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Not sure how long this has been up, but here you go.....
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=In%20Concept
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Umm, I don't believe a word of it.
It is exactly what I've been promoting all along even back when I was correspondent. I doubt that they would implement this, and therefore I think this is somehow a fraud.
Either at some point somebody said, "you know what, Wepps was right all along, let's do it his way right down to the details", or it is the biggest coincidence in game design I've ever seen.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
YEEEESSS !
As proposed by generations of Smuggler correspondents (down to multi page design documents :-)
However, I believe it when I see it on live servers !
/Starts polishing the 2+ year old master smuggler badge (stuck with it through thick and thin)
Have fun
Erillion
I'm shocked!!!!
Sorry lol couldn't resist
. It's only in concept, but how kewl would it be?! I posted my agreement on the boards, hope they make it happen soon. Underworld rewards hmmmm wonder what new things they might dream up? A leather vest so you can look like Han solo? Tattoos and piercings? My long awaited grappling hook so I can finally be Boba Fett? Steroids so you can be burly and have erectile dsyfunction?
Really hope it happens because that would be one small step toward the game that Wepps envisions, which is the game that I would be very happy to play. I love the Star Wars Universe and I also love a challenge!
Get OVER yourself Wepps.
You are NOT the only person who's been proposing these types of changes. Almost every single Smuggler *yes SMUGGLER* Correspondent has proposed those types of changes for over a year now, even back in beta they were saying some of the same things.
Be glad they're finally agreeing with you.
And as for it being "some kind of hoax" read the damn URL... it's Sony's website.
Nice concepts... be interesting to hear if any of it actually makes it into the game within the next oh... 2 years.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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Still in: A couple Betas
Actually, I think the date they promised us was this November. I don't think they'd tell us which month the Smuggler update is being pushed to live, and not stick with it.
Get OVER yourself Wepps.
You are NOT the only person who's been proposing these types of changes. Almost every single Smuggler *yes SMUGGLER* Correspondent has proposed those types of changes for over a year now, even back in beta they were saying some of the same things.
Be glad they're finally agreeing with you.
And as for it being "some kind of hoax" read the damn URL... it's Sony's website.
Nice concepts... be interesting to hear if any of it actually makes it into the game within the next oh... 2 years.
Don't kid yourself. Your Smuggler correspondents were morons. All they did was defend their Last Ditch, nothing more. I guarantee it.
When I got into the game play discussions, it was me who made the Smuggling proposals. The Smuggler correspondent said they were stupid. Read the link again, read some of my other posts because I made them public in the Smuggling forum, and then you can get a grip on reality.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Sure - how could I have overlooked DA HOLY SCRIPT from Wepps in all my time on the smuggler forum since summer 2003.
Silly me, I always got the impression that about a dozen hard core posters have equally shaped the ideas for the smuggler revamp over the last 2 years.
Have fun
Erillion
I'm sure. It's only common sense really.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Get OVER yourself Wepps.
You are NOT the only person who's been proposing these types of changes. Almost every single Smuggler *yes SMUGGLER* Correspondent has proposed those types of changes for over a year now, even back in beta they were saying some of the same things.
Be glad they're finally agreeing with you.
And as for it being "some kind of hoax" read the damn URL... it's Sony's website.
Nice concepts... be interesting to hear if any of it actually makes it into the game within the next oh... 2 years.
Don't kid yourself. Your Smuggler correspondents were morons. All they did was defend their Last Ditch, nothing more. I guarantee it.
When I got into the game play discussions, it was me who made the Smuggling proposals. The Smuggler correspondent said they were stupid. Read the link again, read some of my other posts because I made them public in the Smuggling forum, and then you can get a grip on reality.
All I have to say is:
Go to the official forums
Pull up the posts for the past 2 years
Read through them.
Every single change can be found in dozens of posts by dozens of different people including numerous smuggler correspondants, including the current one.
Put your ego aside for a minute and realize that people other than yourself are capable of coming up with good ideas.
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You have to understand something Elnator. I don't care who takes credit, Koster can and I won't lose any sleep when you and I both know it would be BS.
The only thing I ever cared about was the damned game. They released it without space, then had to dump most of their devs into a space expansion. That was the first and biggest error, because it led to everything else, including months and months of nothing but stupid Jedi upgrades.
