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Diablo IV Devs Talk All the Variety Up to and Including Endgame, From Dungeons to PvP | MMORPG.com

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edited April 2023 in News & Features Discussion

imageDiablo IV Devs Talk All the Variety Up to and Including Endgame, From Dungeons to PvP | MMORPG.com

With the recent Diablo IV beta weekends behind us, and a June 6th launch on the way, the team is revealing a taste of endgame and the variety they've packed in,from nightmare dungeons to PvP.

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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    IselinIceAgeAsm0deusFrodoFragins
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.
    IceAgeCelciusemperorhades1ValentinaOldKingLogultimateduck
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Paragons capped at 200,,, best thing ever! A big fuck you to the D3 botters.
    ultimateduck
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,585
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?

    I do have a phone, but not a cell phone. I also have DIV and expect to enjoy it greatly on release based on what I've been able to play so far and my extended enjoyment of most previous Diablo games.
  • unfilteredJWunfilteredJW Member RarePosts: 398
    Clowns have no idea why people play these games.

    I'm a MUDder. I play MUDs.

    Current: Dragonrealms

  • ashiru_1978ashiru_1978 Member RarePosts: 818


    Clowns have no idea why people play these games.



    People have no idea why clowns play these games?
    ultimateduck
  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,585
    Clowns are people too, and there is a good chance some of them will be playing Diablo IV.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,843
    Other than addressing the balance issues present in the betas, I really look forward to the launch. Blizzard certainly has some work to do but there's time, and I rather doubt what we played for the betas was the latest internal build of the game. Proof will be in the pudding!
  • LamiaCritterLamiaCritter Member UncommonPosts: 94
    Please don't tell me that PVP crap will be necessary and that we don't risk getting ganked just for travelling through common dungeons and zones.
    emperorhades1
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2023
    Please don't tell me that PVP crap will be necessary and that we don't risk getting ganked just for travelling through common dungeons and zones.
    PVP crap is not necessary and you don't risk getting ganked traveling through common dungeons and zones.
    emperorhades1
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    edited April 2023
    Don't think I'll pay the increased price for this one.

    Don't get me wrong- the increased price is not exorbitant considering inflation. But to this company, for a game I don't see myself playing beyond the campaign?  Can't justify that price tag.

    I'm sure it'll eventually be on sale, likely with additional content, more polish, and better balance.
    emperorhades1Kimo
  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779


    Please don't tell me that PVP crap will be necessary and that we don't risk getting ganked just for travelling through common dungeons and zones.



    Don't worry they will remove the PvP prior to launch, then keep saying it's coming and just never release it like they did with 3.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2023


    Please don't tell me that PVP crap will be necessary and that we don't risk getting ganked just for travelling through common dungeons and zones.



    Don't worry they will remove the PvP prior to launch, then keep saying it's coming and just never release it like they did with 3.
    That would be great. It would stop 99% of the whining about class balance.

    I PvP in a lot of games and I have never expected it to be 100% or even 80% balanced, but these days any PvP game with different classes and builds is flooded with crying about balance.

    Worse, some developers respond to it and start balancing the game around the PvP.

    I'd hate to see that same old shit here in a game where PvP is just a minor side thing.
    Asm0deusemperorhades1OldKingLog
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • losthewarlosthewar Member UncommonPosts: 132
    Diablo 3.5 was a let down
    emperorhades1
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 421

    Iselin said:



    So to summarize.



    Hell Tide = Terror zone.

    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties

    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.

    Fields of whatever = PVP



    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?



    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.



    If you see anything that isnt truth in that first post let me know. Fanboy haters going to hate. Carry on.
  • richrem1richrem1 Member UncommonPosts: 198
    I think balancing classes is difficult. In the end, it's a matter of math. I can't even imagine trying to do it myself. I think the goal is to get the damage, on average, to equal out every 30 seconds (or some other arbitrary time frame), in comparison. Good luck with that.
  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    i dont see the 70 dollar price tag being justified here.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,057
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP


    Some posters may not like it, but this is 100% accurate. 

    What made Hell Tides bad, during the end game beta, was that there was a limited number of chests available at the end.  Meaning you'd spend minutes trying to find them before the Hell Tide ended and often the ones you found had already been taken.  And if you weren't able to spend the currency on chests during the tide, the currency disappeared.  Meaning if you log in late there's no point to doing one.

    This leads to the other issues, which was sitting and waiting for another to spawn.

    The Tree of whispers gets old REALLY fast and the dungeons were all pretty uninspired.
  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108

    Kratier said:

    i dont see the 70 dollar price tag being justified here.



    the 70 dollar price tag is becoming the industry standard, justified or not that's what all AAA games will be priced at.
  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    Iselin said:
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.

    Ever since the cash grab bullshit that was Diablo Immoral Blizzard is dead to me. I doubt I'll ever buy another game from them. I had zero intention of mentioning any of this here but people smack talking the game seem to get so far up your nose I just couldn't resist. Blizzard sucks, neener neener neener. :D


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2023
    Iselin said:
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.

    Ever since the cash grab bullshit that was Diablo Immoral Blizzard is dead to me. I doubt I'll ever buy another game from them. I had zero intention of mentioning any of this here but people smack talking the game seem to get so far up your nose I just couldn't resist. Blizzard sucks, neener neener neener. :D


    Diablo Immortal was a P2W piece of shit and I was one of the first here to explain what they were doing with details when most of you didn't have a clue.

    But I don't cancel studios since they are all greedy motherfuckers and all that canceling one would do is keep me from playing their occasional good release. I'm selfish like that.

    I also don't believe most of the self-professed studio boycotters since they are just doing some messed up version of gamer virtue-signaling for interwebs street cred.

    Just look at all the ones who hate all Blizzard things EXCEPT for their precious, D2.

    So neener, neener, right back at you. :)
    ultimateduck
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 601
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.

    Ever since the cash grab bullshit that was Diablo Immoral Blizzard is dead to me. I doubt I'll ever buy another game from them. I had zero intention of mentioning any of this here but people smack talking the game seem to get so far up your nose I just couldn't resist. Blizzard sucks, neener neener neener. :D


    Diablo Immortal was a P2W piece of shit and I was one of the first here to explain what they were doing with details when most of you didn't have a clue.

    But I don't cancel studios since they are all greedy motherfuckers and all that canceling one would do is keep me from playing their occasional good release. I'm selfish like that.

    I also don't believe most of the self-professed studio boycotters since they are just doing some messed up version of gamer virtue-signaling for interwebs street cred.

    Just look at all the ones who hate all Blizzard things EXCEPT for their precious, D2.

    So neener, neener, right back at you. :)

    Oh man *sarcastic snigger* Did you seriously take my lighthearted swipe at your Blizzard hero worship as serious criticism!? Honestly I think you need to reevaluate your own life's priorities before you start to school me on mine.

    And seriously do you fucking dare to justify the total whoring out of a once beloved gaming studio with one game Diablo Immortal as the new norm because all these companies are greedy dicks? Wow, I have to say one of us in this conversation needs to seriously grow the fuck up. And I'm deeply disturbed to find out in this instance that person ISN'T ME!!
    Iselin
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.

    Ever since the cash grab bullshit that was Diablo Immoral Blizzard is dead to me. I doubt I'll ever buy another game from them. I had zero intention of mentioning any of this here but people smack talking the game seem to get so far up your nose I just couldn't resist. Blizzard sucks, neener neener neener. :D


    Diablo Immortal was a P2W piece of shit and I was one of the first here to explain what they were doing with details when most of you didn't have a clue.

    But I don't cancel studios since they are all greedy motherfuckers and all that canceling one would do is keep me from playing their occasional good release. I'm selfish like that.

    I also don't believe most of the self-professed studio boycotters since they are just doing some messed up version of gamer virtue-signaling for interwebs street cred.

    Just look at all the ones who hate all Blizzard things EXCEPT for their precious, D2.

    So neener, neener, right back at you. :)

    Oh man *sarcastic snigger* Did you seriously take my lighthearted swipe at your Blizzard hero worship as serious criticism!? Honestly I think you need to reevaluate your own life's priorities before you start to school me on mine.

    And seriously do you fucking dare to justify the total whoring out of a once beloved gaming studio with one game Diablo Immortal as the new norm because all these companies are greedy dicks? Wow, I have to say one of us in this conversation needs to seriously grow the fuck up. And I'm deeply disturbed to find out in this instance that person ISN'T ME!!
    But I had a smiley face just like you.

    Can dish it out but can't take it, eh?
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,675
    edited April 2023
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    Iselin said:
    So to summarize.

    Hell Tide = Terror zone.
    Tree of Whispers = Doing Bounties
    Nightmare dungeons = Doing higher lvl dungeons, but instead of being greater rifts, you have to horse over to them.
    Fields of whatever = PVP

    100 lvls of this fun. What more can you ask for? Do you all have phones?
    So I take it we won't have to read your nonsense in D4 threads because you won't be playing it?

    Oh wait... I forgot about obsessive hate for shit you don't play... carry on.

    Ever since the cash grab bullshit that was Diablo Immoral Blizzard is dead to me. I doubt I'll ever buy another game from them. I had zero intention of mentioning any of this here but people smack talking the game seem to get so far up your nose I just couldn't resist. Blizzard sucks, neener neener neener. :D


    Diablo Immortal was a P2W piece of shit and I was one of the first here to explain what they were doing with details when most of you didn't have a clue.

    But I don't cancel studios since they are all greedy motherfuckers and all that canceling one would do is keep me from playing their occasional good release. I'm selfish like that.

    I also don't believe most of the self-professed studio boycotters since they are just doing some messed up version of gamer virtue-signaling for interwebs street cred.

    Just look at all the ones who hate all Blizzard things EXCEPT for their precious, D2.

    So neener, neener, right back at you. :)

    Oh man *sarcastic snigger* Did you seriously take my lighthearted swipe at your Blizzard hero worship as serious criticism!? Honestly I think you need to reevaluate your own life's priorities before you start to school me on mine.

    And seriously do you fucking dare to justify the total whoring out of a once beloved gaming studio with one game Diablo Immortal as the new norm because all these companies are greedy dicks? Wow, I have to say one of us in this conversation needs to seriously grow the fuck up. And I'm deeply disturbed to find out in this instance that person ISN'T ME!!
    But I had a smiley face just like you.

    Can dish it out but can't take it, eh?

    I'm not understanding the arguing here. I dont think DI was actually bad gameplay wise. The thing most people were upset with about it was as you eluded to, it having so many p2w systems. So comparing D4 to DI isn't really an insult as some people think it is. Just like how lost ark isn't a bad game in terms of gameplay, it just suffers from horrible systems that heavily encourage pay to advance.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Dattelis said:
    So comparing D4 to DI isn't really an insult as some people think it is.
    It is almost always used as a way to dismissively bash D4.

    Gameplay wise it had some strengths but it was a bad game because it perverted the core of ARPGs and why we all play them when they made progression P2W.

    These games are nothing without an enjoyable progression system and DI was a piece of shit because it killed that unless you opened your wallet and opened way wide.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

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