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"Lol strouse you've been whining about this title since your game Mourning went the way of the shitter."
http://www.realmsofkrel.com
what went the way of the shitter? Even now Mourning looks more promising than DnL which is pretty sad.
Wardrop , I wouldn't try to compare DnL with Mourning and make it look better if I were you because DnL is going down the exact same road mourning did with it's 6 month premature launch and charging people to play an unfinished game.. DnL needs to find investors and be put back in closed development until its ready to launch like mourning is doing. Not this paid beta stuff.
"Mourning was removed from these and pretty much every other big name gaming sites listing."
Mourning was removed from here because it was a mutual thing on both sides. because they were allowing people here to post lies about CC fraud and so on.
" big profit doesn't have to mean nice game at least not in my world"
thats because your not the one getting that $$$ those games make.
How many times do you need to edit your post?
Your Rebuttal is weak. My point was made.
Have a nice day.
FoE Fist of the Empire
Mourning was more like a bunt, that dinged off the edge of the bat, smacked the batter in the face and landing in the catches hands where he quickly tagged the stunned batter and was the batter was sent back to the dugout
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its webpage is still down. just a pretty (and by pretty i mean "game sucking" front page)
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Now with Dark and Light its going to take alot from that dev team to convince me to buy thier product. i dont just support games cause ive been waiting along time for it come out, i expect they have been making the game something people want to play =and from the sounds of soft release doesnt make me happy=
--not the open beta thing, but the release itself when people have to pay for it--
missing a huge amount of content doesnt bode well with me.
"its webpage is still down"
thats because its in development where DnL should be too.
"Your Rebuttal is weak"
I don't tink it was. I think it summed up what DnL currently is doing quite nicely.
Theres not much hope for DnL at this point... It has all the looks of a rushed release and a very incomplete product. Whether you like it or not that is what it is. If it looked like an awesome game than I would say that but it doesn't...
DnL is probably slightly more complete than Mourning was when it launched premature but I'll gurantee you not by much.
DnL is launching 6 months early and CHARGING you to play it.. and people still try and defend it. It needs to be put back in development until its 100% done like mourning is doing. Thats the only way it will succeed. No one pays to play unfinished games when theres so many finished ons out there to play instead.
No one pays to play unfinished games when theres so many finished ons out there to play instead.
I agree 100%
FoE Fist of the Empire
Mourning was removed from our site due to the unprofessional conduct via emails and PMs from their developers.
It was not a mutual thing on both sides.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/510/loadthread/36367/setstart/1/loadclass/35
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
if you're gonna keep mocking DnL then at least get your info right.
"SoG is free and everyone can access it." <--- post from AD on DnL forum
"This Dark and Light prelude will be free to access. Also a limited number of Dark and Light game keys will be available from November via pre-ordering, and this will give access to an inevitable pack of features." <--- SoG letter from yesterday
both places it's said that SoG will be free. You only have to pay something if you want to pre-order which then gives some bonus stuff in the end......and I do believe your dear Mourning also took pre-orders, let's just hope that DnL is just a tiny bit less incompetent then Mourning when it comes to pre-orders
do you read about games you bash or do you do so ignorantly?
the prelude/open beta/whatever you'd like to call it starts in november, completely free of charge. The full box release is in april of 2006. I even linked it to you earlier, since you missed it here it is again. if you are going to argue at least do it informed.
Make of it what you will.
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I have to disagree with you on realms of Krell going down the shitter. I cannt imagine one person who knows the history of that game will spend the money to play it when ever it is finally released again. Trying to compare Dark &Light releasing the game with Realms of Krell is weak. First off Realms of Krells release was supposed to be live so people had to buy it. Secondly you charged people a monthly fee for it. Thirldy you ripped the people who preordered the game off buy charging them 39.99 when you only charged 19.99 when you released the game. What Dark and Light is doing is offering a completely free open beta, the only way you have to pay is if you want to get special ingame rewards now and on the official release date of next year. So please get your facts straight before you try and compare the two games. Also I joined the forums of Dark and Light in May of last year and at that time they had a poll on their site asking people how they would prefer the game being made available, with a resounding shout the gamming community said they wanted a direct download. With a possible box to follow. So please take your hate and stick up your ass.
What's really gonna be funny as hell is when "strouse" decides one night to download Dark and Light so he can further bash it ofcourse, gets caught up in the game, and becomes one of the first people to preorder the game
But we all know that Mr "I'm gonna flame a game I know nothing about" will still be here trying to prove how right he was about the vaporware and ripoff that DnL is. 'Cuz it sure as hell seems that strouse is the kinda guy who would never admit he was wrong.
Ofcourse, I hope to hell I'm wrong about him actually playing DnL and liking it. Because it doesn't take long to figure out exactly what kind of mmo gamer this guy would be.
Can anyone say "Griefer"?
MMO Griefer: A player who cares nothing about playing an mmo game for fun and pleasure, but instead puts every effort possible only to make sure that other players' fun and pleasure are trashed and ruined. This is the mmo griefers only purpose. It can include, but certainly not limited to excessive trash talking, non-stop pk'ing of a player who has no chance of winning, loot and monster stealing, debuffing a player involved in PvE combat and so on.
My definition of the mmo griefer is based only on my personal experiences of having to deal with far too many of them in my mmo gaming but it certainly seems to take the exact same flavor of "strouse" on these forums who's only purpose seems to constantly trash an unknown game even if he is embarrassingly wrong and to cause as much chaos, attention, and dispute as possible in any game forum where he may think people are developing a true liking of a game.
Strouse, I have labeled you as nothing more then a "griefer" when it comes to mmos. You have no purpose, direction, or goals except to cause chaos, discontent, and trouble. This is all blatantly obvious with your constant, non-fact based attacks of this super promising game.
Just one question buddy... Is your life really so lonely and painfully boring that you go to such embarrassing, extensive efforts to draw any attention to yourself?
...As someone else already stated... Strouse, man I really do feel sorry for you.
- Zaxx
let's be careful and not flame anyone.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Its nice to see that alot of the people here have decided to keep it cool and actually answer him with facts. What ever tiny little part of his opinion mightve influenced anyone is now gone. Like I tell everyone, dont get so worked up, its just a game. When its officially released we will see how it ends up, if its bad then very few will buy it, if its good it will have a very positive impact on the MMORPG community as a whole. With the cancelation of several MMO in the past many were wondering what will happen to this franchise, DnL will be a partial contributor to answering that question.
As I said, we will see. Till then, go vent all frustrations on any other games(I suggest a FPS) or hell, maybe go outside, ya know, where the trees and the sun is.
"It was not a mutual thing on both sides."
yes it was mutual. mmorpg.com was ALLOWING people to post lies about their company and doing nothing about it (no surprise there). Than when they had to go so far as to threaten to have those lies removed it was finally done. Than mmorpg finally removed that thread with the lies and than were told they had no problems with them removing all listings of mourning on the site. Thats would be called mutual..
Doesn't say much about mmorpg.com or the fact they support ilegal activities by partnering with IGE and helping them break intellectual property laws of all those games...but we wont get into that.
"charged people a monthly fee for it."
DnL = "No charge from November to April. "Stress Testing". Than I assume there is a low monthly charge to play.
"unprofessional conduct via emails and PMs from their developers."
wrong again..there never was any "unprofessional conduct". Well actualy there was but it was all on mmorpg.com's side of it. The insecure cry babies at mmorpg.com that were taking things that were said completely out of context. For example.. the PM once said that they got all "worked up" because they were once given a tip on a good website dev company to improve this site. So they thought people were trying to put down their site. haha
in the end it makes no difference because the people who ran or owned mourning before are not even involved anymore because of new management and investors..like was stated somewhere before its not even called mourning anymore.
This whole post is nothing but complete crap. Due to all the mis-spelled words and the ignorance of how to quote another post, I would have to say "uhhh, hmmmm who could this possibly be?" I'm betting my money on "Strouse" with another of his many mmorpg log-in names.
How can you even compare Mourning to this website, to a game like DnL, or to anything for that matter and act like the way they handled business practices was better? This is complete nonsense. And you're right.. It isn't called Mourning anymore. It's now called "Age of Mourning". Oooooh, big difference, same game, same devs as before. Gotta be. Nobody in their right mind would EVER purchase the rights to that pile of crap coding after the huge negative image they made for themselves. And different people huh? I already see egomancer has posted on their new forums which they have already locked up from any new posts, lol. For you, for for them to say that it's being released this time under new people is just more of the consistant lies and BS they gave their fans for so many months before the game had it's utterly pathetic release last spring.
To add to this, you attack this site for allowing IGE to advertise here. So what dude?? Get real, smack yourself as hard as you friggin' can across your face and see the light, alright? First of all, all the games for which IGE sells in game goods must allow it, as it happens on ebay constantly. The games may have rules against it in their terms and conditions, but all these same games also have rules against swearing, griefing, etc etc. And we know all this happens constantly in most mmos. In game merchandise and gold selling is here to stay, like it or not, so come to grips with it. I also don't agree with it, but I know it's gonna happen, either by companies like IGE or by big power gamers selling the crap on ebay. Just because this website sells them advertising space does in no way mean that this website agrees with their practices. It's all about money and supporting this free website you and I both enjoy for FREE. That simple.
