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ANyone playing WoW and Eve?
Zaxxor
Member Posts: 8
in EVE Online
I am currently playing WoW and haved become bored as hell with the end game. I was looking to move to another game and looking for anyone that may be able to compare EVE to WoW...
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Waiting on Guild Wars 2
I think that would be hard to do, apples and oranges.
There will probably be someone better suited to answer your question though.
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From everyone that's really into it loves it, don't let the learning curve scare you away.
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I just started playing and here is my 2 cents on EVE:
TO get started all you need to do is read the forums here and on the Official Site. Do the Tutorial and pay attention, its vital to an easy start. Run those newbie missions, and relax.
Its a very slow start.
Skill Training runs on an real world timer, Mining and Missions take time, Money is relatively easy to come by as long as your willing to mine or run the missions (or hunt).
I certainly dont understand EVERYTHING but I dont think the learning curve is all that steep. Comparitively it might be since other MMOs are basically similar but by itself you just have to pay attention. obviously not for those afflicted with ADHD
Plan your training i.e. if you need new skills level one trains fast so get those out of the way in game, level 2 takes about an hour (so far) so do those while you are in game or go eat dinner etc, then before you go to bed train a lvl 3 or 4 (most people suggest start training learning skils first).
OH also dont be afraid to ask questions on any of the forums or in game so far everybody is really helpful. In three evenings I have bought 3 ships (2 frigates and a destroyer) and I have outfitted 1 frigate for mining, one frigate for combat (albeit limited), sitting on my destroyer. I have almost all of my "basic" skills trained to lvl 2 and many of those are lvl 3 and even a few at lvl 4. Assuming I have the skills I need atm.
Hi there
I have played EVE-online for about a year and a half now.. And 2 months ago i created my first char in WOW.. Now i would say
Teamplay and really fast action: The one and only EVE is the right choice
But ofcourse the teamplay in wow is also good but eve has much more to offer a player over a long time.. Wow will only keep u busy until u get level 60 ( 3-4 weeks)
Eve can also be boring! Endless mining for a better ship.. Mining for the ship u lost.. Mining to keep a POS up and running. But if u like politics and PVp, stuff like that. Join an alliance
An alliance is a corperation in many ways.. it consist of many corperations forged into one huge and they control an amount of space in the eve universe..
In WOW there is no such thing as terretory control.. its just a kind of hit and run game.. You usally makes a raid group and attack a town, a boss or something who respawns or will keep coming back.. There are no politics in this game whatsoever..
However i would make myself an EVE char and train him while i play WOW because the first 2-3 months ur not worth anything.. U can barerly keep an cruiser up and running..
But if i want to choose one of the games it would be EVE-online..
It has so much more to offer than WOW has.. But wow is also GREAT fun! Im really addicted to the stupid wow game.. but not for long i think..
I hope this will help you out! And if u need a corperation to get you started visit www.funkalistic.com or simply evemail Serkis ingame
A game will only be what u want it to be
Have a nice day
Played eve for 2+ years.
Played Wow for 6 months or so.
2 totally different types of game
Eve is awesome in that your actions really have some meaning - the opponent has real losses, you can conquer territory, have an effect on the market, forge meaningful alliances etc.
WoW is very transitory, nothing really has any lasting effect, its a one way road from lvl1 to lvl60.
Eve is full on PvP which makes the adrenalin flow. WoW is.. meh at PvP. Couldn't care less, just die and respawn and go about my business, or just log off and ignore. In Eve, if you log off, you are giving away territory, letting your enemy get a foothold.
PvE - WoW is the clear winner with interesting storylines and excellent quests that let you feel like you are accomplishing "somethgin" in an hour or less.
PvE Eve is "meh". The AI is poor and the missions are REALLY repetitive.
In Eve, you can make an impact and be a meaningful part of a team in a week or so. (frig tackler/scout) - in WoW you have to grind up a looooong time. And the ONLY way to grind is killing things/questing. Eve has multiple ways of advancing and you can "keep up" with others in skills easily.
Basically, Eve is a "virtual world" with real politics, warfare, which sucks you in and keeps you involved in your corp. WoW is more the "I'm bored and wanna whack things" game to get quick thrills for a few hours. The two games are at opposite ends of the spectrum, and compliment each other quite well i think.
As many here have stated, it is hard to compare the two games, as they are VERY different in theme, gameplay mechanics, and so on. However, I have been playing WoW for 10 months, and still find it fun in many ways. I also have gotten about 3 weeks into Eve (yep, Im a newb) and I find it a very fascinating game that goes much deeper in many ways that WoW or SWG (which I played for nearly 2 years).
Eve is not a game for power-levelers. If you spanked out your lvl 60 in WoW in a matter a weeks, do not expect to do the same in Eve. The skill system is geared up to allow off-line progression so you are not required to be 'active' during the whole trip up the level trees. Some folks like this, others think it takes too much away in terms of reward. I like it because I can have a real life outside of the game while not losing ground with my character progression.
However, I think the real reason I am posting here to share my current balancing of the two games. In WoW, I am a hopeless PvP addict (I RARELY PvE). I play a TON of battlegrounds. The problem is that on my server, the horde population is low, thus the Alliance is always waiting in long BG queues. So, I get queued up in the BG, alt-tab out to Eve, and run a mission, or make a trade delivery, or something similar. Point is, the draw-back some ppl have about Eve is this downtime, which I use to PvP in WoW, and vice versa. The fact that I can play both concurrently has saved me from leaving WoW completely because spending an hour waiting on a 20 minute Arathi Basin match gets very old.
Not that everyone wants to play 2 games, but myself and a couple of my guildies do it, and have found it to be a great deal of fun. Sorta like the old saying, dont put all your eggs in one basket. When one gets 'boring' the other game steps in and breaks up the monotonous elements.
Darkwynd
WoW - Eve - BF2
I never did play WoW, but my roommate plays it all the time so I have some vicarious bias towards it, but I have played all of the other MMO's that are similar to it, including EQ2.
So to compare all the factors that matter to me.
PVP in WoW, DAoC, and games of that nature. The only penalty is that you die, you might have an experience penalty, or rez sickness or whatever, but other than that it doesn't matter if you die.
PVP in EVE. If you die, your ship is gone, unless you have it insured, every cent you paid for it is gone as well. Your implants are gone if you get podded.
Economy in other MMO's. So-so to say the least. You can tell the Devs try, but its just not very good.
Economy in EVE. The players decide what prices things go for. The prices are mostly based on supply and demand. A lot of people in the game make a living just from running trade routes.
Missions. Other MMO's win when it comes to missions. In EVE they're pretty repetitive, and unless you find a Security Agent, there's a lot of boring traveling involved.
Travel. During the first couple days there's a lot of downtime when it comes to travel in EVE. Once you learn to localize, and plan trips to other regions accordingly, it's not that bad. This isn't a game where you're SUPPOSED to see every star system in the universe. Although exploring all of them would be fun in my opinion.
NPC fighting. In EVE this can be repetitive also, but this isn't the focuse of the game. The focus of the game is the economy and the player-run corporations.
There are full-scale wars fought in EVE which could be compared to Raids in other MMO's except that there is a whoooole lot of tactics involved. Positioning covert ops, sending the heavily armored battelships in first, sending in tackling frigates to make sure the enemy can't get away. All kinds of tactics are involved in the game.
The two are very different games, and I think to fully understand all the differences you'd have to play EVE for a few weeks. The Help channels are more than helpful and I've never had a question not answered by them within a few minutes.
Happy hunting and I hope you find the game for you.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
I play both and I wouldn't know where to start, the PvP element of EVE is closer to that of a WoW PvP server.
But Dieing in EVE hurts way more
, I know I've done it in both.
Just wish EVE had more ways of customising your ship.
Actually I believe they're looking into things like having your corp flag displayed on your ship, but as far as other customizations like colors and shape and such, I don't think they'll ever make that available, because of how generic the ships are supposed to be. I mean you're buying them from a shipyard. Just like every Tech 1 Toyota Corolla looks the same, every Tech 1 Gallente Vexor should look the same.
Especially since people go through ships like archers go through ammo a lot of times. The game doesn't focus on what ship you fly defining you, but how you fly that ship that defines you. (Crap that sounds like a Fast and the Furious quote "It's not how you stand beside your car, it's how you drive it") which actually rings true for EVE all the way.
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I played EvE off an on for a year and I've played WoW and EQ. Personally, I have had a difficult time getting into EvE because if you don't get in good corp you're toast from the get go. I'm certainly not slagging the game, the potential is high, but I never got to see these big corp battles or fight for space because I keep being told I need X amount of skill points to surivive in 0.0 space (maybe that advice is wrong). I never really had someone take me under their wing and show me the real ropes of this game and I got tired of looking around message boards for answers to basic question.
But IMO EvE's learning system is very prohibitve. If the PvE content was there this would be a GREAT game.
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These games are not comparable - one is a scifi space simulation and another is based on medieval fantasy world (warcraft theme). You can compare an idea behind them, sort of. The idea behind WoW is to make a fun, easy to learn, easy to play game - where any1, young or old, can play it and reach to the top. WoW is heavily oriented on casual players, so hardcore players that play a LOT rightfuly complain that there is nothing to do at high end, not much content, no tangible PvP, grinding for epic gear...
Eve on the other hand has a LOT of high end content, but to reach that content you need to spend a MASSIVE amount of time and effort. I played Eve for a month and i couldnt reach much, i didnt even get to the 0.0 space becuase if i were to lose my ship, id lose pretty much everything and i would hate to start all over just becuase some punk kid with big guns and ego decided to take revenge on me becuase his mommy spanked him for getting an F on his exam. All I was stuck with is trading (not very profitable unlessu have a good ship and lots of money), mining (gets boring doing same stuff over and over) or NPC hunting (same stuff as mining). I believe someone said that if Eve would of had much more PvE content, then it would be realy realy good game. Im not into PvP much, i preffer PvE for the most time. I mean i dont mind PvPing from time to time but not when i lose everything iworked for the whole month...
In short words, WoW is like Counterstrike, some say its meaningless, and yet it has most number of people, and it keeps growing. Eve is like Everquest in space, HUGE potential to be a game with millions of players, HUGE amount of content in a form of player based economy, player controlled world, great tangible PvP. Unfortunately the first one is mostly oriented for casual players and the other for dedicated hardcore players. With 3-4 hours to spend per day, i cant do much in Eve, so I have to stick with WoW and quick paced games like CS or Planetside. If you have time and dedication to invest time, you like spacetrading and player economy, dont mind losing a lot by dying on a dangerous mission, then Even is for u. If you like quick action, login-slay some mobs/PCs, logout, then WoW is for you.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I played Eve when it first came out and then again when EA shut down Earth and Beyond, then wow came out. Eve is very cool but for some reason didnt feel as much part of it ( hard to explain) wow is kinda getting to be the same grind now so thinking of something else. I cant believe Eve is rated as top score on this site according to games list. Maybe they did something to it in the last year. Eve was always good and worth a look. Wanna try something very different and cool? try Saga of Ryzom. I play that every once in a while still. I Wanna try Vendetta sometime again. Back to your question. Try the free 14 day trial. Its worth a try. So is Saga of Ryzom for sure. I used to hate installing demos because when you uninstall they always left some traces in registry. I use a program that tracks every change made when installing so it completely uninstalls it all and then run a registry cleaner to make sure. Sorry for veering so far from the original subject. Good luck.
Played just about every retail mmorpg ever out and currently beta testing Face of Mankind which is the wierdest yet. had soem exciting times but mostley confusing and frustrating. I really liked Motor City online and waiting for Auto Assault to release. I wish UT 2004 was a morpg
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The Exodus expansion, and then the Coldwar addon have added a lot to the game since it first came out. Midclass ships like Battlecruisers, destroyers, as well as tech 2 ships like Assault class and Heavy Assault class. Also there are now Outposts as well as Player Owned Stations. And lots of Tech 2 equipment. I'd definitely say it's worth another look if you just played it when it first came out. I looked and read about how it was when it first came out and I probably wouldn't have liked it as much as I do now.
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"The Exodus expansion, and then the Coldwar addon have added a lot to the game since it first came out."
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I didnt know they released an expansion or add on. are they patches or full blown add ons you pay for and add a lot to the game? I will check it out again. Thanks for the info.
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You dont pay for the add-ons in this game
thats one of the nice things about it...
If pitbulls could lock their jaw the first pitbull would still be hanging on
I didn't realize they had an expansion until I downloaded the client and it said "Eve Online: Exodus" and then in the little description box it said "Cold War Edition" and I was like, "Sweet I just got the game, an expansion, and an addon."
Forgot to note, the HUD is different since expansion as well. Also I hear people talking about how the skills are different, and also certain trade routes have been changed. lol a lot has changed since it's release.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.
dont u dare start playing MMORPG unless u want to be hooked
The endgames in both EVE and WOW hinge on basically the same factor.
-"How easily can you raise a handful of players that communicate well in order to go on a raid/hunting trip/gate camp breakup/territorial crusade?"
The difference is that with EVE, you can participate in the endgame within one week. If you feel that you can't manage it the first week, it is likely that you will never, ever feel you can no matter how much sp or money you have. Tip: PvPers focus on frigates or other elite small craft. NPCers and such focus on Battleships. Granted, there is a grinding version of pvp that involves sniping, but it isn't recommended.
The solo player aspects of EVE are simply horrid. The solo player aspects of WOW are only acceptable because they are brainlessly straitforward and easier to do than sit around not doing.
Of course, you can get in a Raven and solo your whole career (and get fairly capital-rich) or you can be a market mover and shaker or a manufacturing pro. At some point though, you will realize it is more fun to find some cooperative or diplomatic way to do those things. It's more fun to sell pre-fitted ships. It's interesting to secure contracts for the provision of goods. It's classy to appease the leader of the barbaric horde with shiny toys. It's expected that leaders of rival empires get together to make sure things stay interesting for their peons. It's enjoyable to let your character fall into a story, and it's even easier if it's a story many people can share.
Essentially, you don't HAVE to have a corp, but you do have to network with people in order to have a good time. CCP encourages the social aspect by ratcheting the former up to plotting, espionage, and conspiracy. If you are being a good, unassuming, loyal person, then you are making everyone around you that much more bored.
EVE centers around the singular thought of how you can make other persons useful to you as well as themselves. The greatest hallucinogen afterall is Power. This will normally seem impossible or unlikely, but when it does- and it does - you will see why people speak about EVE as though it were capable of inducing vertigo.
dont u dare start playing MMORPG unless u want to be hooked
I played both as well.... for about 4 days. I played WoW on my roommate's 10-day buddypass, and I must say people always complain about EVE being boring. I almost fell asleep while playing WoW. I tried grouping, but people told me not to at the beginning, and I shortly found out why. Everything was sooooo easy, that I could sit back and just attack anything I saw. I quested until I got to level 13 which took a grand total of 6-8 hours, but I swear I couldn't play the game for longer than an hour or so at a time, because I would get soooo bored.
Mining in EVE was more fun for me than WoW, so now I don't play both. lol
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I live to fight, and fight to live.