To hell with community. I want to log on and have fun without having to worry about whether or not it will take 3 days to get my Wizard in a group in Lower Guk. If my archetype is gimped, and therefore not welcome in the Hollows at level 5. Whether or not I HAVE to have a Personal Shield Generator just to take on the mobs. If my inventory is going to be overloaded, and I'm broke, because it takes 20 million resouces to build a deed.
And by the way, I'm tired of having my archer class nerfed without saying may-I. What is it with developers and Rangers anyway?
And melons for that matter.
Hehe, I'm liking what I'm reading, and over time I keep hearing good things about this game, from those I know to be typically cynical.
I'm anxiously awaiting to hear the right thing that will kick me over the edge, and I'll find myself staring at the box on the store shelf.
Erm, or is it downloadable?
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
looking for teams not so bad as no classes to worry about and ppl are pretty happy to shuffle roles and try to fit in new members to a team.
solo, well bit of a debate on that one. my personal experience of 03:30 tuesday morning play is that its perfectly possible to solo upto med/high levels, question of picking the correct targets mostly. but hey we dont bite (hard) come team as well ;p ohh and solo digging and crafting certainly np at all.
Originally posted by rushin lol wepps funny post :)looking for teams not so bad as no classes to worry about and ppl are pretty happy to shuffle roles and try to fit in new members to a team.solo, well bit of a debate on that one. my personal experience of 03:30 tuesday morning play is that its perfectly possible to solo upto med/high levels, question of picking the correct targets mostly. but hey we dont bite (hard) come team as well ;p ohh and solo digging and crafting certainly np at all.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against grouping at all, or being involved in a community. More often than not I've found myself in guilds that offered me nothing, but expected so much they basically wanted me playing full time. Or, like in Galaxies, guilds of 6 people with a major city of empty buildings around them :P
I enjoy grouping, in just about any game. If group combat dynamics are done right, it's always a pleasure. The only thing I don't like is having to FIND a good group. Often, it's made of up a bunch of griefers who invited me, for one example, just to teleport me off a building and watch me die.
What's even worse is when I make my first character in the game, work hard to learn the ins and outs, then find out later that I 'gimped' myself and nobody wants me in the group. WTH is that? No game should allow players to actually screw up the character they build. That just shows poor balance.
There are a lot of things that bug me about these games, but being welcomed into a group while I'm still just considering purchasing the game?
THAT is sweet
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
just make sure u get off the starter island when u've got the hang of the basics as they are pretty quiet. gimping char not possible, bad choices can all b corrected with time
Originally posted by Wepps I'm curious about this too. To hell with community. I want to log on and have fun without having to worry about whether or not it will take 3 days to get my Wizard in a group in Lower Guk. If my archetype is gimped, and therefore not welcome in the Hollows at level 5. Whether or not I HAVE to have a Personal Shield Generator just to take on the mobs. If my inventory is going to be overloaded, and I'm broke, because it takes 20 million resouces to build a deed. And by the way, I'm tired of having my archer class nerfed without saying may-I. What is it with developers and Rangers anyway? And melons for that matter. Hehe, I'm liking what I'm reading, and over time I keep hearing good things about this game, from those I know to be typically cynical. I'm anxiously awaiting to hear the right thing that will kick me over the edge, and I'll find myself staring at the box on the store shelf. Erm, or is it downloadable?
I love Saga of Ryzom. Its a twist. Not true fantasy nor sci fi. Its just plain awesome. I love that you can alter and create your own skills.
Also the developers did this really moron thing. It was fixing the major bugs before getting the big additions in. heh.
Yah its very solo friendly. And the community is just down right nice. I would marry half of them.
I just wish I could play it from Cebu. But I cant so gotta wait til I get home. Connection is horrid from here. But I guess thats for the best since I am busy doing some stuff for a friend and dont need distractions.
Just be ready for some twisted animation and art. That is the only thing you gotta really get used too.
Okies - maybe I haven't read all the posts carefully enough but if the general idea you're getting from them is that ryzom is totally solo friendly they're a little off. Don't anyone get me wrong, I adore Ryzom but I'd rather you not get the wrong ideas about it.
Well, as mentioned, it is classless. Every avatar can do a bit of melee, crafting, harvesting and magic. Each tree goes up to level 250. While it's true you can solo melee and elemental magic (nuker) solo for a while - it becomes painfully slow in the 100's (you will be waiting for your stamina and sap (mana to non ryzom peeps) to regen a lot). It is nigh impossible in the 200's. On the other hand, you don't need a whole group to do anything - you just need a competent healer if you want to work on your melee or ele. You will always need to team up with someone to advance in healing - out of team heals give no xp. That said, everyone loves a good healer and you can team with people of much, much higher lvls than you so finding a group is easy.
On the other hand, crafting and harvesting is great for soloers. You can team to harvest but it greatly reduces the xp. Crafters and diggers tend to be very social though - chatting and trading away as they do their thing.
Since nearly everyone is classless and does a bit of everything, there's no way to "gimp" your character. If you purchase a wrong skill early on it might slow things a little down for a while but it will never affect the total development of your character. A player can switch between different skills to match a group's level. If the developers decide the nerf or boost something it will affect everyone so the playing field is always level.
Travel between some continents is very difficult and you will need a hight level group to do this. You only need to do this only once to get the spawns and it's always great fun as veterans take new players under their wing, lots of aggro and near team wipes. Usually guilds will organise this but there's always room for more!
Soo... you will not be able to avoid teaming but you won't be forced to look for one all the time either. We're all friendly, multi-skilled and multi-leveled homins. You'll never hear a "sorry, this group only needs a lvl x "insert class" with "insert special rare spell or ability or item" in ryzom.
I played Ryzom for probably 6 months beginning not long after release, and loved it immensly. The graphics are very beautiful, the whole ecology thing is beyond anything in any other game. Just the simple act of watching animals hunt each other is so cool hehe. I stopped playing due to other distractions (EQ2, WoW etc...) but see a LOT more potential and longevity in Ryzom than most other MMOs I've played. Is why I'll probably end up going back to it once R2 etc is all working.
It has been too long since playing for me to comment on the finer points of gameplay/grouping etc. But I just have to say, the uniqueness, the amazing community, the apparent caring of the game by the Devs (I know, wtf?!) all add up to one very fun experience.
For any starting out, I don't know if this has been 'fixed', but you never needed to take the Fight skill at creation as you got it automatically upon using a weapon. Only needed to take Magic/Craft/Harvesting or whatever the kits are called now. Maybe someone can clarify this?
And if Phaedria is still around, can someone please tell her Trueheart sends all his love? Thanks!
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush. Oh. My. God.
Server populations... well, it seems to be top secret! The numbers are all pretty much speculation, but from what I gather, apparently the populations of the german and english server are kinda the same, but the french server has a much higher population. Can you speak french ?
Okay, assuming english language server, who do I contact once I get into the game?
Kaiban, any ideas?
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Originally posted by pasque you don't need a whole group to do anything - you just need a competent healer if you want to work on your melee or ele. You will always need to team up with someone to advance in healing - out of team heals give no xp. That said, everyone loves a good healer and you can team with people of much, much higher lvls than you so finding a group is easy.
i quite agree this game is solo freindly in many ways. it is possible to lvl all things slol except for healing, defensive affliction and, to some extent, offensive affliction. however to lvl in the mid to high ranges it is sooooooo slow that you will probably need a team. fo most things you don't need a big healer and many times that i have been working a skill such as mele or elemental magic then i have used a healer about 1/2 my lvl which has sufficed. however, some of the best fun i have had is in massive teams that have taken on mobs far above the lvl of the team. this is alot easier to arrange than it sounds... since it is possible to be an 'all round' player and have many different skills you will generally be abke to find teams to fit into. for example somone with htheir main skill in the 200's will easily be able to find other skills at lower lvls in order to fit into any team in prety much any role.
you will also find those freindly soles that will heal you out of team while they dig nearby so unless you are really unlucky and canni't find a team (ie at 3.30 am) then there will always be ppl around to help and team you up.
in regards to guilds and what they ask of their members.. most guilds i know ask nothing of it's members. you will find that in the begining money and equiptment is hard to come by with no guild however as your lvls increase it becomes easier to get. generally speaking a guild will offer a kind of swap shop for equiptment untill you are a high enough to start givving back to the guild.
soloing can be a challange but to get the most out of the game teaming and joining a guild is well worth it
Originally posted by Mordith Originally posted by Wepps . . .
Are you the same Wepps that was the BH correspondent for SWG ages ago?
Yah that's him...
He's been bellyaching on the SWG forums for a while Someone posted an invite to try the free trial on the SWG forums so a bunch of us are trying it out.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Neither of the previous will win you any popularity contests on a media devoted to adolescent technogeeks.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Originally posted by Wepps People hayt me for 2 reasons:1 - I'm right.2 - I form complete sentences.Neither of the previous will win you any popularity contests on a media devoted to adolescent technogeeks.
