If a large company like Activision/Blizzard loses money they aren't going to make their forcasted profits and laying people off is an option.
Hey let's not forget that this is the company that showed record profits 2 years in a row, gave their CEO obscene bonuses and did very significant lay-offs both of those years.
For Acti/Blizz great performance also means lay-offs.
Rational workforce management with lay-offs based on poor performance just isn't their MO.
I will instead not forget that such has happened many times over with other large companies and they continued to do well regardless of expressed distress.
If one were to boycott every company that had done something of the like there would be few options left to spend money on.
This alone is scant reason to do so.
Huh? You have me confused with someone talking about boycotts.
My point is simply that you can't go around saying bad year = lay-offs, good year = no lay-offs. That's not the way high tech sweatshops work. They want your loyalty and give none of theirs back.
Boycott or not is a whole different story and I'm not a boycotter. However I do reserve the right to call corporate scum the exploitative scumbags they are.
My mistake. I incorrectly applied sentiments expressed by others with an overly broad brush. Sorry about that.
Loyalty to the employer is an obligation. Loyalty to the employed is a reasonable expectation, but not to the extent of continued employment regardless of business circumstances.
It's not an equal relationship. Employees are an asset of the company, not the other way around. Should a company feel a smaller staff now ideal people will lose their jobs unless the business is run in an atypical manner.
Ideally they will help those now unemployed find another position, and otherwise soften the blow. However, short of contractual obligation this can't be assumed.
And am I the only one that didn't hate Diablo III? It isn't Diablo II but I thought it was decent enough.
Nope. You're not the only one and thousands still play it today, myself included.
IMO it was a mess at release with the RMT auction house and extreme rarity of good loot for that purpose but they more than redeemed themselves when they got rid of it and released the Reaper of Souls expansion that created the post level 70 end game loop which is what we play today.
It can be knocked for being simplistic compared to other ARPGs but to me games like PoE went way too far in the other direction.
I play it every league to get the free cosmetics. It's hands down my favorite combat in any ARPG, well at least in regards to the Demon Hunter. It's just so shallow. I wish they enabled offline mode and mod support after abandoning the second expansion. The game needs a completely revamped end game as well as itemization and that's what modders could have done.
I'm class agnostic. I play them all although for HC it's usually Wizard because I know that class best.
It is definitely simplistic but I'm OK with that. It's my beer and pretzels ARPG.
I generally watch vids and choose the class based on starter set and their best set power. DH and Barb are my gotos with Wizard a solid third. I can't play GC due to hitches and lag but if they had offline I would.
I was planning to play longer this season but got turned off by not finding a single ethereal for another class by almost paragon 1000. I used the puzzle ring method to get them for the other base classes but it's clear I'd need to buy the necro dlc in order to get the three needed for permanent xmogs.
Playing next season will be rough as ethereals really gave massive power creep to my DH
And am I the only one that didn't hate Diablo III? It isn't Diablo II but I thought it was decent enough.
Nope. You're not the only one and thousands still play it today, myself included.
IMO it was a mess at release with the RMT auction house and extreme rarity of good loot for that purpose but they more than redeemed themselves when they got rid of it and released the Reaper of Souls expansion that created the post level 70 end game loop which is what we play today.
It can be knocked for being simplistic compared to other ARPGs but to me games like PoE went way too far in the other direction.
I play it every league to get the free cosmetics. It's hands down my favorite combat in any ARPG, well at least in regards to the Demon Hunter. It's just so shallow. I wish they enabled offline mode and mod support after abandoning the second expansion. The game needs a completely revamped end game as well as itemization and that's what modders could have done.
I'm class agnostic. I play them all although for HC it's usually Wizard because I know that class best.
It is definitely simplistic but I'm OK with that. It's my beer and pretzels ARPG.
I generally watch vids and choose the class based on starter set and their best set power. DH and Barb are my gotos with Wizard a solid third. I can't play GC due to hitches and lag but if they had offline I would.
I was planning to play longer this season but got turned off by not finding a single ethereal for another class by almost paragon 1000. I used the puzzle ring method to get them for the other base classes but it's clear I'd need to buy the necro dlc in order to get the three needed for permanent xmogs.
Playing next season will be rough as ethereals really gave massive power creep to my DH
I've found tons of Ethereal but not any that help my LoD Twisters Wiz nor LoD WoL monk which are the two builds I'm playing. Just a lot of junk affixes.
One thing I learned though is that salvaging ethereals is kind of fun since you don't just get forgotten souls - you can get GR keys and other surprise random stuff from them
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If a large company like Activision/Blizzard loses money they aren't going to make their forcasted profits and laying people off is an option.
Hey let's not forget that this is the company that showed record profits 2 years in a row, gave their CEO obscene bonuses and did very significant lay-offs both of those years.
For Acti/Blizz great performance also means lay-offs.
Rational workforce management with lay-offs based on poor performance just isn't their MO.
Didn't they lay off staff they weren't using anymore?
IDK did they really? That was the PR spin. You can choose to believe it or not.
I won't do business with companies that hold a very different view of what is right or wrong. That said, a handful of people accused of being "bros" towards a handful of other people 10 years ago isn't enough to make me think the company as a whole holds a very different view of right and wrong today.
Now, if Acti/Blizz as a company was "found guilty" of whatever it is they are accused of and continued to have same abusive company wide attitude despite this, I would begin to question doing business with them.
As it stands, some people are accused of something that no one here knows how true the accusations are or even to what level of truth there is with the accusations. It was a decade ago and I think most of those people are gone now.
Everything else is just a big corp doing what big corps do which is treating the low level employees like numbers. A boycot isn't going to fix a century of business as usual.
Is it 9AM PST yet? And WTF is the only 3 days for closed beta crap. Let us play all week through the end of the open beta weekend.
I was trying not getting into the obvious issues around Blizz these days but it's not "a handful of people accused of being 'bros'."
In case you didn't know a employee commited suicide on a business trip due harassment. They had a suit called 'Cosby suit' where they hand a portrait of him, worshipping a rapist.
So... Please, be reasonable.
I don't think it should impact the work the third party company did on the remaster and this game is as much Blizzard as it's mine.
Which makes me think if any game they own now besides Overwatch and Heartstone can be called theirs.
I mean, every single one was made by a separated company/group and was bought during the development. And none of them work there anymore.
I think when people say "Blizzard is not what it was" they forget the Blizzard they love is not the logo on the cover. The Blizzard they love are the third party companies and developers who love their job and were in time tossed aside.
I don't think the issue is ever people having a civil conversation. I think it's when people can't have a civil conversation. I'm not invested enough in my opinion to actually fight over someone who is. The truth is, I don't know much about this whole thing and you seem perfectly capable of having an intelligent conversation.
I do know that what people do in a hotel room is none of my business, as disgusting as it was. Now, if that bled into the workplace and made it hostile environment for a group of employees then those people should be dealt with and the people who suffered should be heard.
I also know that me acting out in solidarity now, so far after the fact, will have no effect on the people who may be guilty of what they are accused of.
I also know that it makes no sense to have such a large gap between the closed beta and open beta and release date. Don't these people know I have nothing better to do right now?
And am I the only one that didn't hate Diablo III? It isn't Diablo II but I thought it was decent enough.
Yeah as you said you're not invested into this enough so you probably don't know that some of accused were only recently stood down after after all these allegations came into light. And these things did bleed into the workplace ofc as you said its all allegations and stuff but with all these coming to light and with a lot of staff doing a walk out as protest you would think maybe there is something.
Yeah as you said you're not invested into this enough so you probably don't know that some of accused were only recently stood down after after all these allegations came into light. And these things did bleed into the workplace ofc as you said its all allegations and stuff but with all these coming to light and with a lot of staff doing a walk out as protest you would think maybe there is something.
I've read that some, if not all, of the employees involved have left. I don't know how much I stock I put into the "employee walkouts". Our culture has become one of virtue signaling which, in my opinion, makes it more difficult to get a good read into things like this unless you're directly involved.
I only ask because as far as I know they don't use key codes for beta access and just do it instead with an activation in your Battlenet account and only if you've pre-purchased the game for the current beta. The one on August 20 is open to anyone with a battlenet account whether you have pre-purchased the game or not.
There have been some fake alpha and beta key scams making the rounds and about 6 months ago, before there were open betas available to all D2R pre-purchasers, Blizzard posted this:
If you are selected to participate, we will send you an email to let you know that your Blizzard account now has access to the Alpha or Beta. Our email will not include a code. All you need to do is log in to the Alpha or Beta client using the Blizzard account that was selected for access.
Note the "our email will not include a code" part. Be suspicious if you got something with a code.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I only ask because as far as I know they don't use key codes for beta access and just do it instead with an activation in your Battlenet account and only if you've pre-purchased the game for the current beta. The one on August 20 is open to anyone with a battlenet account whether you have pre-purchased the game or not.
There have been some fake alpha and beta key scams making the rounds and about 6 months ago, before there were open betas available to all D2R pre-purchasers, Blizzard posted this:
If you are selected to participate, we will send you an email to let you know that your Blizzard account now has access to the Alpha or Beta. Our email will not include a code. All you need to do is log in to the Alpha or Beta client using the Blizzard account that was selected for access.
Note the "our email will not include a code" part. Be suspicious if you got something with a code.
Watched a stream on twitch, got my battlenet linked on twitch. After a few hours (I watched some serie on tv) I got notified I got a key and claimed it and now I can play D2.
I only ask because as far as I know they don't use key codes for beta access and just do it instead with an activation in your Battlenet account and only if you've pre-purchased the game for the current beta. The one on August 20 is open to anyone with a battlenet account whether you have pre-purchased the game or not.
There have been some fake alpha and beta key scams making the rounds and about 6 months ago, before there were open betas available to all D2R pre-purchasers, Blizzard posted this:
If you are selected to participate, we will send you an email to let you know that your Blizzard account now has access to the Alpha or Beta. Our email will not include a code. All you need to do is log in to the Alpha or Beta client using the Blizzard account that was selected for access.
