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Upgrade advice please.

B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
Hi all! I'm wanting to know what would be the best upgrade. Im currently have a Amd 3600, 16gigs 3600 ddr4, rx 6750xt. B550 pro MB

Looking to perform better in 1440p. Thanks.

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited April 2023
    What kind of FPS you're aiming to get? If you're happy with playing games at 60 FPS, then buy a better GPU and the rest of your system is fine.

    EDIT: Actually on second though, if you're happy with 1440p and 60 FPS then your current system should already be able to do that in nearly all games?
    Andemnon
     
  • B14cKs0LB14cKs0L Member UncommonPosts: 152
    I seem to like more cpu heavy games like X4: Foundations
     where the CPU needs to process a lot of scripts. I just did a bottleneck google search and it seems the 5700x with my 6750xt is only a 1% bottle neck at 1440p 60fps. 

    So I'm thinking Ill pick that up with 32gigs just cause it cheep. Also I'll be getting the 3600 cl18 as have read that works best with AMD CPU's vs the 2800 cl16. Am I on point here? Thanks all!
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    B14cKs0L said:
    I seem to like more cpu heavy games like X4: Foundations
     where the CPU needs to process a lot of scripts. I just did a bottleneck google search and it seems the 5700x with my 6750xt is only a 1% bottle neck at 1440p 60fps. 

    So I'm thinking Ill pick that up with 32gigs just cause it cheep. Also I'll be getting the 3600 cl18 as have read that works best with AMD CPU's vs the 2800 cl16. Am I on point here? Thanks all!
    X4 is is apparently heavily CPU dependent, and it looks like it's one of the games which can bring any CPU to its knees.

    Here's a large thread of people talking about it:
      https://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=146&t=427248
     
  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    You really wouldn't benefit from an upgrade right now aside from memory. 
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    Cleffy said:
    You really wouldn't benefit from an upgrade right now aside from memory. 
    X4 looks like it's a special case: The game is simulating a huge universe, and once you've played it far enough the universe has so much stuff happening that no CPU can run it properly.

    If the OP were to switch to newest generation CPU (something like Ryzen 7600X or I5-13600KF), he might be able to get like +50% FPS from the generation upgrade.

    That would mean also buying a new motherboard + RAM, so it'd be hell of an expensive upgrade for a single game in a situation where his current CPU is still good for most games.
     
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Do you want to spend a bunch of money to upgrade your system for one particular game?  Maybe you do if you like that game enough.  But as it stands, your system is fairly balanced.  If it's just generally too slow and not an upgrade for some particular game, then you'd probably want to look at replacing your computer rather than upgrading.  But that probably isn't appropriate in your case, as it's still a nice computer.

    More memory only helps if you're running out.  You can check that fairly directly.  Open Task Manager when you're getting low frame rates and see how much memory you're using.  If you've got several GB free, then adding more memory isn't going to help.  If you're running out of memory, then there's your problem.

    Depending on your exact motherboard, you can probably upgrade your CPU without needing to upgrade anything else.  That would only get you to one generation newer, but the latest generation requires a different CPU socket and memory type, so you'd need to replace the motherboard and memory, too, which is why I say that you'd need to think replacement rather than upgrade.

    If you're playing games that scale well to many CPU cores and need a ton of CPU power, then you can get more cores, not just a newer CPU.  A Ryzen 7 5700X can be had for around $200, and gets you eight cores rather than six, as well as faster cores.

    Alternatively, you could upgrade further and get a Ryzen 9 5900X or Ryzen 7 5800X3D for around $350.  The former has 12 cores and the latter has 96 MB of L3 cache.  But the effects of extra cache are very hit and miss, as are the effects of adding more CPU cores.  More cores is mostly miss as gaming goes, but if you're playing a game that scales well to many CPU cores, then that's the way to go.
    AndemnonArglebargle
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