Originally posted by Rikimaru_X I would like to clap for this great topic . . . that I have came in late . . once again. (now my post will not have much wisdom but more funny) Now, I beleive that the japanese have a different face structure from others. Now here is my first question: HOW OLD DO YOU THINK THIS GIRL IS?It's 11 on the link...but...meh Now I do have to agree that the Japanese are weird, but that is there culture...I kind of like some of their culture... .......
Man seriously, Japanese people are way disturbing ...
Again any credibility you could've had is lost. Calling someone names then saying they aren't mature enough to speak with you?
Again, you have issues.
The fact that you think I honestly care about what someone who has yet to read or comprehend what I said that the OP easily figured out think's of my credability, is highly amusing.
If you think for a moment I was bashing American's then you have a comprehension issue. Kindly get off the cross someone else needs the wood thanks.
He is angry because I called him a troll for trolling my post that the OP even figured out what I was saying. The OP unlike some other people realized that having ignorance pointed out is not necessarly an insult.
Sure they may be Pedophile's but hey, they make good video games, so it balances out.
Since we're on the topic....
Does anyone have the picture with the old asian man wearing a dress and is hugging onto a lifesize anime doll? It was hillarious! And i can't find it anywhere.
Originally posted by Zhanghia Some countries.. (can't believe I'm bringing this up) they argue or even outright allow fathers to 'break in' their daughters. I think it's gross and humanity is turning to utter crap.
Err.. which countries would these be exactly?
there are none, it is an outward lie or misunderstanding on the part of the guy who said it
India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it.
Originally posted by Dekoth Originally posted by Cydone Before im flamed out of this forum. Let me note that its not the entire anime franchise im bashing, im just noting a tendancy im seeing. Most Anime cartoons, and most Anime MMO's I have seen, have had this perverted pedophile theme. Most female characters I have seen, have had the face of a 10-13 year old girl, along with the body of a 19-25 year old. Now wtf is that? What is it about these earstern cultures, that celebrates this perverted pornographic fetish? Why is it such a big thing there, and why is this not a legal issue? Surely in most of europe, this kind of style would be condemn, considered ill-intended, and criminal. Here its like, in a very graphic way, they are trying to hide and surpress their obviously hardcore pedophile instincts... I just find it rather weird. Ever been to the Orient? No? Did not think so. If you had you would realize a simple thing, Take a look at the young adult population of countries like Japan and China. Something you will notice is ALOT of the girls in the 18 ~ 24 range while their bodies suggest otherwise, their faces look very very young. For the record just because you have seen a few asian families over here in the US does not account for crap, you have to actually be in one of those countries to understand. So as a result, their cartoon's are simply a reflection of society. Just the same as our cartoon's are a reflection of ours. One of the best example's of this would be Scooby Doo, Does that cartoon reflect our society as a whole? hardly but its amazing how the characters reflected quite accurately the general look of a particular generation. You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence? Point is? Do not make post's based in ignorance. The only thing you accomplished here is making yourself look like a stereotypical american with no real concept of the real world outside the garbage MTV crams down its throat.
I agree with Dekoth, He is the MAN. Obvoiusly Americans think SEX is a TABOO. Over in Japan, they do like young girls. That is when they are in their prime (japanese thinking)
There was a thread once that was about a black teacher in japan and his experiences. If it is true which I believe it was (benefit of the doubt) then the japanese love young women and ginormus breasts.
Originally posted by Dekoth Ever been to the Orient? No? Did not think so. If you had you would realize a simple thing, Take a look at the young adult population of countries like Japan and China. Something you will notice is ALOT of the girls in the 18 ~ 24 range while their bodies suggest otherwise, their faces look very very young. For the record just because you have seen a few asian families over here in the US does not account for crap, you have to actually be in one of those countries to understand. So as a result, their cartoon's are simply a reflection of society. Just the same as our cartoon's are a reflection of ours. One of the best example's of this would be Scooby Doo, Does that cartoon reflect our society as a whole? hardly but its amazing how the characters reflected quite accurately the general look of a particular generation. You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence? Point is? Do not make post's based in ignorance. The only thing you accomplished here is making yourself look like a stereotypical american with no real concept of the real world outside the garbage MTV crams down its throat.
I agreed pretty much with you till the part about america being afraid to teach about sex. OMG, that's seriously laughable, the diversity of how people in america teach their children about sex isn't a simple steorotypical assumption. In some cases, children are scared to be taught by their parents, I honestly wouldn't want to hear it from my parents. Think about that for awhile, I learned about sex from my mom, she told me I came out of her belly but, after that I learned the mechanics at school from a teacher that is suspiciously feministic. All I got to say.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Originally posted by Cydone Good to see some good discussions spawned from alittle shallow first post.Distress, please refrain from saying people have issues. Join the discussion, or at least elaborate on why you feel someone has issues.
You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence?
I will not refrain from saying someone has issues when they clearly do. Correlation of Christian based moral law and sexual deviance is not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination.
Saying that moral laws lead to violent crimes is borderline retarded. This was nothing more than an ignorant liberal bash at American soceity.
By the way since you don't know what prude means:
prude
n : a person excessively concerned about propriety and decorum
It has nothing to do with sexual deviance, it is the annoying liberal takeover of the word that associates caring about your household and acting in a respectful manner to being afraid of a consensual sexual act. Just because the majority of Americans do not wish to allow their children to view live sexuality on their daytime programming does not mean that they will all become pregnant out of wedlock and go rape people.
I agree with Dekoth, He is the MAN. Obvoiusly Americans think SEX is a TABOO. Over in Japan, they do like young girls. That is when they are in their prime (japanese thinking) There was a thread once that was about a black teacher in japan and his experiences. If it is true which I believe it was (benefit of the doubt) then the japanese love young women and ginormus breasts.
Originally posted by darwa Originally posted by disstressOriginally posted by Tithrielle Originally posted by ZhanghiaSome countries.. (can't believe I'm bringing this up) they argue or even outright allow fathers to 'break in' their daughters. I think it's gross and humanity is turning to utter crap.Err.. which countries would these be exactly?there are none, it is an outward lie or misunderstanding on the part of the guy who said it India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it. Trust me - ignorance truly is bliss.
Incest is illegal in Egypt and India. Even though it happens there, it is not supported as a social norm. According to law, incest falls under the provision of unnatural offences under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Incest was a norm with some ancient cultures, there is not one country where this is legal today.
Although incest happens more often in certain cultures and soceities, does not make it an acceptable practice by any means. Please provide your information that "India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it."
If this were true, then I would've written my anthropology thesis on it.
Originally posted by ZhanghiaSome countries.. (can't believe I'm bringing this up) they argue or even outright allow fathers to 'break in' their daughters. I think it's gross and humanity is turning to utter crap.
Err.. which countries would these be exactly?
there are none, it is an outward lie or misunderstanding on the part of the guy who said it
India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it. Trust me - ignorance truly is bliss.
Incest is illegal in Egypt and India. Even though it happens there, it is not supported as a social norm. According to law, incest falls under the provision of unnatural offences under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Incest was a norm with some ancient cultures, there is not one country where this is legal today.
Although incest happens more often in certain cultures and soceities, does not make it an acceptable practice by any means. Please provide your information that "India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it."
If this were true, then I would've written my anthropology thesis on it.
It's not even about incest, it's just about breaking them in before any other man breaks the hymen. I don't know -why- they would do it, but they do.
Oh, and the South of North America.. you still think just because it's illegal people won't do it? You really are daft if you think that people won't find a way around the laws.
Just on a skim you'll find one of these but probably even more if you looked hard enough,"It is widely, but by no means universally, agreed that incest by parents is abuse and should be illegal. Some societies considered incest an inescapable fact of life. In many societies some forms of sexual contact between close family members is socially (and sometimes even publicly) encouraged. For example, in Bali it was encouraged for mothers to sexually stimulate infants."
Among others, but it may not be widely accepted but some will even if it is against the law, they'd do it in secret because they feel they have the right to.
I will not refrain from saying someone has issues when they clearly do. Correlation of Christian based moral law and sexual deviance is not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination. It was entertaining at first but seriously come up with an original thought, you are starting to bore me. Its a stretch? really? care to provide some numbers to back that up? Saying that moral laws lead to violent crimes is borderline retarded. This was nothing more than an ignorant liberal bash at American soceity. I am not liberal, never have been. Furthermore I never said that moral law's lead to violent crime. Again nice job comprehending what I said. I fairly clearly stated that America is one of the most prudish nation's in the world, yet have some of the highest Crime rates AND Teen pregnancy problem's in the world. Now since I know for a fact I can pull numbers of statistic's and facts to back that up, Kindly since you are so determined to prove me wrong provide numbers to the contrary. Or if you cannot kindly quit talking out of your ass. By the way since you don't know what prude means:
prude
n : a person excessively concerned about propriety and decorum
I am well aware of the definition of Prude and I did in fact use it properly. Since you think otherwise familiarize yourself with the definition of the other words in that definition.
It has nothing to do with sexual deviance, it is the annoying liberal takeover of the word that associates caring about your household and acting in a respectful manner to being afraid of a consensual sexual act. Just because the majority of Americans do not wish to allow their children to view live sexuality on their daytime programming does not mean that they will all become pregnant out of wedlock and go rape people.
Who said anything about viewing sexuality on daytime programming? I certaintly did not I do not want to see that on TV any more then the next person. But the fact is Sexuality in this country is Taboo, regardless of if you want to admit it or not. Teen's are flatly not being taught what they need to be taught about it. If they were we would not be battling a teen pregnancy rate that is of nearly epidemic proportion's. As far as does it affect them all? hardly that was an absurd assumption on your part and quite honestly taking what I said so far out of context it was almost not even worth responding to.
Hate to break it to you but fact is Parent's these day's are not acting like parents. They are acting like babysitter's and wanting someone else to do their job for them. Everyone wants to be their childs "Friend" when they need to grow up, and be the parent. Want to know what parenting today is like in american society? Talk to school teachers, or those who deal with kids on a daily basis. They will tell you just how it really is. Oh sure the preacher in the pulpit likes to paint a pretty picture, and a large majority of the christian community like's to pretend we are still living in the 50's. But the reality is much different and most of them are living hypocritical lives.
As for my moral standards, I am against abortion, I am against pre marital sex, i have lived my life in line with bible ethics. However I have my eye's open enough to realize that this world is far from perfect and children must be taught the gritty reality of it so they can deal with daily life once they get outside in the real world. My parents sheltered me, I assure you the Real world was a damn hard slap in the face from what I knew. I was pissed at them for years over not teaching me what to really expect. Now things have deterioriated far beyond what it was when I was that age, and I know for a fact my child will understand quite clearly what the reality of the world is. If you want to keep living with your head buried beneath the sand be my guest, but dont act like I am the one with issues when I am clearly not the one in denial of what this world is.
That said, Just because we were raised generally with christian moral's, in no way shape or form makes them right. As I have said before and as I will continue to say, Culture determine's a Great deal of one's perception. Frankly alot of other culture's are far older then our own, does not make them right but does not make them wrong either. As far as religion is concerned, again get out open your eye's and do some actual research. Christianity is a scant 2,000 years old. There are many religion's that are double that age and a couple others even older then that. So which one is right? Fact is you cannot answer that because there is no correct answer. To assume you are right and everyone else is wrong just wreaks of Arrogance. So the answer is not which is right, but Which is right for me.
So if you feel like continuing this innane argument, feel free but do not bother until you can come with some facts to back you up. Otherwise keep your head in the sand and remain happily oblivious to reality.
Originally posted by Dekoth Originally posted by disstress I will not refrain from saying someone has issues when they clearly do. Correlation of Christian based moral law and sexual deviance is not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination. It was entertaining at first but seriously come up with an original thought, you are starting to bore me. Its a stretch? really? care to provide some numbers to back that up? Saying that moral laws lead to violent crimes is borderline retarded. This was nothing more than an ignorant liberal bash at American soceity. I am not liberal, never have been. Furthermore I never said that moral law's lead to violent crime. Again nice job comprehending what I said. I fairly clearly stated that America is one of the most prudish nation's in the world, yet have some of the highest Crime rates AND Teen pregnancy problem's in the world. Now since I know for a fact I can pull numbers of statistic's and facts to back that up, Kindly since you are so determined to prove me wrong provide numbers to the contrary. Or if you cannot kindly quit talking out of your ass. By the way since you don't know what prude means:pruden : a person excessively concerned about propriety and decorumI am well aware of the definition of Prude and I did in fact use it properly. Since you think otherwise familiarize yourself with the definition of the other words in that definition.
It has nothing to do with sexual deviance, it is the annoying liberal takeover of the word that associates caring about your household and acting in a respectful manner to being afraid of a consensual sexual act.Just because the majority of Americans do not wish to allow their children to view live sexuality on their daytime programming does not mean that they will all become pregnant out of wedlock and go rape people. Who said anything about viewing sexuality on daytime programming? I certaintly did not I do not want to see that on TV any more then the next person. But the fact is Sexuality in this country is Taboo, regardless of if you want to admit it or not. Teen's are flatly not being taught what they need to be taught about it. If they were we would not be battling a teen pregnancy rate that is of nearly epidemic proportion's. As far as does it affect them all? hardly that was an absurd assumption on your part and quite honestly taking what I said so far out of context it was almost not even worth responding to. Hate to break it to you but fact is Parent's these day's are not acting like parents. They are acting like babysitter's and wanting someone else to do their job for them. Everyone wants to be their childs "Friend" when they need to grow up, and be the parent. Want to know what parenting today is like in american society? Talk to school teachers, or those who deal with kids on a daily basis. They will tell you just how it really is. Oh sure the preacher in the pulpit likes to paint a pretty picture, and a large majority of the christian community like's to pretend we are still living in the 50's. But the reality is much different and most of them are living hypocritical lives. As for my moral standards, I am against abortion, I am against pre marital sex, i have lived my life in line with bible ethics. However I have my eye's open enough to realize that this world is far from perfect and children must be taught the gritty reality of it so they can deal with daily life once they get outside in the real world. My parents sheltered me, I assure you the Real world was a damn hard slap in the face from what I knew. I was pissed at them for years over not teaching me what to really expect. Now things have deterioriated far beyond what it was when I was that age, and I know for a fact my child will understand quite clearly what the reality of the world is. If you want to keep living with your head buried beneath the sand be my guest, but dont act like I am the one with issues when I am clearly not the one in denial of what this world is. That said, Just because we were raised generally with christian moral's, in no way shape or form makes them right. As I have said before and as I will continue to say, Culture determine's a Great deal of one's perception. Frankly alot of other culture's are far older then our own, does not make them right but does not make them wrong either. As far as religion is concerned, again get out open your eye's and do some actual research. Christianity is a scant 2,000 years old. There are many religion's that are double that age and a couple others even older then that. So which one is right? Fact is you cannot answer that because there is no correct answer. To assume you are right and everyone else is wrong just wreaks of Arrogance. So the answer is not which is right, but Which is right for me. So if you feel like continuing this innane argument, feel free but do not bother until you can come with some facts to back you up. Otherwise keep your head in the sand and remain happily oblivious to reality.
You wasted too much time on your rant about nothing. I clearly provided the knowledge of the meaning of prude, you choose not to realize that by being bombastic and ignoring my post.
I am sorry that you feel jaded that your parents did not teach you specifics, that is not subject matter that anyone needs to be taught. Sexual discovery should be made on your own, if you are not resourcefull enough or smart enough, then that is your own fault.
You said " You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence?"
So with this rhetorical question (Concidence?) you wern't insinuating that the United States' morality leads to rape? It seems pretty clear that you were.
You want numbers that Christian morals don't lead to sexual deviance? OK, noone that I associate with has raped anyone, aborted a child, or committed any sex crime. Your retort was pointless, morals do not lead to crimes, that is asinine. If it did, the majority of Christians would be registered sex offenders.
The fact that teens get pregnant has nothing to do with having a Christian moral based soceity. The moral laws do not lead to deviance, the correlation is retarded. Yes, the US has issues with teen pregnancy, that has nothing to do with teaching kids anything about sex. It has to do with parents not being a part of their childrens lives.
The breakdown of the standard household over the last fifty years has lead to the problems you describe, not teaching children anything else about sex. Parents do not enforce rules correctly, parenting is wrong for the most part in the United States. People are scared to discipline children because of some fanatics.
Now what do children "need" to be taught about sex? Personal discovery is very important. In order to realize ones identity, you have to learn things on your own. You cannot teach someone to not be shy, it is a personal struggle that they need to overcome. It is the idea that we need to teach every aspect of life to everyone that is breaking down our soceity.
Plain and simple, it is entirely the parents fault if their children turn out to be deviants. It is not the nations overall attitude towards certain subject matter.
Now explain to me where I said that teen pregnancy wasn't an issue? You blew alot of hot air in this post that had nothing to do with the things I said. I never disputed any facts about the state of rapes,sexual crimes, abortion, or teen pregnancy. I simply stated that these are not products of a Christian moral based soceity.
Donno if its ben said as i only read upto page 3 but sex is legal at 14 in japan and china soo its all legal o.O and aniame/manga looks like sthere 13 w/e cos it is just anaiome and manga its ink of a page there not much you csn do to make some one looks a diff age -___-;
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You wasted too much time on your rant about nothing. I clearly provided the knowledge of the meaning of prude, you choose not to realize that by being bombastic and ignoring my post. Um, ok...whatever you want to think. Im not going to continue to play teacher. I am sorry that you feel jaded that your parents did not teach you how to give blow jobs, that is not subject matter that anyone needs to be taught. Sexual discovery should be made on your own, if you are not resourcefull enough or smart enough, then that is your own fault. Who said I am jaded? and nice going to extreme's there. I was speaking in generalities there. I did not say parents need to teach children the intimate details, again another assumtion to an extreme. They however need to make it crystal clear what the consequences are. This is not being Taught, and you live in a cave if you think so. Sex is taboo in this country and more and more people are realizing it. If people would pull their head's out of the sand we might make some progress. However its not just about Sex, my previous rant did go a bit overboard as I broadened my topic, I was referring to alot of the reality of the world that Parents fail to teach their children. You said " You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence?" So with this rhetorical question (Concidence?) you wern't insinuating that the United States' morality leads to rape? It seems pretty clear that you were. Morality? pfft I am speaking about Life lessons here bud. Quite frankly morality is subjective to what I have said all along. Culture determine's one's moral inclinations. It does not mean it will apply to every single person but the percentage is higher. Now going back to what I said earlier in this post and feel free to reread the previous quoted paragraph, I stated quite clearly what this society as a whole seems to think of Sex. Now admittedly I could have kept the point simple and not gone into the sex crimes part and just stuck to thing's such as teen pregnancy, but I figured it would be obivous. It was to the OP he obviously got it. You want numbers that Christian morals don't lead to sexual deviance? OK, noone that I associate with has raped anyone, aborted a child, or committed any sex crime. Your retort was pointless, morals do not lead to crimes, that is asinine. If it did, the majority of Christians would be registered sex offenders. Again see the preceeding The fact that teens get pregnant has nothing to do with having a Christian moral based soceity. The moral laws do not lead to deviance, the correlation is retarded. Yes, the US has issues with teen pregnancy, that has nothing to do with teaching kids anything about sex. It has to do with parents not being a part of their childrens lives. Correct, But it has everything to do with an overly prudish society treating sex as a taboo and avoiding proper teaching of it. The breakdown of the standard household over the last fifty years has lead to the problems you describe, not teaching children anything else about sex. Parents do not enforce rules correctly, parenting is wrong for the most part in the United States. People are scared to discipline children because of some fanatics. Never once would I disagree with this statement. Only difference being I look at everything a parent should be teaching their child and not selectively. Failing to teach their children about sex contributes an equal part to the steady decline of society. Afterall because the subject is so taboo, children are constantly taught its bad and you cannot have it. Lets be brutally honest here, I am not far out from being in that age group as I am still 26. When a parent says no, what is it that kids automatically want? what they are told no too of course. The problem is not that parent's are not saying no, its that they are saying no and not bothering to explain why. the excuse of "Because I said so, because I am the parent" does not fly and just create's a worse problem. Now what do children "need" to be taught about sex? Personal discovery is very important. In order to realize ones identity, you have to learn things on your own. You cannot teach someone to not be shy, it is a personal struggle that they need to overcome. It is the idea that we need to teach every aspect of life to everyone that is breaking down our soceity. Again read previous statement's no need to rehash. There is a difference in what I deem as teaching about sex and what you consider that much is obvious. Plain and simple, it is entirely the parents fault if their children turn out to be deviants. It is not the nations overall attitude towards certain subject matter. The nation's overall attitude break's down into the individual parents at some point. They are intrisically tied into one another, as you cannot have individual parents with one attitude and a nation of those parents with a different one. Now explain to me where I said that teen pregnancy wasn't an issue? You blew alot of hot air in this post that had nothing to do with the things I said. I never disputed any facts about the state of rapes,sexual crimes, abortion, or teen pregnancy. I simply stated that these are not products of a Christian moral based soceity.
You stated, and I have shown clearly where, why and how these problems are directly related to society.
I agree with the O.P. and any anime fan who has scoured the internet looking for kewl pictures knows there is a deviant part of the anime world. Pictures of seemingly pre-teen girls scantily clad in compromising positions. Sometimes with their nipples showing or worse, it's disgusting to me, but hey I'm not attracted to 12 year olds.
Whatever you're into, but to me it's pedophilia. And quite a sad commentary on the underbelly of society in the world. You guys who get off on it are going to hell, have fun there!
Originally posted by anarchyart I agree with the O.P. and any anime fan who has scoured the internet looking for kewl pictures knows there is a deviant part of the anime world. Pictures of seemingly pre-teen girls scantily clad in compromising positions. Sometimes with their nipples showing or worse, it's disgusting to me, but hey I'm not attracted to 12 year olds. Whatever you're into, but to me it's pedophilia. And quite a sad commentary on the underbelly of society in the world. You guys who get off on it are going to hell, have fun there!
I think it's sickening and although I want to agree with you Anarchy I don't really feel I can. It's not the same as doing the same and those who.. ugh.. do that stuff and don't do any more aren't at fault. But I feel that stuff is just a gateway to trying the real thing although the same could be tried at video games but it all depends on the maturity of the user which is WHY the games are rated 'mature' on the ESRB.. silly parents and their GTA givings.
n : a person excessively concerned about propriety and decorum
propriety
n : correct or appropriate behavior
decorum
n : Appropriateness of behavior or conduct
prudent
adj.: Wise in handling practical matters; exercising good judgment or common sense.
Ok since you insist that this is related to sexual activities, please explain to me how using prude to describe sex isn't liberal spin.
Um, ok...whatever you want to think. Im not going to continue to play teacher.
Who said I am jaded?
My parents sheltered me, I assure you the Real world was a damn hard slap in the face from what I knew. I was pissed at them for years over not teaching me what to really expect.
jaded
adj.: Cynically or pretentiously callous
You said it yourself.
The nation's overall attitude break's down into the individual parents at some point.
Correct, when it becomes the majority, but we are far from that.
So what is it that parents aren't teaching children about sex? Its obivously not all parents. The majority of people that I assoiciate with were properly educated with basic knowledge and saftey practices. I believe that our conservitive outlook on sexuality is a good thing. On the other hand I think that parents that don't properly supervise their children is a bad thing. If parents pay more attention to their kids instead of letting the internet and television baby sit them, then we would see less of the things you pointed out.
These days most parents do not know the parents of their childrens friends. Most parents couldn't tell you who their child was friends with. Most parents couldn't tell you where their child was on a given weekend.
The majority of social issues stem from lack of parental involvement, not from lack of sex ed. If you lead children to raise themselves the majority will remain children for their entire life.
Children that have proper supervision are more intelligent, more outgoing, and morally strong people. The unsupervised children do drugs, drink, get pregnant, fight, do other stupid childish crap.
Neither one of those examples has anything to do with the amount of sex education that anyone provides. Its the amount of parenting that is provided.
I'm an Atheist but damn that line in the bible is true on so many levels and will always be.. what I'm trying to say is that before you go criticizing other nations/cultures/way of life take the time to evaluate your own and see it's disgusting, putridly ugly face (this applies to all countries). In the meantime just shut up because I find this thread very offensive and I'm not even Japanese or Asian at all.
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Man seriously, Japanese people are way disturbing ...
im a tenticle fan btw!
Again any credibility you could've had is lost. Calling someone names then saying they aren't mature enough to speak with you?
Again, you have issues.
The fact that you think I honestly care about what someone who has yet to read or comprehend what I said that the OP easily figured out think's of my credability, is highly amusing.
If you think for a moment I was bashing American's then you have a comprehension issue. Kindly get off the cross someone else needs the wood thanks.
Good to see some good discussions spawned from alittle shallow first post.
Distress, please refrain from saying people have issues. Join the discussion, or at least elaborate on why you feel someone has issues.
Sure they may be Pedophile's but hey, they make good video games, so it balances out.
Since we're on the topic....
Does anyone have the picture with the old asian man wearing a dress and is hugging onto a lifesize anime doll? It was hillarious! And i can't find it anywhere.
Err.. which countries would these be exactly?
there are none, it is an outward lie or misunderstanding on the part of the guy who said it
India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it.
Trust me - ignorance truly is bliss.
I agree with Dekoth, He is the MAN. Obvoiusly Americans think SEX is a TABOO. Over in Japan, they do like young girls. That is when they are in their prime (japanese thinking)
There was a thread once that was about a black teacher in japan and his experiences. If it is true which I believe it was (benefit of the doubt) then the japanese love young women and ginormus breasts.
I agreed pretty much with you till the part about america being afraid to teach about sex. OMG, that's seriously laughable, the diversity of how people in america teach their children about sex isn't a simple steorotypical assumption. In some cases, children are scared to be taught by their parents, I honestly wouldn't want to hear it from my parents. Think about that for awhile, I learned about sex from my mom, she told me I came out of her belly but, after that I learned the mechanics at school from a teacher that is suspiciously feministic. All I got to say.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
I will not refrain from saying someone has issues when they clearly do. Correlation of Christian based moral law and sexual deviance is not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination.
Saying that moral laws lead to violent crimes is borderline retarded. This was nothing more than an ignorant liberal bash at American soceity.
By the way since you don't know what prude means:
It has nothing to do with sexual deviance, it is the annoying liberal takeover of the word that associates caring about your household and acting in a respectful manner to being afraid of a consensual sexual act.
Just because the majority of Americans do not wish to allow their children to view live sexuality on their daytime programming does not mean that they will all become pregnant out of wedlock and go rape people.
You mean as young as this? I think they might like them young but they don't sleep with them young....
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Incest is illegal in Egypt and India. Even though it happens there, it is not supported as a social norm.
According to law, incest falls under the provision of unnatural offences under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Incest was a norm with some ancient cultures, there is not one country where this is legal today.
Although incest happens more often in certain cultures and soceities, does not make it an acceptable practice by any means. Please provide your information that "India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it."
If this were true, then I would've written my anthropology thesis on it.
Incest is illegal in Egypt and India. Even though it happens there, it is not supported as a social norm.
According to law, incest falls under the provision of unnatural offences under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Incest was a norm with some ancient cultures, there is not one country where this is legal today.
Although incest happens more often in certain cultures and soceities, does not make it an acceptable practice by any means. Please provide your information that "India and Egypt are the two countries 'known' for it."
If this were true, then I would've written my anthropology thesis on it.
It's not even about incest, it's just about breaking them in before any other man breaks the hymen. I don't know -why- they would do it, but they do.
Oh, and the South of North America.. you still think just because it's illegal people won't do it? You really are daft if you think that people won't find a way around the laws.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest
Just on a skim you'll find one of these but probably even more if you looked hard enough,"It is widely, but by no means universally, agreed that incest by parents is abuse and should be illegal. Some societies considered incest an inescapable fact of life. In many societies some forms of sexual contact between close family members is socially (and sometimes even publicly) encouraged. For example, in Bali it was encouraged for mothers to sexually stimulate infants."
Among others, but it may not be widely accepted but some will even if it is against the law, they'd do it in secret because they feel they have the right to.
It has nothing to do with sexual deviance, it is the annoying liberal takeover of the word that associates caring about your household and acting in a respectful manner to being afraid of a consensual sexual act.
Just because the majority of Americans do not wish to allow their children to view live sexuality on their daytime programming does not mean that they will all become pregnant out of wedlock and go rape people.
Who said anything about viewing sexuality on daytime programming? I certaintly did not I do not want to see that on TV any more then the next person. But the fact is Sexuality in this country is Taboo, regardless of if you want to admit it or not. Teen's are flatly not being taught what they need to be taught about it. If they were we would not be battling a teen pregnancy rate that is of nearly epidemic proportion's. As far as does it affect them all? hardly that was an absurd assumption on your part and quite honestly taking what I said so far out of context it was almost not even worth responding to.
Hate to break it to you but fact is Parent's these day's are not acting like parents. They are acting like babysitter's and wanting someone else to do their job for them. Everyone wants to be their childs "Friend" when they need to grow up, and be the parent. Want to know what parenting today is like in american society? Talk to school teachers, or those who deal with kids on a daily basis. They will tell you just how it really is. Oh sure the preacher in the pulpit likes to paint a pretty picture, and a large majority of the christian community like's to pretend we are still living in the 50's. But the reality is much different and most of them are living hypocritical lives.
As for my moral standards, I am against abortion, I am against pre marital sex, i have lived my life in line with bible ethics. However I have my eye's open enough to realize that this world is far from perfect and children must be taught the gritty reality of it so they can deal with daily life once they get outside in the real world. My parents sheltered me, I assure you the Real world was a damn hard slap in the face from what I knew. I was pissed at them for years over not teaching me what to really expect. Now things have deterioriated far beyond what it was when I was that age, and I know for a fact my child will understand quite clearly what the reality of the world is. If you want to keep living with your head buried beneath the sand be my guest, but dont act like I am the one with issues when I am clearly not the one in denial of what this world is.
That said, Just because we were raised generally with christian moral's, in no way shape or form makes them right. As I have said before and as I will continue to say, Culture determine's a Great deal of one's perception. Frankly alot of other culture's are far older then our own, does not make them right but does not make them wrong either. As far as religion is concerned, again get out open your eye's and do some actual research. Christianity is a scant 2,000 years old. There are many religion's that are double that age and a couple others even older then that. So which one is right? Fact is you cannot answer that because there is no correct answer. To assume you are right and everyone else is wrong just wreaks of Arrogance. So the answer is not which is right, but Which is right for me.
So if you feel like continuing this innane argument, feel free but do not bother until you can come with some facts to back you up. Otherwise keep your head in the sand and remain happily oblivious to reality.
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You wasted too much time on your rant about nothing.
I clearly provided the knowledge of the meaning of prude, you choose not to realize that by being bombastic and ignoring my post.
I am sorry that you feel jaded that your parents did not teach you specifics, that is not subject matter that anyone needs to be taught. Sexual discovery should be made on your own, if you are not resourcefull enough or smart enough, then that is your own fault.
You said " You also have to consider another thing, The US is one of the most Prudish nations in the world. We are the only country that is Afraid to teach our children about Sex, we are the only country that Sex is considered Sinful and wicked by a disproportionate part of the populace. Perhaps people in this country need to open their eye's and realize perhaps its not that the rest of the world is wrong, perhaps we are. Afterall we are the most prudish nation yet have the Highest Teen pregnancy, abortion, Rape and other sex related Crime rates in the entire world. Concidence?"
So with this rhetorical question (Concidence?) you wern't insinuating that the United States' morality leads to rape? It seems pretty clear that you were.
You want numbers that Christian morals don't lead to sexual deviance? OK, noone that I associate with has raped anyone, aborted a child, or committed any sex crime. Your retort was pointless, morals do not lead to crimes, that is asinine. If it did, the majority of Christians would be registered sex offenders.
The fact that teens get pregnant has nothing to do with having a Christian moral based soceity. The moral laws do not lead to deviance, the correlation is retarded. Yes, the US has issues with teen pregnancy, that has nothing to do with teaching kids anything about sex. It has to do with parents not being a part of their childrens lives.
The breakdown of the standard household over the last fifty years has lead to the problems you describe, not teaching children anything else about sex. Parents do not enforce rules correctly, parenting is wrong for the most part in the United States. People are scared to discipline children because of some fanatics.
Now what do children "need" to be taught about sex? Personal discovery is very important. In order to realize ones identity, you have to learn things on your own. You cannot teach someone to not be shy, it is a personal struggle that they need to overcome. It is the idea that we need to teach every aspect of life to everyone that is breaking down our soceity.
Plain and simple, it is entirely the parents fault if their children turn out to be deviants. It is not the nations overall attitude towards certain subject matter.
Now explain to me where I said that teen pregnancy wasn't an issue? You blew alot of hot air in this post that had nothing to do with the things I said. I never disputed any facts about the state of rapes,sexual crimes, abortion, or teen pregnancy. I simply stated that these are not products of a Christian moral based soceity.
Donno if its ben said as i only read upto page 3 but sex is legal at 14 in japan and china soo its all legal o.O and aniame/manga looks like sthere 13 w/e cos it is just anaiome and manga its ink of a page there not much you csn do to make some one looks a diff age -___-;
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I agree with the O.P. and any anime fan who has scoured the internet looking for kewl pictures knows there is a deviant part of the anime world. Pictures of seemingly pre-teen girls scantily clad in compromising positions. Sometimes with their nipples showing or worse, it's disgusting to me, but hey I'm not attracted to 12 year olds.
Whatever you're into, but to me it's pedophilia. And quite a sad commentary on the underbelly of society in the world. You guys who get off on it are going to hell, have fun there!
Ok since you insist that this is related to sexual activities, please explain to me how using prude to describe sex isn't liberal spin.
You said it yourself.
Correct, when it becomes the majority, but we are far from that.So what is it that parents aren't teaching children about sex? Its obivously not all parents. The majority of people that I assoiciate with were properly educated with basic knowledge and saftey practices. I believe that our conservitive outlook on sexuality is a good thing. On the other hand I think that parents that don't properly supervise their children is a bad thing. If parents pay more attention to their kids instead of letting the internet and television baby sit them, then we would see less of the things you pointed out.
These days most parents do not know the parents of their childrens friends. Most parents couldn't tell you who their child was friends with. Most parents couldn't tell you where their child was on a given weekend.
The majority of social issues stem from lack of parental involvement, not from lack of sex ed. If you lead children to raise themselves the majority will remain children for their entire life.
Children that have proper supervision are more intelligent, more outgoing, and morally strong people. The unsupervised children do drugs, drink, get pregnant, fight, do other stupid childish crap.
Neither one of those examples has anything to do with the amount of sex education that anyone provides. Its the amount of parenting that is provided.
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I'm an Atheist but damn that line in the bible is true on so many levels and will always be.. what I'm trying to say is that before you go criticizing other nations/cultures/way of life take the time to evaluate your own and see it's disgusting, putridly ugly face (this applies to all countries). In the meantime just shut up because I find this thread very offensive and I'm not even Japanese or Asian at all.
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