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whats with all the bashing?
croyal
Member Posts: 136
why does just about everyone here treat WoW like it was one of the worst mmo's to ever come out?? to my knowlege this is Blizz's first mmo and its one of the best. all the people complaning about no end-game wait a while for the expansion. just please quit bashing the game. when half of the threads are about how "bad" the game is that can scare away people who may want to try it and are new to mmo's.
I end by saying if you are going to bash the game use facts and god reasons of why the game is bad just dont post lies.
im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy
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The people who don't like this game are people who a)get bored easily and b) are fans from other MMORPGs or MORPGs.
"A-People" ask for more conent and are never satisify with what is already there. Reality is that they never liked the game in the first place. "B-people" envious at the fact that their game lacks the sheer numbers WoW has OR/AND they are shallow self-center players who create their own norms to single out other players who don't agree with them or don't play the games they play.
Thus, such behavior will continue until poster stops getting attention or gets tired and leaves that particular forum.
For this site WoW is kinda a niche market. Long term MMORPG players tend to find little new or overly interesting in it. New players like it for its ease to get into, but that turns off others. Some peopel play on certain servers that are down quite regularily and are bitter from it. Others are on servers that were mid population and are now low pop and hardly playable now...thanks to the constant release of new realms (me -.-).
Others either love the BGs, hate them because of the exploiting, or miss the random PvP that used to exist pre HKs. But, overall i think it comes down to the fact that many ppl post without thinking :P
I liked WoW, but no longer enough to continue paying for it. All of the recent MC my guild has done have ended badly and not because oif wipes etc. Server crashes, loot bugs, and lag that makes it uplayable have plague our MC runs. We have been told drops the ML could see but no one could loot would be sent in the mail but they were not. It is becoming more and more common to zone into an instnace and end up flaoting dead across the continent making you unable to play that character for hours.
At this point, IMO, they need to bug fix before christmas release of other games to retain their player base. After that add story content, even if the quests involved folllow the same kill xxx of xx to get reward +story.
/shrug
Only reading this forum because my main is floating as a ghost across the continent for the 3rd time in 48 hours.....
There are several reasons why some peaple make negative posts about WoW. Some of them honestly don't like fast paced games (go figure). Some peaple want a game with more depth (understandable). Some of them are ragging on the game in a sad attempt to make themselves seem "hardcore." Basically they are saying sayiing "I am so hardcore and 1337 that I would never play a kiddie game like WoW." To be honest I think 90% of the posts bashing it are of the latter variety.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
I must say WoW is a real fun game, i played it for about 3 and a half months. It was realy fun in that time, but after that it was a bit slow not alot to do let say lol.
but thay have the money and there are new content coming out, plus i heard somting about and expansion aswel. So I will definitly play WoW again just giving a bit of time so there is some more content.
In anycase it was realy realy fun wile it lasted
the people who complain about not enough skill required or the leveling goes way too fast, just need to get out more. this game is for casual players. im in college and i might play the game a few hours a night. prolly skip 2 days a week or so. maybe on a satuerday night at like 2am i might play until 7am or something before i pass out. this isnt for the people who live/breathe MMORPG's and treat it like it is real life. go play everquest if you like that...
Ha! True. I should have said "fast paced MMORPG." It's no Diablo for certain.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Uh fast paced sure, I played a while back and it wasn't a fast paced game
WoW sucks becuase the PvP is so ironic for a warcraft game, no player looting, no rswitching sides of a town after a raid (even on a pvp server), pkus hardly any equip. damage after being PKed. Plus, they really dumbed down the game, charecter creation sucks. No customazation at all. If you players think WoW pvp is great you will have a heart atack if your carebear butt tries Shadowbane. Oh & I fogot Battle Grounds (the CTF one just maked me laugh) you have to PvP for hours like 7 days a week to not lose honor points.
Ya I didn't think casual gamers played for hours, but only for 30 mins-1 hour or 2.
Are you kidding? How many hours apon hours do you have to spend in Strat, Schol, DM, MC, UBRS,ect to hopefully get a chance that the MOB your after will drop what you need and that Hopefually you will win the roll against the other people that need the same thing...Have you ever tried to get a the whole set for Valor? or Lightforge or other set items? Have you ever tried to get a Unstop mace? I could go on and on if this game is not for powergamers I dont know what is. Its a farming madhouse and requires your to run hours after hours of Instances if you want to have End Game equipment and not some Crappy greens off the AH. Even if your bought all your END game equipment of the AH it still would require a gang of cash witch is a Farm madhouse of its own.
For the OP maybe its because we expected more from this game and were given less...For me the Class Nerf after Nerf all except the all might perfect shaman (which I was btw lvl 60 on Illidown as we call it), The PVP let down (we pvp to be on a score board? no ganing/losing land, items, territorys, bases/castles/towns?), The lack of any detail on future plans with the game? (IE dah a Expansion), The COMMUNITY.... the most horrible community ever Period... I could go on and on about the things that drove me and others away, over all the bads just outweighed the goods. And there were alot of "goods" about WOW so that says alot.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
On 10 persons that dislike WoW strongly, you will likely get 11 reasons as to why they dislike it.
A casual friendly game is a good thing. A casual friendly game at the expense of the hardcores is a bad thing. A casual friendly game at the expense of the hardcores and favorising casuals raiders is extremely bad.
And so on.
If WoW would have been release in 1999, I would be praising it to no end. But in 2004...hmmm...those concepts and designs are quite old.
WoW is a monetary success, however it is costing Blizzard a heavy fee in fanbase...many choices...casual friendly and raid oriented at the same time is an extremely bad choice, it will aggravate both the raiders and the casuals in general. Give it time to mature in their mind. Time is making more raid haters. WoW is collecting fees from pirated Diablo copies, from steal Warcraft copies and so on...yet, they do it in a way to leave a bad taste in the mouth of the players, a really bad choice IMO, as they will lose future sells, for a little more profits now (raiders that keep playing rather then be done with the game, but losing a HUGE part of peoples that are awfully displeased with this raiding ending rather then be happy and excited about future Blizzard products...bad choice).
Is WoW outstanding? If we talk in a monetary way, yes, if we talk about in game opportunities, nope, quite average. Blizzard fanbase is the main difference that explain why WoW got that many fans and a game like CoH got merely a few hundreds K. IMO, CoH is outmatching WoW on nearly every level, gamewise.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
People like me hate the game because the only good class in the whole game is Shaman. Also, most people don't find going to the same dungeon over and over to get a 3% drop fun. <Don't tell me you have never done that before.> The players are immature morons, or total losers <ect. Hordemaster on Uldum server.>
Are you kidding? How many hours apon hours do you have to spend in Strat, Schol, DM, MC, UBRS,ect to hopefully get a chance that the MOB your after will drop what you need and that Hopefually you will win the roll against the other people that need the same thing...Have you ever tried to get a the whole set for Valor? or Lightforge or other set items? Have you ever tried to get a Unstop mace? I could go on and on if this game is not for powergamers I dont know what is. Its a farming madhouse and requires your to run hours after hours of Instances if you want to have End Game equipment and not some Crappy greens off the AH. Even if your bought all your END game equipment of the AH it still would require a gang of cash witch is a Farm madhouse of its own.
For the OP maybe its because we expected more from this game and were given less...For me the Class Nerf after Nerf all except the all might perfect shaman (which I was btw lvl 60 on Illidown as we call it), The PVP let down (we pvp to be on a score board? no ganing/losing land, items, territorys, bases/castles/towns?), The lack of any detail on future plans with the game? (IE dah a Expansion), The COMMUNITY.... the most horrible community ever Period... I could go on and on about the things that drove me and others away, over all the bads just outweighed the goods. And there were alot of "goods" about WOW so that says alot.
well many people have found strategy's to beat shamans. but god forbid you have to think to win right? also its a CASUAL type game so the l33t/hardcore people wouldnt own Azeroth. also the final thing in your post the community that is not Blizz's fault its the people who play.
im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy
Uh fast paced sure, I played a while back and it wasn't a fast paced game
WoW sucks becuase the PvP is so ironic for a warcraft game, no player looting, no rswitching sides of a town after a raid (even on a pvp server), pkus hardly any equip. damage after being PKed. Plus, they really dumbed down the game, charecter creation sucks. No customazation at all. If you players think WoW pvp is great you will have a heart atack if your carebear butt tries Shadowbane. Oh & I fogot Battle Grounds (the CTF one just maked me laugh) you have to PvP for hours like 7 days a week to not lose honor points.
there are many many different items to equip(you cant get everything from a vendor you have to EARN it). also player looting would destroy the game just think you just got that great new item you go afk in a contested city 5 minutes later some 60 somethin comes around kills you and takes you precious item. also the high ranks in the honor were made for more for the hardcores(either that or the hardcores made it their own)
im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy
Well honestly, being level 60 is kinda boring. The PVP and the honor system is crap. The only reason I stay is cause I enjoy rerolling! You level so fast, I end up skipping over so many quests. Everytime I reroll a new character, I always try to redo the quests I never completed before with previous alts. That's what I love about WoW.
Cause I mean, I can't stand redoing the same instances more than 5 times. It was bad enough I redid BRD, LRBS, UBRS, Scholo to complete my Beaststalker set for my hunter. I still haven't tried to do that for my Pally cause it's BORING. But hey... we'll see.
