I actually like the Dune novels written by the son better then his more famous dad.
Scot puts his head in his hands and walks away.
Kevin J. Anderson, reputed to be a nice guy, but certainly a terrible writer. Unless he got better in the last decade.
well most have been over 20 years ago I read them. Thing is I started with the son and Kevins work first. My memory may be faulty but I think they had a trilogy out which fleshed out the factions I enjoyed. When I afterwards read his father work I was not overly impressed. Think Kevin also had some Star Wars novels I enjoyed.
Mind you I have read and enjoyed most of the classics in both genres. Before I got sick/went batshit in my early 30s. Many a fond memory turning up at work sleepy af because you could not put a good book away.
Can not read books anymore so I gave away most to friends and tossed the rest. Just reminded me of better times.
According to specialists I should be able to read books because I game at a decent lvl. Well they are wrong...
I am a scizo misanthrope. So one day I may go BANZAI on your post. Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope? Nah there is really none for me or the human race.
Arya Stark was my favorite character in both the books and the TV series. Her single-minded quest for retribution made her lovable in a Charles Bronson / Liam Neeson kind of way
Jaime was my favorite GoT/ASOIAF character. He was one of the best characters in fantasy history.
And then the way Season 8 Face-Heel-Turned him again, undoing seasons of character development, then killed him anticlimactically was a perfect encapsulation of just how bad that ending was. They rendered their best character essentially pointless with circular character development and little importance to the endgame.
Jaime was my favorite GoT/ASOIAF character. He was one of the best characters in fantasy history.
And then the way Season 8 Face-Heel-Turned him again, undoing seasons of character development, then killed him anticlimactically was a perfect encapsulation of just how bad that ending was. They rendered their best character essentially pointless with circular character development and little importance to the endgame.
I really liked Jaime’s story. He was a loyal guy right down to the bitter end.
I so wish the could of given the series ending the time it deserved.
Kurt Vonnegut doesn't get the recognition as a science fiction fantasy writer I feel he deserves. Even in his modern settings his fiction superseded reality but that mostly goes unrecognized.
Mostly what I love about his writings are how he doesn't pander to social or political groups, opinions, or thought trains. He would continually deconstruct simplistic social or political tropes and expose them for the overly simplistic candy they often are.
Science fiction is a genre of thought and introspection about society and technology. It questions our choices and the use of technology. Vonnegut did that in spades.
I'm not sure if that is unpopular, but the man and his writings often evoke very strong opinions either way. I think he's definitely worthy of mention and scrutiny.
One of my favorite witers of all time. I've read everything he ever wrote (I think) from Player Piano on. Slaughterhouse 5 was my favorite.
He was nominated for many Hugos and Nebulas although I don't think he ever won.
Loved his unique sense of humor and understated, matter of fact, writing style.
I don't recall reading Vonnegut before. Now I think this author deserves a try.
Thanks for the insights
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Many of them. Let us flame the forum then, shall we?
1. RNG is evil and must be abolished once and for all.
2. Lootboxes are evil and must be abolished once and for all.
3. All roads in any mmo should follow "two turns" rule. And "Two turns" rule mean: objective of quest cannot be further than two direct turns from quest giver. Perfect road is a direct line, no curves.
4. Choice should matter. If I am to kill 10 rats, i may kill 10 rats, may lie that I killed or just buy 10 dead rats - it's the reaction that would follow.
5. Nerfing of anything, except monsters, should be abolished. Sorry, dear game creators, it is monsters that must suffer, not players.
6. Istaria should return to free-to-play model it once had, unlike current "free to try for few levels".
7. There is no such term as "overpowered" and no "pay to win" in pure PvE games (Pay to Survive - yes, it exists. Buy SuperMegaCrystal at store...or suffer repearing raid for 99 times + being kicked from groups because of lack of Crystal). If class does great dps, it is good and since there is no standard in damage dealing - there could be no "overpowered" things.
You have great points here! Some I agree with and others I don't.
Isn't it great that we all have differing tastes
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I like the new Star Wars films (with criticisms of course)
Don't like any of the Gothic games
Castle design in Fantasy games don't take into account fantasy warfare or monsters.
I am enjoying the Wheel of Time Amazon series though I have strong criticisms about some of their decisions. Same with the Witcher on Netflix.
