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Ashes of Creation Interview with Steven Sharif: 'This Will Be One of the Largest and Most Successful

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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,650
    Sandmanjw said:
    Just 5 little words for happy gamers....

    SHOW ME THE RELEASED GAME

    If we all wait for those 5 little words to come true, no more guessing, complaining, horror stories, or scams.

    Of course, gamers are the most ignorant, willful, impatient, gullible consumers ever....so meh, go forth and MULTIPLY ya sheep.
    and the Devs are thinking, "SHOW ME THE MONEY!!"  lol

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  • bgzgamerbgzgamer Member UncommonPosts: 127
    edited January 2022
    guys im making an mmo too and its going to be the best selling mmo ever... after my pre-alpha 189

    /s
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  • BC_AnimusBC_Animus Member UncommonPosts: 115
    If it weren't for the large number of constantly changing monthly pre-order mount/pet/cosmetic packages, the lack of progress shown, and the overly aggressive and fake sounding PR marketing, I might be inclined to believe something is actually being developed.

    I have no doubt they have a small playable demo made using ready-made engine and assets which they show off to investors, but honestly I can't believe folks are still buying into this game at this stage. Personally I think this game is a scam, and they are milking the pre-order packages for as long as they can by generating interest via these periodic PR moves.
    McSleaz
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    Hey all, I uploaded a new video to help with the background sound. If you guys were having issues hearing the video before, it should be all good now! Sorry about that! 

    Separately, I do love how inquisitive our community is. I would certainly want to hear some of your questions that you would like answers to, if and when another interview opportunity comes around again. If one comes around again, perhaps I'll put out an open call for the community to participate in a few questions?

    Either way, I still love reading everyone's thoughts! 
    It would be GREAT if you simply went back and compared his own words that he used over the years to what really happened and what he is saying today.

    Thats really all you need to do.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    bgzgamer said:
    guys im making an mmo too and its going to be the best selling mmo ever... after my pre-alpha 189

    /s
    Add in some NFTs and I'm all in.

     :D 
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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    The good thing is is that you all can sit in here sounding like a bunch of grumbly old women and the game is going to come out anyway. And it's going to be good.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    elc8745 said:
    The good thing is is that you all can sit in here sounding like a bunch of grumbly old women and the game is going to come out anyway. And it's going to be good.
    Was your insult supposed to mean more because it referred to old people or because it referred to women?

    just asking for a friend.

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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    I was debating between grumbly old men and grumbly old women. I determined that because most of the people in here are probably men, grumbly old women would make this most horrific of insults sting a little bit more.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    elc8745 said:
    I was debating between grumbly old men and grumbly old women. I determined that because most of the people in here are probably men, grumbly old women would make this most horrific of insults sting a little bit more.
    So you were debating the sexist attack but not the ageist one.  OK thanks for clearing that up.

    How about just calling us grumpy next time and leaving age/sex/race/religion out of it?

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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Are you serious? You're going full PC principal on me BRO? Calling me sexist because I said grumbly old women LOL. Never go full PC principal. You just make yourself look silly.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    elc8745 said:
    Are you serious? You're going full PC principal on me BRO? Calling me sexist because I said grumbly old women LOL. Never go full PC principal. You just make yourself look silly.
    There is simply no reason for it. You use age and sex as an insult and get mad when called on it?  Sorry... Im not the silly one here.  Make your point about grumpy and move along.
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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    Now you really sound like a grumbly old woman lol. Point proven.
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  • BC_AnimusBC_Animus Member UncommonPosts: 115
    I find your use of the word "grumpy" to be really feelist and insulting.
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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    I have no idea what that means but it sounds awesome. I'm assuming sarcasm but after getting jumped on by PC Principal I'm not sure lol. The word is GRUMBLY.
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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    No, why? I played ESO though.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    elc8745 said:
    I was debating between grumbly old men and grumbly old women. I determined that because most of the people in here are probably men, grumbly old women would make this most horrific of insults sting a little bit more.
    So you were debating the sexist attack but not the ageist one.  OK thanks for clearing that up.

    How about just calling us grumpy next time and leaving age/sex/race/religion out of it?

    Wouldn't that be moodist? 

    ;) 
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  • ChicknNuggiesChicknNuggies Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    I wanted to comment on one aspect they never covered in this interview and it's something we've been burned on with other games that shall not be mentioned by name (or maybe I will just because they really burned us lol). This is an MMORPG. But there has been no conversation on what exactly will be done for the role-players. You can't market a game as a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.. and totally ignore the Role-players.

    Will there be dedicated RP servers?

    Will there be persistent profiles?

    Will there be an easy to use chat system that helps foster good role-playing?

    Will there be tools to help role-players like dice and RP markers to help RPers find other RPers?

    Will there be protections against RP trolls or harassment?