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Stealth - Ambush - Hemorrhage - Sinister Strike x2 - Cold Blood - Eviscerate - Vanish - Preparation - Cold Blood - Ambush - ... you're dead! :P
Who would be stupid enough to go AFK for even 1 minute after getting a great item? If not looting, they could put in rading makes a town turn sides if the raiders win.
Who would be stupid enough to go AFK for even 1 minute after getting a great item? If not looting, they could put in rading makes a town turn sides if the raiders win.
ok, for the second time WoW was made with casual players in mind. if they made it so towns could go to the other faction all the new people or people rolling an alt could not do their quest's. also people go afk all the time, even in a contested city you are not safe(the gaurds can easily be killed), so that means a higher lvl player could kill you(even if you were there you wouldnt have a chance any way if they are "???") and take all your money/items that would be horibly unbalanced and would make pvp not worth it.
im not over powered! look it took me 10 minutes to kill that guy
You obviously have little knowledge of this game... Ofcourse shamans are beatable but does that mean there not overpowerd?.. Put two very skilled PVPers agianst each others any class vs Shaman... More times then not the shaman will win, with a spell disrupt w/high damage, Purge (buff remover), 2 Snares 1 with high damage, Spell aborb totem, Agi and Str buff totem, Insane Meele damage proc (Wind Fury), Poison remove totem, Run speed buff(ghost Wolf), A DOT, Mail armor, and last but not least they can Heal themselfs....... Naw there not overpowerd..... Take it from a former lvl 60 Shaman on Illidown I was overpowerd...
I still cant fathom how you say this game was built for the Casual Gamer... Casual gamers dont want to run Instance after Instance after Instance till they know each brick in the place, in order to get the CHANCE to roll on something that just MIGHT drop for them....Also read the Chat channels lately? When wast eh last time you saw a guild looking for "Casual Gamers" to join there guild...
It is Blizzards fault for how the community behaves, go play Anarchy Online sometime and start cussing up a storm and using bad language... Wait about 20 mins and I can almost promise you that you will be visited "IN GAME" by a CSR or above... Does this happen in Blizzard? Hell no you might get a Email warning the next day if enough people complain about you, Might being the key word here.. Simple put Blizzard does not police there game correctly , and they should.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
besides creating a larger MMO marked, WoW is the biggest slap in the face to people who tried to bring MMOs forward.
Because WoW is many steps back for MMOs. Long forgotten is the "creating worlds", "building communities" and instead replaced by "unlimted amount of retarded fed-ex quest", "steril non dynamic world" and "waste of time combat system".
WoW is charming as hell. its graphics are beautiful. its interface is simple and its easy to control and it has a fun sand box which is fun to walk around it - but when all is said and done, the quests.. the very and only meat of the game fails due to repeittiation.
there are flaws in WoW on every level. From the exceptional but horrible flawed PvP side of the game, to the lack of foresight in certain discisions about the PvE.
When all is said and done, I think the biggest problem with WoW is not - why is there not enouge end game content, but why is the game not fun enouge to go back and play, as another race and class. its simply a game driven by power. get the best gear, waste youre life, do 8 hours raid instances for little pixels they call items and go out and own some noob who does not has as much time on his hands as you. thats the point.
If you play a human warrior and I do the same, then we will feel, look and have played the same by the end of the game(lvl 60). WoW holds the players hand in an incredible linear world. everything is based around levels, instances has timers, you got everything split up in zones and the hole mentality of a community and the lack of character customization helps make the experience bad.
WoW is nice for the guy who likes to pay for a over grown diablo 2, because thats what wow is. Thats not a bad thing though. D2 sold 18 million copies and outnumbered far better RPGs like Balurs gate, final fantasy and so on. Its just not more depth.
The crafting is not really excisting. the hole BoE and BoP systems are crap and help make the game feel, its on that linear path again.
same with combat. little complexity, easy to get into. the hole fundamental in its very poorly and unbalanced-with-little-variations talents(also a trade from diablo) its a game by lvl and gear and luck. proc, crits and so on.... it doesnt matter if you win or lose in WoW. all you need to do is farm retarded honor points for more worthless gear.
again - lack of player housing, lack of community... cities steril. massive horde/alliance outnumbered problems, and cities which are either to full or to dead. Darnassus - IF for example.
Theres much less features in WoW than there was in UO. There is much less mechanics and sense of achivement. and UO came out in 97. WoW is just simple like D2. Take a quest, and go kill and collect. Thats all there is to wow. you run around with tons of idiotic time sinks. world is beautiful but its just a virtual sandbox you cant interacte with.
this is why people have a problem with wow.
I played this game for a few months and have to say its a great game. However blizzard need to fix some problems they have such as bugs that have been there since beta, balancing out the horde and alliance and the servers being down way too much, although they have made up for this somewhat by giving all customers extra days on their account.
As long as there is a slight problem with something, people will complain.