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The First Descendant Review: An Exciting Shooter Held Back By its Localization and Monetization | MM

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The First Descendent is finally out now on PC, but was Nexon's shooter worth the wait? Our full review has the details.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,058
    edited July 11
    I'm gonna go with a 6/10, maybe even a 5. Comparable to Defiance, maybe even a little worse. No soul, no variety of content, shallow gunplay, bad story, and egregious monetization.

    Nowhere near as good as Warframe. Not even as good as Warframe at the start of its beta.

    Not as good as the Division.

    Not even as good as Destiny.

    Not even as good as Anthem.

    Maybe as good as the Suicide Squad if you squint a little.

    If I, as a shameless fan of this genre, tell you it is not good, it is not good.
    JeroKaneSarlasamooryesordgastovski1panwyrDekahnLark3m
  • GreatswordGreatsword Member RarePosts: 428
    Amazing game, having a blast 80 hours in.

    8.5/10 so far.
    ValdheimDekahn
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,835
    52% positive reviews on steam, so 6 seems accurate. I haven't played since it released, but in beta it seemed like it had a lot of potential. The monetization, unfortunately, is exactly why I despise the FPT model. The game was clearly designed around forcing you into the cash shop. If they would simply be honest and use a buy to play model then all the artificial grind and timers to not-so-gently shove you toward the cash shop to buy boosters would not exist.
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  • uriel_mafessuriel_mafess Member UncommonPosts: 258
    Monetization is bad. Not terrible, you can enjoy the F2P without expending any $, but still scammy.

    Game itself it's ok. A bit too much on the grind side (Asians love grinding for the shake of grinding), story is bland and generic, and has several things to polish. Mainly in performance.

    I would say at lauch its a 7.5/10 but can easily become a great game. Way better than Destiny, The division (who the hell said Anthem... omg paid 60$ and played less than 20 hours). But worse than Warframe.
    Dekahn
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,835



    Angrakhan said:

    52% positive reviews on steam, so 6 seems accurate. I haven't played since it released, but in beta it seemed like it had a lot of potential. The monetization, unfortunately, is exactly why I despise the FPT model. The game was clearly designed around forcing you into the cash shop. If they would simply be honest and use a buy to play model then all the artificial grind and timers to not-so-gently shove you toward the cash shop to buy boosters would not exist.


    The reviews are low because for the first days of launch the payments ppl did did not go through and they thought the were being robbed so they review bombed it
    I believe its one of the better looter shooters



    Here's the steam reviews filtered to only show negative sorted by most helpful. I don't see any mentions about people not getting items they paid for. All sound like legit complaints rather than just review bombing for the sake of hurting the studio.

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/negativereviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_
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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,582
    The game costs nothing to play. As such the monetization is fine. Voluntary purchases don't count as they need not be made. I've already earned two additional characters despite having spent nothing on the game.

    As for the play itself, it's fine. I blast things and they die while I traverse the environment like discount Spider-Man. It's decent enough for a mandatory cost of $0.
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  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,835
    Angrakhan said:



    Angrakhan said:

    52% positive reviews on steam, so 6 seems accurate. I haven't played since it released, but in beta it seemed like it had a lot of potential. The monetization, unfortunately, is exactly why I despise the FPT model. The game was clearly designed around forcing you into the cash shop. If they would simply be honest and use a buy to play model then all the artificial grind and timers to not-so-gently shove you toward the cash shop to buy boosters would not exist.


    The reviews are low because for the first days of launch the payments ppl did did not go through and they thought the were being robbed so they review bombed it
    I believe its one of the better looter shooters



    Here's the steam reviews filtered to only show negative sorted by most helpful. I don't see any mentions about people not getting items they paid for. All sound like legit complaints rather than just review bombing for the sake of hurting the studio.

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/negativereviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_
    You only read the first 2 reviews and you posted about it scroll down in your own link and see

    Um what? Ok so you think you can read my mind or something? I read probably 30 reviews. None of them were reviewed bombs talking about not getting stuff they paid for. They're not long. You're clearly just going to declare your right even though I provided a link that demonstrates otherwise so... Whatever. Got other things to do.
  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 842
    I'm having too much fun with the game for it to just be a 6/10. Feels more like a 7.
    ValdheimDekahn
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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,489
    edited July 12
    The Colossal fights (void intercepts) seem to be the main barrier of entry for a VERY large portion of players right now because of something so frick'n simple and almost primitive:

    'READING'

    I don't mean to sound mean, but it's aggravating when the game spells out so simply what the player needs to do for each void intercept battle, and often, almost every time, i see players not having the right module setups on their weapons and descendant for each fight.

    People i think have gone into this game believing there is this thing known as a 'descendant meta' which is sadly the fault of online game guides, and content creators and it's artificially created this situation with this game where players are going into content very ill-prepared.

    For things like Colossal battles, which is the main way we progress in this game, as in how we get higher level gear, modules make such a huge difference, it's night and day.

    And yes, there are descendants that are better at something then others, like for example:

    Enzo has a passive that makes opening vaults SO MUCH easier, so investing in a Enzo is something every player should strive for at some point.

    Bunny and Vulby have great mob grinding skills, so they make great item grinders.

    Ajax has extremely high defensive skills that make him pretty vital in harder group-play content.

    I could go on, but all the Descendants rely heavily on builds, and that's modules, the thing so many players seem to be letting fall to the waist side because there is a system in place that automatically recommends a suggestive set of modules with a click of a button, and while it might be quicker and easier to do, it is also absolutely the WRONG thing to do.

    I cannot stress enough how important modules are, and having the right modules for the right situation is the difference between progressing normally, to hitting a roadblock in this game.