I could go on and on attacking your ridiculous statements for an hour, but I have other things to do now. Maybe you as well, should get off the 14 sign-ons you have for this website, stop constantly trolling every forum thread this isn't about your favorite game Mourning, and go outside and breath some fresh air. Might do you good. You'll live through the experience, I promise. Now go face your day and stop your continual spread on nonsense, outright lies, and utter BS please. Enough is enough. And if you do insist on posting your BS on forums all day long yet again, please do so on your favorite games forums over at "Age of Mourning"... errr oh yeh - they are down again, that's right
*sigh*
- Zaxx
No sorry it isn't "BS". Thats the truth whether you like to believe it or not. Theres two sides to all stories.. everyone believes what they want. no one ever said the dev team changed. It said the management and investors/ownership changed hands.
"Nobody in their right mind would EVER purchase the rights "
Your pretty clueless. Horizons found new investors after publically going bankrupt and having really bad press about their company and who runs it. just shows its easy to find investors for an almost complete mmorpg..
"I could go on and on attacking your ridiculous statements for an hour"
the truth will set you free.
[quote]Originally posted by zaxtor99This whole post is nothing but complete crap. Due to all the mis-spelled words and the ignorance of how to quote another post, I would have to say "uhhh, hmmmm who could this possibly be?" I'm betting my money on "Strouse" with another of his many mmorpg log-in names.
How can you even compare Mourning to this website, to a game like DnL, or to anything for that matter and act like the way they handled business practices was better? This is complete nonsense. And you're right.. It isn't called Mourning anymore. It's now called "Age of Mourning". Oooooh, big difference, same game, same devs as before. Gotta be. Nobody in their right mind would EVER purchase the rights to that pile of crap coding after the huge negative image they made for themselves. And different people huh? I already see egomancer has posted on their new forums which they have already locked up from any new posts, lol. For you, for for them to say that it's being released this time under new people is just more of the consistant lies and BS they gave their fans for so many months before the game had it's utterly pathetic release last spring.
To add to this, you attack this site for allowing IGE to advertise here. So what dude?? Get real, smack yourself as hard as you friggin' can across your face and see the light, alright? First of all, all the games for which IGE sells in game goods must allow it, as it happens on ebay constantly. The games may have rules against it in their terms and conditions, but all these same games also have rules against swearing, griefing, etc etc. And we know all this happens constantly in most mmos. In game merchandise and gold selling is here to stay, like it or not, so come to grips with it. I also don't agree with it, but I know it's gonna happen, either by companies like IGE or by big power gamers selling the crap on ebay. Just because this website sells them advertising space does in no way mean that this website agrees with their practices. It's all about money and supporting this free website you and I both enjoy for FREE. That simple.
I could go on and on attacking your ridiculous statements for an hour, but I have other things to do now. Maybe you as well, should get off the 14 sign-ons you have for this website, stop constantly trolling every forum thread this isn't about your favorite game Mourning, and go outside and breath some fresh air. Might do you good. You'll live through the experience, I promise. Now go face your day and stop your continual spread on nonsense, outright lies, and utter BS please. Enough is enough. And if you do insist on posting your BS on forums all day long yet again, please do so on your favorite games forums over at "Age of Mourning"... errr oh yeh - they are down again, that's right
*sigh*
- Zaxx[/b][/quote]
Just as a little info on top of you post...
Strouse, Studiobaker, Jeanglass amazingly have the exact same opinion on every topic.
When confronted with this a while ago when Wish was their game of choice to spew forth their non constructive hatred, they quickly said they were siblings.
I know NO siblings that agree (even using the exact same phraseology) on everything including everything game related.
But they/he wasnt smart enough to have hidden their email address at the time. It was interesting to see that their registered email addresses were DaveCT43@hotmail.com, DaveCT44@hotmail.com,.....
When confronted with that, the posts/tatings were quickly removed.
Dave CT? Amazing that they would have used the same name of Dave, huh? Different siblings using the same first name?
And CT for the location of Connecticut. Dave Jasinski is from CT. Dave Jasinski has a history of making multiple accounts and berating anything and anyone that isnt pro Mourning related.
Fascinating coincidence.
Its a tell tale sign when you and your multiple accounts show up because 1) its Pro Mourning out the wazoo. Youre about the only person left of the earth who would defend it so staunchly, 2) You never have anything constructive to say, its all destructive. People who follow these games like and dislike different aspects of games and even go so far as to having suggesting on to improve. You never do. Ever. You point to what you see as faults and spew hatred.
Dave, stick to trying to make your game better, rather than trying to make you game look better by belittling other games.
Or is it no longer your game anymore? Is that why youre so pissed off?
only problem it had was whoever called the shots behind the scenes. Just like David Bowman and Horizons. Bad ownership decisions kills products just the same as bad coding could... whoever owned it either way was smart to sell it off..
Well well well.. MoCap. huh? That's sounds very innovative and very intrusting. If my memory serves me right Everquest 2 and actual actors come and do voice over for the game's npcs'. That was the first ting done like that in a mmorpg, and the DnL team is just trying to do the same.
Lets applaud what they are doing who know that could make our gameplay experience that much more enjoyable. I say go for it, that just what we need more people to push the envelope.
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People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.