Don't really like Babylon 5 or Deep Space 9. I can watch them but would never do so on my own.
Most tabletop role playing games that I have tried are too wrapped up in minutiae and get very boring because of it.
Is the Wheel of Time/Witcher opinion unpopular? Both franchises are getting good ratings and are generally well received.
Wheel of Time oozes respect for its novels. The people on board clearly care, and clearly want to make a good series. If you want to see a bad adaptation, look at the Shanaynay Chronicles.
Sorry if this talked about later...
Wheel of Time crash has totally missed the boat on the novels. They neither love nor respect the books. I suggest reading them before echoing such drivel
If you've watched the series, I ask who you think the "hero" of the series is. If it's not Morgaine, I'd be surprised
I wanted to touch on this, for further explanation. Sorry if it only matters to me
My biggest gripe with the "adaptation" of Wheel of Time is creators missed the central foundation of the whole story: Men and women must work together to survive.
The One Power has thrown many people off of the trail. It is actually one power made up of two sides, like Yin and Yang. It is two sides that combine to make the whole.
Saidar is the female side of the One Power.
Saidar is said to be a "river of Power" which must be surrendered to or "embraced" in order to gain control.
Saider is the male portion.
Saidar is described as a raging torrent of the Power which must be subdued
and dominated by a strong-willed channeler in order to be controlled.
The two sides are mutually exclusive and can never be accessed the other gender. The Dark One tainted the male side, which why males eventually go nutz. The Female side is nice and clean, even a joy to use.
Thus, the whole basis of the books is trashed in the opening scene with Morgaine rambling on about a "female dragon."
With this central pillar destroyed (for whatever reasons), the rest quickly falls apart.
Now, if someone enjoys the series, that's great! It is a "story." But NOT The Wheel of Time story
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Unpopular.. I like F2P, Enjoy Item Shops, and think that Subs were a waste.. There I said it.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Arya Stark was my favorite character in both the books and the TV series. Her single-minded quest for retribution made her lovable in a Charles Bronson / Liam Neeson kind of way
I sure don’t want to piss you off
My name is Inigo Montoya...
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Unpopular.. I like F2P, Enjoy Item Shops, and think that Subs were a waste.. There I said it.
I agree with you honestly. I don't mind paying a sub but I like trying a game first. Like Albion. I played for 4 days and put 16 hours into it which is rare for me so I subbed for a month. If I burn it I will cancel but hey I am enjoying it now. I also have no problem dropping money on an item shop if the game is free or B2P and cheap.
To be honest, I like B2P as well.
I fully support optional sub based games, like LotRO, DDO, and many others.
I fully support the idea of F2P/B2P game systems, that will have paid and free content, in fact, I feel that the idea of buying content is about the most honest approach that a game company can make, you like the game, you buy more of the game, it's an honest, simple, and straightforward exchange.
If you don't like the game, feel free to screw around for a bit, play the free stuff and then move on, hopefully to a game you enjoy more.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Unpopular.. I like F2P, Enjoy Item Shops, and think that Subs were a waste.. There I said it.
I agree with you honestly. I don't mind paying a sub but I like trying a game first. Like Albion. I played for 4 days and put 16 hours into it which is rare for me so I subbed for a month. If I burn it I will cancel but hey I am enjoying it now. I also have no problem dropping money on an item shop if the game is free or B2P and cheap.
To be honest, I like B2P as well.
I fully support optional sub based games, like LotRO, DDO, and many others.
I fully support the idea of F2P/B2P game systems, that will have paid and free content, in fact, I feel that the idea of buying content is about the most honest approach that a game company can make, you like the game, you buy more of the game, it's an honest, simple, and straightforward exchange.
If you don't like the game, feel free to screw around for a bit, play the free stuff and then move on, hopefully to a game you enjoy more.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
Subscription only is actually the ultimate P2W.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
But it's not yours. And it never was sold as being "yours."
You are subbing for access to a game. If that game closes nothing is sent to you for your time in game, the access is shut off.
You own nothing.
There is nothing stupid about a company spelling out what your money buys and you agree or not. If you don't like it then great but don't play that type of game.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I like the new Star Wars films (with criticisms of course)
Don't like any of the Gothic games
Castle design in Fantasy games don't take into account fantasy warfare or monsters.
I am enjoying the Wheel of Time Amazon series though I have strong criticisms about some of their decisions. Same with the Witcher on Netflix.
Don't really like Babylon 5 or Deep Space 9. I can watch them but would never do so on my own.
Most tabletop role playing games that I have tried are too wrapped up in minutiae and get very boring because of it.
Is the Wheel of Time/Witcher opinion unpopular? Both franchises are getting good ratings and are generally well received.
Wheel of Time oozes respect for its novels. The people on board clearly care, and clearly want to make a good series. If you want to see a bad adaptation, look at the Shanaynay Chronicles.
Sorry if this talked about later...
Wheel of Time crash has totally missed the boat on the novels. They neither love nor respect the books. I suggest reading them before echoing such drivel
If you've watched the series, I ask who you think the "hero" of the series is. If it's not Morgaine, I'd be surprised
I wanted to touch on this, for further explanation. Sorry if it only matters to me
My biggest gripe with the "adaptation" of Wheel of Time is creators missed the central foundation of the whole story: Men and women must work together to survive.
The One Power has thrown many people off of the trail. It is actually one power made up of two sides, like Yin and Yang. It is two sides that combine to make the whole.
Saidar is the female side of the One Power.
Saidar is said to be a "river of Power" which must be surrendered to or "embraced" in order to gain control.
Saider is the male portion.
Saidar is described as a raging torrent of the Power which must be subdued
and dominated by a strong-willed channeler in order to be controlled.
The two sides are mutually exclusive and can never be accessed the other gender. The Dark One tainted the male side, which why males eventually go nutz. The Female side is nice and clean, even a joy to use.
Thus, the whole basis of the books is trashed in the opening scene with Morgaine rambling on about a "female dragon."
With this central pillar destroyed (for whatever reasons), the rest quickly falls apart.
Now, if someone enjoys the series, that's great! It is a "story." But NOT The Wheel of Time story
i didnt really like the wheel of time. Seems to be infiltrated with a subtle form of wokeness like most stuff these days. Not really for me though I suppose I'm not the target audience, just the target.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
But it's not yours. And it never was sold as being "yours."
You are subbing for access to a game. If that game closes nothing is sent to you for your time in game, the access is shut off.
You own nothing.
There is nothing stupid about a company spelling out what your money buys and you agree or not. If you don't like it then great but don't play that type of game.
That's why I stopped, I thought needing to pay a sub just to access my character was the dumbest thing ever. I didn't like it way back in 90's when I started playing Online Games, when that the was the only deal in town.
Still think it is a shit system today.
The second F2P came out, I stopped with that Sub based Bullshit, and never looked back.
I love Item Malls. I buy shit from them all the time to support the games I enjoy playing, and if I want to go check out my old haunts, I can just patch up the launcher and check them out. See who's still around, see what changed, what didn't.
If I am feeling like I am having fun again, I might even stay a bit, and drop a dime or two into the store, because I like to support my hobbies.
IMHO B2P/F2P has been the best overall change to MMO's ever, and it was DDO that started it all... and to the surprise of no one.. my main haunt is DDO.
The idea that if I wanted to go check out any of my characters in EQ, I would need to pay a sub to do it, has kept me away from ever going back to that game. Same with all the other sub based games, that sub functions of a gatewarden keeping me from ever returning.
And you know what.. I am content with that.
This is also why I also think NFT / Character Ownership will also change the future landscape for the better for some players like myself, that like having that access their character, what they have invested a lot of their life hours into, without needing to pay someone else to do so.
For the players that love the idea of needing to forever pay their sub to access their character the companies property that they just got to play with, I am sure some games will stay around to appease them.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Tom Holland is a fine actor, and plays Peter Parker well, but the MCU Peter Parker is easily the most forgettable Peter, and faces the least amount of actual problems compared to Toby/Garfield.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
But it's not yours. And it never was sold as being "yours."
You are subbing for access to a game. If that game closes nothing is sent to you for your time in game, the access is shut off.
You own nothing.
There is nothing stupid about a company spelling out what your money buys and you agree or not. If you don't like it then great but don't play that type of game.
That's why I stopped, I thought needing to pay a sub just to access my character was the dumbest thing ever. I didn't like it way back in 90's when I started playing Online Games, when that the was the only deal in town.
