Helldivers 2 Faces Outrage, Review Hellbombs After Announcing Mandatory Playstation Network Account

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Helldivers 2 Faces Outrage, Review Hellbombs After Announcing Mandatory Playstation Network Account Linking | MMORPG.com

Nearly three months after its launch, Helldivers 2 players will finally be required to link their Playstation Network accounts or be locked out of the game.

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ZenJelly

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

jonesyorg

Pretty confident the author understands. X by itself just looks dumb, like a variable in a sentence.

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ValdemarJ

Didn't realize people still use Twitter.

Kyleran

ValdemarJ said:

Didn't realize people still use Twitter.

Only the silly people do.

riningear

jonesyorg said:

Pretty confident the author understands. X by itself just looks dumb, like a variable in a sentence.

I'm just trying to be cautious, X is only safe to use once every three months, per current harm reduction standards...

Celcius

ZenJelly said:

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

No one calls it X. It is Twitter.

Kyleran

Back to the news story itself, pretty much a case of

Scot

ZenJelly said:

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

I like Twitter-X don't ask me why.

Scot

I do wonder where the gaming community is going when you review bomb a game for something like this. Presumably this is a game you have been really enjoying and intend to get hours and hours more fun out of it. Setting up a new account is a pain but this instinct to use social media to vent your annoyance at volume 10 is childish.

Mind you they should not implement this until there is a way for those 90 countries to create an account, that would be grossly unfair.

niceguy3978

ValdemarJ said:

Didn't realize people still use Twitter.

They don't. It no longer exists.

ValdemarJ

Celcius said:

ZenJelly said:

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

No one calls it X. It is Twitter.

I like to call it Xitter (zitter) and the posts are Zits. It's an acne based social platform!

ValdemarJ

Kyleran said:

Back to the news story itself, pretty much a case of

I think the problems stem from the account tie-in not being mandatory at the get go. It was optional.

Then Sony published the game to regions that they don't support PSN accounts, which creates an issue for some group of people, even if it's a small minority.

On top of all that, there are quite a few Helldivers PC players that don't own PlayStations. Several people I know were under the impression one had to actually own a PlayStation to create a "PlayStation" network account, which isn't an unreasonable assumption, but not true.

Top it all off with understanding that the game runs fine and players can enjoy it without the account and people suspect this has to do with Sony data harvesting and inflating user numbers for investors. That perception rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

In all, I don't think it's a huge deal. I'm the type that makes sure all my accounts are linked whenever I'm in an account admin screen because I like things to "just work". But I can totally understand the sour taste that Sony's ultimatums leave.

Aeander

This is why player reviews are actually less valid than critic ones, not more.

BrotherMaynard

I didn't follow the Helldivers release, but the couple of times I looked at it at Steam, there was nothing about mandatory linking of PSN and Steam accounts. Many other games require their own accounts, so it's nothing new, but I don't know any that make linking with your Steam account a mandatory step and I sure as hell don't know any that make that step mandatory AFTER they sell you the game (and possibly you spending more cash in the game).

I won't bother posting the Darth Vader meme, suffice to say that the devs and Sony are asking for big trouble with this step both for the data and consumer protection reasons. At least in the EU. Fundamentally changing the product you bought after the purchase will need at the very least an option for a full refund to those who bought the game earlier and do not consent to link their accounts (and data) with Sony.

Theocritus

Scot said:

ZenJelly said:

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

I like Twitter-X don't ask me why.

Im surprised it ever took off at all...A cesspool of vipers and trolls.

mitech616

I'm a kid and I need something to feign outrage over. Anything, just literally anything. No pizza in the cafeteria? OUTRAGED!

Take a deep breath and go kill some bugs. Sony doesn't give a crap about your Helldivers 2 playtime data. You're not important. You don't matter. Play the game... or don't. The world will keep spinning and life will go on.

Quizzical

Scot said:

ZenJelly said:

It's not X/Twitter. It's not Twitter at all, it's just X. Why is that so hard to understand.

I like Twitter-X don't ask me why.

I call it Ex-Twitter.

skakruk

“This is our main way to protect players from griefing and abuse by enabling the banning of players that engage in that type of behaviour."

Stopping a ton of people from playing is one way of doing that, I guess.

Kyleran

Not sure when this was added to Steam but they really make you know now as part of 3 banners down the page.

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: nProtect GameGuard

Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)

Requires agreement to a 3rd-party EULA

HELLDIVERS™ 2 EULA

sabrefoxx

Kyleran said:

Not sure when this was added to Steam but they really make you know now as part of 3 banners down the page.

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: nProtect GameGuard

Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)

Requires agreement to a 3rd-party EULA

HELLDIVERS™ 2 EULA

Yeah I don't recall seeing that when it first came out. Maybe they added it after the fact maybe not.

Asm0deus

sadly if
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they will not change this not all
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allowed countries are actually allowed
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if they don't own a PS4 or PS5 Ukraine
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one of examples this is what I got from
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local support thank you hell diers 2
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Arrowhead and Sony for not better
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disclosing that the game will be locked
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from me if I don't own a console bro it
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literally says right here in response to
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your request we would like to inform you
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that the registration of an account of
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the region of Ukraine is only possible
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through the console itself

Vrika

Scot said:

I do wonder where the gaming community is going when you review bomb a game for something like this. Presumably this is a game you have been really enjoying and intend to get hours and hours more fun out of it. Setting up a new account is a pain but this instinct to use social media to vent your annoyance at volume 10 is childish.

Mind you they should not implement this until there is a way for those 90 countries to create an account, that would be grossly unfair.

I think negatively reviewing the game because you need to link/create a new account to continue playing is stupid.

But since it looks like Sony has decided to region block part of their players, imho that's a good reason for everyone playing Helldivers to leave a negative review: If we allow devs to remove game access for reason like this, then there's a risk next time those devs will remove our access to our purchased game. There are some acceptable reason for removing access to a game, but this isn't one of them.

Scot

Vrika said:

Scot said:

I do wonder where the gaming community is going when you review bomb a game for something like this. Presumably this is a game you have been really enjoying and intend to get hours and hours more fun out of it. Setting up a new account is a pain but this instinct to use social media to vent your annoyance at volume 10 is childish.

Mind you they should not implement this until there is a way for those 90 countries to create an account, that would be grossly unfair.

I think negatively reviewing the game because you need to link/create a new account to continue playing is stupid.

But since it looks like Sony has decided to region block part of their players, imho that's a good reason for everyone playing Helldivers to leave a negative review: If we allow devs to remove game access for reason like this, then there's a risk next time those devs will remove our access to our purchased game. There are some acceptable reason for removing access to a game, but this isn't one of them.

I see where you are coming from, but you have to trash it to make that point. This may help make sure this does not happen again, I just wish that could be done without effecting the score of the quality of the game which is what the score is meant to be for. Go on Twitter-X, that's what its for.

Neoyoshi

So... when this game launched 3 months ago, to wildly overwhelming success and praise; were these 3 sections of player-agreements there in any shape or form?



Could someone kindly walk be through this games launch history? because it feels to me like what is going on is a 'fast one' Sony is pulling and has put it's game developers into a very precarious corner (which Sony is best known for doing)

I just would like to know if the Developers at any point during the early launch days; made a clear message of this having to happen well in advance or not, because i'm reading about a 'grace period' - and i'm wondering if this was something that Sony sprung onto its players out of left-field or not.

I am also trying to ascertain if having a PSN account is even necessary or a requirement to play the game(like, on PC?) Specifically if the person is playing on via steam- because that to me seems really strange - seeing as how Valve has these same type of tools for use.

Also i found this interesting: