The "Game" MMORPG plays with locking topics

Quizzical

Iselin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

 Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Wow. really? Who elected those idiots?

Also I find it fascinating that it's the idiot politicians and not the courts who are supposed to decide what women can and can't do with their bodies.

I might be naive but I always thought it should be the woman and her doctor.

It's one thing to talk about the existence of another thread.  It's quite another to relitigate the arguments from that other thread.  That's not the point of this thread, so please stop.

Iselin

Quizzical said:

Iselin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

 Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Wow. really? Who elected those idiots?

Also I find it fascinating that it's the idiot politicians and not the courts who are supposed to decide what women can and can't do with their bodies.

I might be naive but I always thought it should be the woman and her doctor.

It's one thing to talk about the existence of another thread.  It's quite another to relitigate the arguments from that other thread.  That's not the point of this thread, so please stop.

Maybe you should tell the ones who started doing it, yourself included, to stop.

Slapshot1188

Stizzled said:

I don't like it when the 10K+ posters fight. Are you guys all getting a divorce?

Nah... just a circular firing squad so everyone gets mad and "reports" each other so everyone gets banned.  Then the staff can leave the articles unlocked.. because nobody will comment anyhow.

Ungood

Hey.. Hey.. look at me.. this new thing hit the fan and suddenly I am an expert in Dog Anal Glands... I mean.. whatever the current shit is.

In totally unrelated news, my dog has impacted anal glands, so I need to take her to vet to get her butthole squeezed. Got an appointment set up for Tuesday, I am sure none of us are looking forward to it, but hopefully she will stop dragging her ass on the carpet.

Utinni

so I need to take her to vet to get her butthole squeezed.

The actual term is "expressed".

TheDalaiBomba

Slapshot1188 said:

TheDalaiBomba said:

Aori said:

The comment disabled thing is definitely new but the political bias was around even when Suzie and Bill were here, Suzie in particular had a knack for pushing across the boundaries that they set. 

Difference between now and then was that, they were a lot more open to wider discussion until Suzie was about to commit minecraft on someone. Then it would get shutdown that or it was just a shitshow from onset.

Still, I preferred those days to now which is why I rarely visit these days.

Not so sure.  The amount of ignorance that immediately hit the topic makes me believe they should just avoid the topics entirely.

Folks are too lazy to even look up the contextual information surrounding the topics they then come here and pop off at the mouth about.  If that's the case, best to just leave it out altogether.  We really don't need to provide additional avenues for the ignorant to spread their mental infection.

Sounds exactly like watching TV and the talking heads.  Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Why should we expect more from a gaming forum?

That apathy is exactly why those people are allowed to continue holding office despite horrible performance records, you know.

We get the government we deserve.

ChildoftheShadows

Iselin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

 Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Wow. really? Who elected those idiots?

Also I find it fascinating that it's the idiot politicians and not the courts who are supposed to decide what women can and can't do with their bodies.

I might be naive but I always thought it should be the woman and her doctor.

I find it interesting the argument for abortions is what women can do to "their" bodies and not the body being killed. It's not their body. 

Just my 2c.

Iselin

Robokapp said:

wokeness is an encroaching cancer in the gaming space lately...

The real cancer is morons.

lahnmir

Iselin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

 Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Wow. really? Who elected those idiots?

Also I find it fascinating that it's the idiot politicians and not the courts who are supposed to decide what women can and can't do with their bodies.

I might be naive but I always thought it should be the woman and her doctor.

Also, this isn’t about ‘knowing, understanding and trusting the system,’ it is about a decision that gives states the power over a person’s body, and when I say person I of course mean women.

Because this isn’t about promiscuous girls murdering babies. It is about men controlling women, be it through non democratic tricks or the religiously fueled lie that a beating heart automatically equals a life. Had this been about a man’s body this would have never, ever passed.

A decision was made that gives a state the power to take away control of a woman over her own body, just think about that. The above is all somebody has to understand, not previous decisions, not the legal system, just the above. Next step will be forced vasectomies for men and euthanasia for people over the age of seventy five to slow overpopulation down. But fear not, your state knows what they are doing, you just have to trust the system.

I hate topics like these, people get banned, other people decide it is time to show their ugliest side, nobody wins. I’ll see where I end up by the end of the day, whatever.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Sandmanjw

How about if MMORPG.com has a subject that demands that there be no commenting on, they just say pass?