Still think it is a shit system today.
The second F2P came out, I stopped with that Sub based Bullshit, and never looked back.
I love Item Malls. I buy shit from them all the time to support the games I enjoy playing, and if I want to go check out my old haunts, I can just patch up the launcher and check them out. See who's still around, see what changed, what didn't.
If I am feeling like I am having fun again, I might even stay a bit, and drop a dime or two into the store, because I like to support my hobbies.
IMHO B2P/F2P has been the best overall change to MMO's ever, and it was DDO that started it all... and to the surprise of no one.. my main haunt is DDO.
The idea that if I wanted to go check out any of my characters in EQ, I would need to pay a sub to do it, has kept me away from ever going back to that game. Same with all the other sub based games, that sub functions of a gatewarden keeping me from ever returning.
And you know what.. I am content with that.
This is also why I also think NFT / Character Ownership will also change the future landscape for the better for some players like myself, that like having that access their character, what they have invested a lot of their life hours into, without needing to pay someone else to do so.
For the players that love the idea of needing to forever pay their sub to access their character the companies property that they just got to play with, I am sure some games will stay around to appease them.
I like the new Star Wars films (with criticisms of course)
Don't like any of the Gothic games
Castle design in Fantasy games don't take into account fantasy warfare or monsters.
I am enjoying the Wheel of Time Amazon series though I have strong criticisms about some of their decisions. Same with the Witcher on Netflix.
Don't really like Babylon 5 or Deep Space 9. I can watch them but would never do so on my own.
Most tabletop role playing games that I have tried are too wrapped up in minutiae and get very boring because of it.
Is the Wheel of Time/Witcher opinion unpopular? Both franchises are getting good ratings and are generally well received.
Wheel of Time oozes respect for its novels. The people on board clearly care, and clearly want to make a good series. If you want to see a bad adaptation, look at the Shanaynay Chronicles.
Sorry if this talked about later...
Wheel of Time crash has totally missed the boat on the novels. They neither love nor respect the books. I suggest reading them before echoing such drivel
If you've watched the series, I ask who you think the "hero" of the series is. If it's not Morgaine, I'd be surprised
I wanted to touch on this, for further explanation. Sorry if it only matters to me
My biggest gripe with the "adaptation" of Wheel of Time is creators missed the central foundation of the whole story: Men and women must work together to survive.
The One Power has thrown many people off of the trail. It is actually one power made up of two sides, like Yin and Yang. It is two sides that combine to make the whole.
Saidar is the female side of the One Power.
Saidar is said to be a "river of Power" which must be surrendered to or "embraced" in order to gain control.
Saider is the male portion.
Saidar is described as a raging torrent of the Power which must be subdued
and dominated by a strong-willed channeler in order to be controlled.
The two sides are mutually exclusive and can never be accessed the other gender. The Dark One tainted the male side, which why males eventually go nutz. The Female side is nice and clean, even a joy to use.
Thus, the whole basis of the books is trashed in the opening scene with Morgaine rambling on about a "female dragon."
With this central pillar destroyed (for whatever reasons), the rest quickly falls apart.
Now, if someone enjoys the series, that's great! It is a "story." But NOT The Wheel of Time story
I don't disagree with any of this. But still, this is, and I imagine will be, the only Wheel of Time "flavored" anything we will have for a long time so I just enjoy it for what it is.
I don't know if the show runners understood the books but made these changes because of "reasons" or if they missed the point. I strongly suspect it's the former as I can see some of their logic for some of their decisions: making it so that Perrin has a wife "etc, etc" making it so that Loial is not the one who opens the ways, and the choices they made/had to make at the last episode.
I understand, or have at least "heard" that the show runners asked for 10 episodes and they were given 8. Let's hope that with the success of the show that they are given those extra two and don't feel that they need to condense as much.
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I did not read the books, but I really enjoyed my time watching the Wheel of Time.
Anyways, there is often (systematically?) discrepancies between books and their visual adaptations for TV/theater.
I love Tolkien and a lot of people criticized the Peter Jackson's version. Personally, and despite several differences, I loved it. It was the first time that the heroic fantasy genre was so well represented (IMO).
Nowadays, everybody and their sisters watch GoT and the Witcher. That's the revenge of the heroic fantasy lovers.
I did not read the books, but I really enjoyed my time watching the Wheel of Time.
Anyways, there is often (systematically?) discrepancies between books and their visual adaptations for TV/theater.
I love Tolkien and a lot of people criticized the Peter Jackson's version. Personally, and despite several differences, I loved it. It was the first time that the heroic fantasy genre was so well represented (IMO).
Nowadays, everybody and their sisters watch GoT and the Witcher. That's the revenge of the heroic fantasy lovers.
That's cool! I hope you and Sovrath keep on enjoying the show!
For me, it is just another disappointment from the entertainment industry. I feel that books to films will have discrepancies, but the foundation has to be there for me.
When Mr, Martin was more involved with the GoT (seasons 1 through 4?), the writing was passable. When the writers were left on their own, they lost all direction that culminated in that abysmal ending.
I did enjoy watching The Lord of The Rings even with it's discrepancies. The basis of the story was there
Still, other people loved the series. I'm glad they enjoyed their time with it
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I did enjoy watching The Lord of The Rings even with it's discrepancies. The basis of the story was there
I never watched a movie that truly captured the depth of the book it was based on.
This is why, if I can, I never read the book the first, I watch the movie first, then I read the book.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Unpopular.. I like F2P, Enjoy Item Shops, and think that Subs were a waste.. There I said it.
I agree with you honestly. I don't mind paying a sub but I like trying a game first. Like Albion. I played for 4 days and put 16 hours into it which is rare for me so I subbed for a month. If I burn it I will cancel but hey I am enjoying it now. I also have no problem dropping money on an item shop if the game is free or B2P and cheap.
To be honest, I like B2P as well.
I fully support optional sub based games, like LotRO, DDO, and many others.
I fully support the idea of F2P/B2P game systems, that will have paid and free content, in fact, I feel that the idea of buying content is about the most honest approach that a game company can make, you like the game, you buy more of the game, it's an honest, simple, and straightforward exchange.
If you don't like the game, feel free to screw around for a bit, play the free stuff and then move on, hopefully to a game you enjoy more.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
You convinced me on this, originally subs were designed with the intent to continue making content and making the game better. What ending up happening is the sub got baked into the price and these games charged for DLC's anyways. The games declined in quality in most cases.
I agree B2P with paid content DLC's is my preferred option now. Make them earn their money and continue making quality products or leave the game as it is and make a completely new product. Either way I think the players are better for it this way.
I did enjoy watching The Lord of The Rings even with it's discrepancies. The basis of the story was there
I never watched a movie that truly captured the depth of the book it was based on.
This is why, if I can, I never read the book the first, I watch the movie first, then I read the book.
'The Prestige' has done a pretty good job. Then there are movies that are better than the books. For instance 'The Shining', movie is a masterpiece while the book is Stephen King. I can think of more Stephen King stuff; The Shawshank Redemption, Stand by Me, The Green Mile, The Dead Zone, The Mist, and Misery. All of which I believe movies are better than the books.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
I am going to stick a couple of names out there we have not trashed yet:
HG Wells Lord Dunsany John Kendrick Bangs George MacDonald
Surely someone can think of a reason to have a go at these seminal authors in the time honoured MMORPG.com fashion?
I like Wells a lot and it's a bit hard to describe. He had this way of incorporating science fact and science possibility in a most natural manner. He can talk about science without seemingly pointing out he's talking about science.
His focus seemed heavily on the human condition, exploring what makes us human and our behavioral motivators. He looked at science through a moral lens seeing both the potential for good and while also examining the harm it could cause by those with bad intentions.
In addition to all that he's a great storyteller who created interesting characters in a compelling setting and plot. The Island of Doctor Moreau is probably my favorite novel by him and one of my all time favorites period.
A novel of many themes which in film/TV adaptations is rather too easily turned into a horror adventure. Though there has been more film versions than I can remember. The idea of comparing people to animals and drawing all sorts of allegory from that has long gone out of fashion, possibly because us city folk rarely see anything other than a pet? Today our vehicles transform not the wolves and great cats.
If I will level any criticism at Wells it is that his novels were rather short. Though you must have noticed that padding in literature is a modern disease that seems to gain more victims each year. Can you imagine what a modern poet would say if he was advised to lose half of a new poem in various sections and it became one of his best known poems? Not sure today's TS Elliot would ever get asked to do something like that.
I think season 2 will be more of the same. They started filming before the show did well as Amazon picked up for a season 2 months before 1 even aired. As a fan of the books I won't even be watching season 2 however, I think they ruined a very well story. I get that they asked for 10 and got 8 but it was the condensing that was the problem it was what they added, took away, and changed.
They could have got rid of the whole episode with Lan and Morianne in the White Tower and instead gave Rand, Mat, and Thom an entire episode. They could have focused on Perrin more by introducing a character from the book who has his gift, ect...
That's the thing, I'm sort of torn ...
The show doesn't give enough time to the main characters of the book. And it certainly doesn't give us enough time with Rand, Matt and Perrin to really want them to succeed. However, I love the extra stuff like Lan and Moraine in the tower as it really fleshes them out.
I wonder if part of fleshing out Morraine has anything to do with Rosamund Pike being one of the producers? I lover her acting but I wonder if she wanted the show to be more "ensemble" and that's what we got?
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I like the new Star Wars films (with criticisms of course)
Don't like any of the Gothic games
Castle design in Fantasy games don't take into account fantasy warfare or monsters.
I am enjoying the Wheel of Time Amazon series though I have strong criticisms about some of their decisions. Same with the Witcher on Netflix.
Don't really like Babylon 5 or Deep Space 9. I can watch them but would never do so on my own.
Most tabletop role playing games that I have tried are too wrapped up in minutiae and get very boring because of it.
Is the Wheel of Time/Witcher opinion unpopular? Both franchises are getting good ratings and are generally well received.
Wheel of Time oozes respect for its novels. The people on board clearly care, and clearly want to make a good series. If you want to see a bad adaptation, look at the Shanaynay Chronicles.
Sorry if this talked about later...
Wheel of Time crash has totally missed the boat on the novels. They neither love nor respect the books. I suggest reading them before echoing such drivel
If you've watched the series, I ask who you think the "hero" of the series is. If it's not Morgaine, I'd be surprised
I wanted to touch on this, for further explanation. Sorry if it only matters to me
My biggest gripe with the "adaptation" of Wheel of Time is creators missed the central foundation of the whole story: Men and women must work together to survive.
The One Power has thrown many people off of the trail. It is actually one power made up of two sides, like Yin and Yang. It is two sides that combine to make the whole.
Saidar is the female side of the One Power.
Saidar is said to be a "river of Power" which must be surrendered to or "embraced" in order to gain control.
Saider is the male portion.
Saidar is described as a raging torrent of the Power which must be subdued
and dominated by a strong-willed channeler in order to be controlled.
The two sides are mutually exclusive and can never be accessed the other gender. The Dark One tainted the male side, which why males eventually go nutz. The Female side is nice and clean, even a joy to use.
Thus, the whole basis of the books is trashed in the opening scene with Morgaine rambling on about a "female dragon."
With this central pillar destroyed (for whatever reasons), the rest quickly falls apart.
Now, if someone enjoys the series, that's great! It is a "story." But NOT The Wheel of Time story
Well said, but I was able to get past the silly female dragon stuff since I knew it was just noise and we knew who the Dragon was.
Just an example of the trend of show runners feeling the need to tweak and change more of the base material than needs to be changed to adapt it to film/TV.
IMHO the source material was proven popular (not WOT specific, but a generality to adaptions). Some things need to change to fit a book that is a thousand pages into a 2 hour movie or 8 episode TV show. But when the further "off script" they go... the worse. Even GoT (one of the most successful adaptations) made changes (Lady Stoneheart where are you?) but most of those were ones they HAD to make... Once they ran out of source material and had to wing it... things went down hill.
Rafe is not Jordan... so he should not even TRY to change the story on his own. It's like he is tainting Saidar when he does so
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Think Kevin also had some Star Wars novels I enjoyed.
Mind you I have read and enjoyed most of the classics in both genres. Before I got sick/went batshit in my early 30s. Many a fond memory turning up at work sleepy af because you could not put a good book away.
Can not read books anymore so I gave away most to friends and tossed the rest. Just reminded me of better times.
According to specialists I should be able to read books because I game at a decent lvl.
Well they are wrong...
Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope?
Nah there is really none for me or the human race.
