They've states that they launched Dregs first to ensure server stability and see how they handle the load of GvG fights, which will be nothing compared to FvF fights, its logical and has led to relatively stable servers beyond the initial launch day troubles.
Next up to launch is definitely a Faction V Faction, but I dont expect to see it till after Dregs campaign ends, because they dont want to split the player base, especially when they did no marketing for their soft launch. Once FvF and GvG have both shown to be stable and good to go, we will see a marketing push and attempt to reach a larger playerbase.
As for servers, they arnt region locked, and people hop from server to server to server, to avoid groups of people and to find unoccupied farming areas. Them spinning down servers is smart if they dont need those servers, and also helps to condense the population together so conflict and interaction happens.
New World Beta starts Tuesday, my whole guild is heading over. When that ends, CF has a chance to attract us back if their is an actual Faction server, but if not, that may be the last chance.
I am sure your 9 person guild will be the keynote that the whole game sits upon.
Bye.. feel free to slam the door on the way out.
Dude. I have played the game 10 times more than you have and accomplished 10 times as much. If you think we are an isolated case you are far from reality. They literally collapsed one of the 2 West Coast servers already. The forums are littered with people asking for the Faction servers. Not just small guilds, but some Investors and folks there since day 1.
I am in a guild of 483 members (We lost a few), trust me, we have been outpacing anything and everything you and your 9 person guild could ever hope to accomplish even if you have outpaced me personally, which is not hard, given I have not made it any secret that my system can't really handle Crowfall, so, I am waiting for payday to buy more memory and a better graphics card to actually start playing.
With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect and why you are utterly and totally wrong.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
There is literally no place for players to go after finishing the Tutorial except for the GvG zerg server. That's simply not acceptable when they sold other play styles as being supported FROM DAY ONE.
Plus they also LITERALLY autostarted everyone's subscription so that people can't even pause and wait for what they want.
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Looks like they put West 2 back up. Yay! Looks like they once again shut down the sources used for tracking population via the Malekai bot and crowfallstatus.com Not so yay!
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With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect and why you are utterly and totally wrong.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
You are absolutely right, it is shitty.
Welcome to life, it's kinda shitty sometimes.
When GW2 added raids, that went against everything their original premise and core game was about, and I was told "tough shit, if you don't like it, leave"
Now, am I bitter asshole about it? The kind of asshole that is keeping tabs on their income and player numbers, watching and waiting for them to slowly die because of their stupidity.. yes.. yes I am, and given you obsessions with Crowfall, you are being the same way about this game, just far more impatient and bombastic than I am.
But regardless of that, that does not change how the world works.
Sometimes, you just don't get what you want, and sometimes, you are told to fuck off and deal.
Now if they put in that precious faction vs faction game mode or whatever that so many people want, great. If they don't, oh fucking well.
But they have already decided what they are going to do with what they have, in the order that they plan to do it in, and if that is something you cannot get over or handle.. again.. feel free to exit stage left, run off to New World, and you are more then welcome and encouraged to flip the bird on the way out, I will understand.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect and why you are utterly and totally wrong.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
You are absolutely right, it is shitty.
Welcome to life, it's kinda shitty sometimes.
When GW2 added raids, that went against everything their original premise and core game was about, and I was told "tough shit, if you don't like it, leave"
Now, am I bitter asshole about it? The kind of asshole that is keeping tabs on their income and player numbers, watching and waiting for them to slowly die because of their stupidity.. yes.. yes I am, and given you obsessions with Crowfall, you are being the same way about this game, just far more impatient and bombastic than I am.
But regardless of that, that does not change how the world works.
Sometimes, you just don't get what you want, and sometimes, you are told to fuck off and deal.
Now if they put in that precious faction vs faction game mode or whatever that so many people want, great. If they don't, oh fucking well.
But they have already decided what they are going to do with what they have, in the order that they plan to do it in, and if that is something you cannot get over or handle.. again.. feel free to exit stage left, run off to New World, and you are more then welcome and encouraged to flip the bird on the way out, I will understand.
See, now that was a much more reasoned response than your previous: "With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. "
But it's not simply "Oh well" when a company doesn't do what they say they will do AND auto-starts your subscription and forces you to be subbed. Maybe you just take what people shovel your way. Sorry, never has been and never will be my way. So next time, maybe don't try and belittle people that have legit complaints. It's not like I or anyone I know is calling for the Dregs to be changed to suit US. We are simply asking for the game to deliver the modes that WE bought and that WE are being charged a sub for right now with no ability to pause it. That is not crying. At all.
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With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect and why you are utterly and totally wrong.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
You are absolutely right, it is shitty.
Welcome to life, it's kinda shitty sometimes.
When GW2 added raids, that went against everything their original premise and core game was about, and I was told "tough shit, if you don't like it, leave"
Now, am I bitter asshole about it? The kind of asshole that is keeping tabs on their income and player numbers, watching and waiting for them to slowly die because of their stupidity.. yes.. yes I am, and given you obsessions with Crowfall, you are being the same way about this game, just far more impatient and bombastic than I am.
But regardless of that, that does not change how the world works.
Sometimes, you just don't get what you want, and sometimes, you are told to fuck off and deal.
Now if they put in that precious faction vs faction game mode or whatever that so many people want, great. If they don't, oh fucking well.
But they have already decided what they are going to do with what they have, in the order that they plan to do it in, and if that is something you cannot get over or handle.. again.. feel free to exit stage left, run off to New World, and you are more then welcome and encouraged to flip the bird on the way out, I will understand.
See, now that was a much more reasoned response than your previous: "With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. "
But it's not simply "Oh well" when a company doesn't do what they say they will do AND auto-starts your subscription and forces you to be subbed. Maybe you just take what people shovel your way. Sorry, never has been and never will be my way. So next time, maybe don't try and belittle people that have legit complaints. It's not like I or anyone I know is calling for the Dregs to be changed to suit US. We are simply asking for the game to deliver the modes that WE bought and that WE are being charged a sub for right now with no ability to pause it. That is not crying. At all.
Having your sub start when the game launched or when you paid it, is to be expected, and the way games work. There is no a single game I know of, where you pay the sub and then have to tell it to start, or are even able to pause it, When you pay, is when it starts, and it will end at the specified time. I have heard of people canceling their subs ahead of time, but that is not the same as pausing.
That is something that everyone who has ever paid a sub should know. That is just how things work, so.. yah.. that totally would be crying balls.
Now with that said, they may have said that they plan to put in some features, but like many games, what they plan and what they provide are not always the same thing, sometimes shit happens, in fact, with a lot of games, that happens. Hell in GW2, an established game for years with a very dependable company that knows how to make expansions, given GW1 was full of them, their HOT Expansion, they promised a new set of legendary weapons, that they didn't get put in till their POF Expansion a year later, and still had some weapons in the works for over a year after that.
In fact, a lot of companies do not give everything at launch day, hell even WoW, breaks up it's expansion content into time gated parts.
So maybe it will happen, next Month, might be three months, might be next week, they might be working on it™, or it could be coming Soon™. if you know what I mean.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
See, this is the fundamental disconnect and why you are utterly and totally wrong.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
You are absolutely right, it is shitty.
Welcome to life, it's kinda shitty sometimes.
When GW2 added raids, that went against everything their original premise and core game was about, and I was told "tough shit, if you don't like it, leave"
Now, am I bitter asshole about it? The kind of asshole that is keeping tabs on their income and player numbers, watching and waiting for them to slowly die because of their stupidity.. yes.. yes I am, and given you obsessions with Crowfall, you are being the same way about this game, just far more impatient and bombastic than I am.
But regardless of that, that does not change how the world works.