Rules for us peons should work pretty well for you folks too no? Just say no to the political crap.

No need to throw a grenade into a shithouse to see how big the mess will be, we can all agree that there will be a mess right?

MadBomber13

Good grief but this site doesn't disappoint for entertainment. People talking politics and throwing around the lates FOTM political bull from political talking heads and idiotic partisan hacks and doing so in a pretty much irrelevant web site dedicated to niche gaming... God I'm glad I still lurk in here from time to time!

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Scot

Do you need more evidence of the fact we don't want politics on the forums from that thread and now this? I don't see this as about moderation, we can go elsewhere for politics, we don't need to see it steeped in every aspect of our lives.

Even more so today when every issue is given a clarion call of hysteria, both for and against. Obviously I don't want the site doing political articles, but I can see how the staff might feel they need to make a stand or indeed follow "gaming's corporate response". We can start by more clearly saying we don't want this, what we tend to do instead is argue the political point.

TheDalaiBomba

Scot said:

Do you need more evidence of the fact we don't want politics on the forums from that thread and now this? I don't see this as about moderation, we can go elsewhere for politics, we don't need to see it steeped in every aspect of our lives.

Even more so today when every issue is given a clarion call of hysteria, both for and against. Obviously I don't want the site doing political articles, but I can see how the staff might feel they need to make a stand or indeed follow "gaming's corporate response". We can start by more clearly saying we don't want this, what we tend to do instead is argue the political point.

With all due respect: politics isn't going away because you'd like to ignore it.


Again, that's one of the biggest problems in general: apathy among citizens.  That fatalistic "they're all the same!" attitude (you can spot it in here from multiple posters already lol, a sad joke) is what the absolute worst of the worst depend on to stay in power.

It's rather sad, seeing so many adults so willingly surrender themselves to the slimiest of politicians' express goal: to sling so much shit you stop paying attention to the real bad stuff.  All out of, let's be honest: abject laziness.  We don't want to research things on our own- we want it boiled down to an article, at most, that reaffirms our own biases.  We don't want to understand the issue- we want to know what our "side" thinks (and yes, you there reading this as a "Fierce Independent" that hates both parties equally: that's still a side and shitting on both parties as if they're identical is both wrong AND still an incredibly lazy side to take).

We really need to be better, people.  We love to play characters that make a difference in their game world.  Characters that do things to help save or help folks, instead of just bitch about stuff with a fatalistic attitude that ensures nothing ever gets better.  I guess we're role-playing those folks because it's a helluva lot easier than actually going out and trying to make a difference in real life.

Scot

TheDalaiBomba said:

Scot said:

Do you need more evidence of the fact we don't want politics on the forums from that thread and now this? I don't see this as about moderation, we can go elsewhere for politics, we don't need to see it steeped in every aspect of our lives.

Even more so today when every issue is given a clarion call of hysteria, both for and against. Obviously I don't want the site doing political articles, but I can see how the staff might feel they need to make a stand or indeed follow "gaming's corporate response". We can start by more clearly saying we don't want this, what we tend to do instead is argue the political point.

With all due respect: politics isn't going away because you'd like to ignore it.


Again, that's one of the biggest problems in general: apathy among citizens.  That fatalistic "they're all the same!" attitude (you can spot it in here from multiple posters already lol, a sad joke) is what the absolute worst of the worst depend on to stay in power.

It's rather sad, seeing so many adults so willingly surrender themselves to the slimiest of politicians' express goal: to sling so much shit you stop paying attention to the real bad stuff.  All out of, let's be honest: abject laziness.  We don't want to research things on our own- we want it boiled down to an article, at most, that reaffirms our own biases.  We don't want to understand the issue- we want to know what our "side" thinks (and yes, you there reading this as a "Fierce Independent" that hates both parties equally: that's still a side and shitting on both parties as if they're identical is both wrong AND still an incredibly lazy side to take).

We really need to be better, people.  We love to play characters that make a difference in their game world.  Characters that do things to help save or help folks, instead of just bitch about stuff with a fatalistic attitude that ensures nothing ever gets better.  I guess we're role-playing those folks because it's a helluva lot easier than actually going out and trying to make a difference in real life.

