Early Dragon's Dogma 2 Microtransactions, Performance Issues Invoke Milquewarm Capcom Response And U

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Early Dragon's Dogma 2 Microtransactions, Performance Issues Invoke Milquewarm Capcom Response And Updates | MMORPG.com

Rarely has a game seen so much criticism in its first 24 hours as Dragon's Dogma 2 to a slew of player complaints. Capcom's response leaves much to be desired.

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Neoyoshi

Rarely?

Overwatch 2 was burned to the ground within the first hours of it's Steam release.

Batman Arkham Knight saw mostly negative reviews within the first 12 hours.

The Last Of Us Remastered got dumped on almost immediately.

GTA: San Andreas Remastered was a dumpster fire that might still be burning to this day.

Diablo 4 on steam.... don't get me started.

There are more, these are just a big budget ones i...oh! Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint!

Still, there are so SO many more i haven't mentioned.

Poorly reviewed games aren't rare.... they occur alot but they all hit differently for different reason's.

Dragon's Dogma 2 might be the first in awhile to get poorly reviewed for a lot of the wrong reasons though; so the 'rarely' sentiment does hold there.

Or to be more explicate, it's not wholly the games fault, but Capcom cashing in a lot of that goodwill it had been building up for the last decade, in exchange for a quick cash return; and it backfired; horribly.

Folks would have been okey with the poor PC performance, they would have weathered it like they do any other initial PC launch that eventually is patched and fixed up, but if they don't remove a lot of those DLC's from the shop, and soon, like ( right now ) i fear the steam reviews will never recover.

Which sucks, because the game itself is amazing, I'm having a blast personally.

Kyleran

Wait, a Capcom game has micro transactions and pay for advantage designs? Say it isn't so.



"Still, seriously, who do big games companies think they are anymore, especially with the $70 price tag? "

In this case creators of a 9.5 rated game according to this site and well worth $70 if actually true.

"It turns out that there are things that you can do in the game, but can be made available more easily by paid microtransactions, using real money. The biggest ones? Fast travel, escapes from jail, and character customization" 

These seem pretty minor actually.

Neoyoshi

On the bright side, i did find myself a handsome lad in need and i'm bringing him back to the village.

Angrakhan

Yeah interesting. I actually didn't even know about the micro transaction stuff. I spent like 2 hours with the pre-release character creator making my character and main pawn, so I had no desire to change either of their appearances. Fast travel does seem rather expensive, so largely I just haven't used it. Finally I wasn't even aware you could get thrown in jail, so yeah I had no need to get out of said jail.

Anyway

There's another game that had micro transactions in a single player game and ditched them due to player demand. Shadow of War did exactly that, and the reviews subsequently changed for the better. Currently rated Very Positive on Steam. I recommend Capcom follows suit.

Regardless I'm enjoying the game and have no intention of purchasing micro transactions.

Eldrach

The microtransactions in this game provides 0 value - it just detracts from the experience. We now know they’ve mader it harder to get Ferrystones than necessary, to cause frustration and urge you to buy them (no need to argue here, it’s a given). The fact that you have to pay RL cash to re-customize is just plain greedy.

Performance issues? Why are people surprised? All of these games are released with Performance issues. Wait 3-4 months and ut will have improved

Raagnarz

The big thing is they purposely did not have micro-transactions in the review copies they sent out so that reviews couldn't warn them. They then launched with them. So they purposely deceived the public that MTX was even in the game and surprised them with it at launch after the relatively good streamer reviews were in despite them knowing nothing about the cash shop because it didn't exist in their review copy. Shady AF if you ask me and I won't be buying another Capcom game because of it.

Kyleran

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

Most people aren't thieves or layabouts and even pay their taxes when due.

Mensur

They get what they deserve...the save file is an absolute scam. Giving the game a 9.5 makes no sense

Viper482

People whine about some dumb shit. Who cares if you can buy some cheap items that anyone can get in game? It's not an MMO, there's no competition here. No one cries when someone uses cheat codes or mods in a single player game, why should you care if someone pays a few dollars for something in a single player game?

ZenJelly

Viper482 said:

why should you care if someone pays a few dollars for something in a single player game?

Thinking like that makes you the problem. If you can't learn from the past and see where this type of predatory behavior goes then that's on you. BUT here is a small insight, when the company sees you're willing to pay for it, then they will be willing to remove the free version in the next game.

Sovrath

Eldrach said:

The microtransactions in this game provides 0 value - it just detracts from the experience. We now know they’ve mader it harder to get Ferrystones than necessary, to cause frustration and urge you to buy them (no need to argue here, it’s a given). The fact that you have to pay RL cash to re-customize is just plain greedy.

Performance issues? Why are people surprised? All of these games are released with Performance issues. Wait 3-4 months and ut will have improved

The first came had it where you had to get ferrystones in game. Eventually they added, with a patch, a permanent ferrystone I'm betting the same thing will happen here.

Personally I'm ok with limited fast travel but obviously there are others where this is a big deal. I will say that the first game had only about 7 fast travel points so you still had to travel by land if you didn't put one of those port crystals close enough to where you wanted to go.

First game didn't have a means to re-customize your character though you could "start over" with a new character and do it that way. I did read something (and I don't know if this is true) that there is a "barber" in game that can change your look and all you have to do is pay in rift crystals. If that's the case then "problem solved" as you get those from a whole host of ways. At least in the first game.

Apparently you can get a face change for gold (?) as well in game?

Sovrath

Mensur said:

They get what they deserve...the save file is an absolute scam. Giving the game a 9.5 makes no sense

But "the game" is excellent. It's the company that's not so much.

Viper482

ZenJelly said:

Viper482 said:

why should you care if someone pays a few dollars for something in a single player game?

Thinking like that makes you the problem. If you can't learn from the past and see where this type of predatory behavior goes then that's on you. BUT here is a small insight, when the company sees you're willing to pay for it, then they will be willing to remove the free version in the next game.

Where did I say I bought anything? I don't need this junk and neither does anyone else. And if you want it you get it in game for free. Anyone else paying for it does not affect you in any way whatsoever.

Scot

Keep Calm and Carry on Posting!

uriel_mafess

You have 2 types of AAA games.

Games that devs make shit.
Games that execs make shit.

This is the second case.

Lobotomist

Game is frigging amazing though. Cant stop playing, have already over 16 hours....help me !!!!

StoneRoses

Oh my gosh the vomit folks spew!
MTX is 100% optional.
ALL resources in MTX available in game (FARM UP)
Call them suckers call them whatever you want!
MTX is nothing more than a convenience and it's the PLAYERS that allow themselves to fall victim if they claim to be a victim. THERE IS NO FINE PRINT! It's pretty obvious.
If you're not a Victim then you Cry R US all about it how predatory it is.
If you're not a victim HTF does it effect you? You're wallet is safe! No one is forcing you! Shit you do not even have to buy the game.

The options:
* You don't have to buy the game
* You do not have to buy anything from MTX
* You can use MODS to gain the same resources
* You do not have to use MODS to gain the same resources
* You can just simply play the game
* You can just continue to QQ all over the internet so folks like me can just laugh at you.

My favorite is folks complaining about the $70 price, meanwhile, arguing that folks should be able to work a livable wage, however, you want things to be cheap and affordable.

StoneRoses

Mensur said:

They get what they deserve...the save file is an absolute scam. Giving the game a 9.5 makes no sense

ARE YOU SERIOUS? I assumed you were one of the smart ones in the group! Nexus Mod has a DD2 Save Manager. WTF are you limited yourself?

StoneRoses

Kyleran said:

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

Most people aren't thieves or layabouts and even pay their taxes when due.

I have friends that still do this, I tell them not talk to me about it. These cats make more money than me too. However, as soon as I talk about the macros I make for these games, they condone my actions as if it were a sin. Then I remind them the difference between the two.

Angrakhan

Yeah as a developer myself I will never pirate anything. Games , movies, music, OS's, software. I pay for Photoshop. I pay for my DAW. I pay for my video editing software. No way am I pirating a game. Not an option ethically for me. I also don't order pizza for delivery and not tip the driver. Don't be a scumbag.

slowz2secret

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

only poor people pirate games.

waveslayer

slowz2secret said:

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

only poor people pirate games.

does that make you feel good about yourself?

are the micro transaction in your face or are they in a store that you can only find if you seek it out? In a single player game micro transactions dont bother me if I dont have them advertised to me in game...I will use WoWs shop as an example of not being in your face and nothing in the store needed in game

Bottom line;
Why should I care if someone else is stupid enough to give the company more cash after paying the 70 dollar entry fee when it dosnt effect my game at all

StoneRoses

slowz2secret said:

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

only poor people pirate games.

I would say folks that like to be cheap pirate games. I have friends who make more money than me and are a bunch of cheap skates.

StoneRoses

AdBlockerRules said:

StoneRoses said:

Kyleran said:

AdBlockerRules said:

Crazy to see people still buying singleplayer games when they can be downloaded for free.

Most people aren't thieves or layabouts and even pay their taxes when due.

I have friends that still do this, I tell them not talk to me about it. These cats make more money than me too. However, as soon as I talk about the macros I make for these games, they condone my actions as if it were a sin. Then I remind them the difference between the two.

Whatever makes you feel better about cheating.

What ever makes you feel better about stealing.

ValdemarJ

Games that have zero microtransactions or addons now could probably be counted on one hand, outside of tiny indie games.

Does it make people feel better if those are bundled in a set and called "deluxe" edition? Baldur's Gate 3 has microtransactions, but no one said a peep about that. That includes a "collector's edition" that was ≈$200 more than the digital deluxe edition and contained about $40 worth of physical swag.

Does it make them feel better if the game is "online", as if that's some magic justification for $25 sparkle ponies, character server transfers, or inventory space?

That's why I see it as a bunch of virtue signalling hypocrisy. We like to justify all those things in games we like and then act outraged in games we don't. It's dumb.