A lot of people feel it's too little too late, but I'm not one to give up on a potentially good thing. Your presense through thick and thin was meaningless, all it did was contribute to that lack of urgency on their part so count yourself as part of the problem.
People were talking but nobody was listening, because there were people there to talk. As long as SOE felt comfortable with that, the customers be damned.
Those dozens of people you are talking about were the late comers. They took what the rest of us in beta were saying and tried to get SOE's attention, saying "this is how the game should play", but I don't recall you ever being there. And if you were, you weren't in those discussions in any positive contributory fashion.
What you are is a perennial watcher. You watch everyone else come up with the ideas, and claim you aren't a n00b because you are knowledgable. But I'm STILL yet to see you contribute in any constructive fashion to any discussions.
You don't even steal the good ideas of others, you just go around making claims of those people because you are envious of them for having better insight into how a game should play.
I'm sure this carries over to your personal life too. A perennial watcher. Never doing anything to improve the world around you. A permanent part of the problem. It's sad, but that's the way the world works I guess.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
But hey - when our saviour Wepps says several hundred people on the smuggler forum did not come up with any original ideas since summer 2003, who are we lowly worms to contest his holy word ?
Have fun
Erillion
Guys, enough with the pissing contest or I'm going to lock this thread.
Seriously though, you guys all want the game to be better and they are trying to do just that, so take heart.
They aren't worthy of my blessings. They are Excommunicato.
First there are the Erillions. Your friends and confidants, who would be happy if they paid fifty bucks for a kick to the groin, and would defend that pain with their very lives. After all, they purchased it, it must be perfect.
But they are lost in their own lies. They will tell themselves that they are having fun if they were being dragged through the desert, and make sure everyone else knew it simply to justify their condition. "Thank you sir, may I have another?" is the rallying cry of the poor Erillionites. It is a sure sign of lack of wisdom.
They are the kind that would work their tails off, trying desperately to convince others that they should join them in the comfortable pot of boiling water. Herein lays the justification...
Then there are the minor prophets, the Elnators. These claim that everyone else is happy, and played for the reasons they did. And when they quit, everyone else was angry, and quit for the reasons they did.
But they don't know what they want. They only know what they don't want, and they have no vision so through envy they criticize the ideas of others. I knew their kind from the day I was born.
Those of us who overturn the tables of the moneychangers are their mortal enemies.
But they don't know why. They are like animals that cannot control their lusts, and reason is beyond their capabilities. The only thing that separates man from animal is that man creates through conscious action. These are animals, then, who desperately need our pity. And pity will be their greatest reward.
They spill their seed in the sand, and perhaps that is the best place for it.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
I'm sorry to butt in on the little War of the Words here, but what makes you think people aren't having fun Wepps? They may want things to be better, and they may want changes, but I really don't think people would still be playing if they weren't having fun.
If people did reach a point where they realised they weren't enjoying themselves anymore, they'd do what you do, and cancel their account and move on.
All I am saying is that Elnator, Erillion and yourself all have valid points regarding the game. Not one of you reigns supreme in intellect or morality over the others.
My advice is that we wait and see what's coming, see how SOE implements it and if we don't like it, contribute our thoughts to the forum thread that definitely WILL be assigned to such issues. Until then, we should probably take a breather from this Holier-Than-Thou attitude, stop telling everyone what we think people will enjoy, and just play the damn game (or not).
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I don't see why anyone pays any attention to Wepps anymore. Although I do not know for sure, I am sure that his extremely positive method of arguement led to some of the devs that read correspondent posts to really want to make his proposed changes. Yeah, I remember reading his posts way back when in SWG's forums, but I had the same feeling about them as I do now: Blah, Blah, Blah, I am the all-knowing gamer who knows how this game should be played and you will never understand because I am omnipotent. Give me a break. I wish forums had ignore.
Suupaabaka hit it on the head btw.
Wepps, go troll the board of a game you still play...
QFE.
Jod/Fadeus where ever you may be, I'm sorry.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
QFE.
Jod/Fadeus where ever you may be, I'm sorry.
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Ico,
No worrries mate
Wepps,
Actually this is exactly what Green Marine proposed too, when he was going to be the Dev in charge of the revamp. I'd be more inclined to believe they listened to him more so than you.
Whatever. It's a good idea.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo