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A Diablo 2 Remake is Still in Development at Blizzard | MMORPG.com

Last week we detailed a merger of Blizzard and Vicarious Visions, a subsidiary of Activision that has been working on several titles, one of which was a Diablo II remake in coordination with Blizzard.

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alkarionlog

nice so not only they fucked up with D3 for the IP, now they want to toss salt on D2 too, and after the W3 fiasco....

LamiaCritter

I give it five minutes before, as gamers typically do, the fans start crying. Again. Because they're not willing to give it a chance.

FrodoFragins

Whether they actually fix WC3:Refunded as promised will be a determining factor on my eventually buying a D2 remake.

Horusra

FrodoFragins said:

Whether they actually fix WC3:Refunded as promised will be a determining factor on my eventually buying a D2 remake.

They got the multi play lag and match maker working...so I am happy 

Wizardry

LamiaCritter said:

I give it five minutes before, as gamers typically do, the fans start crying. Again. Because they're not willing to give it a chance.

Well i could argue that Blizzard is not giving their teams the ability to be CREATIVE and design a NEW game,a new IP.

This trend of rehashing old popular games is just a money grab,there is no reason imo for doing it other than they see an EASY money grab.

ARPG's are already incredibly shallow games to make from scratch let alone rehash old code.

There is the one exception and that FFVII and only because the EFFORT put into the remake was like building a brand new game.I do not for one second believe this coord effort choosing to rehash an arpg plan on anything amazing except another arpg.
BOTH Blizzard and Squre Enix need to get off their ass and quit rehashing the Warcraft and Final Fantasy themes,it kind of tells me they are both afraid,no confidence in trying to sell a new IP.

I mean geesh look  Hearthstone...using Warcraft as it's theme,Look at HOTS rehashing Warcraft heroes,they are simply are afraid to break free from that money train.

Finvega

Is that doofus who said "you may think you do, but you really don't" regarding classic WoW still employed there? If so, this article makes perfect sense.

FrodoFragins

Horusra said:

FrodoFragins said:

Whether they actually fix WC3:Refunded as promised will be a determining factor on my eventually buying a D2 remake.

They got the multi play lag and match maker working...so I am happy 

They still have lots of things like broken mods to fix the last i heard

Theocritus

It was fun killing the end boss in D2 until hacks started appearing that would steal all the loot the second that the boss died....Also there is alot more competition around for this style of game than there was when D2 was originally made.

Panther2103

Theocritus said:

It was fun killing the end boss in D2 until hacks started appearing that would steal all the loot the second that the boss died....Also there is alot more competition around for this style of game than there was when D2 was originally made.

Were you not playing on Closed Bnet? Hacks were not really all that present in closed, I only ever encountered them in open.

FrodoFragins

Panther2103 said:

Theocritus said:

It was fun killing the end boss in D2 until hacks started appearing that would steal all the loot the second that the boss died....Also there is alot more competition around for this style of game than there was when D2 was originally made.

Were you not playing on Closed Bnet? Hacks were not really all that present in closed, I only ever encountered them in open.

closed bnet was filled with pickits and bots. the bots endlessly ran baal runs and I ended up trying pickits to pick up the loot before the bots.  It worked quite well.  Before that I had to spam click near the boss and pray.

I did baal runs to level and solo runs for loot so it's not like it killed the game.

Albatroes

Can't wait for them to screw up my all-time favorite ARPG with their chinese out-sourcing.

TwistedSister77

Torval said:

I'm somewhat interested, but will wait to see how it ends up. I like D2, played the hell out of it (haha), but also think it's a bit overrated. There are a lot of really good ARPGs and hybrids out right now, so there are others that I'm playing and this isn't high on my list. It is still good to hear they're on track though.

For it's day and age, it was not overrated imo(for so many reasons).  It might not have been the first ARPG, but it is like the huge gene leap to the mother of future ARPGs.  It set a benchmark.

But, I don't want to see some cash in on a classic that will disappoint.

Albatroes

Torval said:

Albatroes said:

Can't wait for them to screw up my all-time favorite ARPG with their chinese out-sourcing.

The studio behind the Tony Hawk team remake is doing the work on this. They were highly praised for the quality of that remake and the TH fans are very picky.

Wasn't aware of that, so that does intrigue me a bit now since the remake was really well done for TH.

The one thing I take issue with Blizzard on in regards to WC3: Reforged isn't the the game itself and what they did to it but what they did to the versions of the game people already had by pretty much removing it and giving people the 'updated' one. I guess that's the problem with digital, you 'own' stuff as long as companies say you do with them being able to add/remove whatever they want down the road if they decide to.

Gorwe

alkarionlog said:

nice so not only they fucked up with D3 for the IP, now they want to toss salt on D2 too, and after the W3 fiasco....

Anything could happen, but I have more trust in Vicarious than...tbh? I had even in Blizz.

I suggest cautious optimism. Cautious because it is a smart thing to do, especially when in the row with Activision, EA etc and optimistic because of VV(=Tony Hawk Remaster devs).

We shall see.

Jyiiga

I'll take this over their mobile diablo.

GrindcoreTHRALL

FrodoFragins said:

Panther2103 said:

Theocritus said:

It was fun killing the end boss in D2 until hacks started appearing that would steal all the loot the second that the boss died....Also there is alot more competition around for this style of game than there was when D2 was originally made.

Were you not playing on Closed Bnet? Hacks were not really all that present in closed, I only ever encountered them in open.

closed bnet was filled with pickits and bots. the bots endlessly ran baal runs and I ended up trying pickits to pick up the loot before the bots.  It worked quite well.  Before that I had to spam click near the boss and pray.

I did baal runs to level and solo runs for loot so it's not like it killed the game.

Still doesn't corroborate. Bots are not hacks. There was very little actually "Trainers", "Scipting" other than bots, or actual hacking in closed Bnet. The worst was duplicated items that would make it past some patches only to be traded to unsuspecting innocent players and then wiped in a later patch. There was some bugged ZoD socketed items that retained the indestructible attributes. I think the worst would be map hacks but Bnet did a good job of banning accounts using basic shit like this. Legit players knew what to not trade for or knew what legit non duped items looked like which also was the reason unidentified version of BIS items became so valuable (Cant create unidentified uniques).

GreenSage39

Of course it is! That's all millenials can do is rehash. No one at blizzard is the "old school blizzard" we all grew up with fyi. And Activision staff and commitee is all really really old people who's been in the business for generations.

Luiden

GreenSage39 said:

Of course it is! That's all millenials can do is rehash. No one at blizzard is the "old school blizzard" we all grew up with fyi. And Activision staff and commitee is all really really old people who's been in the business for generations.

Don't go spreading truths, you will hurt somebody's feelings. Why create a new ip when you can just get one for free.. it's the millennial way.

FrodoFragins

TwistedSister77 said:

Torval said:

I'm somewhat interested, but will wait to see how it ends up. I like D2, played the hell out of it (haha), but also think it's a bit overrated. There are a lot of really good ARPGs and hybrids out right now, so there are others that I'm playing and this isn't high on my list. It is still good to hear they're on track though.

For it's day and age, it was not overrated imo(for so many reasons).  It might not have been the first ARPG, but it is like the huge gene leap to the mother of future ARPGs.  It set a benchmark.

But, I don't want to see some cash in on a classic that will disappoint.

I think Diablo 1 almost certainly was the first ARPG.  I don't think items were really prevalent with previous real time hack and slashes.

Astropuyo

First off naw ARpg's were around back when i was a little ass kid in the 80's.
They just weren't popular.

Unless periodically generated items and action combat make of the genre statement which of course would be dumb as hell.


Anyhow no one wants diablo 2 again. It was only good then because it's what we had. I have huge good memories of playing it with my high school girlfriend but that's about it. Everything about the game would piss people off now.


As for you anti millennials out there seriously are 50+ on a mmo site complaining about age lol.

You dudes sound like those gen x guys who would haunt the old off topic here and bitch about the left and right back in 06. That's you guys. You sound old as hell. This coming from the oldest line of millennials.

Go drink your ovaltine and talk about marsbars.

Astropuyo

GreenSage39 said:

Of course it is! That's all millenials can do is rehash. No one at blizzard is the "old school blizzard" we all grew up with fyi. And Activision staff and commitee is all really really old people who's been in the business for generations.

Bro boomer devs keep remaking the same game. Look at lord britishes ass or any of the blizzard alumni. Not a new idea in literal decades. Decades. Age isn't the problem it's the investors.

Like name one new genre twisting game that came from the ancient ones.

I wish a pile of six year olds would get together and make a new game type we'd probably get some splatoon level stuff..

FrodoFragins

Astropuyo said:

First off naw ARpg's were around back when i was a little ass kid in the 80's.
They just weren't popular.

Name them.

ARPGs spawned form rogue-likes which had no action

Gauntlet wasn't an ARPG it was a hack n slash

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FrodoFragins

Torval said:

FrodoFragins said:

Astropuyo said:

First off naw ARpg's were around back when i was a little ass kid in the 80's.
They just weren't popular.

Name them.

ARPGs spawned form rogue-likes which had no action

Gauntlet wasn't an ARPG it was a hack n slash

Where did you get that? ARPGs (ACTION RPGs) originated from console Japanese Action RPGs like Zelda. That is where they have their roots.

I wouldn't call zelda an ARPG but it's close.  there are no classes or skills and so it's mainly a slightly deeper hack n  slash and so maybe an action adventure.

FrodoFragins

I'm having a hard time finding when the term was created.  But it's pretty clear what the genre of ARPGs entails.  I think those older games if released today would not be called ARPGs.

And I never once heard of the ARPG genre when buying Zelda in the 80's.