Actually I think you have valid points but 'right' or 'wrong' I'll leave to others to decide . As to the complete sentances thing I can't immagine why anyone would hate someone for that Most of the time I see people lash out at those who do NOT form complete sentances
Personally I don't hate you. I just wish you'd quit taking yourself so seriously and thinking that your opinion is the only one that can possibly be correct. I agree with you on some things, on others I don't.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Truth is truth, Elnator, you can't have opinions about truth
Besides, I said it in a forum somewhere. It MUST be true!
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
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I'm curious about this too.
To hell with community. I want to log on and have fun without having to worry about whether or not it will take 3 days to get my Wizard in a group in Lower Guk. If my archetype is gimped, and therefore not welcome in the Hollows at level 5. Whether or not I HAVE to have a Personal Shield Generator just to take on the mobs. If my inventory is going to be overloaded, and I'm broke, because it takes 20 million resouces to build a deed.
And by the way, I'm tired of having my archer class nerfed without saying may-I. What is it with developers and Rangers anyway?
And melons for that matter.
Hehe, I'm liking what I'm reading, and over time I keep hearing good things about this game, from those I know to be typically cynical.
I'm anxiously awaiting to hear the right thing that will kick me over the edge, and I'll find myself staring at the box on the store shelf.
Erm, or is it downloadable?
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Ah, it's downloadable. Sweet.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
100% solo friendly, though you'll have to trade (buy/sell) to keep up with some good weaps,armor etc.
Made it to lvl 122/250 sword lvl 109/250 Pike mostly solo, even easier if you're more into crafting / foraging i'd say.
lol wepps funny post
looking for teams not so bad as no classes to worry about and ppl are pretty happy to shuffle roles and try to fit in new members to a team.
solo, well bit of a debate on that one. my personal experience of 03:30 tuesday morning play is that its perfectly possible to solo upto med/high levels, question of picking the correct targets mostly. but hey we dont bite (hard) come team as well ;p ohh and solo digging and crafting certainly np at all.
thanks for the info
have no problem teaming up occasionally for a specific purpose (like a large mining group in EVE)
just not much of a joiner - such as in a guild
will definitely give this game a try this weekend
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against grouping at all, or being involved in a community. More often than not I've found myself in guilds that offered me nothing, but expected so much they basically wanted me playing full time. Or, like in Galaxies, guilds of 6 people with a major city of empty buildings around them :P
I enjoy grouping, in just about any game. If group combat dynamics are done right, it's always a pleasure. The only thing I don't like is having to FIND a good group. Often, it's made of up a bunch of griefers who invited me, for one example, just to teleport me off a building and watch me die.
What's even worse is when I make my first character in the game, work hard to learn the ins and outs, then find out later that I 'gimped' myself and nobody wants me in the group. WTH is that? No game should allow players to actually screw up the character they build. That just shows poor balance.
There are a lot of things that bug me about these games, but being welcomed into a group while I'm still just considering purchasing the game?
THAT is sweet
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
just make sure u get off the starter island when u've got the hang of the basics as they are pretty quiet. gimping char not possible, bad choices can all b corrected with time
I love Saga of Ryzom. Its a twist. Not true fantasy nor sci fi. Its just plain awesome. I love that you can alter and create your own skills.
Also the developers did this really moron thing. It was fixing the major bugs before getting the big additions in. heh.
Yah its very solo friendly. And the community is just down right nice. I would marry half of them.
I just wish I could play it from Cebu. But I cant so gotta wait til I get home. Connection is horrid from here. But I guess thats for the best since I am busy doing some stuff for a friend and dont need distractions.
Just be ready for some twisted animation and art. That is the only thing you gotta really get used too.
Kai
Okies - maybe I haven't read all the posts carefully enough but if the general idea you're getting from them is that ryzom is totally solo friendly they're a little off. Don't anyone get me wrong, I adore Ryzom but I'd rather you not get the wrong ideas about it.
Well, as mentioned, it is classless. Every avatar can do a bit of melee, crafting, harvesting and magic. Each tree goes up to level 250. While it's true you can solo melee and elemental magic (nuker) solo for a while - it becomes painfully slow in the 100's (you will be waiting for your stamina and sap (mana to non ryzom peeps) to regen a lot). It is nigh impossible in the 200's. On the other hand, you don't need a whole group to do anything - you just need a competent healer if you want to work on your melee or ele. You will always need to team up with someone to advance in healing - out of team heals give no xp. That said, everyone loves a good healer and you can team with people of much, much higher lvls than you so finding a group is easy.
