Logitech G515 Lightspeed Review | MMORPG.com

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Logitech G515 Lightspeed Review | MMORPG.com

Logitech just released its latest gaming keyboard, the Logitech G515 Lightspeed. Coming in at $140, Matt breaks down whether this is worth picking up in this review!

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Rhime

Garbage...long live the G510.

GameByNight

Rhime said:

Garbage...long live the G510.

Heresy! Long live the G710+!

Tiller

GameByNight said:

Rhime said:

Garbage...long live the G510.

Heresy! Long live the G710+!

Agree, mine lived a long time, still works but I put it into retirement. Logitech's early entry into mechanical gaming KB, started out great, they just built them too well (minus the crappy keycaps), I'm sure their quality has gone back down hill again though xD.

Rhime

GameByNight said:

Rhime said:

Garbage...long live the G510.

Heresy! Long live the G710+!

54 macro G keys want to argue with you!

Tiller

Rhime said:

GameByNight said:

Rhime said:

Garbage...long live the G510.

Heresy! Long live the G710+!

54 macro G keys want to argue with you!

I had a G15 and never really used all those G keys tbh. Most logitech KB sucked back then anyways.  Within a year the lettering came off the keycaps on my G15. I emailed them and they were like sorry out of warranty. Found out 2 years later people complained so much they sent everyone better keycaps, of course I missed out because by then they stopped making them. Kinda made me not want to buy another Logitech KB, until 710+ came along. It lasted for years until recently I busted a few keys playing Throne & Liberty lol. Again I found out this was also a known issue, it just didn't happen to me for 10 years. I moved on, I could probably replace the keycaps but I figure it's just time to retire it.

Scot

Whats the best Logitech for gaming that has a numpad? I have a LT right now, which I had to go back to when my latest Keyboard went down. Always keep a spare keyboard and mouse guys! I have worn through the black colour on the "5" to the plastic underneath!

I notice the G710 and G510 has a NP, which is a good start!

Angrakhan

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

Scot

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

Wired is still better for twitch, everything being wireless is quite pointless unless you intend to play from your couch in which case you would be using a controller. 

Vrika

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

With better wireless keyboards you can't forget to charge it because you'll get alerts when it's time to charge, and charging is done simply by attaching an USB cable for a couple of hours, basically turning the wireless keyboard into a wired one for the time it takes to charge.

Also interference is rarely an issue, and even if it is, it's easy to solve by using USB extension cable to bring the receiver closer to the keyboard.

If you don't ever want to move the keyboard and don't mind the wire constantly running into it, then you don't have much any reason why you'd get a wireless keyboard. But nowadays wireless keyboards don't really have the issues you think they have unless you go out of your way to buy the cheapest chinese junk keyboard you can find.

cheetum

Scot said:

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

Wired is still better for twitch, everything being wireless is quite pointless unless you intend to play from your couch in which case you would be using a controller. 

You're living in the past my dude. There is virtually no discernable difference in latency between wired and wireless for most high-end gaming peripherals these days. In some tests wireless even showed faster response times. A wired peripheral isn't instant it still has to send the signal over a wire. What you said would have been true maybe 10 years ago but definitely not anymore.

Terazon

@GameByNight You should do a wireless versus wired keyboard and mouse latency test study. 
Would be a fun article. 

Angrakhan

Vrika said:

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

With better wireless keyboards you can't forget to charge it because you'll get alerts when it's time to charge, and charging is done simply by attaching an USB cable for a couple of hours, basically turning the wireless keyboard into a wired one for the time it takes to charge.

Also interference is rarely an issue, and even if it is, it's easy to solve by using USB extension cable to bring the receiver closer to the keyboard.

If you don't ever want to move the keyboard and don't mind the wire constantly running into it, then you don't have much any reason why you'd get a wireless keyboard. But nowadays wireless keyboards don't really have the issues you think they have unless you go out of your way to buy the cheapest chinese junk keyboard you can find.

