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New World Devs: 'We Were Wrong' Concerning Controversial Endgame Gear Changes | MMORPG.com

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Brainy said:
    How does a company with this many devs that made this much money have so much trouble making a competent decision. They have invested countless hours with this change then reverse it after making it public. Who are they listening to that is so clueless that puts them into this position in the first place.
    I wonder this myself.

    I know this kind of shit would not fly in Construction.
    Brainy
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429

    faci20 said:

    Have around 600 hours into NW now. I log in daily and play several hours a day and have a great time. Very excited for the upcoming winter event, it sounds really fun. Playing on a high population server definitely helps. They really need to get the merges done ASAP, but they also need to make sure they can do those smoothly without issues, which is a big if based on their short history. Alot of servers have peak populations of 100 players or less.



    On another note, I don't know that I've ever seen another MMO where people actively want it to fail, and go out of there way to discredit anyone who actually voices something positive about the game or says they enjoy it. It's almost comical at this point. I'll just keep on enjoying the game though.



    Having been here for far too long I can say that the cheerleading versus the 'send for the undertaker' posts have been with us for a very long time. Last time this happened was FO76, not that long ago.

    On what you have said the longer they take the smoother the mergers will go, that's why ASAP is not a good idea. That's true for sorting bugs, transfers and so on, too soon just means more issues. It is good to hear from players having a good time, I feel myself the game is being unduly punished; but then it was unduly praised at launch. We live in a media age where drama and narrative are rather skewing reality...Its the best thing since sliced bread...its the worst thing since gaming began. NW will get past the drama you can count on that.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    faci20 said:
    ...snip...

    On another note, I don't know that I've ever seen another MMO where people actively want it to fail, and go out of there way to discredit anyone who actually voices something positive about the game or says they enjoy it. It's almost comical at this point. I'll just keep on enjoying the game though.

    You have never read a Star Citizen thread then!

    :D

    Scot

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    Golelorn said:
    "Game isn't dying"

    That's why I haven't been motivated to play since day 5. Doubt I am alone. This game made me cancel Lost Ark. I will never trust another Amazon game.
    Lost Ark is a Korean game. Amazon is only responsible for bringing it to the west.

  • TacticalZombehTacticalZombeh Member UncommonPosts: 431
    Asm0deus said:
    faci20 said:
    ...snip...

    On another note, I don't know that I've ever seen another MMO where people actively want it to fail, and go out of there way to discredit anyone who actually voices something positive about the game or says they enjoy it. It's almost comical at this point. I'll just keep on enjoying the game though.

    You have never read a Star Citizen thread then!

    :D

    The ESO vs Wildstar threads were something to behold.
    Asm0deus
  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    I know it's popular to hate on, but I'm loving it so far.
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    Next one will be Nexon's Warhammer mmo (type) game they are making. That will be dumped on hard and people will forget about NW lol 
    Poor Warhammer.  Games Workshop and game development just don't mix well.  Aside from the Total War entries (which *are* absolutely incredible), they always seem to license games that are mediocre at best.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    kitarad said:
    Golelorn said:
    "Game isn't dying"

    That's why I haven't been motivated to play since day 5. Doubt I am alone. This game made me cancel Lost Ark. I will never trust another Amazon game.
    Lost Ark is a Korean game. Amazon is only responsible for bringing it to the west.
    That's not good, we will get haters because it is not a Western MMO and haters because it is AGS. :)
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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,208
    edited December 2021
    Mendel said:
    Okay.  So New World developers now admit that they made mistakes.  When will the repercussions for those mistakes occur?  Someone has to be responsible.  A high level 'We goofed' isn't taking responsibility, it's more an effort to detract people from the issues.

    When does AGS take action against their developers, and what form will that action take?


    Exactly no accountability, the gaming industry seems to continue to hire and promote the same morons that make every game before it bad. They never learn from mistakes, doing the same stupid things over and over again.  Even these AAA companies cant seem to get a competent team together.

    Its like they don't know how to hire and promote people that have successful ideas.  They surround themselves with people telling them what they want to hear, then wonder why they are releasing trash all the time.

    I blame the management, they make the hires, they control the team.  Its pretty obvious the management is clueless to what is needed for their customers.


    Mendel
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Brainy said:
    Mendel said:
    Okay.  So New World developers now admit that they made mistakes.  When will the repercussions for those mistakes occur?  Someone has to be responsible.  A high level 'We goofed' isn't taking responsibility, it's more an effort to detract people from the issues.

    When does AGS take action against their developers, and what form will that action take?


    Exactly no accountability, the gaming industry seems to continue to hire and promote the same morons that make every game before it bad. They never learn from mistakes, doing the same stupid things over and over again.  Even these AAA companies cant seem to get a competent team together.