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And then the way Season 8 Face-Heel-Turned him again, undoing seasons of character development, then killed him anticlimactically was a perfect encapsulation of just how bad that ending was. They rendered their best character essentially pointless with circular character development and little importance to the endgame.
I so wish the could of given the series ending the time it deserved.
I did like the message.
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Now, if someone enjoys the series, that's great! It is a "story." But NOT The Wheel of Time story
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
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I fully support optional sub based games, like LotRO, DDO, and many others.
I fully support the idea of F2P/B2P game systems, that will have paid and free content, in fact, I feel that the idea of buying content is about the most honest approach that a game company can make, you like the game, you buy more of the game, it's an honest, simple, and straightforward exchange.
If you don't like the game, feel free to screw around for a bit, play the free stuff and then move on, hopefully to a game you enjoy more.
But I despise the Sub based system, simply because that makes it so that I am always renting access to what should be my character. I could pay that sub for 20 years, and if I want to even so much as look at my character sheet or just take a stroll in game, I will need to pay that sub again, and truth be told, to me, I think that whole plan sucks.
Nothing against the people that like that plan, I just think it's stupid and it sucks.
/Cheers,
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
You are subbing for access to a game. If that game closes nothing is sent to you for your time in game, the access is shut off.
You own nothing.
There is nothing stupid about a company spelling out what your money buys and you agree or not. If you don't like it then great but don't play that type of game.
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Still think it is a shit system today.
The second F2P came out, I stopped with that Sub based Bullshit, and never looked back.
I love Item Malls. I buy shit from them all the time to support the games I enjoy playing, and if I want to go check out my old haunts, I can just patch up the launcher and check them out. See who's still around, see what changed, what didn't.
If I am feeling like I am having fun again, I might even stay a bit, and drop a dime or two into the store, because I like to support my hobbies.
IMHO B2P/F2P has been the best overall change to MMO's ever, and it was DDO that started it all... and to the surprise of no one.. my main haunt is DDO.
The idea that if I wanted to go check out any of my characters in EQ, I would need to pay a sub to do it, has kept me away from ever going back to that game. Same with all the other sub based games, that sub functions of a gatewarden keeping me from ever returning.
And you know what.. I am content with that.
This is also why I also think NFT / Character Ownership will also change the future landscape for the better for some players like myself, that like having that access their character, what they have invested a lot of their life hours into, without needing to pay someone else to do so.
For the players that love the idea of needing to forever pay their sub to access their character the companies property that they just got to play with, I am sure some games will stay around to appease them.
Guild Wars was B2p in 2005
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- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
This is why, if I can, I never read the book the first, I watch the movie first, then I read the book.
You convinced me on this, originally subs were designed with the intent to continue making content and making the game better. What ending up happening is the sub got baked into the price and these games charged for DLC's anyways. The games declined in quality in most cases.
I agree B2P with paid content DLC's is my preferred option now. Make them earn their money and continue making quality products or leave the game as it is and make a completely new product. Either way I think the players are better for it this way.
If I will level any criticism at Wells it is that his novels were rather short. Though you must have noticed that padding in literature is a modern disease that seems to gain more victims each year. Can you imagine what a modern poet would say if he was advised to lose half of a new poem in various sections and it became one of his best known poems? Not sure today's TS Elliot would ever get asked to do something like that.
The show doesn't give enough time to the main characters of the book. And it certainly doesn't give us enough time with Rand, Matt and Perrin to really want them to succeed. However, I love the extra stuff like Lan and Moraine in the tower as it really fleshes them out.
I wonder if part of fleshing out Morraine has anything to do with Rosamund Pike being one of the producers? I lover her acting but I wonder if she wanted the show to be more "ensemble" and that's what we got?
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Just an example of the trend of show runners feeling the need to tweak and change more of the base material than needs to be changed to adapt it to film/TV.
IMHO the source material was proven popular (not WOT specific, but a generality to adaptions). Some things need to change to fit a book that is a thousand pages into a 2 hour movie or 8 episode TV show. But when the further "off script" they go... the worse. Even GoT (one of the most successful adaptations) made changes (Lady Stoneheart where are you?) but most of those were ones they HAD to make... Once they ran out of source material and had to wing it... things went down hill.
Rafe is not Jordan... so he should not even TRY to change the story on his own. It's like he is tainting Saidar when he does so
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