Grinding Gear Games says Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas is the Most Successful Xpac They've Rele

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Grinding Gear Games says Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas is the Most Successful Xpac They've Released | MMORPG.com

Grinding Gear Games has touted over 265K concurrent players at launch for their latest Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas expansion. This cemented the game as their most successful expansion to date, and pushed POE to the 4th most popular game on steam during launch.

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danasty

and he is right. feels and plays good! no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

TheIdealist

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good!
no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

With proper pvp, POE is easy target

FrodoFragins

TheIdealist said:

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good!
no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

With proper pvp, POE is easy target

balanced PVP and ARPGs don't mix and if they do that means they ruined the PVE portion

Ryuushima

FrodoFragins said:

TheIdealist said:

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good!

no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

With proper pvp, POE is easy target

balanced PVP and ARPGs don't mix and if they do that means they ruined the PVE portion

not really an ARPG but Guildwars 1 had entertaining PvE and PvP for it's time. Not perfect by any means but I'd say it is possible.

Can blizzard do it? Heck no, blizzard fails at balancing and only wants money and timesinks nowadays

eoloe

Ryuushima said:

not really an ARPG but Guildwars 1 had entertaining PvE and PvP for it's time. Not perfect by any means but I'd say it is possible.

Well I think PVE wise GW1 had interesting missions to **solve**. And the mobs had patrolling patterns, vs. standing ones in most other MMORPGs. That added a layer of difficulty if you did not want to aggro everything and get wiped.

As for the Pvp, I would argue it was probably the best PvP I ever played. It was a kind of team Magic the gathering in which position, execution, team coordination, and builds were of tremendous importance. Even nowadays MOBAs with their focus on Pvp do not have the creative flexibility nor the variety of objectives that GW1 had.

Avanah

Took a break from PoE for the last year and came back for Echos.

SO much fun and things to do.

Will take forever to do everything in this Game.

Great Job GGG.

Theocritus

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

Scorchien

Theocritus said:

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

the new season is fun hit 85 on a Chaos Archer last nite .. you should check it out

lahnmir

Scorchien said:

Theocritus said:

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

the new season is fun hit 85 on a Chaos Archer last nite .. you should check it out

Just started a Chaos Archer myself this round. Not using any guide but its great fun so far!

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

GrindcoreTHRALL

TheIdealist said:

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good!

no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

With proper pvp, POE is easy target

Ya PoE fucked up PvP really bad. D4 had David Kim working on balancing and that dude is a god. I think D4 will shred PoE2 and I have been playing PoE since alpha and was an Internal tester for PvP.

kitarad

GGG is a fantastic company. I love Path of Exile a lot and have sunk so many hundreds of hours in it.

QSatu

The new league is fun but the longer I play I start to remember why i quit PoE. The game feels a little bloated and it's far easier to buy stuff than farm stuff. 
Recently I've been checking out Last Epoch and it seems like arpg which will suit me better  but it's still in early access  

Aeander

eoloe said:

Ryuushima said:

not really an ARPG but Guildwars 1 had entertaining PvE and PvP for it's time. Not perfect by any means but I'd say it is possible.

Well I think PVE wise GW1 had interesting missions to **solve**. And the mobs had patrolling patterns, vs. standing ones in most other MMORPGs. That added a layer of difficulty if you did not want to aggro everything and get wiped.

As for the Pvp, I would argue it was probably the best PvP I ever played. It was a kind of team Magic the gathering in which position, execution, team coordination, and builds were of tremendous importance. Even nowadays MOBAs with their focus on Pvp do not have the creative flexibility nor the variety of objectives that GW1 had.

Guild Wars 1 was just a masterpiece in general. It was based on knowledge and intellect, not reflexes or mechanical skill.

And the way it used free respecs to encourage players to experiment with its depth is something games should have taken notes from. I'd rather have games with lots of ways to "get it wrong" but little punishment for doing so than games with few ways to "get it wrong" with massive grind penalties for failure.

Areteo

Funny, this is the one that finally made me quit the game, due to the random insta-death by Sirus in maps.

Theocritus

Scorchien said:

Theocritus said:

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

the new season is fun hit 85 on a Chaos Archer last nite .. you should check it out

I did enjoy the archer class and havent tried a Chaos one yet.

Xatsh

Toxic rain archer is a fun build. One of my go to league starters. Scales really well without top tier gear.

Scorchien

lahnmir said:

Scorchien said:

Theocritus said:

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

the new season is fun hit 85 on a Chaos Archer last nite .. you should check it out

Just started a Chaos Archer myself this round. Not using any guide but its great fun so far!

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

I have Caustic Arrow 6 linked , really fun with Phasing and some run speed , like guerilla warfare

kitarad

I am actually doing a molten strike build. It is a little different now not so many lava blobs flying out now. Was disconcerting to see the change but I guess it was too powerful before but damn it was fun.

Checked out a trap build not too sure if I want to do a flamethrower, explosive trap since I have the molten strike already not another fire effect so was looking at cold or lightening but trap builds always make me unhappy until you hit the sweet spot where your mana isn't out instantly after a few traps.

Everyone is playing a cyclone if you look at the forum build list. I don't like playing what everyone else is doing but looking for that build that makes me just powerful enough but not making things too easy or too cumbersome is hard. Some skills are to unwieldly between the cooldown and mana regen that finding the right thing can be almost as nerve wrecking as taking the build to the maps.

Cryomatrix

Scorchien said:

Theocritus said:

I've taken a break from PoE for a year or so but it is impressive how they keep the game fresh.

the new season is fun hit 85 on a Chaos Archer last nite .. you should check it out

Olay hardcore with me, i just hit 88 on my ice crash gladiator using abyssus, i 1 shot bosses in maps. 