    Its like they don't know how to hire and promote people that have successful ideas.  They surround themselves with people telling them what they want to hear, then wonder why they are releasing trash all the time.

    I blame the management, they make the hires, they control the team.  Its pretty obvious the management is clueless to what is needed for their customers.



    This has definitely shown the signs of inept management.  The only thing overwhelmingly positive about New World has been the graphics.  Even from a non-player's perspective, whoever hired the art team did a bang-up job.  The rest, not so much.



    Brainy

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • SKlTZOSKlTZO Member UncommonPosts: 14
    Mendel said:
    Brainy said:
    Mendel said:
    Okay.  So New World developers now admit that they made mistakes.  When will the repercussions for those mistakes occur?  Someone has to be responsible.  A high level 'We goofed' isn't taking responsibility, it's more an effort to detract people from the issues.

    When does AGS take action against their developers, and what form will that action take?


    Exactly no accountability, the gaming industry seems to continue to hire and promote the same morons that make every game before it bad. They never learn from mistakes, doing the same stupid things over and over again.  Even these AAA companies cant seem to get a competent team together.

    Its like they don't know how to hire and promote people that have successful ideas.  They surround themselves with people telling them what they want to hear, then wonder why they are releasing trash all the time.

    I blame the management, they make the hires, they control the team.  Its pretty obvious the management is clueless to what is needed for their customers.



    This has definitely shown the signs of inept management.  The only thing overwhelmingly positive about New World has been the graphics.  Even from a non-player's perspective, whoever hired the art team did a bang-up job.  The rest, not so much.



    The sound team did an amazing job.
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  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    edited December 2021
    Mendel said:
    Brainy said:
    Mendel said:
    Okay.  So New World developers now admit that they made mistakes.  When will the repercussions for those mistakes occur?  Someone has to be responsible.  A high level 'We goofed' isn't taking responsibility, it's more an effort to detract people from the issues.

    When does AGS take action against their developers, and what form will that action take?


    Exactly no accountability, the gaming industry seems to continue to hire and promote the same morons that make every game before it bad. They never learn from mistakes, doing the same stupid things over and over again.  Even these AAA companies cant seem to get a competent team together.

    Its like they don't know how to hire and promote people that have successful ideas.  They surround themselves with people telling them what they want to hear, then wonder why they are releasing trash all the time.

    I blame the management, they make the hires, they control the team.  Its pretty obvious the management is clueless to what is needed for their customers.



    This has definitely shown the signs of inept management.  The only thing overwhelmingly positive about New World has been the graphics.  Even from a non-player's perspective, whoever hired the art team did a bang-up job.  The rest, not so much.



    Some of it can be accepted as launch surprises and the studio's first foray into a complex genre.

    Others, like the team not even being on the same page with whether or not bots were being used to issue bans and asking players to publicly post the exact steps needed to recreate glitches and bugs (i.e. the gold duplication and window drag invincibility), point to a team that may not have the right people in key positions.
  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Next one will be Nexon's Warhammer mmo (type) game they are making. That will be dumped on hard and people will forget about NW lol 
    Poor Warhammer.  Games Workshop and game development just don't mix well.  Aside from the Total War entries (which *are* absolutely incredible), they always seem to license games that are mediocre at best.
    I think the true problem is that games workshop will give their IP to just about anyone with a bit of coin.  I think they would do themselves well to look at who and what is being made before taking the 13 pieces of silver.

    TheDalaiBomba
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  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    lahnmir said:
    Golelorn said:
    lahnmir said:
    Ten weeks. That is how long New World has been out, ten weeks. Post after post of 'too late,' 'already lost me,' 'doom and gloom.' Ten weeks. I wonder how any of these people lived through the old days of MMORPGs, they probably didn't.

    Vanguard took 2 years before it ran even remotely decent on any rig. ultima Online and Anarchy Online had disastrous launches that took more then 6 months to fix even slightly. Even the infamous lootbug in WoW took well over a year to fix. I am trying really hard to come up with launches of MMORPGs that did better but I keep failing, well except Rift which came out of the gates swinging and look how that was a good indication of its succes.....

    Ten weeks. Its always easier to see the warts on somebody elses' face I guess.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Buahaha, I bet you made this comment with your pathetic holier than thou 2009 join date. Well, let me tell you, buddy, I don't have patience for garbage. And I am old school.

    WoW was and is a joke. Always has been.
    Flexing joined date while acting like a child, got it. Who cares about WoW anyways? I certainly never said I did in the post you quoted. Perhaps dementia is plaguing your mind ‘oh ancient one.’ 

    It also took you two years to come up with a comment and you couldn’t put in the effort to make it less rude, or properly read what you were responding too. Perhaps next time wait a year extra before posting?

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Ouch, the burn. Remind me to never, ever get on your bad side.
    lahnmir
    ....
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