    In your interview you mentioned, without mentioning the name, a certain recently released game that uses similar territory control aspects. That game in particular lied to the role-play community, leading them to believe they were going to respect role-players and help foster an environment suitable for good fun role-play between players and when we actually got into the game, we found out no only was the game woefully lacking in any means to RP, if you RPed in the game it actually singled you out for ridicule and harassment by other players. Thousands of role-players flocked to that game, organized and helped promote that game because of the lies and promises made by Developers about how dedicated they were to the RP community. Thousands of role-players no longer play that game and their player numbers are still declining.

    Will this be another New World or will Ashes of Creation actually put some thought and focus into fostering a healthy roleplay environment? It would be a shame for yet another game design company to lose sight of the fact that the people who stick around playing a game the longest, are the ones who have personal investment in the game; i.e... role-players.
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  • elc8745elc8745 Member UncommonPosts: 51
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Roleplaying

    That's the roleplaying section, it should answer some questions. Take a look at the wiki as a whole though, it's like mmo porn.
    ScotKyleran
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,439
    elc8745 said:
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Roleplaying

    That's the roleplaying section, it should answer some questions. Take a look at the wiki as a whole though, it's like mmo porn.
    Some excellent ideas, just hoping in comes out this decade.
    Kyleran
  • Haki88Haki88 Member UncommonPosts: 233
    Click on that link then click or hold mouse on "flowers". You are going to see this:

    House plants may be available as housing decor items.

    • The developers have discussed potentially adding mechanics to potted plants that yield unique items if the plant is properly maintained.

    One of the big directives for the environment team- and I know Mia has been amazing in this regard- is each of the biomes really need to have a a fairly eclectic selection of plant life, of vegetation, of foliage. These help to create the atmosphere that you are really immersed in this different climate zone and that that's obviously something that we as players enjoy when we get to see a significant diversity of plant life, because it does lend itself to the immersive nature of the world.[4]Steven Sharif


    In UE5 video we saw these "flowers" fighting so wtf is it? Monster or housing decor?
    Someone in interpid messed up but thats normal :p
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  • ircaddictsircaddicts Member UncommonPosts: 218
    I guess he does not like scam citzen geting all the coverage and wants some him self. No way will an open world pvp game be that large or successful
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  • bobbymcswansonbobbymcswanson Member UncommonPosts: 204
    tzervo said:
    No way will an open world pvp game be that large or successful
    BDO sends you kisses.

    (not that I believe what this guy says necessarily, I will believe it when I see it)
    So does Albion....I like how people who want every single mmo game to be just for them say nobody likes open world PvP. The PvE only crowd already ruined New World because they gobbled up every bit of PvE content on every other game and had to start terraforming potential PvP games. You can bet they are gonna buy this game anyway, knowing full well it is going to have pvp with consequence, and be in the forums for Ashes day 1 "This game is great but if you could scrap the whole meaningful consequences and pvp thing that would be great...thanks"

    I don't think half the people that are angry in here are angry because they think this game won't be as good, or it could be vapor...They are mad because someone is making a game that isn't totally for them, exactly the way they want it. Imagine being so starved for content you buy a game knowing it isn't what you like and then complaining for it to change and ruining it for the people that like that type of game, instead of just going and playing one of several games that already exist for your style of play....
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,060
    tzervo said:
    No way will an open world pvp game be that large or successful
    BDO sends you kisses.

    (not that I believe what this guy says necessarily, I will believe it when I see it)
    So does Albion....I like how people who want every single mmo game to be just for them say nobody likes open world PvP. The PvE only crowd already ruined New World because they gobbled up every bit of PvE content on every other game and had to start terraforming potential PvP games. You can bet they are gonna buy this game anyway, knowing full well it is going to have pvp with consequence, and be in the forums for Ashes day 1 "This game is great but if you could scrap the whole meaningful consequences and pvp thing that would be great...thanks"

    I don't think half the people that are angry in here are angry because they think this game won't be as good, or it could be vapor...They are mad because someone is making a game that isn't totally for them, exactly the way they want it. Imagine being so starved for content you buy a game knowing it isn't what you like and then complaining for it to change and ruining it for the people that like that type of game, instead of just going and playing one of several games that already exist for your style of play....
    Like many you fail to understand PVE players have never ruined a single game with regards to PVP design, it's the developers who choose to cater to their requests or demands in the hopes of getting or retaining them as customers.

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    edited January 2022
    elc8745 said:
    I was debating between grumbly old men and grumbly old women. I determined that because most of the people in here are probably men, grumbly old women would make this most horrific of insults sting a little bit more.
    So you were debating the sexist attack but not the ageist one.  OK thanks for clearing that up.

    How about just calling us grumpy next time and leaving age/sex/race/religion out of it?

    Wouldn't that be moodist? 

    ;) 
    Potentially but mood is not listed as one of the protected items by this site.  
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,653
    elc8745 said:
    https://ashesofcreation.wiki/Roleplaying

    That's the roleplaying section, it should answer some questions. Take a look at the wiki as a whole though, it's like mmo porn.
    COE had/has fantastic Wiki information too!   Unfortunately, I can’t play a Wikipedia page as far as I know. 
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