Sometimes, you just don't get what you want, and sometimes, you are told to fuck off and deal.
Now if they put in that precious faction vs faction game mode or whatever that so many people want, great. If they don't, oh fucking well.
But they have already decided what they are going to do with what they have, in the order that they plan to do it in, and if that is something you cannot get over or handle.. again.. feel free to exit stage left, run off to New World, and you are more then welcome and encouraged to flip the bird on the way out, I will understand.
See, now that was a much more reasoned response than your previous: "With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. "
But it's not simply "Oh well" when a company doesn't do what they say they will do AND auto-starts your subscription and forces you to be subbed. Maybe you just take what people shovel your way. Sorry, never has been and never will be my way. So next time, maybe don't try and belittle people that have legit complaints. It's not like I or anyone I know is calling for the Dregs to be changed to suit US. We are simply asking for the game to deliver the modes that WE bought and that WE are being charged a sub for right now with no ability to pause it. That is not crying. At all.
Having your sub start when the game launched or when you paid it, is to be expected, and the way games work. There is no a single game I know of, where you pay the sub and then have to tell it to start, or are even able to pause it, When you pay, is when it starts, and it will end at the specified time. I have heard of people canceling their subs ahead of time, but that is not the same as pausing.
That is something that everyone who has ever paid a sub should know. That is just how things work, so.. yah.. that totally would be crying balls.
Now with that said, they may have said that they plan to put in some features, but like many games, what they plan and what they provide are not always the same thing, sometimes shit happens, in fact, with a lot of games, that happens. Hell in GW2, an established game for years with a very dependable company that knows how to make expansions, given GW1 was full of them, their HOT Expansion, they promised a new set of legendary weapons, that they didn't get put in till their POF Expansion a year later, and still had some weapons in the works for over a year after that.
In fact, a lot of companies do not give everything at launch day, hell even WoW, breaks up it's expansion content into time gated parts.
So maybe it will happen, next Month, might be three months, might be next week, they might be working on it™, or it could be coming Soon™. if you know what I mean.
It's always 2 steps forward 1.5 back with you. Look at it THIS way. Suppose the game did NOT launch with The Dregs GvG zerg server that your guild planned for, bought the game for, and is playing. Suppose they launched with just a FvFvF server and limited guild sizes to 50. Maybe sometime later, in a few months... year... they might increase the guild size and add in some GvG servers. All that time your sub time that came from the Kickstarter 7 years ago (based on having larger guilds and GvG servers) was just going to tick off until it was all gone.
If you pointed that out, it would be a legitimate complaint, not "crying balls" but of course you know that but just to try and spite me you are going to make silly comments like that. .
It's OK. It's kind of expected at this point.
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It's always 2 steps forward 1.5 back with you. Look at it THIS way. Suppose the game did NOT launch with The Dregs GvG zerg server that your guild planned for, bought the game for, and is playing. Suppose they launched with just a FvFvF server and limited guild sizes to 50. Maybe sometime later, in a few months... year... they might increase the guild size and add in some GvG servers. All that time your sub time that came from the Kickstarter 7 years ago (based on having larger guilds and GvG servers) was just going to tick off until it was all gone.
If you pointed that out, it would be a legitimate complaint, not "crying balls" but of course you know that but just to try and spite me you are going to make silly comments like that. .
It's OK. It's kind of expected at this point.
Of course it would be crying balls.
What you are doing would be like someone trying to tell me that they refuse to accept that HoT launched because the Legendary Weapons were not done.. Like are you for real?
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
It's always 2 steps forward 1.5 back with you. Look at it THIS way. Suppose the game did NOT launch with The Dregs GvG zerg server that your guild planned for, bought the game for, and is playing. Suppose they launched with just a FvFvF server and limited guild sizes to 50. Maybe sometime later, in a few months... year... they might increase the guild size and add in some GvG servers. All that time your sub time that came from the Kickstarter 7 years ago (based on having larger guilds and GvG servers) was just going to tick off until it was all gone.
