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Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker's Lopprits Deserve An Apology For Your Mean Comments | MMORPG.com

One more spicy Endwalker take before FFXIV's new expansion launches: The Lopprits were meant to make you angry.

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Ridrith

Endwalker was an expansion that totally lost me, and after that one, I gave up Final Fantasy entirely. To me, the story was bad and had been bad for some time. There's absolutely zero stakes. The core set of characters are so generically altruistic that it's the only core trait any of them have. There's never any doubt that they're wrong, etc.

Not to mention that Zodiark, the big bad they've been building up since the start of the game dies half-way through, and then we're forced to deal with an idiot-savant god-like being for the rest of the game was hilarious. The loppits also sucked. Bunny people on the moon.

Oh well, I'm sure given enough time they'll keep pretending to kill off the Scions only to deus ex machina them right back into existence one scene later. "Fantastic" story telling.

JeroKane

Ridrith said:

Endwalker was an expansion that totally lost me, and after that one, I gave up Final Fantasy entirely. To me, the story was bad and had been bad for some time. There's absolutely zero stakes. The core set of characters are so generically altruistic that it's the only core trait any of them have. There's never any doubt that they're wrong, etc.



Not to mention that Zodiark, the big bad they've been building up since the start of the game dies half-way through, and then we're forced to deal with an idiot-savant god-like being for the rest of the game was hilarious. The loppits also sucked. Bunny people on the moon.



Oh well, I'm sure given enough time they'll keep pretending to kill off the Scions only to deus ex machina them right back into existence one scene later. "Fantastic" story telling.

Suit yourself. Different folks, different strokes. I thought it was great with some nice surprise developments.
Not everything needs to be ultra serious and oscar worthy writing. I thought the Lopprits were a hilarious surprise, to lighten the mood of the story a bit.

ShinyFlygon

First of all, CHECK YOUR F-ING SPELLING, EVERYONE. It's "Loporrit."

With that off my chest, the Loporrits only mildly annoyed me. As far as the sheer, seething, burning-hot hatred I have felt toward a tribe, none will ever compare to the loathsome Pixies. This festering malignancy upon the First has spent years and years turning people into shrubs, but even though the Warrior of Darkness has the full support of their king, who will basically do anything you request, no one ever asks them to restore their victims to their rightful forms? Talk about your bad storytelling. It's the first thing any altruistic hero should have done upon encountering his first leafman.

Beyond that, they are just annoying, and their idiotic dreamland can suck it.

Back to Endwalker, though ...

To me, the only truly awful piece of content in EW is the role quests. They are so boring and pointless and poorly paced. I truly despised ever moment of every one of them. Far from the worst aspect (but still quite bad) is the fact that they aren't future-proof. If you don't do them as you level up during the main story, they don't make any sense. They are all about people still turning into monsters due to despair, even after the Endsinger has been vanquished. You are forced to treat the whole thing as the world's most boring flashback.

riningear

ShinyFlygon said:

First of all, CHECK YOUR F-ING SPELLING, EVERYONE. It's "Loporrit."

Ope, fixed.

ShinyFlygon said:

With that off my chest, the Loporrits only mildly annoyed me. As far as the sheer, seething, burning-hot hatred I have felt toward a tribe, none will ever compare to the loathsome Pixies. This festering malignancy upon the First has spent years and years turning people into shrubs, but even though the Warrior of Darkness has the full support of their king, who will basically do anything you request, no one ever asks them to restore their victims to their rightful forms? Talk about your bad storytelling. It's the first thing any altruistic hero should have done upon encountering his first leafman.



Beyond that, they are just annoying, and their idiotic dreamland can suck it.

I think that's more something to take up with their direct inspiration from the real-life Fae mythology, which are also just messed-up little jerks.

GrimDogGaming

Ridrith said:

Endwalker was an expansion that totally lost me, and after that one, I gave up Final Fantasy entirely. To me, the story was bad and had been bad for some time. There's absolutely zero stakes. The core set of characters are so generically altruistic that it's the only core trait any of them have. There's never any doubt that they're wrong, etc.

Not to mention that Zodiark, the big bad they've been building up since the start of the game dies half-way through, and then we're forced to deal with an idiot-savant god-like being for the rest of the game was hilarious. The loppits also sucked. Bunny people on the moon.

Oh well, I'm sure given enough time they'll keep pretending to kill off the Scions only to deus ex machina them right back into existence one scene later. "Fantastic" story telling.

It didn't run me off, but I agree with you completely on the story. They lost the plot after Heavensward, it's been a shitshow since. But, it's still the best shitshow on the market.

Tiller

ShinyFlygon said:

First of all, CHECK YOUR F-ING SPELLING, EVERYONE. It's "Loporrit."

With that off my chest, the Loporrits only mildly annoyed me. As far as the sheer, seething, burning-hot hatred I have felt toward a tribe, none will ever compare to the loathsome Pixies. This festering malignancy upon the First has spent years and years turning people into shrubs, but even though the Warrior of Darkness has the full support of their king, who will basically do anything you request, no one ever asks them to restore their victims to their rightful forms? Talk about your bad storytelling. It's the first thing any altruistic hero should have done upon encountering his first leafman.

Beyond that, they are just annoying, and their idiotic dreamland can suck it.

Back to Endwalker, though ...

To me, the only truly awful piece of content in EW is the role quests. They are so boring and pointless and poorly paced. I truly despised ever moment of every one of them. Far from the worst aspect (but still quite bad) is the fact that they aren't future-proof. If you don't do them as you level up during the main story, they don't make any sense. They are all about people still turning into monsters due to despair, even after the Endsinger has been vanquished. You are forced to treat the whole thing as the world's most boring flashback.

 Il Mheg, one of my favorite dungeons, The Dancing Plague. That zone was kinds long and drawn out, but I kinda liked it.

Ridrith

Endwalker was an expansion that totally lost me, and after that one, I
It didn't run me off, but I agree with you completely on the story. They lost the plot after Heavensward, it's been a shitshow since. But, it's still the best shitshow on the market.

The story was certainly the weakest point for me, personally, once it runs off the rails that hard, it stops being fun. There are a lot of problems I have with the gameplay as well, mostly in the sense that my main jobs were Dark Knight and Samurai, with a heavy preference towards DK. However, one of my best friends who played the game too would always play paladin or warrior, so unless I wanted to go in as Samurai every time, we could never play together.

Not having specs or really any customization for the classes whatsoever killed it for me as well. I like choices and I like to feel like the character is mine outside just what I wear. That's essentially impossible and when you can't queue with some of your friends without being forced onto a class that you might not want to play on that particular day, it loses the appeal quickly.

So between that issue, and frankly quite a few more, I've since went back to other MMOs. I also made the mistake of playing on the RP shard, so that didn't help. Terrible community in those shards, a lot of folk who are socially stunted and value their characters a little too much, in the sense that they've intertwined their own identities with them quite heavily. Don't even get me started on the "club" scene and the people who use it as a stand in for Second Life.

Neoyoshi

These little guys were some of my favorite folks in Endwalker.

Scot

riningear said:

I think that's more something to take up with their direct inspiration from the real-life Fae mythology, which are also just messed-up little jerks.

Err the actual fae legends are just "messed up little jerks" that's quite wrong, think of the poor pixies. But my best quote from the thread is: "it's been a shitshow since. But, it's still the best shitshow on the market."