets a refund if there is no game at the end.



So it's not a fraud, so long as you remember that you are simply giving money away, not buying anything.

loooool....In a perfect world maybe; but we all know if someone with enough money wanted to go after them and argue their intent in court, they can. No guarantee CR would win just because people agree to some terms.

Yep. ToS aren't often held up as legally enforceable. Particularly when they contradict the ToS of their platform or regional laws.

FrodoFragins

mklinic said:

What's a max average? Isn't an average typically...just that? Or am I over thinking it?

My only guess is that they feel they may be underestimating the true number of donors. Meaning the the average for the same dollar amount of donations would go down if that was corrected.

FrodoFragins

olepi said:

Star Citizen has been very careful to make clear that donating money to SC is just that, a donation. They are not guaranteeing a finished product, no expectation of a finished game is implied when you donate, and you are not "buying" anything.



They also make clear that nobody gets a refund if there is no game at the end.



So it's not a fraud, so long as you remember that you are simply giving money away, not buying anything.

Even if it's not legally fraud, which would be REALLY hard to prove anyway, it has most certainly become a full on scam. They will not push towards any kind of release until the donations start drying up.

DrunkWolf

whats the middle and low average?

Jamar870

I don't think too many here really care about how much the average "donation" is, what would be more exciting would be the announcement of a "true" beta and maybe followed with a release date.

ircaddicts

You know what they say about fools and their money now don't you. This is a perfect example of it

Vrika

That looks like good statistics, but one hell of unclear choice of terms

Do the author's numbers mean on 20th October we had:
 -62 354 people who had paid $1 000 or more so that they were counted as Concierge
 -663 773 other game owners who had paid less than $1 000, bringing total game owners to: 726 127 people
 -2 073 352 people who had registered but did not own the game (mostly accounts made during free trials)

The total funding was over 315 million. Split between all game owners, it would mean average Star Citizen owner had paid $434.63

Vrika

Iselin said:

What, pray tell, is a maximum average?

It means the average can't be higher than that, but it can be lower.

The author does not know what the average is, he's just determined it can't be more than that.

IceAge

Vrika said:

That looks like good statistics, but one hell of unclear choice of terms

Do the author's numbers mean on 20th October we had:
 -62 354 people who had paid $1 000 or more so that they were counted as Concierge
 -663 773 other game owners who had paid less than $1 000, bringing total game owners to: 726 127 people
 -2 073 352 people who had registered but did not own the game (mostly accounts made during free trials)

The total funding was over 315 million. Split between all game owners, it would mean average Star Citizen owner haid paid $434.63

Which its blowing my mind,

They have 726k Whales and on average, every single whale has paid $434.63 to this scam. That's ...pathetic and disappointing!

olepi

" -663 773 other game owners who had paid less than $1 000, bringing total game owners to: 726 127 people"

Just to be clear, there are no game "owners". Nobody can buy the game, or own it. There are people who donated money towards a possible future game that may or may not ever come to fruition.

But nobody "owns" the game.

Iselin

olepi said:

" -663 773 other game owners who had paid less than $1 000, bringing total game owners to: 726 127 people"

Just to be clear, there are no game "owners". Nobody can buy the game, or own it. There are people who donated money towards a possible future game that may or may not ever come to fruition.

But nobody "owns" the game.

The legal definition of a donation is this:

Donation is the act by which the owner of a thing voluntarily transfers the title and possession of the same from himself to another person, without any consideration; a gift.

I have no idea why you and a handful of others are so insistent in buying into the semantics of crowdfunded games "donations."

You can't ignore the "without any consideration" part of the definition.

If you get something of value back for making your "donation" - i.e. a consideration -  it isn't one.

xkeeper

I can see you pledge like 59USD as a "preorder" bet on this unfinished garbage. But there are people pledging over 20k USD...

Poor idiots

Quizzical

Tiller said:

olepi said:

Star Citizen has been very careful to make clear that donating money to SC is just that, a donation. They are not guaranteeing a finished product, no expectation of a finished game is implied when you donate, and you are not "buying" anything.



They also make clear that nobody gets a refund if there is no game at the end.



So it's not a fraud, so long as you remember that you are simply giving money away, not buying anything.

loooool....In a perfect world maybe; but we all know if someone with enough money wanted to go after them and argue their intent in court, they can. No guarantee CR would win just because people agree to some terms.

There's an implicit rule that you can only sue people who have money.  If the money is spent and gone and you win a lawsuit saying that RSI owes backers $100 million, they're not getting the money because it's already spent and gone.