Ember Sword's New Engine Could Be a Major MMORPG Game Changer | Interview | MMORPG.com

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Ember Sword's New Engine Could Be a Major MMORPG Game Changer | Interview | MMORPG.com

In our interview with Joris, we talked about innovation of their custom engine, the power of asynchronous streaming, and their potential contribution to revolutionize MMORPGs as we know them.

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Angrakhan

Uh, yeah, streaming content into a running game is not a new concept. It's been done for years. I can't remember the name of it, but years ago someone encouraged me to try a FTP browser game and I was pretty impressed with the technology of it. The gameplay, not so much. The size of the world seemed impossibly large for a browser game. Being a developer myself, I wanted to understand how it was even possible, so I hit F12 and clicked the network tab. Sure enough you stared walking in one direction and eventually you'd see it start downloading stuff... the map and assets that were just out of sight, of course. It did it in chunks, so it'd load a chunk, and you'd keep going, then load a chunk, and so on. Downside of it being you could get it to load a chunk and then change your mind and go a different direction and then it would have to calculate that other chunk to load meaning it uselessly loaded some chunk that wasn't going to be used. However, it's still overall way more efficient than trying to load the whole game as a monolith. Pretty cool tech for sure, but the idea that this is some groundbreaking technology that no one has ever thought of before is a bit of an overstatement. This has been thought of and implemented years ago.

DigDuggy

I wish companies would concentrate on making great games and less on being on the quest to introduce 'the most innovative' this or that.  Innovation is good, but that shouldn't be the goal.  A great game should.

Quizzical

Didn't A Tale in the Desert do this 20 years ago? And with a standalone client, not stuck in a browser. Bandwidth was a lot more limited back then.

maskedweasel

Quizzical said:

Didn't A Tale in the Desert do this 20 years ago? And with a standalone client, not stuck in a browser. Bandwidth was a lot more limited back then.

I feel like that's the biggest point though. That the game can run immediately with no client. Not that it's "stuck in a browser" because as the article says they are still deciding whether they should have app and console versions. 

I can't really speak too much about what ATITD did as I never played it, but if they can do what they say and provide high quality visuals at very little bandwidth and it runs locally instead of on a browser it COULD be good for mmos. 

I guess we won't really know unless the game launches

because when last I played ember sword, the game did have moments where you'd have to stop for a second for things to load in. It didn't really "predict" as well in earlier tests. 

LePetitSoldat

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Quizzical

DigDuggy said:

I wish companies would concentrate on making great games and less on being on the quest to introduce 'the most innovative' this or that.  Innovation is good, but that shouldn't be the goal.  A great game should.

Having useful features in your game engine shouldn't be the primary point of a game, but doesn't prevent a game from otherwise being good.  For example, the Guild Wars 1 game engine was built to allow players to play the game with virtually no downtime for updates, as they had rolling updates of idle servers to avoid kicking anyone off for downtime.  That didn't make it a bad game.  Indeed, it made the game better than it otherwise would have been.

Having your own game engine and someone on staff who understands how it works and how to change it can open up new opens for interesting gameplay.  That can easily be the difference between "that would be interesting, but we can't do it because our engine isn't built for it" and "that's an interesting idea, so let's modify our engine to do it".  Developers being able to actually implement what they want can make a game more fun to play in a lot of ways.

Quizzical

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Likely, but not because of asynchronous streaming.

vonryan123

Yea it seems like it could be fun I played it for a few but the whole nft thing and linking a wallet....yea I will see myself out.

Neoyoshi

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Yeah i don't know what this is anymore, you'd think after the whole mess that occurred not that long ago, people would start pivoting away from anything related to the blockchain, but people are still trying to cash in somehow with this Web3.0 crap (which is just another big scam).

Web3 or PlayToEarn gaming; is just the next phase of this big scam.

This video touches on Playtoearn gaming a bit and it goes into some details of why it can never work if it's intention is 'only to make money off it's users'

The Web3 part starts at about the 40 minute mark of the video.

LePetitSoldat

Neoyoshi said:

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Yeah i don't know what this is anymore, you'd think after the whole mess that occurred not that long ago, people would start pivoting away from anything related to the blockchain, but people are still trying to cash in somehow with this Web3.0 crap (which is just another big scam).



Web3 or PlayToEarn gaming; is just the next phase of this big scam.



This video touches on Playtoearn gaming a bit and it goes into some details of why it can never work if it's intention is 'only to make money off it's users'



The Web3 part starts at about the 40 minute mark of the video.

Thanks for sharing. I’m watching this video right now. It’s really good.

Sarla

Calling this game groundbreaking is a slap in the face

Wargfoot

Sarla said:

Calling this game groundbreaking is a slap in the face

If a slap in the face is as bad as it gets you got off easy.
Quite often, they get into people's wallets.

Quizzical

Neoyoshi said:

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Yeah i don't know what this is anymore, you'd think after the whole mess that occurred not that long ago, people would start pivoting away from anything related to the blockchain, but people are still trying to cash in somehow with this Web3.0 crap (which is just another big scam).

Web3 or PlayToEarn gaming; is just the next phase of this big scam.

This video touches on Playtoearn gaming a bit and it goes into some details of why it can never work if it's intention is 'only to make money off it's users'

The Web3 part starts at about the 40 minute mark of the video.

Blockchain is not the problem.  Blockchain has legitimate uses.  It's just that "play to earn" games aren't one of those legitimate uses.

inmysights

They need to fix the game first. This past weekend was a fustercluck!!! Log in move and never stop until you died, Respawn, move, and continue forward until you died. You couldn't even play the game at all.

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maskedweasel

Loux said:

Nu skulle du interviewe denne idiot om stille og roligt at fyre halvdelen af virksomheden og stadig kalde sig selv et geni.

In what context? Did they layoff their staff? 

Kyleran

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Articles about this game and others like it should prominently display a disclaimer at the top saying "This game contains Web3 / NFT Krap" to make skipping right by them much easier for the site's readers.
  

ValdemarJ

Kyleran said:

PetitSoldat said:

Isn't this shit a NFT crap?

Articles about this game and others like it should prominently display a disclaimer at the top saying "This game contains Web3 / NFT Krap" to make skipping right by them much easier for the site's readers.
  

Especially because it's easy to confuse them all and lose track of who's pulling what scam. There are multiple "Embers" and all the other "Sagas of" "Chronicles of" etc. And what with them releasing "MMO" battle royales and League of Legends clones, and flip-flopping their art and feature set every few years, it really is hard to keep them straight.