Oh I'm speaking from experience, though. I had a Logitech wireless headset, which for sure there's a benefit to wireless there. It had a USB dongle. Dongle died. Headset is useless. Replacement cost for the dongle is 75% of the price for a new headset. Why would I believe a wireless keyboard won't have the same issues? My current headset is Bluetooth and frequently loses its mind requiring a reboot of the machine before it will reconnect. Bluetooth is a pretty flaky technology. It works until it doesn't, then it's a royal pain and you just wish it had a USB cable.  Best part is when it freaks out mid meeting.

Short of your cat chewing through a cable wired works. Ask me how I know about the cat thing.

Tiller

Vrika said:

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

With better wireless keyboards you can't forget to charge it because you'll get alerts when it's time to charge, and charging is done simply by attaching an USB cable for a couple of hours, basically turning the wireless keyboard into a wired one for the time it takes to charge.

Also interference is rarely an issue, and even if it is, it's easy to solve by using USB extension cable to bring the receiver closer to the keyboard.

If you don't ever want to move the keyboard and don't mind the wire constantly running into it, then you don't have much any reason why you'd get a wireless keyboard. But nowadays wireless keyboards don't really have the issues you think they have unless you go out of your way to buy the cheapest chinese junk keyboard you can find.

Even some cheap Chinese gaming KBs are pretty good these days. Apparently the bar for most enthusiast gaming KBs has been set by Wooting as of late, and some are giving them a run for their money.

Tiller

Terazon said:

@GameByNight You should do a wireless versus wired keyboard and mouse latency test study. 
Would be a fun article. 

I mean it's not going to be supper noticeable for most gaming applications that you guys play.  Plugged in the polling rate goes through the roof any on any decent KB, but again unless you are a competitive fps at highest refresh rates possible it's not going to mater for you. My current KB plugged in has an 8k polling rate.

Vrika

Angrakhan said:

Vrika said:

Angrakhan said:

Wireless why? You plop it on your desk and never move it. Now it's just an invitation for interference and forgetting to recharge the battery. I'll save the money and take a wired version, thanks. HEY! Get off my lawn!

With better wireless keyboards you can't forget to charge it because you'll get alerts when it's time to charge, and charging is done simply by attaching an USB cable for a couple of hours, basically turning the wireless keyboard into a wired one for the time it takes to charge.

Also interference is rarely an issue, and even if it is, it's easy to solve by using USB extension cable to bring the receiver closer to the keyboard.

If you don't ever want to move the keyboard and don't mind the wire constantly running into it, then you don't have much any reason why you'd get a wireless keyboard. But nowadays wireless keyboards don't really have the issues you think they have unless you go out of your way to buy the cheapest chinese junk keyboard you can find.

Oh I'm speaking from experience, though. I had a Logitech wireless headset, which for sure there's a benefit to wireless there. It had a USB dongle. Dongle died. Headset is useless. Replacement cost for the dongle is 75% of the price for a new headset. Why would I believe a wireless keyboard won't have the same issues? My current headset is Bluetooth and frequently loses its mind requiring a reboot of the machine before it will reconnect. Bluetooth is a pretty flaky technology. It works until it doesn't, then it's a royal pain and you just wish it had a USB cable.  Best part is when it freaks out mid meeting.

Short of your cat chewing through a cable wired works. Ask me how I know about the cat thing.

I agree with you that bluetooth is not good technology. I'm currently using a bluetooth headset that could be wireless with a 5 meter long audio cable instead because with cable it just works better.

Bluetooth's troubles don't mean that wireless keyboards and mice that come with their own dedicated dongles would have similar connection problems.

Vrika

Terazon said:

You should do a wireless versus wired keyboard and mouse latency test study. 
Would be a fun article. 

rtings.com does latency tests for keyboards if you want to look at those results.

Usually the results are that with some keyboards wireless has worse latency than wired, but with others the difference between them is small. Bluetooth should not be used for gaming since it has always worse latency than either wired or a dedicated dongle.

Link to their latency comparison tool:
 https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/1-3-1/graph/23182/single-key-latency-graph/logitech-g915-lightspeed-vs-asus-rog-falchion-rx-low-profile/1686/49976

Tiller

Honestly folks you really should be looking at hall-effect KB as replacing mechanical. With rapid trigger you can set the actuation point. It's kinda like a having cheater KB

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

https://wooting-web-files.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/public/store/80he_media/RapidTrigger.mp4