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  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015



    Originally posted by Lord_Ara

     ...but even WoW didn’t have all its listed features



    I don't like it when people consistently bring this up. It's not the same. The only things WoW was missing at launch was Battlegrounds and Hero Classes (HC's still missing in action). While they may have been missing, the massive amount of content that WAS in the game more than made up for the small bit that wasn't.

    DnL's feature list is a bit more lopsided than that. It sounds like there will be quite a large chunk of content that won't find it's way in until later. It's not really a matter of "What features will this game be missing upon release?" but more of a "Will the features that ARE there make for an enjoyable game in the meantime?"

  • ghoul31ghoul31 Member Posts: 1,955

    oh no! I won't be able to get married at release!

    big deal. Ill still be able to kill monsters,  and people, and craft, and explore etc

    so I dont care if I cant marry!

     

  • jenanglessjenangless Member Posts: 49

    "but more of a "Will the features that ARE there make for an enjoyable game in the meantime?""

    exactly and i think the answer is going to be a big fat no.

    theres no way anyone would leave WoW for DnL. It just aint happening for example.

    "and craft"

    actually crafting was supposed to be in , in August and going by what the beta testers said - it isn't there even now. image

    DnL is even less finished than Ac2 was at launch. Watch and see.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    All the speculation will be over by Nov 12th.

    I miss DAoC

  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by jenangless

    "but more of a "Will the features that ARE there make for an enjoyable game in the meantime?""
    exactly and i think the answer is going to be a big fat no.
    theres no way anyone would leave WoW for DnL. It just aint happening for example.
    "and craft"
    actually crafting was supposed to be in , in August and going by what the beta testers said - it isn't there even now. image
    DnL is even less finished than Ac2 was at launch. Watch and see.



    Jaus that poxy beta test thread will  be the death of me. Crafting is complete and will be in november realase that im 100% sure of
  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by darquenblade



    Originally posted by Lord_Ara

     ...but even WoW didn’t have all its listed features


    I don't like it when people consistently bring this up. It's not the same. The only things WoW was missing at launch was Battlegrounds and Hero Classes (HC's still missing in action). While they may have been missing, the massive amount of content that WAS in the game more than made up for the small bit that wasn't.

    DnL's feature list is a bit more lopsided than that. It sounds like there will be quite a large chunk of content that won't find it's way in until later. It's not really a matter of "What features will this game be missing upon release?" but more of a "Will the features that ARE there make for an enjoyable game in the meantime?"


    To bw honest i would want poeple from wow (well most any ways) to play DnL wow comunity sucks and is childish and to me actully reuins wow as a game

     

    But lets face it Wow is a big name and piss easy to play its always gonna have players no matter what even if most are 12 year old spoiled brats


  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321



    Originally posted by LordAnubis
    Jaus that poxy beta test thread will  be the death of me. Crafting is complete and will be in november realase that im 100% sure of


    Are you saying that you are a beta tester or a paid emploee of NPCube Anubis? If so I have a few questions for you if not then how can you be so sure?

    I miss DAoC

  • Well his MMORPG account was registered in 2003.

    His name was in the beta leak posted by Miracle1.

    He called Miracle1 a coward image

    Id assume hes in beta

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    Well his MMORPG account was registered in 2003.
    His name was in the beta leak posted by Miracle1.
    He called Miracle1 a coward image
    Id assume hes in beta
     



    I was asking him not you birdseeds but since you want to get into this conversation I have a couple of questions for you also. Since I will ass-u-me that you saw the copy of the thread from the beta forum and assuming you read it how can you still be so positive about this game? I mean less than a month ago according to that thread the game is still missing large chunks of the most basic gameplay, let alone all the "fluff" features. I mean I see Mourning written all over this game right now and wee all know what happened there. Saying it will do as well as Horizons is being extremely optimistic in my opinion.

    I miss DAoC

  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by Jackdog



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    Well his MMORPG account was registered in 2003.
    His name was in the beta leak posted by Miracle1.
    He called Miracle1 a coward image
    Id assume hes in beta
     


    I was asking him not you birdseeds but since you want to get into this conversation I have a couple of questions for you also. Since I will ass-u-me that you saw the copy of the thread from the beta forum and assuming you read it how can you still be so positive about this game? I mean less than a month ago according to that thread the game is still missing large chunks of the most basic gameplay, let alone all the "fluff" features. I mean I see Mourning written all over this game right now and wee all know what happened there. Saying it will do as well as Horizons is being extremely optimistic in my opinion.


    Let me answer for you as you seemt o be too up your own ass to leason those quotes were taken out of context and posted here by a coward who decided to name names but not his own. Most of them reflect nothing on the beta now. I suggest you reread it if you can then realase that most dont even mention content and complain about somthing else going on
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321



    Originally posted by LordAnubis



    Originally posted by Jackdog



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    Well his MMORPG account was registered in 2003.
    His name was in the beta leak posted by Miracle1.
    He called Miracle1 a coward image
    Id assume hes in beta
     


    I was asking him not you birdseeds but since you want to get into this conversation I have a couple of questions for you also. Since I will ass-u-me that you saw the copy of the thread from the beta forum and assuming you read it how can you still be so positive about this game? I mean less than a month ago according to that thread the game is still missing large chunks of the most basic gameplay, let alone all the "fluff" features. I mean I see Mourning written all over this game right now and wee all know what happened there. Saying it will do as well as Horizons is being extremely optimistic in my opinion.


    Let me answer for you as you seemt o be too up your own ass to leason those quotes were taken out of context and posted here by a coward who decided to name names but not his own. Most of them reflect nothing on the beta now. I suggest you reread it if you can then realase that most dont even mention content and complain about somthing else going on


    Where is the answer then Annubis, all I see are childish insults. Call me bad name, it still will not help the game on November the 6th.

    The only way this game will have a ice cubes chance in hell is if the Devs come to some sense and do the November release as a free open beta until they get at least the basic gameplay and devices in place. Considering they will not even consent to allow any of the game sites to do a "preview" of the game I doubt that will happen.

    You know that as well as I do that this game is nowhere near ready for releasing for a fee of any sort and saying anything else is helping them with whatever you want to call selling a pack of promises which they cannot deliver on. As one of the mods here put it I will be darned to drive their getaway car for NPCube by swearing to their deceptions although it is obvious you don't have a problem with that.

    I miss DAoC

  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by Jackdog



    Originally posted by LordAnubis



    Originally posted by Jackdog



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    Well his MMORPG account was registered in 2003.
    His name was in the beta leak posted by Miracle1.
    He called Miracle1 a coward image
    Id assume hes in beta
     


    I was asking him not you birdseeds but since you want to get into this conversation I have a couple of questions for you also. Since I will ass-u-me that you saw the copy of the thread from the beta forum and assuming you read it how can you still be so positive about this game? I mean less than a month ago according to that thread the game is still missing large chunks of the most basic gameplay, let alone all the "fluff" features. I mean I see Mourning written all over this game right now and wee all know what happened there. Saying it will do as well as Horizons is being extremely optimistic in my opinion.


    Let me answer for you as you seemt o be too up your own ass to leason those quotes were taken out of context and posted here by a coward who decided to name names but not his own. Most of them reflect nothing on the beta now. I suggest you reread it if you can then realase that most dont even mention content and complain about somthing else going on


    Where is the answer then Annubis, all I see are childish insults. Call me bad name, it still will not help the game on November the 6th.

    The only way this game will have a ice cubes chance in hell is if the Devs come to some sense and do the November release as a free open beta until they get at least the basic gameplay and devices in place. Considering they will not even consent to allow any of the game sites to do a "preview" of the game I doubt that will happen.

    You know that as well as I do that this game is nowhere near ready for releasing for a fee of any sort and saying anything else is helping them with whatever you want to call selling a pack of promises which they cannot deliver on. As one of the mods here put it I will be darned to drive their getaway car for NPCube by swearing to their deceptions although it is obvious you don't have a problem with that.

     

     



    You honestly have no idea
  • jenanglessjenangless Member Posts: 49

    R.I.P DnL

    image

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    What is it I have no idea about Annubis? Care to elaborate a bit on that one?

    I am not a beta tester and have not signed any NDA for NPCube, nor do I work for any other game comapny or any fan site for any MMORPG.  However I have seen the game in the state it was a couple of weeks ago and I know for a fact that comparing it to Horizons or Saga of Ryzom at release is a huge compliment, Shadowbane and Mourning are probably much better examples. You are right though I do not have any idea what state the game is in today. They may have made more progress in the last three weeks than they did in the last year, somehow I doubt it though. If they have then either NPCube or some one needs to shut up trolls like me and release some solid recent info, screenshots, geta game site to do a preview or something. Because right now this game will not sell 1500 copies on the first day and unless major changes have been made before Nov 5th it won't sell any after that..

    As far as I am concerned just shutting up and letting people get scammed out of their money would be like seeing someone selling "Rolexes" for 25 dollars. On one hand you say to yourself , screw anyone dumb enough to give the guy money. On the other hand you just know it isn't right and not a hell of a lot different than watching some guy mug a old lady and you not even bothering to call the police. half a dozen times now I have just wanted to walk away from this forum now, but it just pees me right of when I see someone posting that incomplete features meaning that "marriage"won't be in at release. lets think more along the lines of login servers working, lag on a machine that can get 50FPS on EQII set on the next to highest settings, server stability, user interface that looks like it was done in MSPaint.......