Note the "our email will not include a code" part. Be suspicious if you got something with a code.
Watched a stream on twitch, got my battlenet linked on twitch. After a few hours (I watched some serie on tv) I got notified I got a key and claimed it and now I can play D2.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I don’t see myself buying D2 again. Although I enjoyed it immensely at release there are just too many other products and activities competing for my time.
I’m holed up in Quesnel BC at the moment waiting on repairs for my truck Monday morning. Friday the 13th critted me with a leaky transmission cooling line
On my way to Tuktoyaktuk, where I plan to post from the top of the world, maybe play an mmo too. Gonna dip my foot in the Arctic Ocean anyways
They are giving away keys if you watch streams adverting them for a total of 2.5 hours. As long as the stream is playing you can mute it if that's not your thing. You also have to connect your twitch account first.
I decided to roll an amazon with my free key but was getting too much lag and disconnects.
I don’t see myself buying D2 again. Although I enjoyed it immensely at release there are just too many other products and activities competing for my time.
I’m holed up in Quesnel BC at the moment waiting on repairs for my truck Monday morning. Friday the 13th critted me with a leaky transmission cooling line
On my way to Tuktoyaktuk, where I plan to post from the top of the world, maybe play an mmo too. Gonna dip my foot in the Arctic Ocean anyways
I was intrigued and found this video about the place.
I don’t see myself buying D2 again. Although I enjoyed it immensely at release there are just too many other products and activities competing for my time.
I’m holed up in Quesnel BC at the moment waiting on repairs for my truck Monday morning. Friday the 13th critted me with a leaky transmission cooling line
On my way to Tuktoyaktuk, where I plan to post from the top of the world, maybe play an mmo too. Gonna dip my foot in the Arctic Ocean anyways
I was intrigued and found this video about the place.
In 2017 the first year round road was completed into Tuk.
My wife and I have planned 3 weeks for the 9000km + round trip.
Watched a stream on twitch, got my battlenet linked on twitch. After a few hours (I watched some serie on tv) I got notified I got a key and claimed it and now I can play D2.
I also just "watched" (while I was out shopping ) a stream for the required 2.5 hours.
Downloading now.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
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My mistake. I incorrectly applied sentiments expressed by others with an overly broad brush. Sorry about that.
Loyalty to the employer is an obligation. Loyalty to the employed is a reasonable expectation, but not to the extent of continued employment regardless of business circumstances.
It's not an equal relationship. Employees are an asset of the company, not the other way around. Should a company feel a smaller staff now ideal people will lose their jobs unless the business is run in an atypical manner.
Ideally they will help those now unemployed find another position, and otherwise soften the blow. However, short of contractual obligation this can't be assumed.
What else would you expect?
I was planning to play longer this season but got turned off by not finding a single ethereal for another class by almost paragon 1000. I used the puzzle ring method to get them for the other base classes but it's clear I'd need to buy the necro dlc in order to get the three needed for permanent xmogs.
Playing next season will be rough as ethereals really gave massive power creep to my DH
One thing I learned though is that salvaging ethereals is kind of fun since you don't just get forgotten souls - you can get GR keys and other surprise random stuff from them
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I'm guessing if people wait a bit they'll be able to buy it for less someday, and it's not like it's really anything new.
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Yeah as you said you're not invested into this enough so you probably don't know that some of accused were only recently stood down after after all these allegations came into light. And these things did bleed into the workplace ofc as you said its all allegations and stuff but with all these coming to light and with a lot of staff doing a walk out as protest you would think maybe there is something.
That doesn't indicate you thinking it's mediocre when you say everything is better.
I've read that some, if not all, of the employees involved have left. I don't know how much I stock I put into the "employee walkouts". Our culture has become one of virtue signaling which, in my opinion, makes it more difficult to get a good read into things like this unless you're directly involved.
As long as they don't make it online-only, then it will be worth it, but if you need an internet connection just to play single player ... fuck no.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d3/t/what-the-mod-scene-may-look-like-in-d2r-not-looking-good/38700
I only ask because as far as I know they don't use key codes for beta access and just do it instead with an activation in your Battlenet account and only if you've pre-purchased the game for the current beta. The one on August 20 is open to anyone with a battlenet account whether you have pre-purchased the game or not.
There have been some fake alpha and beta key scams making the rounds and about 6 months ago, before there were open betas available to all D2R pre-purchasers, Blizzard posted this:
Note the "our email will not include a code" part. Be suspicious if you got something with a code.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Edit: worded beta key wrong. better said; got beta acces.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
거북이는 목을 내밀 때 안 움직입니다
I’m holed up in Quesnel BC at the moment waiting on repairs for my truck Monday morning. Friday the 13th critted me with a leaky transmission cooling line
On my way to Tuktoyaktuk, where I plan to post from the top of the world, maybe play an mmo too. Gonna dip my foot in the Arctic Ocean anyways
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
I decided to roll an amazon with my free key but was getting too much lag and disconnects.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
dam you are in for a treat then ..
but wait ................... LoL ?
Downloading now.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED