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Chris Metzen Returns to Blizzard as Creative Advisor for Warcraft Franchise, Initially Focused on Wo

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edited December 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageChris Metzen Returns to Blizzard as Creative Advisor for Warcraft Franchise, Initially Focused on WoW | MMORPG.com

Chris Metzen has come home to Warcraft. Blizzard announced that Metzen, one of the original leads on the Warcraft franchise, will return as Creative Advisor to the franchise, starting with work on World of Warcraft.

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203
    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.

    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.

    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.

    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.

    /rantoff
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  • qtaqqtaq Member UncommonPosts: 75
    Amazing to me, on another mmmorpg website people are saying its great news, what a damn joke. The man was there during this whole sexual harassment thing, WoW well never be what it once was and bringing back people who allowed the abuse of their employees to come back will not fix it either. Shame on anyone who thinks this was a good hire!!!!! Suppose Chris and Bobby can hold hands now laughing at what just transpired.
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  • giantessfangiantessfan Member UncommonPosts: 185

    IceAge said:

    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.



    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.



    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.



    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.



    /rantoff



    IDK. I have heard the opposite from Youtubers I listen to. That the expansion is great because of the content that is there. Its perfect for leveling alts and doesn't make you do stupid tasks over and over again for hours and hours that lead to nothing because none of it will carry over the the next expansion anyway.
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  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108

    IceAge said:

    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.



    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.



    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.



    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.



    /rantoff



    this is the literal opposite of what most people have been saying. the general consensus is that this has been one of their better expansions
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  • corrosivechainscorrosivechains Member UncommonPosts: 50

    Valentina said:



    IceAge said:


    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.





    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.





    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.





    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.





    /rantoff






    this is the literal opposite of what most people have been saying. the general consensus is that this has been one of their better expansions



    If that were true, they wouldn't be bringing back Metzen. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,047
    Valentina said:

    IceAge said:

    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.



    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.



    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.



    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.



    /rantoff



    this is the literal opposite of what most people have been saying. the general consensus is that this has been one of their better expansions
    Dragon flight is up there with Legion and MoP as one of the best expansions WoW has had. The only thing holding it back is a lot of bugs, it's not nearly as polished as other expansions.

    Metzen is just in a creative consultant role, nothing major. The creating team will show Metzen what story ideas they have, he will give his notes and that will be it.

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  • xdave78xdave78 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Thrall returns? o_O
  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Maybe good, maybe bad.  Bring back a past luminary is a sign of struggle, ask Disney.  However, the ability to run a company and the ability to turn a company around are not the same skillset.  I don't know enough about him to know, but hopefully he'll be able to help the franchise.

  • theGnadetheGnade Member UncommonPosts: 147

    Smeaghoul said:



    IceAge said:


    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.





    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.





    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.





    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.





    /rantoff






    I'm enjoying DF and most people I talk too think it's one of the best expansion in a long time, perspective I guess.



    I bet those people are also then ones who enjoyed previous garbage expansions. What matters is the opinion of people who played good expansions like WotlK. If you have people with low quality bar then it is obvious that they enjoy DF. If previous expansion score was -24 and DF is -5, then obviously it is better, but it is only better as long as you compared it to worse expansion.
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  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 859
    Dragonflight is one of the better expansions Blizzard has put out in a long time, personally, I think even in comparison to Legion. Which is usually considered to be one of the top three expansions released.

    I played WoW hardcore for roughly 10 years then sporadically after that. Played each of the expansions for at least a little bit on their release. DF is fun, respects my time, it's easy to gear, easy to gear alts, etc. It's the first time in a LONG time in any MMO that I've felt like it's not a burden to login to do daily chores. I just don't feel obligated to do them in order to keep up.
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,490
    Well, there's always Final Fantasy XIV Online if people become too polarized.

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,203

    Smeaghoul said:



    IceAge said:


    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.





    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.





    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.





    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.





    /rantoff






    I'm enjoying DF and most people I talk too think it's one of the best expansion in a long time, perspective I guess.



    Yup, and if I ask every each of you ( same as I did in BfA and Shadowlands ) to tell me what exactly makes it one of the best expansion, you will all say "there are are lots of things do to in this expansion". I will then say again to be more specific ..but you will fail to tell me what exactly makes it one of THE best ..

    Listen, I'm all for a good expansion, but there is literally, and I mean literally, zero new content in DF. Legion had Artefacts, Legendaries, World Quests, M+ for the very first time.

    Even BfA had War Fronts and Island Expeditions as new content. Shadowlands had The Maw and Torghas. Yes, the last 2 were a big fail because how this new content was "polished" , but DF, again, has literally zero content. None. World Quests , this time updated once a week lol, and M+ and Raids. This are.. the norm since Vanilla.

    Half the dungeons are weak from my POV. Shadowlands had better. The story ( sorry, "story" ) , is astonishing weak. I have no idea who dragon is X or Y or why the centaurs are there. I leveled from 60-70 in .... 10 or less hours? with basically barely put foot on land. I could not connect to any new zone, npc, or ..alike. I don't care about the new zones, which is sad in a MMO or in an expansion.

    It will 100% go down faster then Shadowlands.

    And as always, this is thanks to Ion.....
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  • EldrachEldrach Member RarePosts: 465
    Metzens return..dunno, he’s a great artist - but he was there during some of the most boring expansions as well. 

    As for Dragonflight - i enjoy it, love the talent trees, love the dragonriding, the crafting is wonderfully confusing, content is a bit light - but leveling is fun, i’ll make a few alts - which i think will be fun as compared to shadowlands, where i just couldn’t bear leveling all over again
  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,047
    xdave78 said:
    Thrall returns? o_O

    Thrall ...never left?

    Thrall was in the latter half of Battle for Azeroth and a major character in Shadowlands.
  • corrosivechainscorrosivechains Member UncommonPosts: 50
    Just to put things into a bit of perspective, after Shadowlands flopped they hyped "the next expansion" before they announced what it was as "Danuser's baby" and how great it'd be now they were free of the shackles of the evil drunk guy...and a month after Dragonflight releases they drove a few dump trucks full of money over to Metzen's house begging him to come back.

    So yeah, that doesn't sell the "it's as good as Legion" narrative.
  • UrdenUrden Member UncommonPosts: 51




    Valentina said:





    IceAge said:



    Nothing can save Retail......except if Ion is fired.







    DF is one of the most soulless expansion i've ever played. Plus, it has zero new content. It will go down faster than Shadowlands.







    Ion managed to release 3 expansions in a raw as the worst expansions in WoW history. Whoever kept Ion this long needs to also be fired.







    WHO the heck keeps a person this long when all the data shows that he's action have directly impacted the subs, revenue, etc?! If it wasn't for Classic, TBC, WoTLK it would of been very bad for Blizzard.







    /rantoff









    this is the literal opposite of what most people have been saying. the general consensus is that this has been one of their better expansions






    If that were true, they wouldn't be bringing back Metzen. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.



    Most people I talk to who play it, love it. I am one of them. There will always be people unhappy, I guess your one of them.
  • waveslayerwaveslayer Member UncommonPosts: 608
    heres another one for enjoying the expansion, yes dragon riding is good IMO

    For the ppl who dont like it, cool...there are thousands of games out there, go play something else, tried lots of games people loved and I didnt care for or get why they liked them, and guess what? I didnt spend 1 second on forums for the game to tell others how bad the game was and that they sucked becuase I dont like the game and I am great and above them in some manner.
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  • nyxiumnyxium Member UncommonPosts: 1,345
    Blizz: "Please save us. Microsoft is killing our reputation but we want that deal so bad and now we are just churning out anything. I mean we have had dragons in every WoW release but now all we can think of is doing dragons. Save us please Metz!"

    Metzen: "Nope."

    Blizz: "Aw go on, it's for WoW. Please Thrall!"

    Metzen: "Oh alright then. Lok'tar!"
  • fineflufffinefluff Member RarePosts: 561
    I feel like I can't get into WoW again because the overall story seems kind of incoherent. I think at the end of cataclysm the dragonflights gave up their powers and immortality to stop deathwing but now they seem to have their powers back? It feels like the sacrifices the characters make has no weight because Blizzard keeps reversing it. It puts me off of playing again. I don't know whether they can do anything to fix that, even with Chris Metzen.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,015
    Wow ran into the same issues that both of the Everquest games did: Too many expansions.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,843

    nyxium said:

    Blizz: "Please save us. Microsoft is killing our reputation but we want that deal so bad and now we are just churning out anything. I mean we have had dragons in every WoW release but now all we can think of is doing dragons. Save us please Metz!"



    Metzen: "Nope."



    Blizz: "Aw go on, it's for WoW. Please Thrall!"



    Metzen: "Oh alright then. Lok'tar!"



    That's pretty funny. Microsoft is killing their reputation? Microsoft?? I'm pretty sure all that business about sexual harassment, crunch time, Diablo Immortal, etc had nothing to do with Microsoft.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    Angrakhan said:

    nyxium said:

    Blizz: "Please save us. Microsoft is killing our reputation but we want that deal so bad and now we are just churning out anything. I mean we have had dragons in every WoW release but now all we can think of is doing dragons. Save us please Metz!"



    Metzen: "Nope."



    Blizz: "Aw go on, it's for WoW. Please Thrall!"



    Metzen: "Oh alright then. Lok'tar!"



    That's pretty funny. Microsoft is killing their reputation? Microsoft?? I'm pretty sure all that business about sexual harassment, crunch time, Diablo Immortal, etc had nothing to do with Microsoft.
    Exactly disgusting people in high positions. They did this to themselves and haven't changed one iota.

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