On the other hand, crafting and harvesting is great for soloers. You can team to harvest but it greatly reduces the xp. Crafters and diggers tend to be very social though - chatting and trading away as they do their thing.
Since nearly everyone is classless and does a bit of everything, there's no way to "gimp" your character. If you purchase a wrong skill early on it might slow things a little down for a while but it will never affect the total development of your character. A player can switch between different skills to match a group's level. If the developers decide the nerf or boost something it will affect everyone so the playing field is always level.
Travel between some continents is very difficult and you will need a hight level group to do this. You only need to do this only once to get the spawns and it's always great fun as veterans take new players under their wing, lots of aggro and near team wipes. Usually guilds will organise this but there's always room for more!
Soo... you will not be able to avoid teaming but you won't be forced to look for one all the time either. We're all friendly, multi-skilled and multi-leveled homins. You'll never hear a "sorry, this group only needs a lvl x "insert class" with "insert special rare spell or ability or item" in ryzom.
it's solo playable.
groups are always more fun tho...right?
What are the server populations like or is there just one server ?
Just the simple act of watching animals hunt each other is so cool hehe.
I stopped playing due to other distractions (EQ2, WoW etc...) but see a LOT more potential and longevity in Ryzom than most other MMOs I've played.
Is why I'll probably end up going back to it once R2 etc is all working.
It has been too long since playing for me to comment on the finer points of gameplay/grouping etc.
But I just have to say, the uniqueness, the amazing community, the apparent caring of the game by the Devs (I know, wtf?!) all add up to one very fun experience.
For any starting out, I don't know if this has been 'fixed', but you never needed to take the Fight skill at creation as you got it automatically upon using a weapon. Only needed to take Magic/Craft/Harvesting or whatever the kits are called now.
Maybe someone can clarify this?
And if Phaedria is still around, can someone please tell her Trueheart sends all his love? Thanks!
"(The) Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude." - George W Bush.
Oh. My. God.
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Playing: The Saga of Ryzom since march 2004
Server populations... well, it seems to be top secret! The numbers are all pretty much speculation, but from what I gather, apparently the populations of the german and english server are kinda the same, but the french server has a much higher population. Can you speak french ?
Okay, assuming english language server, who do I contact once I get into the game?
Kaiban, any ideas?
__________________________
"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
i quite agree this game is solo freindly in many ways. it is possible to lvl all things slol except for healing, defensive affliction and, to some extent, offensive affliction. however to lvl in the mid to high ranges it is sooooooo slow that you will probably need a team. fo most things you don't need a big healer and many times that i have been working a skill such as mele or elemental magic then i have used a healer about 1/2 my lvl which has sufficed. however, some of the best fun i have had is in massive teams that have taken on mobs far above the lvl of the team. this is alot easier to arrange than it sounds... since it is possible to be an 'all round' player and have many different skills you will generally be abke to find teams to fit into. for example somone with htheir main skill in the 200's will easily be able to find other skills at lower lvls in order to fit into any team in prety much any role.
you will also find those freindly soles that will heal you out of team while they dig nearby so unless you are really unlucky and canni't find a team (ie at 3.30 am) then there will always be ppl around to help and team you up.
in regards to guilds and what they ask of their members.. most guilds i know ask nothing of it's members. you will find that in the begining money and equiptment is hard to come by with no guild however as your lvls increase it becomes easier to get. generally speaking a guild will offer a kind of swap shop for equiptment untill you are a high enough to start givving back to the guild.
soloing can be a challange but to get the most out of the game teaming and joining a guild is well worth it
Sashtan
HO fluffy bunnies
Are you the same Wepps that was the BH correspondent for SWG ages ago?
Are you the same Wepps that was the BH correspondent for SWG ages ago?
Yah that's him...
He's been bellyaching on the SWG forums for a while Someone posted an invite to try the free trial on the SWG forums so a bunch of us are trying it out.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
People hayt me for 2 reasons:
1 - I'm right.
2 - I form complete sentences.
Neither of the previous will win you any popularity contests on a media devoted to adolescent technogeeks.
__________________________
"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Actually I think you have valid points but 'right' or 'wrong' I'll leave to others to decide . As to the complete sentances thing I can't immagine why anyone would hate someone for that Most of the time I see people lash out at those who do NOT form complete sentances
Personally I don't hate you. I just wish you'd quit taking yourself so seriously and thinking that your opinion is the only one that can possibly be correct. I agree with you on some things, on others I don't.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Truth is truth, Elnator, you can't have opinions about truth
Besides, I said it in a forum somewhere. It MUST be true!
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo