I agree with your post 110%. Its amazing what people who write reviews, post about games and judge some games for, will, at the same time, overlook in other games. The pile of %$#@ games I have on my computer because I bought into the early access hype is immense. Some of these games have been in development for YEARS but thats fine with their horrible controls, graphics and mechanics. And games can right the ship. I would argue that Cyberpunk is now one of the best games ever but when it launched it was not. However, it took time but at least its not claiming to be something its not.
Funny how you are complainig about all the people that shill games that are bad and ignore major problems in game, yet here you are 110% agreement with someone doing that exact thing. Yeah that somehow makes sense.
Excellent review that doesn't pull punches or go hysterical from someone who played the game to 100% (reviewing after 100% is what this guy does.)
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I agree with your post 110%. Its amazing what people who write reviews, post about games and judge some games for, will, at the same time, overlook in other games. The pile of %$#@ games I have on my computer because I bought into the early access hype is immense. Some of these games have been in development for YEARS but thats fine with their horrible controls, graphics and mechanics. And games can right the ship. I would argue that Cyberpunk is now one of the best games ever but when it launched it was not. However, it took time but at least its not claiming to be something its not.
Funny how you are complainig about all the people that shill games that are bad and ignore major problems in game, yet here you are 110% agreement with someone doing that exact thing. Yeah that somehow makes sense.
I have actually played the game myself at this point and I find it enjoyable. Fantastic? No. perfect? No. Worth the full cost? Absolutely not. Plays fine and runs fine for me and I think some people are being overly critical on it.
My point is simply that it amazes me how some people will tear some games apart and overlook the same issues in others. Unlike Survivor and Last of Us, Redfall is playable and launched in a state I can enjoy. Sadly, in this day and age, that automatically makes it a better game than others.
I've played the game for several hours now and like you it has been fun. But I must say I understand why some are very critical of the game. The AI is horrible. The world is mostly empty. The gunplay is pretty janky. There are some bugs. And there are many features that are missing when compared to a modern shooter.
For me, the setting and exploration have been enough to overcome all of those issues, but the longer I play, the more they start to wear on me. And I can see how any of the issues I mentioned could immediately turn someone against a game.
The best part of that is I am playing it with Gamepass, so I haven't spent any extra money to buy the game (it's not free, I paid $10 for gamepass this month) so I can quit it and forget it at any point and not be upset about how Redfall was a bad entertainment choice for my money.
Sure as hell not me. I have just finished the latest Star Ocean and currently going through Stranger of Paradise Final Fantasy Origin which I will hopefully finish just in time before Diablo 4 and Final Fantasy 16 launch. So many good games right now, no time for average and below.
And damn, seems the Humble Bundle also just dropped WH40K Chaos Gate in my library….
/Cheers, Lahnmir
How did you like the latest Star Ocean?
I love the Star Ocean games so I might not be the best one to speak, but, here we go.
It is a bit of a mess. The world looks stunning, the characters have the weird doll aesthetics part IV had and the gorgeous portraits from V are absent. Performance is well below good, the fighting system is a bit too fast for its own good and the last 25% of the game clearly shows the team running thin on their budget. The crafting is 90% busywork until you unlock synthesizing and then you can utterly break the game with that.
But it has heart, lots and lots of it. The characters are original and well developed and the story beats are expertly paced. The fighting system is original and works really well too and there are plenty of side quests and a nice mini game which you play with pawns you can also equip as trinkets. I finished it in roughly 36 hours and was smiling the entire time, it is the most Star Ocean the series has been since III. Do know I also really liked IV and V contrary to popular opinion. Postgame content is light here compared to other SC games and I didn’t invest a lot of time in it.
So, pretty flawed but absolutely amazing to me on a personal level. Also a bold new direction for the series as a whole.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
A game can be "bad" and still be fun and worth playing.
Going back and looking at the critic scores for fallout 76, they were even worse than redfall.
But fallout 76 is one of the few games I go back to every year and has gotten pretty good.
There was a lot of doom and gloom back then about the game but it's come a long way.
I'm not even a little mad about the scores people can think what they want. I've enjoyed playing it, and it probably won't last me more than a month of play time, but there's nothing else out right now even remotely interesting to me.
Game passes are pushing unfinished games upon gamers, this is just the beginning, "unfinished" could become the norm on a game pass.
There is no proof to substantiate that claim and is a leap towards a conclusion that fits the narrative you are trying to push into reality.
'Unfinished' games are not a Gamepass issue as the numbers of 'finished' games on Gamepass far outweigh the number that are not.
'Unifinished games are something that Steam dominates the industry with not any game subscription service.
Blue, you like me have been in gaming for too long for us to want to remember, you know nothing happens overnight. It is a process which is starting, early access (by definition unfinished) and games which are increasingly unpolished at launch are going to increase as a proportion of all Pass games. This is toe in the water, if it is accepted then they will put their foot in.
Now I am not saying there are guys in smoke filled rooms rubbing their hands at the idea they can palm unfished games of on us, but as we are not going to boycot this, that is what is going to happen.
Steven just wrote an article on why it is aright to play Redfall now, he said the fact it is on a Pass was part of the reason why it was alright. Need I say more?
Do understand I think Redfall may make good down the line, it seems to have a good framework. But we can't take this lying down or it will as I say become more common.
The same people complaining about standards and how bad this or that is are the same people who will pick up a completely crap indie game and write off issues simply because it's got "early access" tagged onto it. It's all a matter of perspective. Just like I said in my post, fallout 76 was worse off that this game at launch and I still played it then because despite having issues it was still fun .
And everyday people are giving early access titles a pass on everything wrong under the sun simply because of an early access designation. Even when half the time those same games launch just as buggy. But it doesn't matter if you have fun with it.
The reviewer scores are everywhere from 9 to 4 on this game. It means some people really like it and some people really hate it. Do you believe the 9s or the 4s or the majority of the mixed reviews in between where everyone has their own opinion that can't be quantified as great or terrible?
I'm just saying that I played the game and really enjoyed it. I have my own opinions on what they could fix, but I doubt others would feel the same way. So yeah it's all relative to your experience and what you like.
It's not because people like "bad games" which people quoted what I said and must not have realized bad was in quotations, but I've seen people find fun in games I wouldn't touch if you paid me. It doesn't mean they just have poor standards or like terrible games, it means they see something you don't. Just like all these clown early access gamers that swear by indies... Can't tell you how many of those I've tried and have the same reaction. But they are allowed to like what they like, no crusade needed to prove them wrong.
Not me, I have consistently had issues with poor polish since the internet came out mate.
I agree with you in that people can have fun in a game that's not finished and there lies the danger because studios and indie have woken up to this and now launch and be damned. I can't say how conscious they are of releasing a product too early either as early access or for launch. But if you got away with it last time, why not do it again?
So you are not seeing something I don't, I just prefer to wait until the game is at a place where I am going to like more of what I see. Is that wrong?
I agree with your post 110%. Its amazing what people who write reviews, post about games and judge some games for, will, at the same time, overlook in other games. The pile of %$#@ games I have on my computer because I bought into the early access hype is immense. Some of these games have been in development for YEARS but thats fine with their horrible controls, graphics and mechanics. And games can right the ship. I would argue that Cyberpunk is now one of the best games ever but when it launched it was not. However, it took time but at least its not claiming to be something its not.
Funny how you are complainig about all the people that shill games that are bad and ignore major problems in game, yet here you are 110% agreement with someone doing that exact thing. Yeah that somehow makes sense.
I have actually played the game myself at this point and I find it enjoyable. Fantastic? No. perfect? No. Worth the full cost? Absolutely not. Plays fine and runs fine for me and I think some people are being overly critical on it.
My point is simply that it amazes me how some people will tear some games apart and overlook the same issues in others. Unlike Survivor and Last of Us, Redfall is playable and launched in a state I can enjoy. Sadly, in this day and age, that automatically makes it a better game than others.
As opposed to just straight up shilling every single time? I dont even get your point. Because someone praised a game, they have to praise every turd out there?
Its pretty obvious a ton of people thing this game is a pile. Why cant they just be honest about that.
This is exactly why we get so many trash games. You get players with real low standards or just want to hype whatever new thing they are playing. They play the game for 5 minutes then come tell everyone how great it is. People read the forums like this, then rush out and buy the game only to find out after 10 minutes its complete garbage.
I agree with your post 110%. Its amazing what people who write reviews, post about games and judge some games for, will, at the same time, overlook in other games. The pile of %$#@ games I have on my computer because I bought into the early access hype is immense. Some of these games have been in development for YEARS but thats fine with their horrible controls, graphics and mechanics. And games can right the ship. I would argue that Cyberpunk is now one of the best games ever but when it launched it was not. However, it took time but at least its not claiming to be something its not.
Funny how you are complainig about all the people that shill games that are bad and ignore major problems in game, yet here you are 110% agreement with someone doing that exact thing. Yeah that somehow makes sense.
I have actually played the game myself at this point and I find it enjoyable. Fantastic? No. perfect? No. Worth the full cost? Absolutely not. Plays fine and runs fine for me and I think some people are being overly critical on it.
My point is simply that it amazes me how some people will tear some games apart and overlook the same issues in others. Unlike Survivor and Last of Us, Redfall is playable and launched in a state I can enjoy. Sadly, in this day and age, that automatically makes it a better game than others.
As opposed to just straight up shilling every single time? I dont even get your point. Because someone praised a game, they have to praise every turd out there?
Its pretty obvious a ton of people thing this game is a pile. Why cant they just be honest about that.
This is exactly why we get so many trash games. You get players with real low standards or just want to hype whatever new thing they are playing. They play the game for 5 minutes then come tell everyone how great it is. People read the forums like this, then rush out and buy the game only to find out after 10 minutes its complete garbage.
Never said it was great. The game has issues. it has some fundamental issues. But let me explain it clearly and simply - I will rate it higher than The Last of Us remaster because I could actually install it and play it. It booted right up and played. And yes, this ranks higher than TLOU remaster in March because it DID NOT RUN. However, this website and others, ran out and wrote RAVE reviews even though 90% of players could not even play it (and completely ignored performance issues, install issues, etc...). And thats the exact thing you are talking about it.
Well The Last of Us has mixed rating on steam, which is very low. So if this is slightly better than that, then thats not saying much. Why cant they both be bad? Just because there is something worse means this game is good? That doesnt make sense to me.
If people on this site wrote a positive review for The last of Us, does that also mean they also have to praise every other junk game? Perhaps fanboys wrote those, perhaps they are correcting their mistake and reviewing a game for what it is currently.
However just because someone made a mistake and gave a positive early impression of a game doesnt mean they have to continue doing that for every bad game in existence.
FYI, I will be jumping back into Redfall right after this post
Could it be better, yes! And that being said, I expected something "seasonal" pre-purchase.
There is plenty of room for improvement, and growth.
It reminds me of a mix of games. Division (1` or 2), Remnant: from the ashes, throw in a dash of Outriders, bake that and icing would be borderlands.
There is some great story. but challenge is "meh". But I can and will try increasing the skill level for a challenge before condemning it.
this is Bethesdaworks, and even though it is AFTER MS purchase, I look at this launch similar to ESO, which had a ton of issues on launch, and now a pretty beloved game.
I DO believe it was rushed, not sure by who (MS or Bethesda), but hopefully will get the fixed it deserves. Game is great in concept and story.
I am wondering with the pressure to produce on Starfield, cause Redfall to loose the TLC it needed.
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For me, the setting and exploration have been enough to overcome all of those issues, but the longer I play, the more they start to wear on me. And I can see how any of the issues I mentioned could immediately turn someone against a game.
The best part of that is I am playing it with Gamepass, so I haven't spent any extra money to buy the game (it's not free, I paid $10 for gamepass this month) so I can quit it and forget it at any point and not be upset about how Redfall was a bad entertainment choice for my money.
It is a bit of a mess. The world looks stunning, the characters have the weird doll aesthetics part IV had and the gorgeous portraits from V are absent. Performance is well below good, the fighting system is a bit too fast for its own good and the last 25% of the game clearly shows the team running thin on their budget. The crafting is 90% busywork until you unlock synthesizing and then you can utterly break the game with that.
So, pretty flawed but absolutely amazing to me on a personal level. Also a bold new direction for the series as a whole.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Now I am not saying there are guys in smoke filled rooms rubbing their hands at the idea they can palm unfished games of on us, but as we are not going to boycot this, that is what is going to happen.
Steven just wrote an article on why it is aright to play Redfall now, he said the fact it is on a Pass was part of the reason why it was alright. Need I say more?
Do understand I think Redfall may make good down the line, it seems to have a good framework. But we can't take this lying down or it will as I say become more common.
I agree with you in that people can have fun in a game that's not finished and there lies the danger because studios and indie have woken up to this and now launch and be damned. I can't say how conscious they are of releasing a product too early either as early access or for launch. But if you got away with it last time, why not do it again?
So you are not seeing something I don't, I just prefer to wait until the game is at a place where I am going to like more of what I see. Is that wrong?
I like this guy's reviews, both him and ACG have very matter of fact reviews, talking about positives and negatives, without the "showmanship."
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Its pretty obvious a ton of people thing this game is a pile. Why cant they just be honest about that.
This is exactly why we get so many trash games. You get players with real low standards or just want to hype whatever new thing they are playing. They play the game for 5 minutes then come tell everyone how great it is. People read the forums like this, then rush out and buy the game only to find out after 10 minutes its complete garbage.
If people on this site wrote a positive review for The last of Us, does that also mean they also have to praise every other junk game? Perhaps fanboys wrote those, perhaps they are correcting their mistake and reviewing a game for what it is currently.
However just because someone made a mistake and gave a positive early impression of a game doesnt mean they have to continue doing that for every bad game in existence.
Could it be better, yes! And that being said, I expected something "seasonal" pre-purchase.
There is plenty of room for improvement, and growth.
It reminds me of a mix of games. Division (1` or 2), Remnant: from the ashes, throw in a dash of Outriders, bake that and icing would be borderlands.
There is some great story. but challenge is "meh". But I can and will try increasing the skill level for a challenge before condemning it.
this is Bethesdaworks, and even though it is AFTER MS purchase, I look at this launch similar to ESO, which had a ton of issues on launch, and now a pretty beloved game.
I DO believe it was rushed, not sure by who (MS or Bethesda), but hopefully will get the fixed it deserves. Game is great in concept and story.
I am wondering with the pressure to produce on Starfield, cause Redfall to loose the TLC it needed.