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Activision Blizzard Won't Recognize Proletariat Unionization, Sending Dispute to the NLRB | MMORPG.c

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501
    Sometimes different unions are different.  I don't think that you could credibly argue that the pro sports players unions are full of players who are merely trying not to get fired.  Of course, those unions tend to push for free agency that allows players to get paid what they're worth on the open market, rather than insisting that everyone's salary depends only on seniority.
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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,572
    edited January 2023


    "Proletariat’s own official statement from yesterday, January 9th, states that they submitted a request for an anonymous voting process over unionization."



    Now I haven't followed this very closely but was the first vote not anonymous?
    If they did a "card-check" that's just sleezy.



    That's because your left leaning socialist/communist types don't believe in anonymity. They have to make sure everyone falls in line with their group think since group rights always trump (no pun intended) individual rights. If you were to allow an anonymous vote then it leaves it open to people freely expressing themselves and defeating the agenda.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,065
    Quizzical said:
    Sometimes different unions are different.  I don't think that you could credibly argue that the pro sports players unions are full of players who are merely trying not to get fired.  Of course, those unions tend to push for free agency that allows players to get paid what they're worth on the open market, rather than insisting that everyone's salary depends only on seniority.
    Agreed, not all unions are run by Jimmy Hoffa's son, James P but the Teamsters were for over 20 years until his last term expired in early 2022.

    The CWA hasn't historically been influenced much by mob but they have had multiple corruption incidents (embezzlement of funds mostly) at the local level.

    CORRUPTION AND EMBEZZLEMENT CHARGES
    Type of Criminal Activity / Number of Incidents

    criminal charges 68
    embezzlement charges 100
    Guilty Pleas 105
    Indictments 33
    Officials Sentenced 69
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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member EpicPosts: 1,310
    I get the need for unions with jobs in which the safety of the workers changes by the second. I was a union Ironworker. As a union, we self regulated a strong work ethic to justify a prevailing wage... and it was no joke. It's easily been the hardest job I've ever had. It's an incredibly dangerous job and having union representation was very important to the workers so their safety wasn't compromised.

    That said, a Hostess bakers union or some other union that artificially inflates the wages of the job your performing is garbage and a cesspool of corruption.
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,501
    Kyleran said:
    Quizzical said:






    Good on Blizzard, #F unions




    doing the minimum required to not get fired from their job.



    A job hires you to do X at a job, if the minimum to not get fired is satisfying the X condition that's just called doing the job you were hired to do you exploited twit. If you are doing more than the minimum and not receiving additional compensation then you are exactly the perfect slave and the reason why collective bargaining is so necessary.
    If you're never doing anything more than the bare minimum not to get fired, then why should your employer ever promote you or give you a raise?  If there are layoffs, why shouldn't you be the first one gone?

    The many millions of people who can be bothered to care if they do their job well are the ones who make society work.  A society of people who were only trying not to get fired would quickly collapse.
    It did collapse, was called the USSR, you might have heard of it.

    ;)
    They weren't just trying not to get fired.  They were trying not to get sent to the gulags.  But yeah, people not having any incentive to do excellent work as opposed to mediocre didn't work out very well.
    Slapshot1188
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