    I miss DAoC

  • Yes i know you directed your questions at Anubis. I simply figured id do him the liberty of answering for him, you know, so he didn't have to break his NDA contract.image

      For your other question, how am i still hyped up after reading the beta leak? Well its simple, ive played many games that promised less than what DnL currently does and they didn't deliver much. I've played games driven by greedy corporations which normally seem to lack gamewise compared to smaller creative work environments. If you recall, EQ 1 is basically the foundation of what MMORPGs are today(compare to EQ2). Much like NPCube, the original  EQ dev team assembled had allot of innovative ideas. These days the MMORPG market is flooded with cookie cutter pattern MMORPGs. I continuously see rip offs of EQ that introduce very few original features(if any). What DnL is proposing along with the attitude of the devs (from what ive read) they seem to be on the right path.

      I will make my own decision but as of now, I remain fairly positive towards DnL. Im awaiting a few offical announcements to be made before they launch the game to confirm my download in Nov. Yes im grateful for beta testers insight into games/reviews on web sites etc etc but its not going to determine if i like a game or not. Some people consider WoW, Eq2 "Next Generation Games".. i see them as a step backwards... watered down trash.. but thats a whole another ramble...

  • claithclaith Member Posts: 86
    better watch what ya say..If they don't like an opinion of a game thats coming out,your gonna be accused of breaking NDA,or whatever rule they can come up with.These forums are'nt for much "discussion" anymore,might wanna keep opinions to ourselves...or..get flamed,..banned..scapegoated,..etc.
  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by Jackdog

     lets think more along the lines of login servers working, lag on a machine that can get 50FPS on EQII set on the next to highest settings, server stability, user interface that looks like it was done in MSPaint.......




    This just proves you have no idea. Im not saying the games better than slice bread. Im not saying your wrong in your general idea.

    Im just saying your lieing out of your ass to try to prove a point your wrong in most of your post syour wrong in that quote above your just plan wrong in most of the stuff your saying.

     

    And just for the record drop the concern for fellow man crap. If you dont like it dont buy it. it others are not sure about it they shouldnt buy it go off reviews first.

     

    Not the half fabricated statments made on thease fourms

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321



    Originally posted by LordAnubis



    Originally posted by Jackdog

     lets think more along the lines of login servers working, lag on a machine that can get 50FPS on EQII set on the next to highest settings, server stability, user interface that looks like it was done in MSPaint.......



    This just proves you have no idea. Im not saying the games better than slice bread. Im not saying your wrong in your general idea.

    Im just saying your lieing out of your ass to try to prove a point your wrong in most of your post syour wrong in that quote above your just plan wrong in most of the stuff your saying.

     

    And just for the record drop the concern for fellow man crap. If you dont like it dont buy it. it others are not sure about it they shouldnt buy it go off reviews first.

     

    Not the half fabricated statments made on thease fourms


    What reviews? Show me any preview that consists of anything more than a few statement s that only say DnL is planning ______ . Show me any evidence that any of the game sites have even seen the full game up and running. In case you have not noticed NPCube won't let any independent sites review it. As a matter of fact all they would show at E3 this year was some lame ass dragon flight and even that was bugged. No combat was shown, no crafting, no magic nothing. E3 was only 4 months ago and they did show even the most basic game play at the biggest damn game show in the world. Anyone with a lick of common  sense has to wonder why.

    Now back to my so called witnessing of the game. Maybe I am just a lying sack of manure all I can say is prove me wrong bubba, see if your buddies over at NPCube will let MMORPG or Gamespot play the game and do a preview article or just drop the NDA and open up the beta forums to the public with read only access like WoW had. Then we will find out who is full of it me or you. It would be real easy to prove if I am lying and at the same time get a lot of positive publicity. On the other hand if the game is half as bad as I say it is they should keep the NDA down as tight as possible until Nov 5th so at least a few people will still buy it.

    By the way it is not love for my fellow man that motivates me it is the fact my own conscious would bother me, so when it is all said and done it is still all about me my friend. I am sure you can understand that.


     

    I miss DAoC

  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by Jackdog



    Originally posted by LordAnubis



    Originally posted by Jackdog

     lets think more along the lines of login servers working, lag on a machine that can get 50FPS on EQII set on the next to highest settings, server stability, user interface that looks like it was done in MSPaint.......



    This just proves you have no idea. Im not saying the games better than slice bread. Im not saying your wrong in your general idea.

    Im just saying your lieing out of your ass to try to prove a point your wrong in most of your post syour wrong in that quote above your just plan wrong in most of the stuff your saying.

     

    And just for the record drop the concern for fellow man crap. If you dont like it dont buy it. it others are not sure about it they shouldnt buy it go off reviews first.

     

    Not the half fabricated statments made on thease fourms


    What reviews? Show me any preview that consists of anything more than a few statement s that only say DnL is planning ______ . Show me any evidence that any of the game sites have even seen the full game up and running. In case you have not noticed NPCube won't let any independent sites review it. As a matter of fact all they would show at E3 this year was some lame ass dragon flight and even that was bugged. No combat was shown, no crafting, no magic nothing. E3 was only 4 months ago and they did show even the most basic game play at the biggest damn game show in the world. Anyone with a lick of common  sense has to wonder why.

    Now back to my so called witnessing of the game. Maybe I am just a lying sack of manure all I can say is prove me wrong bubba, see if your buddies over at NPCube will let MMORPG or Gamespot play the game and do a preview article or just drop the NDA and open up the beta forums to the public with read only access like WoW had. Then we will find out who is full of it me or you. It would be real easy to prove if I am lying and at the same time get a lot of positive publicity. On the other hand if the game is half as bad as I say it is they should keep the NDA down as tight as possible until Nov 5th so at least a few people will still buy it.

    By the way it is not love for my fellow man that motivates me it is the fact my own conscious would bother me, so when it is all said and done it is still all about me my friend. I am sure you can understand that.


     


    I agree i wish Np3 would post stuff to stop crap like this but they wont dont know why and for that fact dont care, but your asking question that are covered by a NDA so you wont get answers all i can say is stop posting about stuff you dont know about im fed up with this 20% of the total game bull shit and the paid for beta crap because you dont know mate.

    You already said about the game proformance and your way off there as for bugs hey covered by the NDA. Trust me just wait you will get your answers.

  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112
    poxy double post
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    Checks to see if he cares if Annubia is fed up...nope no concern here mate.  You know maybe NPCube could start small, maybe just post a screen shot of the user interface...or maybe a video showing combat perhaps.

    At PAX and E3 this year there were games that have not even started their beta testing yet and they were showing off demo builds of their games and I can think of one instance where they actually were letting the public play the demo versions.

    Another game whose name I won't mention here showed a version of their combat at E3 and were flamed to high heaven over on their boards so at PAX they had toned down on the flying ninja kicks etc. That is the difference between professionals and a bunch of amateurs though I guess. Seems as if NPCube is still too ashamed of what they have made to let anyone even get a good look at it yet and it is only a bit more than a month to release.

    Why won't NPCube show their game to the game sites, magazines etc?  The answer is simple, they know once the truth is out no one is going to buy their POS.

    I miss DAoC

  • Jackdog is over qualified to label DnL a POS for many reasons!

    1. He has NEVER witnessed ingame footage, this automatically gives him knowledge beyond our wildest dreams. Hasnt even seen the UI, yes children you should definitely all base your opinions of DnL according to this valuable source of information named Jackdog!

    2. Hes judging a game thats in its beta stages. The few screen shots he has seen are from beta. You go girlfriend!!!!

    3. Well like i stated above, his name is Jackdog... No No, its not Jacketfrog, Smackhogs, Crackedlogs but its Jackdog. Anyone with the name Jackdog can not ever be wrong, no god forbid that.

    Btw, Ill see ya in game Jackliene. I know you'll love it, seeing as how you can't resist coming back to the forums so much.

  • strousestrouse Member Posts: 114
    Hey birdseeds - there is a thing called "commen sense". You don't seem to have much of it and neither does any one else who thinks DnL is anything more than overhyped nonsense.
  • LordAnubisLordAnubis Member Posts: 112



    Originally posted by strouse
    Hey birdseeds - there is a thing called "commen sense". You don't seem to have much of it and neither does any one else who thinks DnL is anything more than overhyped nonsense.


    And you honestly have no clue do you
  •   Hey Strouse, read two of my post and apply your "common sense" to wether i care about your opinion or not. Its rather obvious that i have judged this game by whatever info i have came across and determined that it has the possibility of entertaining me.

      "Common Sense" would also suggest you live a pathetic life. Why you would bother visiting a games message board on a daily basis attempting to convince people that the game is awful is beyond me.

      Unless of course you want a sticker or some *!*!. If thats the case Ill print one up and send it to you. Hows the title "All American Hero" sound? If thats not the case your probably a WoW dev or live a pathetic life like i stated above.

      I doubt MMORPGs intention for these forums are to allow idiots like you to attempt to harm an unreleased games reputation. I think the majority of players visit these forums to discuss games they love, not to put up with childish antics like yours...

      So Im asking you kindly, to please find a game you like and leave DnL alone, we don't need Superman to save us $50 bucks, if we like the game or hate it will be up to us to determine.

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