    I know i'm repeating myself, but that roadblock for the majority of people are the colossal fights; each colossal fight needs a different module setup -irregardless of the descendant, if a fight says it is weak to a certain element, then pile on as much of that element from modules as possible onto all 3 weapons slotted; take off the needless moules that are used for fighting a lot of enemies, and pile on the HP, DEF, and whatever the resistance element it suggests, ... but mostly HP and Defense, as those two can go a much longer way in Colossal fights then something like shield.

    There are other things that can make things easier, but much requires farming currency like Kuiper, which is what you need to rank up modules, which is... the single thing that will change the difficulty of a Colossal fight, because just having the right modules is one part of what's needed, ranking them up is the 2nd part that's needed. And it's a lot of Kuiper, like ALOT alot.

    This is where content creators shine, because instead of watching videos that tell people what descendants to use, pay attention to the ones that talk about currency farming; they can give away a lot of information that most folk aren't talking about in places like online game guides.





    Sorry, i need to stop typing about this because i can keep going on and on, but i have a lot of hope for this game, because the devs seem to give a shit, and have a very promising roadmap laid out for the future already, like Clans, more game modes, quality of life improvements, more Descendants, etc.

    Also if there is something i could stress, just like Warframe, Destiny, The Division: the cashshop can be ignored, completely, everything is farmable, even the Ultimate Descendants; and Warframe does everything this game does with it's monetization; and there was a time people acted like Warframe was the second coming of jesus, i know because i've played that game since it's founders alpha test, and DE pushed that game hard in the press media back in it's Plains of Eidolon iteration.

    One thing i would like to see personally, is player trading and a marketable ecosystem, but i don't think the devs want to do that as they are likely trying to avoid what player trading ends up doing in games like this; 'creating a black/gray market' and 'scammers' - which plagues Warframe still to this day.

    I'd like to end with (and again, sorry) that i love Warframe, alot, but The First Descendant is the Warframe game i always wanted, and it's just beginning it's life cycle.

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  • VercinVercin Member UncommonPosts: 371
    I am enjoying the game. 7/10.
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  • GrimDogGamingGrimDogGaming Member UncommonPosts: 178
    edited July 12
    Meh, was in wrong game forum.
  • ValdheimValdheim Member RarePosts: 711
    Just started playing two days ago with almost zero expectations and I'm having a blast. No performance issues at all on a 3070, like the graphics a lot more than I expected when I first saw videos of it, sound is also really good and most important the gunplay and gameplay in general is fun to me. Got my second character (Bunny) on the first day but I'm enjoying Ajax way to much so far! I think for me it's at least a 7 if not even an 8 but it's to early for me to judge.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    edited July 12
    I am super enjoying it and its a 7.5/10 for me. Not sure what the complaint is with the localization as I think that is fine and I really like the story.

    I have not encountered any issue with translation or not being able to understand the story, that said you have to listen to the cut scenes AND the vocal chat in mission and between them when checking in albion periodically.

    Really looking forward to more story in future updates as clearly the story is not done and just starting.

    Btw Bunny's personal story/quest is quite good.

    It doesn't get a higher score from me cause there is some performance issues and the shop prices are frankly stupid...30$ for what is essentially a forma...just one...lol

    The game play itself is just great be it the gunplay or descendant skills.

    If it matters I have 126.1 hours of playtime in the game according to steam.
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  • hoenens1hoenens1 Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Was fun for 20 hours.. after that it gets boring, extremely repetitive.
  • BrotherMaynardBrotherMaynard Member RarePosts: 647
    Rubber banding in this game is beyond insane, I have never seen anything so awful. Larger groups of mobs in an open world mission will bring this game to its knees - not visually, but half the time you simply won't be able to hit anything, bump into random obstacles, get swarmed and murdered, etc.

    Clearly Nexon did pretty much bugger all as far as UE's poor networking design is concerned. Pathetic show by this company, as far as an online shooter goes.
    ValdemarJ
  • EddieHintzEddieHintz Newbie CommonPosts: 1

    Here's the steam reviews filtered to only show negative sorted by most helpful. I don't see any mentions about people not getting items they paid for. All sound like legit complaints rather than just review bombing for the sake of hurting the studio.



    https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/negativereviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_
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  • jenk3mjenk3m Member UncommonPosts: 27
    Fantastic game, Sucked me right in, a mix of warfame and destiny without any "message"
    Aeander
  • ThadellThadell Newbie CommonPosts: 2

    Angrakhan said:







    Angrakhan said:


    52% positive reviews on steam, so 6 seems accurate. I haven't played since it released, but in beta it seemed like it had a lot of potential. The monetization, unfortunately, is exactly why I despise the FPT model. The game was clearly designed around forcing you into the cash shop. If they would simply be honest and use a buy to play model then all the artificial grind and timers to not-so-gently shove you toward the cash shop to buy boosters would not exist.




    The reviews are low because for the first days of launch the payments ppl did did not go through and they thought the were being robbed so they review bombed it
    I believe its one of the better looter shooters






    Here's the steam reviews filtered to only show negative sorted by most helpful. I don't see any mentions about people not getting items they paid for. All sound like legit complaints rather than just review bombing for the sake of hurting the studio.



    https://steamcommunity.com/app/2074920/negativereviews/?browsefilter=toprated&snr=1_5_100010_
    uno online



    Have you ever thought, some of the reviews here are fake reviews?
  • harrystyles7117harrystyles7117 Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    jenk3m said:
    Fantastic game, Sucked me right in, a mix of warfame and destiny without any "message" 
    https://www.mmorpg.com/news/phantasy-star-online-2-new-genesis-unveils-super-genesis-festival-holiday-events-new-trials-and-much-more-2000133558papa's games
    I think it's a great game, although a bit difficult to play. 
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