I'm not sure what was supposed to generate hate. Nothing wrong with liking Castlevania.
Or liking Star Citizen. I don't care for the dodgy business practices and questionable morals of one Mr. Roberts but everyone is free to like what they like and more power to them.
Now I'll go by back to being a bottom feeder and play some Manor Lords and Darkest Dungeon...
I'm not sure what was supposed to generate hate. Nothing wrong with liking Castlevania.
Or liking Star Citizen. I don't care for the dodgy business practices and questionable morals of one Mr. Roberts but everyone is free to like what they like and more power to them.
Now I'll go by back to being a bottom feeder and play some Manor Lords and Darkest Dungeon...
Its one of the few games where we get too much info.....Most of the time we dont care about the companies themselves or the people running them...just give us a good game...but SC boasts about how much money it has and its elitist attitude rubs some people the wrong way.
I play league of legends..1-2 games each day just to get the event points to unluck stuff.
And im waiting for the new league to start over in 10 days or so. But this is just to keep me sane for the moment.
I use to play warframe but got everything i wanted to one shot stuff. So thats boring now and i dident like the latest "expansion"
Then i have path of exile but i have played it since release and i cant be assed to do the leagues anymore..everytime i start a league then i get tired ans drowse away zzzzz. My brain cant keep it self awake in that game. Its like a bed time story for me.
I did Play ESO once but got bored of the game content i also hate the dual wielding cast system and animation cast.
I tryed Last Epoch but lost interrest in it also.
Im a old wow player from the release but blizzard is on life support today andi sold my account to cover the money i lost on D4
I completed Elden ring that was hard but great game, so im going for that expansion or elden ring 2 or what ever it is.
Conan exile was als a good game but the players hacked and cheated on every server.
Then i was on the Palworld wave but same same story.
I dont like solo games that much beside the elden ring but it was also a coop or kind of multiplayer game with the new addon hax.
For multi-player or mmos yea the market has been in milking the turd mode for a bit now. I have found plenty of other games to play all the same. So yea some of the industry is a real mess but not all of it. Cyberpunk, hogwarts and a few other have been good. I have also enjoyed Mechwarrior 5 (mostly base game as the dlc is grossly over priced). For mmos most if not all are either dead, dying or have a community that makes cancer look more fun.
Sure gaming does not put out the consistency of good franchises and new titles that it used to, but that does not mean there are no great titles each year. You do have to be more strict about checking them out though, it has become easier to bag a wrong 'un.
I have both Darkest Dungeon games and have hundreds of hours in them. I think you need to check the games you discarded without really checking them out properly.
Still haven't gotten to the second one but I intend to at some point. I've read it's a mash between DD1 and Slay the Spire (which I also loved). I have the opposite issue from the OP: too many great games, too little time, especially if you have obligations/hobbies outside gaming.
I love the updated graphics and don't mind the change in format but I had to uninstall Darkest Dungeon II as some of the design decisions as the drove me nuts.
I was traveling through the map and lost two members. All I wanted to do was make it to the tavern but I had to do these fights. I knew I couldn't win but the game makes you continue to fight. So I had to slowly watch the enemy chip away at the remaining two and essentially "wait out" the fight.
I wouldn't even have minded a "give up" button where I lost the remaining two members.
Unless there is one in which case I welcome the advice to where it is.
What you have said will make me give DD2 an extra check over before I buy it.
I have noticed that you have to be very careful nowadays about what dlc's you get with games. Many will put in a dlc that adds so much spiked difficulty that the game becomes a slog. I find Steam reviews the best way to spot these.
Sure gaming does not put out the consistency of good franchises and new titles that it used to, but that does not mean there are no great titles each year. You do have to be more strict about checking them out though, it has become easier to bag a wrong 'un.
There is a proliferation of junk, which is expected given how easy it is to make and publish that junk. But I find it easy to filter, given the available info online, plus the refund policies. Imo the ratio has decreased, but the number of good games produced each year as an absolute number have not.
Add to it each person's own history with games. If you've already experienced platformers, the next one might be more of the same to you, so you might see it as a bad or at least boring game. But objectively it could be a more polished and better example of its predecessors and to someone new to that genre or new to gaming, it can be wonderful. So what fraction of new games are exciting and fresh can be different for each person as well.
Call my paranoid and crazy but it seems like games are gimped down to normal players like me and you, but it seems like streamers has ton sof fun like i had before streaming was a thing and games where good..thats one theory i have been thinking on today..it makes sence.
So i come up with a game..ur a Orange and you need to watch a timer or else ur gona rot and start to wither...Its basicly all about the timer. Just be a orange beforew timer runs out !!! HOW BA DA !!
Why not simply play AA or older games? AAA(or AAAA as they call themselves lately) are indeed quite low quality as of late. Beyond all sheen, there's often nothing there.
Why not simply play AA or older games? AAA(or AAAA as they call themselves lately) are indeed quite low quality as of late. Beyond all sheen, there's often nothing there.
The thing is, there are a lot of bad older games as well. And great newer games.
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So i come up with a game..ur a Orange and you need to watch a timer or else ur gona rot and start to wither...Its basicly all about the timer. Just be a orange beforew timer runs out !!! HOW BA DA !!
Now I'm curious. Since you're an old WoW player, did you find this same Orange Timer mechanic as mind-numbingly boring there as well? I mean this is not that different to a DPS race to get a raid boss down and beat the enrage timer, except that in BWL the boss is a dragon instead of an orange. Really, much of WoW raiding is some play on this mechanic, no?
The whole prefacing about the 'banana clicker' game is mostly emblematic of the ease and super low entry point in making a video game these days.
So while i agree with the sentiment that there is just far too much low-quality junk masquerading as 'video games' on Steam; this is really the fault of the industry just losing it's ability to manage the chaos that comes with handing over the keys to the 5 year old.
We are very much once again at that point in time where video game development is the 'wild west' where anyone can make anything; with no regard for quality, standards, or even ethical business practices.
But it's not as bad as it could be, because it at least there are people out there who still care about some structure and order; it is just about trying to find that place and latching onto it for dear life and apply some life support whenever it is required.
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It's not just the games industry and it's not just today - this is one of the points where I disagree with OP. In the 1960's a music composer made this:
that could provoke discussions whether they are "game" enough. But lots of people like them.
Now I do not consider the banana timer a game nor 4:33 music, but I won't be the one to draw the line for everyone. Because then someone else might want to draw the line over something *I* like. I'd rather skip that "game" for myself and go play Manor Lords or Helldivers or Baldurs Gate 3 (intentionally picked 3 recent games everyone would recognise at random, and are widely considered good), and let others decide for themselves.
At my Conservatory we actually spoke in depth about 4'33".
It's important to put that into context. Obviously, John Cage didn't "write" that per se. But he did create "the work" as a way for the audience to take in the sounds of what was going on around them. A moment of silence where the audience could just concentrate, or let themselves relax, and note the world around them.
I went to a John Cage music festival in my (if memory serves) Sophomore year of college. There was more traditional music using instruments but also some experimental pieces.
To his credit, there was a performance of one of his works where one of the audience members got locked in the bathroom which was located in the part of the hall where people entered. There was a wall that separated that section from the seats. She started banging on the door for someone to let her out and it was caught on the recording of the work.
When this was noticed the sound engineers and players offered to record/play the piece again so that there wouldn't be banging and yelling but he said "no" as that was what happened in the performance and therefore was a part of the experience.
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It doesn't really change what I was getting at though, rather reinforces it:
- It's not just video games and it's not just "these days" - though the credentials of John Cage are most certainly different than those of whoever made the banana thingy, and that's often enough to quickly tell apart quirky art from junk.
- You don't want any rando (including me, I still don't consider 4:33 art, some do etc) telling you how and what to experience in any form of art, including games. And we have seen, even in this thread, posters judging others for what they like to play.
I completely agree with your point. I just wanted to put it into context because people hear (or do they?) 4' 33" and think "wtf, damn artists blah blah blah."
When in reality, no matter if a person likes the idea or not, sitting quietly and listening to the world around you, no speaking, can be a rather interesting experience.
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Why not simply play AA or older games? AAA(or AAAA as they call themselves lately) are indeed quite low quality as of late. Beyond all sheen, there's often nothing there.
The thing is, there are a lot of bad older games as well. And great newer games.
Taking up spelling and grammar lessons would be a good alternative hobby.
When I saw that I burst out laughing because I was thinking the very same thing but no one really points these things out because it is considered rude. Once upon a time people took pride in what they wrote but that time has long gone and now what the person is trying to convey is more important than the form.
I check every post for spelling errors and make corrections because I respect the people reading my posts. Respect is a 2 way street. Almost all my posts or threads have multiple edits because I am a bit of an idiot that likes to change a sentence if I think there is a slight mistake or that the meaning was unclear. I am of course at the other end of the spectrum.
However we live in the internet age and there are people of many countries whose first language or even 4th isn't English. We should therefore take that into account or ask for clarification. I come from Asia and English is just one of the many languages I read and write. However perhaps because of my upbringing I am constantly worried about what impression I create when writing. I don't expect that in others.
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Nothing wrong with liking Castlevania.
Now I'll go by back to being a bottom feeder and play some Manor Lords and Darkest Dungeon...
Its one of the few games where we get too much info.....Most of the time we dont care about the companies themselves or the people running them...just give us a good game...but SC boasts about how much money it has and its elitist attitude rubs some people the wrong way.
I have noticed that you have to be very careful nowadays about what dlc's you get with games. Many will put in a dlc that adds so much spiked difficulty that the game becomes a slog. I find Steam reviews the best way to spot these.
Add to it each person's own history with games. If you've already experienced platformers, the next one might be more of the same to you, so you might see it as a bad or at least boring game. But objectively it could be a more polished and better example of its predecessors and to someone new to that genre or new to gaming, it can be wonderful. So what fraction of new games are exciting and fresh can be different for each person as well.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
So while i agree with the sentiment that there is just far too much low-quality junk masquerading as 'video games' on Steam; this is really the fault of the industry just losing it's ability to manage the chaos that comes with handing over the keys to the 5 year old.
We are very much once again at that point in time where video game development is the 'wild west' where anyone can make anything; with no regard for quality, standards, or even ethical business practices.
But it's not as bad as it could be, because it at least there are people out there who still care about some structure and order; it is just about trying to find that place and latching onto it for dear life and apply some life support whenever it is required.
Fishing on Gilgamesh since 2013
Fishing on Bronzebeard since 2005
Fishing in RL since 1992
Born with a fishing rod in my hand in 1979
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I check every post for spelling errors and make corrections because I respect the people reading my posts. Respect is a 2 way street. Almost all my posts or threads have multiple edits because I am a bit of an idiot that likes to change a sentence if I think there is a slight mistake or that the meaning was unclear. I am of course at the other end of the spectrum.
However we live in the internet age and there are people of many countries whose first language or even 4th isn't English. We should therefore take that into account or ask for clarification. I come from Asia and English is just one of the many languages I read and write. However perhaps because of my upbringing I am constantly worried about what impression I create when writing. I don't expect that in others.