Play hardcore guys, i play from 9 pm California time so i could catch some europeana in the morning.

Cryomatrix

kitarad said:

I am actually doing a molten strike build. It is a little different now not so many lava blobs flying out now. Was disconcerting to see the change but I guess it was too powerful before but damn it was fun.

Checked out a trap build not too sure if I want to do a flamethrower, explosive trap since I have the molten strike already not another fire effect so was looking at cold or lightening but trap builds always make me unhappy until you hit the sweet spot where your mana isn't out instantly after a few traps.

Everyone is playing a cyclone if you look at the forum build list. I don't like playing what everyone else is doing but looking for that build that makes me just powerful enough but not making things too easy or too cumbersome is hard. Some skills are to unwieldly between the cooldown and mana regen that finding the right thing can be almost as nerve wrecking as taking the build to the maps.

I made my own trap build it works great as a league starter. Hit lvl 90 both times i made it. 

I utilize flamethrower trap and flams surge crit build, i made myself. 

kitarad

Cryomatrix said:

kitarad said:

I am actually doing a molten strike build. It is a little different now not so many lava blobs flying out now. Was disconcerting to see the change but I guess it was too powerful before but damn it was fun.

Checked out a trap build not too sure if I want to do a flamethrower, explosive trap since I have the molten strike already not another fire effect so was looking at cold or lightening but trap builds always make me unhappy until you hit the sweet spot where your mana isn't out instantly after a few traps.

Everyone is playing a cyclone if you look at the forum build list. I don't like playing what everyone else is doing but looking for that build that makes me just powerful enough but not making things too easy or too cumbersome is hard. Some skills are to unwieldly between the cooldown and mana regen that finding the right thing can be almost as nerve wrecking as taking the build to the maps.

I made my own trap build it works great as a league starter. Hit lvl 90 both times i made it. 

I utilize flamethrower trap and flams surge crit build, i made myself. 

May I have a look at it please?

Cryomatrix

kitarad said:

Cryomatrix said:

kitarad said:

I am actually doing a molten strike build. It is a little different now not so many lava blobs flying out now. Was disconcerting to see the change but I guess it was too powerful before but damn it was fun.

Checked out a trap build not too sure if I want to do a flamethrower, explosive trap since I have the molten strike already not another fire effect so was looking at cold or lightening but trap builds always make me unhappy until you hit the sweet spot where your mana isn't out instantly after a few traps.

Everyone is playing a cyclone if you look at the forum build list. I don't like playing what everyone else is doing but looking for that build that makes me just powerful enough but not making things too easy or too cumbersome is hard. Some skills are to unwieldly between the cooldown and mana regen that finding the right thing can be almost as nerve wrecking as taking the build to the maps.

I made my own trap build it works great as a league starter. Hit lvl 90 both times i made it. 

I utilize flamethrower trap and flams surge crit build, i made myself. 

May I have a look at it please?

You can check out my profile. My account is Cryomatrix5. Look at my jad_surgebinder.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Cryomatrix5/characters

The only necessary piece of equipment is the corona solaris. Blinds enemies for protection and increases crit. Flamethrower trap is to ignite enemies and flame surge to melt bosses. I have enfeeble curse aura as well but i melt bosses though. This build is great for starter, ive made it twice to start leagues. Also very strong at low levels too. 

My other characters i have is a flickerstrike build and my ice crash build. If the char is in standard it means he died and i stopped playing it. I liked my spectral throw poison scion, died to a glitch but my apm was nuts for the character, more than in starcraft 2. 

Jad shaper is my ice crash guy who im playing currently. I also have a 36 this league that wjll be my curse and aura build and i do it as im helping a friend play hardcore so it is for protection. 

Another super safe build i made last time was my dual strike gladiator utilizing bleed and chain hook. 

I also utilize mana flasks all the time. I also make my own builds which is fun. At times i screw em up and need to ask help or i abandon them, but it is fun nonetheless. 

FrodoFragins

postofficetcup said:

TheIdealist said:

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good!

no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

With proper pvp, POE is easy target

Ya PoE fucked up PvP really bad. D4 had David Kim working on balancing and that dude is a god. I think D4 will shred PoE2 and I have been playing PoE since alpha and was an Internal tester for PvP.

POE and D2 are the pinnacles(of their time) for ARPG.  Neither have balanced PVP and that's fine.  Because when you analyze what needs to be done to balance it you remove a tons of viable and powerful builds as well as affixes.

David Kim was a bad choice for D4 for the reasons you state.  He dumbed down item affixes to try and normalize damage/defense numbers.  It was met with well deserved scorn.  His departure is nothing but a good thing and now he can go somewhere where PVP balance is actually important.

The more you try to balance PVP in an ARPG, the more it turns into MOBA character design.

With that said, people loved the one time POE Battle Royale event but they might not love it so much if it was a regular fixture, which is probably why it hasn't returned in some form.

FrodoFragins

danasty said:

and he is right. feels and plays good! no way blizzrd can beat poe with diablo 4. "maybe" with better graphic. but definitelly not with the content.

D4 will never beat it in replayabilty and depth.  But it will sadly still beat it in terms of income and peak player numbers at launch.  My only hope is that D4 is a great option during late league POE. 

I think POE2 should actually streamline a lot of systems and drastically improve the new player experience.  The game is definitely overly bloated imo but that bloat does benefit the no-lifers(not meant as an insult).  They've clearly decided(learned) that giving too much stuff to do and learn is far better than catering to newer or overwhelmed players. 

cheyane

Venom gyre is such a cool skill. Haven't quite managed to get it to kill bosses well but plague bearer is helping. Still learning how to play it well. God I love all these new builds and opportunities to create some more alts.

I still love listening to Malachai. Never tire of his voice.