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Chat GPT WoW add on voices every NPC in WoW

NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
This is pretty slick.


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  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,400
    wow this is pretty cool. Imagine some of the more intense quest
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    edited April 2023
    wow this is pretty cool. Imagine some of the more intense quest
    Yes, people have been playing around with Morrowind and full Voiceover. And all those Dagoth Ur meme videos. Which I like, won't lie.
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  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    AITA for despising this kind of content? MMORPGs are meant to be social, and these days almost everyone spends their entire gaming session in Discord. This kind of end game content gets in the way of that kind of cross communication. "Whoops sorry gang can't listen to you for a minute, some poxy NPC has to tell me his entire fucking life story that I could have just read in about ten seconds." I hated it in SW TOR I'd hate it in Wow or anything else. Now in a single player RPG I'd find it more acceptable but I think I'd still just prefer the old school reading the quest my damned self.

    Maybe its just because I come from the era where voice in games was a massive rarity.... and we were happier damn it *slaps self*


  • fineflufffinefluff Member RarePosts: 561
    AITA for despising this kind of content? MMORPGs are meant to be social, and these days almost everyone spends their entire gaming session in Discord. This kind of end game content gets in the way of that kind of cross communication. "Whoops sorry gang can't listen to you for a minute, some poxy NPC has to tell me his entire fucking life story that I could have just read in about ten seconds." I hated it in SW TOR I'd hate it in Wow or anything else. Now in a single player RPG I'd find it more acceptable but I think I'd still just prefer the old school reading the quest my damned self.

    Maybe its just because I come from the era where voice in games was a massive rarity.... and we were happier damn it *slaps self*


    I spend most of my time playing alone, so I'm not being social whether there is voice acting or not lol. 

    But I can see why you feel that way. Having a "cinematic" story experience with voice acting and cutscenes incentivizes players to disengage from each other to engage with the story. Though, there's many who prefer it, such as people who complain that FFXIV is not completely voice acted.

    AI generated voice acting could also make for a worse experience if it sounds unnatural, flat, or inconsistent (i.e., if you can tell its AI). 

    Personally, I think would prefer human voice acting even if AI voice acting was good because knowing that the voice was from another person makes it feel more authentic and maybe even more immersive, somehow.

    But maybe no voice acting really is the best of all, since you give the characters a fitting voice in your head. Still, I think this is a cool project.
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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,077
    So... the text isn't synthesized, but the voices are?  That's pretty impressive, either way.  I really wonder about the nuts and bolts of giving every single NPC a unique timbre.  The emotion of the dialog really came through, as well.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    AITA for despising this kind of content? MMORPGs are meant to be social, and these days almost everyone spends their entire gaming session in Discord. This kind of end game content gets in the way of that kind of cross communication. "Whoops sorry gang can't listen to you for a minute, some poxy NPC has to tell me his entire fucking life story that I could have just read in about ten seconds." I hated it in SW TOR I'd hate it in Wow or anything else. Now in a single player RPG I'd find it more acceptable but I think I'd still just prefer the old school reading the quest my damned self.

    Maybe its just because I come from the era where voice in games was a massive rarity.... and we were happier damn it *slaps self*


    I think that's just you. Voiced NPCs are a staple of modern games and when they're not voiced the game just feels like some ancient ass relic to me.

    I have zero problems using Discord while playing a game with voiced NPCs. Maybe your Discord is extra chatty?
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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    Afaik this has nothing to do with ChatGPT, they are using ElevenLabs Voice AI

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/11i06mo/i_used_elevenlabs_voice_ai_to_generate_voice
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,485
    He really wanted Bartleby's mug. Ahh the good ol' days of stupid simple noobie quests.
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Vrika said:
    Afaik this has nothing to do with ChatGPT, they are using ElevenLabs Voice AI

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/11i06mo/i_used_elevenlabs_voice_ai_to_generate_voice
    Pretty much. It was already tested before with Skyrim, now it seems they are taking it a bit further.

    You can test the AI voiced texts yourselves, just type in whatever you want and select the voice type you want to use.

  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    Iselin said:
    AITA for despising this kind of content? MMORPGs are meant to be social, and these days almost everyone spends their entire gaming session in Discord. This kind of end game content gets in the way of that kind of cross communication. "Whoops sorry gang can't listen to you for a minute, some poxy NPC has to tell me his entire fucking life story that I could have just read in about ten seconds." I hated it in SW TOR I'd hate it in Wow or anything else. Now in a single player RPG I'd find it more acceptable but I think I'd still just prefer the old school reading the quest my damned self.

    Maybe its just because I come from the era where voice in games was a massive rarity.... and we were happier damn it *slaps self*


    I think that's just you. Voiced NPCs are a staple of modern games and when they're not voiced the game just feels like some ancient ass relic to me.

    I have zero problems using Discord while playing a game with voiced NPCs. Maybe your Discord is extra chatty?


    Well being a hoary old relic myself probably does not help, combined with the issue of my friends in Discord don't all speak one universal language could certainly contribute to the problem. 
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,609
    edited April 2023
    Iselin said:
    AITA for despising this kind of content? MMORPGs are meant to be social, and these days almost everyone spends their entire gaming session in Discord. This kind of end game content gets in the way of that kind of cross communication. "Whoops sorry gang can't listen to you for a minute, some poxy NPC has to tell me his entire fucking life story that I could have just read in about ten seconds." I hated it in SW TOR I'd hate it in Wow or anything else. Now in a single player RPG I'd find it more acceptable but I think I'd still just prefer the old school reading the quest my damned self.

    Maybe its just because I come from the era where voice in games was a massive rarity.... and we were happier damn it *slaps self*


    I think that's just you. Voiced NPCs are a staple of modern games and when they're not voiced the game just feels like some ancient ass relic to me.

    I have zero problems using Discord while playing a game with voiced NPCs. Maybe your Discord is extra chatty?
    I don't have anything against no voice acting(or minimal like in Morrowind). Know what I heavily dislike though? Partial voice acting. When random parts are voice acted(Pillars 1 and Tyranny iirc). I mean ... ??? .
  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,094
    I can read a lot faster than people talk, so there really is no point.

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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239
    I never read the NPC quest chat in WoW anyway (or indeed in most games) because most of it is just waffle anyway.  I click the NPC, accept quest, immediately exit and just follow the marker for them.  It's a great concept, hearing it read aloud, but since I don't bother reading the NPC text anyway, hearing it read would be even more irritating, so this isn't something I personally will ever use.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    I am quite partial to stories and text and voices are a nice touch. I even listen to ARPG stories which are notoriously not what they are known for. I just like to know everything about what I am playing and feel like I am actually interested in the game world. 

    After all I am playing the game why not listen to their stories like I enjoyed the Grim Dawn and I still listen to the conversations 5 toons later. It's like a package deal and I am in no hurry so why not.

  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Dibdabs said:
    I never read the NPC quest chat in WoW anyway (or indeed in most games) because most of it is just waffle anyway.  I click the NPC, accept quest, immediately exit and just follow the marker for them.  It's a great concept, hearing it read aloud, but since I don't bother reading the NPC text anyway, hearing it read would be even more irritating, so this isn't something I personally will ever use.
    I admit to doing this as well. 

    With something like this AI voice quests I think it would make the whole game more immersive and I would enjoy playing it at a slower pace and having all the quests voiced. Plus it's a mod it's not like it's forced on you it's just something people could enjoy if they wanted to.

    I think this would be great as a flavor and immersion add on. Not to mention the possibilities for indie devs who can't hire a bunch of voice actors.

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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    When will developers learn that most people consume things like voice-overs and animated movies once, and only once?  Where's the Watch/Listen first-time only option?  Additional times are just wasting my time.






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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Mendel said:
    When will developers learn that most people consume things like voice-overs and animated movies once, and only once?  Where's the Watch/Listen first-time only option?  Additional times are just wasting my time.






    Are there still games that won't let you skip it if you don't want to hear it?

    I can't remember the last time I couldn't skip it in a game. Must be decades ago.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    Dibdabs said:
    I never read the NPC quest chat in WoW anyway (or indeed in most games) because most of it is just waffle anyway.  I click the NPC, accept quest, immediately exit and just follow the marker for them.  It's a great concept, hearing it read aloud, but since I don't bother reading the NPC text anyway, hearing it read would be even more irritating, so this isn't something I personally will ever use.

    I hit the ESC key as fast as possible to get through both voice chat and text chat on quests....I enjoyed  talking with other players, AI chat I have no interest at all......
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  • annigerardannigerard Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    I mean people with accessibility issues and otherwise had been asking for TTS voiceover features for quite some time now, so this was a good addition. I remember in January I was commenting on a forum on how to integrate an external text to speech reader codes with the OS/applications to get automated voiceovers. Some ideas failed but some worked. Good to see this addition.
  • mekheremekhere Member UncommonPosts: 273
    I prefer a real people and real conversation and a headset. If I can buy mercenaries and create my own 8man, I should be able to talk to them like real people and run my group of mercenaries with voice commands, or what you would call AI conversation. Come to think of it, what a way to bring old era PvP back. Then you can really flex that IQ in everyone's face. It ain't easy running 8mans by yourself. Only the master's will truly shine.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,837
    Is it really AI if it's just doing text to speech? We've had that technology for years, but now suddenly it's "AI"? I think people are throwing around that term just to jump on a bandwagon far more than any actual AI being present. There's more to AI than just writing a program. Some sort of machine learning is supposed to be taking place.
  • mekheremekhere Member UncommonPosts: 273
    Well, if AI can learn how to have real conversations like we talk to each other in an 8man group, we can teach AI to take voice commands and create a new kind of pvp strategy game. Essentially group leader against group leader and it will be as immersive as it gets. It should satisfy the immersive crowd and create a challenge only busy minds crave. Organizing absolute in game chaos. 
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  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Angrakhan said:
    Is it really AI if it's just doing text to speech? We've had that technology for years, but now suddenly it's "AI"? I think people are throwing around that term just to jump on a bandwagon far more than any actual AI being present. There's more to AI than just writing a program. Some sort of machine learning is supposed to be taking place.

    Oh, it absolutely is taking place and it 100% is AI in this case. That's not to say that in too many cases these days it is nothing more than a buzzword, but this one's genuine.

    Talking about WoW specifically, this addon's output comes with many quirks that you would expect from an AI, but the quality in general in not even comparable to previous text to speech generators. Dwarves and gnomes in particular are so awesomely voiced by the AI, it is a joy to listen to them.

    On a more general AI voice note, I posted it in an earlier thread, but you will find this youtube channel useful if you want to see what an AI can do and how much it differs from traditional algorithms. The guy generates WH40k lore videos with David Attenborough's voice. Needless to say, such a feat would be impossible without AI (unless you kidnapped DA himself and forced him to narrate game videos).

    Have a listen to this example:




  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Angrakhan said:
    Is it really AI if it's just doing text to speech? We've had that technology for years, but now suddenly it's "AI"? I think people are throwing around that term just to jump on a bandwagon far more than any actual AI being present. There's more to AI than just writing a program. Some sort of machine learning is supposed to be taking place.
    Machine learning has been used to teach it to do text to speech.

    We've had different text to speech technologies for decades, but this one has been taught with machine learning, so it's an AI.
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