If you pointed that out, it would be a legitimate complaint, not "crying balls" but of course you know that but just to try and spite me you are going to make silly comments like that. .
It's OK. It's kind of expected at this point.
Of course it would be crying balls.
What you are doing would be like someone trying to tell me that they refuse to accept that HoT launched because the Legendary Weapons were not done.. Like are you for real?
That's not even a slightly close analogy. And that's also a bullshit response. But I expect no less at this point. Enough back and forth, the rest of the folks can easily read.
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I would play FvF, I will not play GvG as long as it isn't fair as GW1 GvG. No interest by getting ganked by either a Zerg guild with 100+ people online 24/7 or a no-lifer pro player guild all maxed with fotm perfect group combination and all maxed characters/gear.
I bet there are many people who would play FvF but not GvG and therefore would not split the playerbase but rather add revenue. E.g. people unhappy with ESO RvR, people unhappy with GW2 WvW, people waiting for CU,....
I would play FvF, I will not play GvG as long as it isn't fair as GW1 GvG. No interest by getting ganked by either a Zerg guild with 100+ people online 24/7 or a no-lifer pro player guild all maxed with fotm perfect group combination and all maxed characters/gear.
I bet there are many people who would play FvF but not GvG and therefore would not split the playerbase but rather add revenue. E.g. people unhappy with ESO RvR, people unhappy with GW2 WvW, people waiting for CU,....
How would the FvF in CU be different than the WvW in GW2?
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
It's always 2 steps forward 1.5 back with you. Look at it THIS way. Suppose the game did NOT launch with The Dregs GvG zerg server that your guild planned for, bought the game for, and is playing. Suppose they launched with just a FvFvF server and limited guild sizes to 50. Maybe sometime later, in a few months... year... they might increase the guild size and add in some GvG servers. All that time your sub time that came from the Kickstarter 7 years ago (based on having larger guilds and GvG servers) was just going to tick off until it was all gone.
If you pointed that out, it would be a legitimate complaint, not "crying balls" but of course you know that but just to try and spite me you are going to make silly comments like that. .
It's OK. It's kind of expected at this point.
Of course it would be crying balls.
What you are doing would be like someone trying to tell me that they refuse to accept that HoT launched because the Legendary Weapons were not done.. Like are you for real?
That's not even a slightly close analogy. And that's also a bullshit response. But I expect no less at this point. Enough back and forth, the rest of the folks can easily read.
They can.
Everyone can read this between us.
Here is the take down, If you don't like the situation, we all get being upset, but if you are going to threaten to run off to another game, in this case, New World, if you don't get your way.. please leave now and be done with it.
Feel free to Slam the door and flip the bird on the way out while you are at it.. maybe scream "You will never get another cent from me ever again" if you think it will make you happy.
But at the end of the day you have two choices, they both involve you sucking it up and dealing with the situation, but your choices are "Keep Playing with what is" or "move on to another game you think will be better"
Ever wonder why games spike and then drop so often.. too many people butthurt about the game they are playing for one stupid reason or another and crying that it sucks, jumping to the new shiny with delusions that it will be their everything kill the game they are currently mad at, realizing that new game sucks too, but they since they have 10K hours in their old game, they crawl back to it.
Only the people that liked the new game for what it is.. stay around and play it.. the people looking for what amounts to a Rebound game, will never be happy.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
No. The difference is that YOU believe that regardless of what a company sells you, the customer should just take what they give (even if when you bought is missing) shut up and move along. You see valid complaints as butthurt whining and crying/ That's great. You do you.
For me, if a company sells me something, and doesn't deliver I am going to point it out and complain. And if they are going to continue to burn up my subscription while they haven't delivered what they sold, then I'm going to keep pointing that out even louder.
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No. The difference is that YOU believe that regardless of what a company sells you, the customer should just take what they give (even if when you bought is missing) shut up and move along. You see valid complaints as butthurt whining and crying/ That's great. You do you.
For me, if a company sells me something, and doesn't deliver I am going to point it out and complain. And if they are going to continue to burn up my subscription while they haven't delivered what they sold, then I'm going to keep pointing that out even louder.
Cry me a river.
You know what I got for voicing my objection to Raids on the GW2 forums, saying that went against the very core design of the game, all the fanboi's of the raids spam reported me and I got banned.
Lineally, my E-mail said we received too many reports against your account and are banning you. Not that I did anything wrong exactly, I even had a chance to talk with Gale Gray and she even admitted that it was not fair, but it was policy none the less.
Now, If you think your crying about it is justified, fine, keep crying, but don't kid yourself on what you are doing, they have your money, and they have officially launched, they owe you jack diddly shit, and it's about high time you wake up to that.
You want to make a point, go play New World and spend your money there, and keep calling Crowfall a shit sammiach, not some thinly veiled bullshit like "if they meet my demands I might come back"
That's just some bullshit, have some fucking balls, flip them the bird, say they fucked you over, and that you hope they die in a fire., If that is how you feel.
If you earnestly feel that you have some bargaining chip to keep your patronage, you are sadly mistaken.
If you are going to cry "I will go off to New World if you don't meet my demand" just fucking go to New World and be done with it.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
CF is a great modern example showing how fragile gamers have become.. I witness it everyday... Many people are completely unable to handle/deal with ANY kind of loss AND refuse to ever admit they made a mistake... I'm beginning to wonder if they even know how to recognize their mistakes...
FvF that people complain about CF not having would've made people quit in droves because it is regulated tribal warfare... Any and all complaints would've been slung at ACE 10x more than what's being thrown at them now for player related issues not dev related issues.
Currently when you go out and get ganked/zerged the decision to go out into a questionable situation/danger zone was made by the individual or group/guild and if you get destroyed you just weren't prepared enough or your opponent planned better.
Let me know when they send you that gilded embossed apology letter.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
They've states that they launched Dregs first to ensure server stability and see how they handle the load of GvG fights, which will be nothing compared to FvF fights, its logical and has led to relatively stable servers beyond the initial launch day troubles.
Next up to launch is definitely a Faction V Faction, but I dont expect to see it till after Dregs campaign ends, because they dont want to split the player base, especially when they did no marketing for their soft launch. Once FvF and GvG have both shown to be stable and good to go, we will see a marketing push and attempt to reach a larger playerbase.
As for servers, they arnt region locked, and people hop from server to server to server, to avoid groups of people and to find unoccupied farming areas. Them spinning down servers is smart if they dont need those servers, and also helps to condense the population together so conflict and interaction happens.
Thank you for this information, it all makes perfect sense. FvF before the optimization of large fights that even GvG can't handle would be silly.
In fact, the fact that so many people are clamouring FvF reinforces this point. If thousands of players piled into that one battle, the game can't handle it. They need to optimize for the smaller battles with hundreds of players first, which is what GvG is perfect for.
It looks like it was only recently they've really had a go at optimization for scale, as that was the big feedback from the most recent open beta. Optimization was better for launch, but still struggling at the GvG scale of hundreds. So they will optimize on that, and they seem to be doing optimization patches every other day.
Looking forward to the content/balance patch that is to come out on the test server soon as well, which might also bundle a bunch more optimization and fixes to concerns the players currently have. It's a good move to delay FvF despite all the complaints.
They've states that they launched Dregs first to ensure server stability and see how they handle the load of GvG fights, which will be nothing compared to FvF fights, its logical and has led to relatively stable servers beyond the initial launch day troubles.
Next up to launch is definitely a Faction V Faction, but I dont expect to see it till after Dregs campaign ends, because they dont want to split the player base, especially when they did no marketing for their soft launch. Once FvF and GvG have both shown to be stable and good to go, we will see a marketing push and attempt to reach a larger playerbase.
As for servers, they arnt region locked, and people hop from server to server to server, to avoid groups of people and to find unoccupied farming areas. Them spinning down servers is smart if they dont need those servers, and also helps to condense the population together so conflict and interaction happens.
Thank you for this information, it all makes perfect sense. FvF before the optimization of large fights that even GvG can't handle would be silly.
In fact, the fact that so many people are clamouring FvF reinforces this point. If thousands of players piled into that one battle, the game can't handle it. They need to optimize for the smaller battles with hundreds of players first, which is what GvG is perfect for.
It looks like it was only recently they've really had a go at optimization for scale, as that was the big feedback from the most recent open beta. Optimization was better for launch, but still struggling at the GvG scale of hundreds. So they will optimize on that, and they seem to be doing optimization patches every other day.
Looking forward to the content/balance patch that is to come out on the test server soon as well, which might also bundle a bunch more optimization and fixes to concerns the players currently have. It's a good move to delay FvF despite all the complaints.
Of course, when you posted this on the forums trying to make a case it was explained properly to you:
"The reason FvF isn't ready is despite allusions (but not confirmations) to the contrary by the dev team in the past, Faction campaigns (As in campaigns, with actual campaign reward systems and a team balancing answer to prevent the bandwagoning of the alpha faction campaigns) simply have received little or possibly no design or engineering work since dregs was initially implemented. The entire community gave pointed feedback when the launch date was released that is was imperative that FvF was a launch feature, including the guilds currently having a grand old time winning dregs. This was around the time mentioning the words "faction campaigns" became tantamount to hitting the mute button on any developer stream.
The reason you don't have faction campaigns is not technical limitations, and it is not population. It is because they just plain didn't think it was important enough to finish before releasing the game, realized the mistake, and put it on the "short term" roadmap. It is now being developed because it has seen no actual development past what you see in sky point as all development has gone to dregs and the tutorial."
So now magically they will test faction server in the next test patch, but it's too late... Now it will open and nobody will join because they are in New World.
It's a totally missed opportunity.
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Looks like Artcraft didn't appreciate your thread and deleted it or at least hid it...
Or maybe they just got rid of that mess of a response, which sounded more like someone speaking out their ass then actually knew what they were talking about.
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Looks like Artcraft didn't appreciate your thread and deleted it or at least hid it...
Or maybe they just got rid of that mess of a response, which sounded more like someone speaking out their ass then actually knew what they were talking about.
That would actually have been the OP. As was proven by the FACT that they are going to put up Factions on test. I mean, you don't even play the game any more and when you did you never even got past the tutorial...
If they drop Factions on Live between end of NW Beta and launch I will pop in and check it out.
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Looks like Artcraft didn't appreciate your thread and deleted it or at least hid it...
Or maybe they just got rid of that mess of a response, which sounded more like someone speaking out their ass then actually knew what they were talking about.
That would actually have been the OP. As was proven by the FACT that they are going to put up Factions on test. I mean, you don't even play the game any more and when you did you never even got past the tutorial...
What is this Lies and Slander you say about my not playing the game anymore.
So typical of you to speak endlessly out of your ass and lie about others.. as always.
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Next up to launch is definitely a Faction V Faction, but I dont expect to see it till after Dregs campaign ends, because they dont want to split the player base, especially when they did no marketing for their soft launch. Once FvF and GvG have both shown to be stable and good to go, we will see a marketing push and attempt to reach a larger playerbase.
As for servers, they arnt region locked, and people hop from server to server to server, to avoid groups of people and to find unoccupied farming areas. Them spinning down servers is smart if they dont need those servers, and also helps to condense the population together so conflict and interaction happens.
Mess with the best, Die like the rest
With that said, for everyone that cries "Waaa waaa waaa if I don't get my way I'm gonna leave" and I'll be damned if every single fucking time.. I am overjoyed to see those people leave.
Even when I am one of them myself.. I am overjoyed to walk out the door.
So again.. feel free to slam the door on the way out, and not come back.
The company literally told us we would be able to play on Faction vs Faction vs Faction servers. They also said there would be other Godwar servers with 5-12 way factions.
The game is now released.
Those server types do not exist.
Expressing disappointment in that is not crying "Waaa waaa waaa" and it's actually kind of sad that you see it that way.
You joined a zerg guild. You got and are playing (I assume.. with you who knows) on the server type that you wanted. It's pretty shitty to turn up your nose and basically say "tough luck" to the huge numbers of people who didn't want to play on a Dregs server and left or are leaving.
There is literally no place for players to go after finishing the Tutorial except for the GvG zerg server. That's simply not acceptable when they sold other play styles as being supported FROM DAY ONE.
Plus they also LITERALLY autostarted everyone's subscription so that people can't even pause and wait for what they want.
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Looks like they once again shut down the sources used for tracking population via the Malekai bot and crowfallstatus.com Not so yay!
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Welcome to life, it's kinda shitty sometimes.
When GW2 added raids, that went against everything their original premise and core game was about, and I was told "tough shit, if you don't like it, leave"
Now, am I bitter asshole about it? The kind of asshole that is keeping tabs on their income and player numbers, watching and waiting for them to slowly die because of their stupidity.. yes.. yes I am, and given you obsessions with Crowfall, you are being the same way about this game, just far more impatient and bombastic than I am.
But regardless of that, that does not change how the world works.
Sometimes, you just don't get what you want, and sometimes, you are told to fuck off and deal.
Now if they put in that precious faction vs faction game mode or whatever that so many people want, great. If they don't, oh fucking well.
But they have already decided what they are going to do with what they have, in the order that they plan to do it in, and if that is something you cannot get over or handle.. again.. feel free to exit stage left, run off to New World, and you are more then welcome and encouraged to flip the bird on the way out, I will understand.
But it's not simply "Oh well" when a company doesn't do what they say they will do AND auto-starts your subscription and forces you to be subbed. Maybe you just take what people shovel your way. Sorry, never has been and never will be my way. So next time, maybe don't try and belittle people that have legit complaints. It's not like I or anyone I know is calling for the Dregs to be changed to suit US. We are simply asking for the game to deliver the modes that WE bought and that WE are being charged a sub for right now with no ability to pause it. That is not crying. At all.
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That is something that everyone who has ever paid a sub should know. That is just how things work, so.. yah.. that totally would be crying balls.
Now with that said, they may have said that they plan to put in some features, but like many games, what they plan and what they provide are not always the same thing, sometimes shit happens, in fact, with a lot of games, that happens. Hell in GW2, an established game for years with a very dependable company that knows how to make expansions, given GW1 was full of them, their HOT Expansion, they promised a new set of legendary weapons, that they didn't get put in till their POF Expansion a year later, and still had some weapons in the works for over a year after that.
In fact, a lot of companies do not give everything at launch day, hell even WoW, breaks up it's expansion content into time gated parts.
So maybe it will happen, next Month, might be three months, might be next week, they might be working on it™, or it could be coming Soon™. if you know what I mean.
If you pointed that out, it would be a legitimate complaint, not "crying balls" but of course you know that but just to try and spite me you are going to make silly comments like that. .
It's OK. It's kind of expected at this point.
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What you are doing would be like someone trying to tell me that they refuse to accept that HoT launched because the Legendary Weapons were not done.. Like are you for real?
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No interest by getting ganked by either a Zerg guild with 100+ people online 24/7 or a no-lifer pro player guild all maxed with fotm perfect group combination and all maxed characters/gear.
I bet there are many people who would play FvF but not GvG and therefore would not split the playerbase but rather add revenue.
E.g. people unhappy with ESO RvR, people unhappy with GW2 WvW, people waiting for CU,....
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Everyone can read this between us.
Here is the take down, If you don't like the situation, we all get being upset, but if you are going to threaten to run off to another game, in this case, New World, if you don't get your way.. please leave now and be done with it.
Feel free to Slam the door and flip the bird on the way out while you are at it.. maybe scream "You will never get another cent from me ever again" if you think it will make you happy.
But at the end of the day you have two choices, they both involve you sucking it up and dealing with the situation, but your choices are "Keep Playing with what is" or "move on to another game you think will be better"
Ever wonder why games spike and then drop so often.. too many people butthurt about the game they are playing for one stupid reason or another and crying that it sucks, jumping to the new shiny with delusions that it will be their everything kill the game they are currently mad at, realizing that new game sucks too, but they since they have 10K hours in their old game, they crawl back to it.
Only the people that liked the new game for what it is.. stay around and play it.. the people looking for what amounts to a Rebound game, will never be happy.
For me, if a company sells me something, and doesn't deliver I am going to point it out and complain. And if they are going to continue to burn up my subscription while they haven't delivered what they sold, then I'm going to keep pointing that out even louder.
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You know what I got for voicing my objection to Raids on the GW2 forums, saying that went against the very core design of the game, all the fanboi's of the raids spam reported me and I got banned.
Lineally, my E-mail said we received too many reports against your account and are banning you. Not that I did anything wrong exactly, I even had a chance to talk with Gale Gray and she even admitted that it was not fair, but it was policy none the less.
Now, If you think your crying about it is justified, fine, keep crying, but don't kid yourself on what you are doing, they have your money, and they have officially launched, they owe you jack diddly shit, and it's about high time you wake up to that.
You want to make a point, go play New World and spend your money there, and keep calling Crowfall a shit sammiach, not some thinly veiled bullshit like "if they meet my demands I might come back"
That's just some bullshit, have some fucking balls, flip them the bird, say they fucked you over, and that you hope they die in a fire., If that is how you feel.
If you earnestly feel that you have some bargaining chip to keep your patronage, you are sadly mistaken.
If you are going to cry "I will go off to New World if you don't meet my demand" just fucking go to New World and be done with it.
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In fact, the fact that so many people are clamouring FvF reinforces this point. If thousands of players piled into that one battle, the game can't handle it. They need to optimize for the smaller battles with hundreds of players first, which is what GvG is perfect for.
It looks like it was only recently they've really had a go at optimization for scale, as that was the big feedback from the most recent open beta. Optimization was better for launch, but still struggling at the GvG scale of hundreds. So they will optimize on that, and they seem to be doing optimization patches every other day.
Looking forward to the content/balance patch that is to come out on the test server soon as well, which might also bundle a bunch more optimization and fixes to concerns the players currently have. It's a good move to delay FvF despite all the complaints.
"The reason FvF isn't ready is despite allusions (but not confirmations) to the contrary by the dev team in the past, Faction campaigns (As in campaigns, with actual campaign reward systems and a team balancing answer to prevent the bandwagoning of the alpha faction campaigns) simply have received little or possibly no design or engineering work since dregs was initially implemented. The entire community gave pointed feedback when the launch date was released that is was imperative that FvF was a launch feature, including the guilds currently having a grand old time winning dregs. This was around the time mentioning the words "faction campaigns" became tantamount to hitting the mute button on any developer stream.
The reason you don't have faction campaigns is not technical limitations, and it is not population. It is because they just plain didn't think it was important enough to finish before releasing the game, realized the mistake, and put it on the "short term" roadmap. It is now being developed because it has seen no actual development past what you see in sky point as all development has gone to dregs and the tutorial."
So now magically they will test faction server in the next test patch, but it's too late... Now it will open and nobody will join because they are in New World.
It's a totally missed opportunity.
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If they drop Factions on Live between end of NW Beta and launch I will pop in and check it out.
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So typical of you to speak endlessly out of your ass and lie about others.. as always.