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Black Desert on Steam for $0.99

AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  • Po_ggPo_gg Member EpicPosts: 5,749
    edited July 2021
    I've last played (very casually) several months ago, and pretty much agree with tzervo's 2017 views.

    But since Al is a similar journey player like me, here's some of my takes on it:
    -Looks amazing, as tzervo said.
    -The story is sub-average, in presentation too, just as in translation.
    -I prefer regular combat, so I didn't like too much its action-heavy combat, but many say it's on the top shelf among action games.
    -Exploration is fun, world also looks great.
    -Lots of interesting and fun mechanics (crafting, ships, houses, mounts)
    -Waay too grind-heavy, and weighted down even more with RNG as tzervo said
    -Also way too cash-shop heavy
    -And at the top levels it's full-on pvp, which was pretty much the dealbreaker for me.

    Nevertheless, if you have some spare time, for 99 cents it's definitely worth a try. Just playing around for a few weeks with the different mechanics and exploring the world will get your money's worth of entertainment :)
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)
    Think of it as free to play game. The 99 cent price is just there to distract you from how they actually make their money.

    As the whether Black Desert Online is worth playing, it's not a particularly good game but not particularly bad either. If you're looking for a good game in some genre, there are better alternatives. But if you're looking for MMO specifically, then I'd say it's worth testing out.
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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,649
    edited July 2021
    Grindfest, pretty game, lots of classes to play. Beware the cash shop.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.
    Gdemami[Deleted User]AlBQuirky
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)
    It depends on what interest you. If you enjoy grouping and doing high level content and being competitive then forget it.

    However if you enjoy trading and building up a worker empire and getting the best price for your goods and travelling to far off places with your wagon to deliver said goods you will be quite happy with this game. You can strategize your resource gathering and depending on the market make a lot of money. You can breed horses and if you get a good one you can sell it. You can grow crops and fish.

    Because of the rng in the way gear is upgraded it takes an insane amount of money to upgrade your gear. Many just RMT it.
    AlBQuirky

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    edited July 2021
    I'm from an a past era where consumer thinking was "you get what you pay for" so things offered for super cheap or free are viewed with strong suspicion or likely to be lacking in real value.

    So a 99 cent price point is actually a disincentive in my case, but I'm definitely not the typical game consumer.

    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.

    That's it actually. But for $1 you'll get your money worth out of the game, and discover a new take on gathering, crafting and housing I personally enjoyed a LOT.


    See, this is another thing I can't do. Knowing there is a big "failure" point on the horizon means I see no reason to play it at all, just to experience some content until I hit it.

    It's why I gave up on MMORPGs for the most part, especially if they had clear paths to raiding and or gear grinding end games, all seemed so pointless.

    I guess with games like EVE there was no clear path or direction so I never could see when the fun might end, hence playing it for 10 years.









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  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    BDO only shines as a multiple years experience. It is grind heavy but generous with its regular players. It has also never been so easy to approach with accelerated leveling season servers and their rewards.

    BDO is also great as a mindless transe effect. You can do various activities while thinking about something else at the same time.
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  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    edited July 2021
    Kyleran said:
    I'm from an a past era where consumer thinking was "you get what you pay for" so things offered for super cheap or free are viewed with strong suspicion or likely to be lacking in real value.

    So a 99 cent price point is actually a disincentive in my case, but I'm definitely not the typical game consumer.

    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.

    That's it actually. But for $1 you'll get your money worth out of the game, and discover a new take on gathering, crafting and housing I personally enjoyed a LOT.


    See, this is another thing I can't do. Knowing there is a big "failure" point on the horizon means I see no reason to play it at all, just to experience some content until I hit it.

    It's why I gave up on MMORPGs for the most part, especially if they had clear paths to raiding and or gear grinding end games, all seemed so pointless.

    I guess with games like EVE there was no clear path or direction so I never could see when the fun might end, hence playing it for 10 years.

    I'm basically in the same boat. With BDO, though, I've heard some interesting takes on it. Usually, I don't go back to MMOs I've played before if I know that eventually I hit "that spot" where I know I'll be logging off for good.

    Here, I think I can play this just to see what it has to offer. At least for awhile :)

    Thanks to the other posters for kind of reinforcing what I had gathered. I think I'll be giving this a look-see :)
    [Deleted User]

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    I looked at BDO's website...

    Until Jul 14, 2021:
    Novice Edition $1 ($10 usually)--------- Game Pass (?) only
    Master Edition $15 ($30 usually)------- Value Pack 15 days?
    Legendary Edition $45 (%90 usually)- Value Pack 90 days?

    I assuming that BDO is subscription based. I'm reading the "value packs" as subscription inclusions.

    So the $1 purchase has zero days of play, without also paying for a subscription?

    Not a detriment for my looking into it. I just need to know if either the Master or Legendary editions may be a better purchase :)

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,481
    I just wish they'd sell the character builder without the game.  Takes up too much space for my sole interest in playing with the character designer.  

    I did like the 'load random character design', which brought in other players character designs for perusal.  Occasional surprising looks via that.
    AlBQuirky

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    AlBQuirky said:
    Kyleran said:
    I'm from an a past era where consumer thinking was "you get what you pay for" so things offered for super cheap or free are viewed with strong suspicion or likely to be lacking in real value.

    So a 99 cent price point is actually a disincentive in my case, but I'm definitely not the typical game consumer.

    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.

    That's it actually. But for $1 you'll get your money worth out of the game, and discover a new take on gathering, crafting and housing I personally enjoyed a LOT.


    See, this is another thing I can't do. Knowing there is a big "failure" point on the horizon means I see no reason to play it at all, just to experience some content until I hit it.

    It's why I gave up on MMORPGs for the most part, especially if they had clear paths to raiding and or gear grinding end games, all seemed so pointless.

    I guess with games like EVE there was no clear path or direction so I never could see when the fun might end, hence playing it for 10 years.

    I'm basically in the same boat. With BDO, though, I've heard some interesting takes on it. Usually, I don't go back to MMOs I've played before if I know that eventually I hit "that spot" where I know I'll be logging off for good.

    Here, I think I can play this just to see what it has to offer. At least for awhile :)

    Thanks to the other posters for kind of reinforcing what I had gathered. I think I'll be giving this a look-see :)

    For .99 I think tis worth it.....Yes you will hit a leveling wall but like others have said there are other things to do and you may really enjoy those aspects of the game.....IF some other popular MMO came down in price to .99 I would take a look at it too even if it had weaknesses like most of them do.
    AlBQuirky
  • AlBQuirkyAlBQuirky Member EpicPosts: 7,432
    tzervo said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    I looked at BDO's website...

    Until Jul 14, 2021:
    Novice Edition $1 ($10 usually)--------- Game Pass (?) only
    Master Edition $15 ($30 usually)------- Value Pack 15 days?
    Legendary Edition $45 (%90 usually)- Value Pack 90 days?

    I assuming that BDO is subscription based. I'm reading the "value packs" as subscription inclusions.

    So the $1 purchase has zero days of play, without also paying for a subscription?

    Not a detriment for my looking into it. I just need to know if either the Master or Legendary editions may be a better purchase :)
    Sub (value pack) gives market tax reduction, cosmetics perks and some other things iirc (I think bag slots or sumfin). It is not needed to play.

    Yes, the latter 2 packages (Master/Legendary) also had other items like bag slots, pets of some kind, a "special" outfit, and pearls.

    - Al

    Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
    - FARGIN_WAR


  • AkulasAkulas Member RarePosts: 3,029
    The community is really bad. It has alot of good ideas that look like they were almost finished but not quite. Like you can play the game as a trading sim if you want for example. Games only interested in our wallet though sadly. Take the p2w and bad community out of it the game is okish enough to waste a week or so on.
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,206
    After reading this thread, I decided to go ahead and put my .99 cents to see what this game has to offer.

    So it started off great with the character creator.  Then it went down hill from there.

    This is why I hate playing games years after release.  Game seems to be on EZ mode leveling now.  I got to level 25 in a couple of hours max.  The quests hold your hand completely, talk to some guy read a bunch of nonsense get a level, take 5 steps talk to someone else bam get a level.  Kill some mob get a level, use an AOE attack, another level.  I am not even playing a season char, cant imagine if I was getting 30% more xp or whatever it is.

    I am guessing you actually get to do some combat at some point, as people saying this game is grindy.  But I didn't see it.  Was so boring doing these nonsense quests trying to figure out an unintuitive UI.

    My biggest gripe is how all the quests are pushing you to the Cash shop.  Its almost like they put the Main quest in place to show all the cash shop items.

    After I reached 25 I decided to take a break from EZ mode quests and try some Life skills.  I ran out of inventory pretty quick, and couldn't figure out how to get all the ingredients to make potions, so without inventory space, it seemed pointless.

    Only positive other than character creator was at least this game doesn't give mass amount of trash loot.

    Maybe this game get amazing at end game who knows, but from what I seen so far, its trash.  Hard to believe I didn't feel like I got my moneys worth.  LOL .99, its not the money, I lost 6 hrs. of time I will never get back.  You couldn't pay me to keep going in this Game.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    Brainy said:
    After reading this thread, I decided to go ahead and put my .99 cents to see what this game has to offer.

    So it started off great with the character creator.  Then it went down hill from there.

    This is why I hate playing games years after release.  Game seems to be on EZ mode leveling now.  I got to level 25 in a couple of hours max.  The quests hold your hand completely, talk to some guy read a bunch of nonsense get a level, take 5 steps talk to someone else bam get a level.  Kill some mob get a level, use an AOE attack, another level.  I am not even playing a season char, cant imagine if I was getting 30% more xp or whatever it is.

    I am guessing you actually get to do some combat at some point, as people saying this game is grindy.  But I didn't see it.  Was so boring doing these nonsense quests trying to figure out an unintuitive UI.

    My biggest gripe is how all the quests are pushing you to the Cash shop.  Its almost like they put the Main quest in place to show all the cash shop items.

    After I reached 25 I decided to take a break from EZ mode quests and try some Life skills.  I ran out of inventory pretty quick, and couldn't figure out how to get all the ingredients to make potions, so without inventory space, it seemed pointless.

    Only positive other than character creator was at least this game doesn't give mass amount of trash loot.

    Maybe this game get amazing at end game who knows, but from what I seen so far, its trash.  Hard to believe I didn't feel like I got my moneys worth.  LOL .99, its not the money, I lost 6 hrs. of time I will never get back.  You couldn't pay me to keep going in this Game.


    See, it's never really about the money spent, for many free time is nearly invaluable, so wasting any of it on games not worth the time is almost unthinkable regardless what they cost.

    Good write up BTW, thanks for sharing.

    I had a similar experience back at launch, just didn't catch my interest during a one week free trial someone shared with me.




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  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,331
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.

    Ofc It's get boring with the grind if all you do is killing mobs, any MMO would be boring if you only killing mobs in every gaming session.
    If grinding gets to you then just stop, do trading, crafting, sail some, do quests, play the mini games ect.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    I was going to post but Picards summed it up.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    I really need to get my lol count up, so just gonna post again. ;)
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    I had loads of fun in BDO because I never levelled beyond the level where you get PvPed. 

    I grew crops and traded, fished and opened new nodes. That game has loads to do aside from from combat and progression in terms of level and the world is truly beautiful. I loved my time in the game and unlike Archeage I could leave for days and not worry that my plants and animals would die.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,427
    cheyane said:
    I had loads of fun in BDO because I never levelled beyond the level where you get PvPed. 

    I grew crops and traded, fished and opened new nodes. That game has loads to do aside from from combat and progression in terms of level and the world is truly beautiful. I loved my time in the game and unlike Archeage I could leave for days and not worry that my plants and animals would die.
    That's how I played it but you seem to have done a lot more crafting than me. My favourite time was out with the guild singing whaling songs looking for some monster of a whale. Fun times for a guy who has gone on demonstrations with Green Peace. :)
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    edited July 2021
    Maurgrim said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    IT was fun for about a month....The grind after 58 is incredibly boring.

    Ofc It's get boring with the grind if all you do is killing mobs, any MMO would be boring if you only killing mobs in every gaming session.
    If grinding gets to you then just stop, do trading, crafting, sail some, do quests, play the mini games ect.

    I did fishing for a bit...Explored for a bit...Sent some caravans for a bit...none of it grabbed me.....The selling point of this game was the graphics and that was about it....it appealed to those that hate the old school graphics....To me, it was like the pretty girl that has zero personality or charm.
    AlBQuirky
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,583
    edited July 2021
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    I think 99 cents a reasonable amount to risk on forming your own impressions of the game. So, why don't you splurge and find out for yourself?

    It's b2p. Subscription is available but optional.
    AlBQuirky
  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,206

    If you want to avoid most of the negatives of this game, don't play past level 49. Just never do the quest to get to 50. You'll avoid PvP entirely, and therefore the cash shop driven gear inflation and the bad part of the community too.


    Just curious here, but what am I missing.  Is it because I'm playing the remastered version.  Is that a different version then you are playing?

    Level 25 in 2 hours not even rushing either.  Going by how much UI they still had to go in tutorial main quest, I am sure  I was less than half way, I just got a free pet, so another few hours of questing I am level 40?  Where is the fun you are talking about level 40-50?

    Seems I am missing something here.  I have like 40 skill points before even figuring how where to put them.

    Is it possible you are just having nostalgia for what the game used to be, and not what it is now?  Specifically referencing 1-50.


  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,583
    tzervo said:
    AlBQuirky said:
    I saw this on Steam yesterday. Is it worth it at 99 cents?

    What are people's thoughts on it. I've never tried it, but haves heard many varied thoughts on it :)

    I think 99 cents a reasonable amount to risk on forming your own impressions of the game. So, why don't you splurge and find out for yourself?

    It's b2p. Subscription is available but optional.
    Take away the cost, and the problem that remains is time. Too many games, too little time to try them all. It makes sense doing some research before jumping in.

    I had assumed the initial interest already established, though it never hurts to research. Ultimately one must personally spend the time regardless to know if a game suits.
    AlBQuirky
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