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cpt.Balerion
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no pvp, only region of Eriador and only 1 side of the conflict? wtf?! r they releasing demo or what???
I really love LOTR, and I'm waiting for online LOTR for years, but now I'm really not sure if I want them to release LOTR:O :
this game has HUGE potential and I wasn't able to imagine any way how can any1 make LOTR:O bad game, but Turbine just showed me that it's possible
i'm not biggest fan of PvP, I'm more a roleplayer, I like story, quests, adventuring... but pvp SHOULD be in ANY mmorpg
i'm really not sure if I'll buy LOTR:O, maybe I'll rather buy WoW >_>
I think this game needs 3 things (and then I'll buy it for sure...): pvp, WHOLE middle-earth OMG and BOTH sides (good&evil), and the best thng they can do is to implement RvR like in DAOC (that'll be really great...)
I don't think I'll buy (and pay monthly fee) for DEMO...
if Turbine won't change at least 1 thing (pvp, both sides, whole map) I swear I'll send them a mail bomb 
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The game aint even out yet and ur complaining that u aint going to buy it? ur loss.
You want turbine to change either pvp, both sides or whole map for you to play? what makes you think they will change what they have set out to do for just 1 voice, maybe if there were more people thinking the same they would do so but that is yet to be seen.
Your pointing things out that maybe in the future of the game will be put into action, just give the game time to even hit teh stores before saying you aint going to buy it.
Given the overuse of unnecessary captilization, the abundance of absolute phrasing ["I wasn't able to imagine any way how can any1 make LOTR:O bad game ... but pvp SHOULD be in ANY mmorpg"], and the starting of a new thread on an old topic, I'm guessing attention was what he was after.
Just a guesstimate though,
or am I being mean
Ok both
The no pvp is really the only thing that turns me off. I'll probably end up getting it anyways.
oh sure, I'll go through all 89 topics and read them all... suuuure I have nothing better to do than readin 89 topics
1 voice? I thought that LOT of ppl r 'whinning' about these things that I've pointed out as the another guy in this thread said... so maybe u should think before u post anything
see? I guess u 2 need to cooperate more next time
well, maybe if more ppl will say that they won't buy a "DEMO" maybe turbine will think again about adding at least PvPI'm waiting for LOTR:O too long, and I deff won't be quiet when I see that Turbine is gonna ruin it dammit! yes RUIN IT, MMORPG LOTR with only 1 side and no PvP? I have this in every OFFLINE RPG and I don't need to pay monthly fee for offline games so why should I pay monthly fees for a game that's exactly like offline singleplayer with chat?! yup that'll be great... why should we make WHOLE LOTR, when we can f*** with players and earn more money on datadiscs? 15$ monthly fee? that's not enough...
coooool
and I hope MORE ppl will make threads like this one (and not only here), and I hope that some1 will kick Turbine in their lazy butts, cause I love LOTR too much to watch how it'll be ruined and used to simply steal more and more money from naive players...
that's all, and if u don't like this thread, don't post here, if u want Turbine to ruin LOTR then shut up and go kiss their butts, maybe they'll give u 1 day trial and u'll be happy killing mobs whole day...
geez I'm so ticked off!
You love LOTR way too much? Don't make me laugh. If you actually cared, you'd be excited about what they ARE doing--but all you are focused on is PvP. You care about it soooo much that it won't be a good game unless you can gank players lower level than yourself, right? That's pretty much what you are saying. And before you try to dispute me, then please describe to me how MMORPG PvP is different than what I just described.
Wait--you can't. PvP in MMORPGs requires no skill whatsoever--the winner is always clearly determined by who has put the bigger time investment (i.e. who is higher level) in the game. If you PvP guys actually wanted a challenge, you'd be going up against others in a game that actually requires skill, like Counterstrike. Actually, you probably have played CS, but suck at it, which is why you settle for MMORPG PvP.
Ive been waiting along time for this game and im loving how its turning out. To be honest im glad your upset with the game when i get this game and make my character and im getting into the game i dont want to be interrupted by Leg0las5945030 screaming WTF DUDEZ I CANT KILLZ TEH ORCZ BY TEH DOZENS WITH MY BOW OMG WTF THIS GAME SUCKS IM QUITTING. Your bringing up no points here only 1 region? only 1 region? Do you have any clue how big Eriador is i myself am happy there only releasing with Eriador, im gonna be taking my time exploring everything. Searching the ruins of Fornost? Travelling to Rivendell, going to the remnants of the witch kings lair in angmar, the troll shaws..the shire..bree.....the grey havens.....the blue moutains and alot more its just fine with me and the games story will progress later on as they add more regions from what ive heard. This game is gonna be truly amazing, its gonna bring tokiens world to life and i know im gonna be taking my time and loving the sights.
Im not really bothered by no pvp in the slightest either, i wont have time to be worrying about getting a tricked out armor suit and weapon, it would ruin the magic of lotr for me. Although i would like to be able to play an easternling
. This isnt meant as a flame but to the op if you dont think eriador is that big go look at a LotR map and basically everyting east of the misty moutains including moria will be in the game at release. I'd hardly call that a demo. I will agree with you on point though later as the game includes the east lands and if pvp does get inserted somehow i would love to see Mordor and the free peoples of middle earth fighting for osgiliath. 
Ack, double post.
what u r talking about is offline version of LOTR, they can release singleplayer LOTR and u'll be happy... that'll be ok, cause u don't have to pay monthly fees for offline game and I'll be quiet, playing LOTR whole days...
again, go and play SINGLEPLAYER, ONLINE games r about ppl, and if some1 is idiot in real life then he'll surely be an idiot in the game and if u can't live with this fact then DON'T PLAY ONLINE games that's cool, as I've said earlier I'm not biggest fan of PvP and I rather enjoy the game itself (except DAOC where is PvP really great) BUT I WANT THE CHOICE TO PARTICIPATE IN PVP WHEN I'LL WANT TObut this is MMORPG, not Singleplayer...
I don't need to look at map, I'm reading Tolkien for 10 years, again and again and again... but if I have to pay every month 15$ (that's lot of money for me, cause I'm a student and I don't have fulltime job so I'll think twice where to spend my hard earned money) I want it to be worth it... I want to visit Rohan... I want to see the great Anduin... I want to kick Easterlings... I want to say hello to Smaug... and if some1 will tick me off in game I WANT TO HAVE THE CHOICE TO KICK HIS BUTT! and if I'll be in bad mood I want to play big ugly uruk-hai and take my revenge on those lazy butts with pointy ears!
MMORPG without PvP is RIDICULOUS especially LOTR where PvP can be SIMPLY AMAZING! Just imagine battles against orc, trolls, easterling who'll be played by REAL THINKING ppl and not stupid AI!
first of all, pls learn to read properly...
I've said MANY times, that I'm not much in the PvP BUT I want the CHOICE TO PARTICIPATE IN PVP
I've NEVER, NEVER, NEVER killed players that were lower lvl than me, UNLESS they've attacked me (that was once) so pls if u don't know what r u talking about then simply don't talk about it cause u'll look like fool
read my previous reply, I won't repeate everything again but I'll repeat 1 thing: u can play SINGLEPLAYER and u'll be happy (no PVP, small map, 1 side of the conflict, etc...), I'll be also happy but I won't pay 15$ every month to play SINGLEPLAYR dammit! If I'm gonna spend my hard earned money on something IT MUST BE WORTH IT and SINGLEPLAYER LOTR with CHAT isn't worth 15$ per month!
again LEARN TO READ b4 u'll try to insult me next time pls, otherwise u'll look like foolish kid
oh and btw yes I was playing CS, I was pretty good for ur information and from time to time I'm playing it again just for the fun to play with friends
P.S. u can't even imagine how I was feeling few years ago when I saw first screenshot from Middle-Earh Online, that they r finally gonna make it... since I've first read Tolkien (it was Hobbit) it was my dream to wander Middle-Earth... WHOLE Middle-Earth... to feel the freedom, to go where I want to go... I don't want to be limited just to Eriador and pay more and more money for datadiscs! so yes I LOVE LOTR MORE than u can imagine, so pls if u don't want to LOTR to be FULL ONLINE game then shutup and leave this thread cause it's not for u obviously
first of all, pls learn to read properly...
I've said MANY times, that I'm not much in the PvP BUT I want the CHOICE TO PARTICIPATE IN PVP
I've NEVER, NEVER, NEVER killed players that were lower lvl than me, UNLESS they've attacked me (that was once) so pls if u don't know what r u talking about then simply don't talk about it cause u'll look like fool
read my previous reply, I won't repeate everything again but I'll repeat 1 thing: u can play SINGLEPLAYER and u'll be happy (no PVP, small map, 1 side of the conflict, etc...), I'll be also happy but I won't pay 15$ every month to play SINGLEPLAYR dammit! If I'm gonna spend my hard earned money on something IT MUST BE WORTH IT and SINGLEPLAYER LOTR with CHAT isn't worth 15$ per month!
again LEARN TO READ b4 u'll try to insult me next time pls, otherwise u'll look like foolish kid
oh and btw yes I was playing CS, I was pretty good for ur information and from time to time I'm playing it again just for the fun to play with friends
P.S. u can't even imagine how I was feeling few years ago when I saw first screenshot from Middle-Earh Online, that they r finally gonna make it... since I've first read Tolkien (it was Hobbit) it was my dream to wander Middle-Earth... WHOLE Middle-Earth... to feel the freedom, to go where I want to go... I don't want to be limited just to Eriador and pay more and more money for datadiscs! so yes I LOVE LOTR MORE than u can imagine, so pls if u don't want to LOTR to be FULL ONLINE game then shutup and leave this thread cause it's not for u obviously
How very ironic that you attempt to say I'm sounding like a stupid kid when you are the one with the 3rd grade level internet spelling.
Second of all, you claim that I was off in my reasoning as to why you want the game to have PvP in it. Fair enough, but then you go and do the same thing, making yourself look like a total idiot by saying that if there is no PvP, it's as good as a single player game with a chatroom. I hate it when people use this description of a game without PvP. You know, there is another way to interact with fellow players in these games besides PvP that you can't do in a single player game--it's called COOPERATION. You know, working together, completing quests in a group, etc.
Oh, and before you say that this game is obviously not for me, I would have to say it's the other way around. After all, it's you that's unsatisfied with the game's current direction, not me. It suits me just fine.
First of all I am not here to flame anyone or insult anyone. I understand why some people think that pvp is the ony fun thing in a game. That reason to me is that most games lack any fun content to keep you interested and happy for any length of time. I am not a fan of pvp, I do not believe in ganking newbies. I would rather make friends and explore the game and do the quests. IMO if they were to try to include all of the map of middle earth into release one of two things will happen, This game will have a huge map and no content cause or this game will be delayed for several more years as they try to include all the needed content with the whole map.
I like others have been waiting for along time for this game to be released and I have suffered thru the changes. I have accepted them and I will play this game cause it is middle earth. Wether it at launch is only eriador or it is all of the map. It is still the shire, fornost, bree, rivendale. Lots of places for us to explore and to keep us busy until they can add more to the game.
I have read many dev diaries and I can swear that floon beatle hinted that pvp wasnt a complete no go, just that it was not the center focus of the game like so many other games. That they were more interested in concentrateting on the content and making the game true to the books. Yes I know there are those who want to play the bad guys or be able to kill the annoying little snot nosed idiot who feels his only mission in the game is to harrass everyone else. But with no pvp i don't see those kind of players bothereing to play this game, I could be wrong.
I will wait and see what the game is like at launch before i make a deciding judgement about it.
Well, here's one possibility: the books aren't about "player versus player", the books are about UNITING to confront an evil. As in, cooperation, working together toward the common goal, convincing the reluctant that the evil is really evil and is threatening things. There is NOTHING in the Lord of the Rings (referring to the trilogy + the Hobbit, NOT the myriad other books, Farmer's tales, etc.) in terms of attitude or Tolkein's point for writing it that supports the idea of PvP.
This is particularly true in game terms, since they're launching it with "only" the Fellowship-side of the books. PvP doesn't belong in the game until and unless they bring in the ability to play the various "Evil" sides (Sauron, Isengard, etc.).
Of course, even "just" doing the lands they're doing, and realising the thousands of little villages, towns, cities, etc. that are in the areas they're doing is a monumental task. It's lunacy to think, as some of the less capable thinkers here have argued for, that anyone could fully map ALL of Middle-Earth and realise it to any real potential. I don't want all of Middle-Earth until the WHOLE thing can be fully realised.
I don't want them to give us the ability to "play an orc", until and unless they've built the gameworld to support that "side" -- aka, there's a culture in place, more to it than just a different skin on the character and different stats.
The one thing that LOTR Online, in any of its forms, has to offer is the greatest potential to actually ROLEPLAY in an MMORPG, if it's done right. Of course, it's a comparitive rarity to see people who argue for PvP and can't be bothered to spell correctly actually worry about roleplaying (which is more than just levelling and watching stats).
As a reader who came to the Hobbit in the mid-70s and who has devoured every book over and over again, I do NOT want to see PvP put in the game until it can be put in and realised in a way that makes SENSE within the context of the world Tolkein created.
I dont know exactly how i came off as not wanting a online game. My point was PvP doesnt always attract ermm mature players i.e WoW. I love the fact that im going to be able to make a character in a LotR world and adventure with others and explore the remnants of Eriador, i cant wait for it, but i just dont wanna have to put up with immature players bragging about how much they own or how they have a full set of uber armor and pve seems to attract more desirable people IMO.
I fully understand how you want to be able to explore gondor and rohan though and someday after a certain expansion is released you will, but for the moment only eriador will be in the game and i really am fond of that. Ive seen gondor, ive seen rohan, ive seen mordor in other Lotr games its about time imo that you have the chance to visit the ancient Northern Kingdom explore Fornost, the shire, angmar(alot more just too lazy to type em :P) im physced about it.
that's cool, as I've said earlier I'm not biggest fan of PvP and I rather enjoy the game itself (except DAOC where is PvP really great) BUT I WANT THE CHOICE TO PARTICIPATE IN PVP WHEN I'LL WANT TOMMORPG without PvP is RIDICULOUS especially LOTR where PvP can be SIMPLY AMAZING! Just imagine battles against orc, trolls, easterling who'll be played by REAL THINKING ppl and not stupid AI!
Apparently it seems to me you want to be able to PvP when you want. Duels. Enough said. Thats all the pvp the game will need. And you have to realise that Turbine is almost finishing the development phase to add pvp they would then have too make the the eastern lands which would take an incredible amount of time, they would then have to make the race models/armor models for those races, skills, quests, there architecture models, devise a pvp system that works, and the list just keeps on going. If they were indeed to say they were gonna add the Evil forces of middle earth they would have to add Rohan/Gondor also and repeat the whole development phase AGAIN. This would be almost similar to starting the game over again and the game would not be released for another 3-4 years perhaps.
Now I could wait that time but ive already been waiting for LotR online for whats it been now 3 years, and im perfectly fine with only eriador being included at release for the moment. Turbine is already producing what is it 2 other mmorpgs along with LotR Online and too add all this would cost ALOT of money and with ac2 just getting cancelled and i dont know how well AC1 is doing theres a chance the company might abandon the project. But i will agree with you one one thing Belerion if there was indeed a way to make the pvp system something like daoc i could defintly wait say like making Osgiliath sort of like the keeps in DaoC along with various other zones that could be taken over. I could ignore the 1337 kiddies then and be happy with the game but unless turbine annouces they will make LotR Online have pvp and a system like daocs i see no point for pvp to be added.
Belerion i may have come off like i was trying to flame you before but i wasnt i guess i just got carried away sharing my point my view. I just wanted to say why i dont think pvp would really help LotR Online that much.
Second of all, you claim that I was off in my reasoning as to why you want the game to have PvP in it. Fair enough, but then you go and do the same thing, making yourself look like a total idiot by saying that if there is no PvP, it's as good as a single player game with a chatroom. I hate it when people use this description of a game without PvP. You know, there is another way to interact with fellow players in these games besides PvP that you can't do in a single player game--it's called COOPERATION. You know, working together, completing quests in a group, etc.
Oh, and before you say that this game is obviously not for me, I would have to say it's the other way around. After all, it's you that's unsatisfied with the game's current direction, not me. It suits me just fine.
ok if you want I'll spell right, just for you, because you are trying so hard to insult me but only thing how you can "insult me" is through my laziness(=spelling)
now if you didn't notice, I'm not from english speaking country so insulting my english is really pathethic...
did you know that singleplayer games has something called "multiplayer" where you can cooperate with other people in groups and completing quests? and you don't have to pay 1 cent for playing multiplayers (for example) in Baldur's Gate, IWD, or other singleplayer RPGs
so NOW tell me, WHY should I spent my hard earned money and pay every month 15$ for something that I can have for free? (of course I don't count paying for the game itself) only thing that LOTR:O has (and other singleplayer game with multipayer don't have (unless you play on internet (battlenet for example))) is CHAT with more people than just people in your group
do you really think I'm so stupid that I'll pay 15$ every month just to play with my friends in group and completing quests? killing mobs with AI? this is in EVERY offline RPG! but we are talking here about ONLINE RPG, that's in development since 1999 (correct me if I'm wrong) and it offer even LESS than hundreds older ONLINE RPGs
but maybe you are so rich that you can spent 15$ every month to play "multiplayer" but for 15$ every month I want "ONLINE world", I want "REAL" situations (argues->fights (yes you'll be surprised but even in middle-earth dwarves, hobbits, humans (elves maybe not) are fighting with each other like every living form in the world when there's conflict (you stole my ring so now I'll teach you a lesson))
and now please stop responding here, you are already looking like fool with your childish insults and bad reading...
I'll respond really shortly and only to one thing, because I'm too tired from writing those 2 previous posts
first: read those 2 posts, I'm sure you'll find there what I mean
second: as I said, Turbine obviously isn't capable to make 3 mmorpgs at once properly, so why, WHY GOD?! they are doing LOTR which has BIG world that everyone knows AND 2 other MMORPGS?! They are idiots (that's a fact..) I'll tell you why! because they are THIEVES... they think that players and LOTR fans are so stupid that they won't see it (and you know what? after reading few posts here, they are right... people will buy JUST because it's LOTR no matter that it won't offer more than any other singleplayer RPG... I'm HUGE fan of Tolkien (for example I have 3 versions of LOTR (1 in slovak, 1 in czech (first czech publication) and another new czech publication with illustrations), but I'm not stupid... I hope Tolkien was here and kick Turbine's lazy butts...
1 last thing: my name is Balerion, not Belerion... that's BIG difference... check G.R.R.Martin's 'A game of thrones: song of Ice&Fire) and you'll understand... or at least I hope...
now if you didn't notice, I'm not from english speaking country so insulting my english is really pathethic...
*YAWN* Ok, here we go again. No, I didn't notice you're not from an English speaking country, because your profile says you're from WASHINGTON STATE. Sorry, I'm not psychic.
did you know that singleplayer games has something called "multiplayer" where you can cooperate with other people in groups and completing quests? and you don't have to pay 1 cent for playing multiplayers (for example) in Baldur's Gate, IWD, or other singleplayer RPGs
so NOW tell me, WHY should I spent my hard earned money and pay every month 15$ for something that I can have for free? (of course I don't count paying for the game itself) only thing that LOTR:O has (and other singleplayer game with multipayer don't have (unless you play on internet (battlenet for example))) is CHAT with more people than just people in your group
do you really think I'm so stupid that I'll pay 15$ every month just to play with my friends in group and completing quests? killing mobs with AI? this is in EVERY offline RPG! but we are talking here about ONLINE RPG, that's in development since 1999 (correct me if I'm wrong) and it offer even LESS than hundreds older ONLINE RPGs
but maybe you are so rich that you can spent 15$ every month to play "multiplayer" but for 15$ every month I want "ONLINE world", I want "REAL" situations (argues->fights (yes you'll be surprised but even in middle-earth dwarves, hobbits, humans (elves maybe not) are fighting with each other like every living form in the world when there's conflict (you stole my ring so now I'll teach you a lesson))
Well, going on your exact logic then, there's no reason why PvP is worth $15 dollars a month either, when there are just as many multiplayer games out there like Counterstrike that you can play free of charge. You know, unlike all of these single player games with multiplayer features that you keep focusing on, MMORPGs run on dozens of servers to handle the massive amount of people online at once, which is why that fee exists. Some single player games might be able to be played multiplayer, but you don't get the feeling of being part of a large world with other players. Listen to yourself: you're saying that PvP is the only thing that warrants 15 dollars a month. Your argument is absurd. Try better next time.
and now please stop responding here, you are already looking like fool with your childish insults and bad reading...
Childish insults? Pot calling the kettle black if you ask me--take a good look at your posts; it sounds like you're throwing a fit. And no, I won't stop responding to you. The only reason you are asking me to go away is because it takes way too much effort for you to come up with valid points to refute me with.
Oh, and I noticed you said to another poster that you were tired from responding to me. Sorry if asking you to spell correctly was such a mental drain. And if you're not from the United States, CHANGE YOUR PROFILE.
Well, if you want to get so picky as to call someone out for not spelling your name right, how about this:
The book you refer to is 'A Game of Thrones: Song of Ice and Fire'. Note the capitalization on all of the nouns within the title, which is standard. See, I can be picky too.
Yeah! Cuz what would Lord of the Rings be if Gandalf couldn't gank frodo?
EDIT: Oh, and Balerion, Tolkien is probably spinning in his grave knowing that any ass would want to be the evil side too.
so please, if you want to speak with me and you don't want to look like fool then LEARN to read, thank you no sorry, I must disappoint you, only reason I want you to leave this thread is, that it takes too much effort to repeat myself again and again, because you haven't learned to read properly and if someone can't read properly he's missing many points and I really don't like repeating myself
I've repeated all my points several times but you still miss them and my patience is over so I'm done with you until you learn to read ok my bad, I was writing those posts in work, where is really (and I mean REALLY) bad keyboard, and shift is working really bad so returning and repairing something like "g" to "G" was in my opinion waste of time
and btw in our language we're using capitalized letters for names and at the beginning of a sentence
and 1 last thing: "A game of thrones: song of Ice&Fire" is same as "A Game of Thrones: Song of Ice&Fire" BUT Belerion isn't same as Balerion (and I have also Balerion written in my profile, I guess you also don't like when someone is changing your name, right?)
so if this was a try to insult me, then it was again really pathethic, if you want to insult me, do it like man (or woman or what are you) you are missing whole point, so please read again my posts... and btw how many Gandalfs and Frodos were in middle-earth? that was quite ridiculous argument, sorry
as I said many times Middle-Earth is world full of NORMAL people and if you think that Middle-Earth is like Heaven where isn't anything like conflicts between normal people, then you must be really stupid (sorry to say that, but it's true)
please think before you post anything, thank you
I'll repeat myself again: dwarves, hobbits, humans (elves maybe not) are also fighting each other for many reasons: money, woman, etc... did you know that even 2 brothers are also fighting from time to time? even brother and sister
and I'm not talking about "ganking" I'm talking about PvP system like in Dark Age of Camelot, where you can't attack members of your realm, BUT you can have duels (you can challenge someone to have duel and he can accept your challenge... the losing player in duel won't lose anything, any exp and any equipment)
but this'll need Turbine to concentrate MORE on LOTR itself and make both sides of the conflict (as I said before, if they can't make LOTR properly, with everything that has every other new (and old) MMORPG then someone else should make it)
Please people, think MORE before you post anything, I know it must be quite hard to use your brain more, but try it... it's worth it, believe me
ok my bad, I was writing those posts in work, where is really (and I mean REALLY) bad keyboard, and shift is working really bad so returning and repairing something like "g" to "G" was in my opinion waste of time
and btw in our language we're using capitalized letters for names and at the beginning of a sentence
and 1 last thing: "A game of thrones: song of Ice&Fire" is same as "A Game of Thrones: Song of Ice&Fire" BUT Belerion isn't same as Balerion (and I have also Balerion written in my profile, I guess you also don't like when someone is changing your name, right?)
so if this was a try to insult me, then it was again really pathethic, if you want to insult me, do it like man (or woman or what are you)
In your language you capitalize letters at the beginning of sentences, eh? So what language are you currently writing in, because I don't see any caps at the beginning of your sentences, or much punctuation at all. Keep it coming, dude, you're making yourself look foolish all by yourself. Also, I don't give a crap about how your name is spelled, seeing as how I'm not even the one who committed the mortal crime of spelling it wrong.
You're failing to realize that this whole thing started with you whining about no PvP. It's pretty pointless to try and say that this is not what it's about now. If PvP isn't all that concerns you about this game, then give some solid NON-PVP examples of how it could be better.
Oh, and I'm betting you'll tell me to 'learn to read' at least 5-6 times in your next post.
Wow this is amazing. I have read all of this thread and even posted on it. I don't feel that being the size of middle earth is (described in tolkiens writings) that any company even sony would attempt to launch with a complete map, that would take years of programming and research to get the map correct.
So there is no pvp in launch, doesn't meen that pvp won't be introduced later when it fits the story line better (say towards the end of the trilogy when the huge battle takes place) or in the form of duels. The devs themselves have stated that pvp isn't an impossibility, jus that they prefer to not make this game based on pvp and to focus on the content. They are giving us three quests arcs to explore and are working hard on making this game true to the books. IMO if they were to concentrate on putting pvp in for launch it would take away from the content. I have played pvp games were after so long the community starts yelling for content, cause they want something to do besides pvp. So who knows what will happen. IMO i would rather have a game that is built right, plenty of content in quests and storyline, will run (hopefully) smoothly. Most pvp games that i have played are laggy and buggy. I am not saying all are just most of them that i have played. I feel that turbine had to make a choice and they choose to work on the content first in this game, make it the best they can then given the time between the start of the storyline and the end when the big war takes place to work on developing a pvp system that will fit into the storyline. This could take years to do for it will probably be that long before mordor and the easterners maps are introduced. In the meentime we can explore middle earth and prepare are caracters for the time that this happens.
As I have stated in my previous post I am not here to flame or to belittle anyone. I am just stating my views, I respect everyones right to do so.