We can access politics from so, so many points; from Twitter to 24 hour news, the papers to a news pop up every time you log in. We really don't need it here, politics is becoming nearly ubiquitous in everything we do online, so it is not a matter of ignoring it, it is a matter of putting up some boundaries.

TheDalaiBomba

Scot said:

TheDalaiBomba said:

Scot said:

Do you need more evidence of the fact we don't want politics on the forums from that thread and now this? I don't see this as about moderation, we can go elsewhere for politics, we don't need to see it steeped in every aspect of our lives.

Even more so today when every issue is given a clarion call of hysteria, both for and against. Obviously I don't want the site doing political articles, but I can see how the staff might feel they need to make a stand or indeed follow "gaming's corporate response". We can start by more clearly saying we don't want this, what we tend to do instead is argue the political point.

With all due respect: politics isn't going away because you'd like to ignore it.


Again, that's one of the biggest problems in general: apathy among citizens.  That fatalistic "they're all the same!" attitude (you can spot it in here from multiple posters already lol, a sad joke) is what the absolute worst of the worst depend on to stay in power.

It's rather sad, seeing so many adults so willingly surrender themselves to the slimiest of politicians' express goal: to sling so much shit you stop paying attention to the real bad stuff.  All out of, let's be honest: abject laziness.  We don't want to research things on our own- we want it boiled down to an article, at most, that reaffirms our own biases.  We don't want to understand the issue- we want to know what our "side" thinks (and yes, you there reading this as a "Fierce Independent" that hates both parties equally: that's still a side and shitting on both parties as if they're identical is both wrong AND still an incredibly lazy side to take).

We really need to be better, people.  We love to play characters that make a difference in their game world.  Characters that do things to help save or help folks, instead of just bitch about stuff with a fatalistic attitude that ensures nothing ever gets better.  I guess we're role-playing those folks because it's a helluva lot easier than actually going out and trying to make a difference in real life.

We can access politics from so, so many points; from Twitter to 24 hour news, the papers to a news pop up every time you log in. We really don't need it here, politics is becoming nearly ubiquitous in everything we do online, so it is not a matter of ignoring it, it is a matter of putting up some boundaries.

And still, so many are so ignorant of basic political realities.  It is amazing, I'll give it that.  Just in the worst way.

Scot

Well the upshot of that article is we lost Torval, so now I am pissed off; this is the sort of thing that happens and it just shows how such articles are just going to result in damage to the forum community. That's why we need boundaries as I mentioned.

TheDalaiBomba

Scot said:

Well the upshot of that article is we lost Torval, so now I am pissed off; this is the sort of thing that happens and it just shows how such articles are just going to result in damage to the forum community. That's why we need boundaries as I mentioned.

It is not really avoidable when you have gaming companies issuing statements on political topics.  And it really shouldn't be, at least if you're in the U.S..

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with companies issuing such statements.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zero.  Zilch.  Politics has always been in everything and always will be in everything.  Escapism is only healthy in moderation and I'd be willing to bet, despite your examples of the ubiquity of news today, that most here don't read a lick of news outside of gaming sites (well, maybe they've read some entirely garbage punditry really only fit for Facebook group threads).  Some of the opinions offered in the original thread make that *very* clear.

harken33

Ungood said:

Hey.. Hey.. look at me.. this new thing hit the fan and suddenly I am an expert in Dog Anal Glands... I mean.. whatever the current shit is.

In totally unrelated news, my dog has impacted anal glands, so I need to take her to vet to get her butthole squeezed. Got an appointment set up for Tuesday, I am sure none of us are looking forward to it, but hopefully she will stop dragging her ass on the carpet.

Hey @ungood, while not an expert in dog anal glands I would say I have acquired some knowledge, about $70+ per visit to have them expressed (by a vet tech not even the vet, where I live it’s considered a medical procedure so groomers cannot do it) about $1k-$1200 last year alone. It got to the point we might go twice in the same month and leaving them unattended can lead to infection.

In January the new vet tech fresh out of school mentioned her dog had the same problem and what she did to combat it. If you feed her any wet food daily you can buy some All-Bran Buds (the cereal), depending on her size let a few spoonful’s soak in a little water for 15 minutes then mix it in with the wet food. This will help your dogs stool firm up and should allow them to pop / express their anal glands naturally when they do their business.

We started doing this in January and have had zero scooting /anal gland issues (or trips to the vet) since, whereas I would have spent $500.00 or more by this point.

Anyway, good luck with the appointment.

Scot

TheDalaiBomba said:

Scot said:

Well the upshot of that article is we lost Torval, so now I am pissed off; this is the sort of thing that happens and it just shows how such articles are just going to result in damage to the forum community. That's why we need boundaries as I mentioned.

It is not really avoidable when you have gaming companies issuing statements on political topics.  And it really shouldn't be, at least if you're in the U.S..

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with companies issuing such statements.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zero.  Zilch.  Politics has always been in everything and always will be in everything.  Escapism is only healthy in moderation and I'd be willing to bet, despite your examples of the ubiquity of news today, that most here don't read a lick of news outside of gaming sites (well, maybe they've read some entirely garbage punditry really only fit for Facebook group threads).  Some of the opinions offered in the original thread make that *very* clear.

If people don't wish to read about politics that's their choice and I do think you are speculating about posters habits. I use a politics forum myself, that's what it says on the tin, that's what we do there. The idea coming to these forums is "escapism" with respect is strange, it is just where we talk about games instead of everything else.

Politics is not life, though activists who do not feel that everyone is on board 100% with their agenda have that attitude. Which by definition is why they are activists in the first place. Even most politicians would tell you there is more to life than politics. 

You said "at least if you are in the US", you do realise that the media here has gone in all guns blazing on this? Obviously people here don't vote in US, but that does not matter, the clarion calls must be sounded, every issue is a call for the apocalypse regardless of which side you stand on.

As my own posts are getting political, I will leave it there for this thread.

TheDalaiBomba

Scot said:

TheDalaiBomba said:

Scot said:

Well the upshot of that article is we lost Torval, so now I am pissed off; this is the sort of thing that happens and it just shows how such articles are just going to result in damage to the forum community. That's why we need boundaries as I mentioned.

It is not really avoidable when you have gaming companies issuing statements on political topics.  And it really shouldn't be, at least if you're in the U.S..

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with companies issuing such statements.  Nothing.  Nada.  Zero.  Zilch.  Politics has always been in everything and always will be in everything.  Escapism is only healthy in moderation and I'd be willing to bet, despite your examples of the ubiquity of news today, that most here don't read a lick of news outside of gaming sites (well, maybe they've read some entirely garbage punditry really only fit for Facebook group threads).  Some of the opinions offered in the original thread make that *very* clear.

If people don't wish to read about politics that's their choice and I do think you are speculating about posters habits. I use a politics forum myself, that's what it says on the tin, that's what we do there. The idea coming to these forums is "escapism" with respect is strange, it is just where we talk about games instead of everything else.

Politics is not life, though activists who do not feel that everyone is on board 100% with their agenda have that attitude. Which by definition is why they are activists in the first place. Even most politicians would tell you there is more to life than politics. 

You said "at least if you are in the US", you do realise that the media here has gone in all guns blazing on this? Obviously people here don't vote in US, but that does not matter, the clarion calls must be sounded, every issue is a call for the apocalypse regardless of which side you stand on.

As my own posts are getting political I will leave it there for this thread.

I am speculating based on the evidence presented here.

If people don't want to read about politics and educate themselves, fine.  Then they really should be adults about their ignorance and avoid making comments or participating in politics at any level.

We do not need more ignorant votes or opinions.

Slapshot1188

lahnmir said:

Iselin said:

Slapshot1188 said:

 Even the politicians that are supposed to be the ones addressing this stuff (not a court) reveal a total ignorance of basic concepts related to the US Constitution and the roles of the 3 branches of the government.

Wow. really? Who elected those idiots?

Also I find it fascinating that it's the idiot politicians and not the courts who are supposed to decide what women can and can't do with their bodies.

I might be naive but I always thought it should be the woman and her doctor.

Also, this isn’t about ‘knowing, understanding and trusting the system,’ it is about a decision that gives states the power over a person’s body, and when I say person I of course mean women.

Because this isn’t about promiscuous girls murdering babies. It is about men controlling women, be it through non democratic tricks or the religiously fueled lie that a beating heart automatically equals a life. Had this been about a man’s body this would have never, ever passed.

A decision was made that gives a state the power to take away control of a woman over her own body, just think about that. The above is all somebody has to understand, not previous decisions, not the legal system, just the above. Next step will be forced vasectomies for men and euthanasia for people over the age of seventy five to slow overpopulation down. But fear not, your state knows what they are doing, you just have to trust the system.

I hate topics like these, people get banned, other people decide it is time to show their ugliest side, nobody wins. I’ll see where I end up by the end of the day, whatever.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

I may be mistaken, but I believe you are not from the US.  I'd like to explain why that post is wrong but this is not the place. Again, this is not about what people think is "right" or "wrong" but about the US Constitution (which does contain a mechanism to change it and update it as desired). If you'd like to continue feel free to DM me.

 

Kyleran

TheDalaiBomba said:

Scot said:

Do you need more evidence of the fact we don't want politics on the forums from that thread and now this? I don't see this as about moderation, we can go elsewhere for politics, we don't need to see it steeped in every aspect of our lives.

Even more so today when every issue is given a clarion call of hysteria, both for and against. Obviously I don't want the site doing political articles, but I can see how the staff might feel they need to make a stand or indeed follow "gaming's corporate response". We can start by more clearly saying we don't want this, what we tend to do instead is argue the political point.

With all due respect: politics isn't going away because you'd like to ignore it.


Again, that's one of the biggest problems in general: apathy among citizens.  That fatalistic "they're all the same!" attitude (you can spot it in here from multiple posters already lol, a sad joke) is what the absolute worst of the worst depend on to stay in power.

It's rather sad, seeing so many adults so willingly surrender themselves to the slimiest of politicians' express goal: to sling so much shit you stop paying attention to the real bad stuff.  All out of, let's be honest: abject laziness.  We don't want to research things on our own- we want it boiled down to an article, at most, that reaffirms our own biases.  We don't want to understand the issue- we want to know what our "side" thinks (and yes, you there reading this as a "Fierce Independent" that hates both parties equally: that's still a side and shitting on both parties as if they're identical is both wrong AND still an incredibly lazy side to take).

We really need to be better, people.  We love to play characters that make a difference in their game world.  Characters that do things to help save or help folks, instead of just bitch about stuff with a fatalistic attitude that ensures nothing ever gets better.  I guess we're role-playing those folks because it's a helluva lot easier than actually going out and trying to make a difference in real life.

In all fairness my characters in MMOs tend to solve most problems with extreme violence, even against small animals.

You should see what a .50 cal does to a rad squirrel.

TheDalaiBomba

Kyleran said:

In all fairness my characters in MMOs tend to solve most problems with extreme violence, even against small animals.

You should see what a .50 cal does to a rad squirrel.

Jokes aside, this country literally had a political group try and violently invade the Capitol building because they lost an election, and few seem to give a shit.  Many for the same reason Mr. @Scot listed: they just wanna live their lives without having to listen to politics!  It will be sadly hilarious once politics comes knocking on these people's doors.  How confused they'll be, not even knowing how the landscape changed under their feet while they "just wanted to watch the ballgame."

Or worse: these same people ignore all the reality of current politics, but still feel fit to share their opinions on the current political topic authoritatively.  We've got folks arguing things like "it's not in the Constitution, so they were right to overturn it!" indicating they don't even know the 9th Amendment exists.

To be fair: it's a little bit harder to grasp when folks like Alito apply it very selectively themselves.

If that's not a sign of societal decline, nothing is.

Slapshot1188

TheDalaiBomba said:

Kyleran said:

In all fairness my characters in MMOs tend to solve most problems with extreme violence, even against small animals.

You should see what a .50 cal does to a rad squirrel.

Jokes aside, this country literally had a political group try and violently invade the Capitol building because they lost an election, and few seem to give a shit.  Many for the same reason Mr. @Scot listed: they just wanna live their lives without having to listen to politics!  It will be sadly hilarious once politics comes knocking on these people's doors.  How confused they'll be, not even knowing how the landscape changed under their feet while they "just wanted to watch the ballgame."

Or worse: these same people ignore all the reality of current politics, but still feel fit to share their opinions on the current political topic authoritatively.  We've got folks arguing things like "it's not in the Constitution, so they were right to overturn it!" indicating they don't even know the 9th Amendment exists.

To be fair: it's a little bit harder to grasp when folks like Alito apply it very selectively themselves.

If that's not a sign of societal decline, nothing is.

This is funny. And a great example of why MMORPG was right to lock the post that started this discussion.  Their only mistake was that it didn’t properly lock and thus discussion was started.