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Starting DoaC and could use some advice
jikopia
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Hi, im about to start Doac for the first time. Ive been playing MMO's for a long time. since about OU first came out. Ive played EQ for 6 years and now WoW for since alpha. My question for Daoc is now i have kids and only have the time when i play to solo most of the time. So whats a good class for soloing? ive looked over it all in-game and cant really decide myself. I've went from a hardcore powergamer of 16hour to 20 hour days down to 4 hours a day. That gives you an idea of what i am looking for. I like casters and i like melee. and i like hybrids. Im just looking for that "solo" class for the casual player that i am now.
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Most classes in DAOC can solo. Classes to avoid because of how slow they solo would be assassin classes and bards.
The best soloer in the game would most likely be a vampiir, but you will need to have Catacombs in order for that to work.
Pet classes also work out well. Enchanters in Hib are a good choice. Mentalists if you spec to charm pets can be very nice and extrenely useful if you play on a server that has ToA.
Wardens start off slow but can become very solable after a few levels. Wardens will have buff, heal, and rez spells. Further you get this wonderful spell called Bubble. It absorbs one hit so that you do not take damage. You get a pulsing version of the spell so you end up avoiding a lot of damage. Battles will take longer because you have the lowest damage out put of any tanks, but it is a good solo class as well as wanted in groups.
Animists are awsome for soloing. However they can be a complicated class to get used to.
Forgot Necros, Wizzies and Sorcs.
However, do the 14 day trial first....you will soon learn that the classes are imbalanced anyway and Mythic doesnt give a crap about their customers and what their players want anywho. Good game to try, good game to leave alone in the long run.
Necros are by far the best solo class with out a bot. If you can get a bot and you are playing on Gaheris then Cleric/Summoning SM is the way to go. If you are playing a normal server and can bot you will want to go with Enchanter/Druid, SM/Healer or Shaman and Cabalist/Cleric for the best options in soloing harder mobs with the use of spells and a pet.
i've played this game off and on for a while never really got to 50 but you say you may have about 4 hrs a day that plentyof time but i wouldn't play on one of the TOA servers i would play on the servers marked classic more people there and the community is better for the lower levels and you could get a group and get several level(at the low end) in 4 hrs.
also you said you like melleing and casting thats what i like to do too so i chose thane they get really good DD spells and some styles(wich are like special attacks) and there good tanks you can solo fairly easy but there will be some downtime regainin endurance and power but thats after a couple mobs if you can plan it outright but if you wanna straight up solo go with a pet class granted there no melle but you can nuke with the best of them (enchanter for hib, Spiritmaster or Bonedancer(i would choose BD because you get more then one pet when you get high enough) for midgard, and cabalistor theurgist for alb) all are really fun but thane, IMO, is what it seems your looking for there the only tank class taht get self buffs, good ones too, and really powerful(not as good as norm spell casters) DD, AOE, PBAOE, and some nice instant spells really fun class to play too
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well, ive just come back to daoc, now i know im not in your shoes as far as being new goes, however you will find daoc isnt that hard to pick up and run with,
as your just starting out id suggest you began on a classic server, the only ones avalible at present are the usa ones, im wating for the uk ones to get plugged in before i start again. the classic ones wouold offer you a more level friendly environment and you wont have the extra hasstle of the horrible add on that is toa, however you may enjoy the extra content of weapons, spells, environments that gives.
classes.. well, ive only ever had characters in albion and midgard, however ive heard that chanters are great in hib. solo classes in mid would have to be the bone dancer as you can spawn your own private little army of dead things..and the thane isnt too bad either, spell casting and a tank to boot.
albion, as my peers above me have said.. the necro is the best hands down, ive never had one however ive knows my friends to have one to level 50 in a matter of.. for arguments sake, a week. to me thats quick. anyway hope it helps. oh and.. as a tank, paladins are good solo.. tho in all fairness not that much fun to play really past pvE,
im not trying to troll but, i did the same thing you did....i came from eq, played wow since open beta then quit to try daoc.
and let me tell you if you plan on soloing daoc will get really boring fast (at least for me)
i have no doubt that daoc's end game and rvr is very fun and rewarding but lvling up in task dungeons is really boring unless your in a group and i quit the game because of it.
and it wasn't just me either, i have a circle of rl friends that all play the same game and we all tried daoc and all quit because of the same thing.
that being said i now play eq2 and have a blast soloing and grouping but with no rvr....just thought i would share my thoughts on the subject...
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
Um you do realize that you can go to BattleGrounds at level 6 and basically RVR all the way to 50 if you so desire? The BattleGrounds (not REAL RVR) are full PVP areas between the three realms with a center keep to conquer. When in RVR you get XP for killing other players so it's actually possible to only leave the BG's to train and return and just RVR To your heart's content.
You won't reach 50 as fast that way but, then again, you'll be having a lot more fun than the folks that are grinding to reach it
Not to mention that doing it this way you will not only learn the tactics you'll need for 'real' RVR but you'll also be earning valuable Realm Points to spend on special abilities and powers that will be VERY useful in both PVE and PVP.
I logged into a 14 day trial for the first time since quitting the game 3 years ago. I am amazed at how much better the game is now than it was back then. I made it to level 6 in a couple hours and once I finished the intro quests and ran out of missions in Mularn (Midgard) I headed straight to the BattleGrounds and have only come out to train since. I'm now level 9 (almost 10) and will probably have to move on to the level 10-14 BG tonight once I level up.
If questing is your thing there are tons of them. If grinding is your thing you can do that too. If PVP is your thing you can do that as well. The BG's are just as much (if not more so) fun as normal RVR and you get XP for killing other players so you can PVP or PVE to get to 50
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Um you do realize that you can go to BattleGrounds at level 6 and basically RVR all the way to 50 if you so desire? The BattleGrounds (not REAL RVR) are full PVP areas between the three realms with a center keep to conquer. When in RVR you get XP for killing other players so it's actually possible to only leave the BG's to train and return and just RVR To your heart's content.
You won't reach 50 as fast that way but, then again, you'll be having a lot more fun than the folks that are grinding to reach it
Not to mention that doing it this way you will not only learn the tactics you'll need for 'real' RVR but you'll also be earning valuable Realm Points to spend on special abilities and powers that will be VERY useful in both PVE and PVP.
I logged into a 14 day trial for the first time since quitting the game 3 years ago. I am amazed at how much better the game is now than it was back then. I made it to level 6 in a couple hours and once I finished the intro quests and ran out of missions in Mularn (Midgard) I headed straight to the BattleGrounds and have only come out to train since. I'm now level 9 (almost 10) and will probably have to move on to the level 10-14 BG tonight once I level up.
If questing is your thing there are tons of them. If grinding is your thing you can do that too. If PVP is your thing you can do that as well. The BG's are just as much (if not more so) fun as normal RVR and you get XP for killing other players so you can PVP or PVE to get to 50
ya but you cant solo in battlegrounds and the op said he wanted to solo. if you group in daoc its not that bad bad no matter what you do but if you solo it gets boring witch was the point i was trying to make.
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
Um you do realize that you can go to BattleGrounds at level 6 and basically RVR all the way to 50 if you so desire? The BattleGrounds (not REAL RVR) are full PVP areas between the three realms with a center keep to conquer. When in RVR you get XP for killing other players so it's actually possible to only leave the BG's to train and return and just RVR To your heart's content.
You won't reach 50 as fast that way but, then again, you'll be having a lot more fun than the folks that are grinding to reach it
Not to mention that doing it this way you will not only learn the tactics you'll need for 'real' RVR but you'll also be earning valuable Realm Points to spend on special abilities and powers that will be VERY useful in both PVE and PVP.
I logged into a 14 day trial for the first time since quitting the game 3 years ago. I am amazed at how much better the game is now than it was back then. I made it to level 6 in a couple hours and once I finished the intro quests and ran out of missions in Mularn (Midgard) I headed straight to the BattleGrounds and have only come out to train since. I'm now level 9 (almost 10) and will probably have to move on to the level 10-14 BG tonight once I level up.
If questing is your thing there are tons of them. If grinding is your thing you can do that too. If PVP is your thing you can do that as well. The BG's are just as much (if not more so) fun as normal RVR and you get XP for killing other players so you can PVP or PVE to get to 50
ya but you cant solo in battlegrounds and the op said he wanted to solo. if you group in daoc its not that bad bad no matter what you do but if you solo it gets boring witch was the point i was trying to make.
I solo in the BG's sometimes. It's certainly not the BEST way to play but you CAN do it. Be prepared to die a lot though. DAOC is a WAR not random PVP. In PVE you can certainly solo as almost any class. And levelling is very easy now. I'm levelling about 5x faster than I did when it first came out. And no it's not from twinking... I'm on a completely new account on a completely different (classic) server. Starting over from complete scratch with a NON-Healer class.
Solo is perfectly do-able. It's not as EASY to solo as some other games but it's by no means hard.
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This is also true
I'm playing a Skald at the moment, however. So solo in the BG, while possible, is very very challenging. But the fact is that you *can* solo in the BG's if you really want to (why anyone would WANT to is beyond me though.)
Then again I don't get the whole "I want to solo in an MMORPG" mindset. The only time I ever really solo is if I can't find a group or I'm on at some bizarre time.
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ya the point i was making is soloing in daoc in my opinion is boring than most mmorpg's. grouping in the game is fine, but if you like to solo i wouldn't suggest it by any means.
and a choice few class's can kinda solo in bg's? that might be true but generally speaking you cant solo there from my experience.
like i said before im not trying to bash this game or anything but from experience....i tried the game and found it really boring soloing and in general leveling up. i have no doubt the end game is good but i just couldn't hack it after lvl 40 = /
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
With the changes to the XP grind that the Catacombs expansion made Soloing isn't bad at all anymore. A lot of classes can solo level quite effectively. I solo a lot due to my schedule and tendancy to play at off hours and my most recent toon I solo'd all the way from 1-50 (well, prolly 90% solo, 10% group) and I did it at a rate that kept up fairly well with guildies who were grouping primarily. Instanced Task Dungeons are great for solo XP since they scale to your level if solo.
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No offense, but you only made it to 40. This means you are not familiar with all of the classes and servers. I know many people who have soloed characters and enjoyed it. The fact you didn't says only one thing, that you didn't.
As for the BG it really depends on your server as to what BG have action and what BG doesn't. Further, the fact that not every class can solo in the BG says nothing bad about the game. It says that IF you want to solo in the BG, THEN you should play one of these characters. Lets see, Bondancers, Necros, Vampiirs, pet classes, assassins, and archers should all do well.
Anything thing to consider is that being with a group and being in a group. Other classes can solo well without being in a group, they just need to be with a group of people. For example a siege or siege defense. The main idea is that you need a group of people that so that you will not get run over. It does not mean you need to be in the group. That would open up even more classes to the list I have mentioned - in fact almost all of them - to being viable to solo in the BG.
LOL!!
you guys are fricking hilarious!! yes i only got to 40, was i giving a review on the game???no!
do i need to be max level and play the game multiple years to tell you that "I" was bored with it??
can you please stop being total fanboi's for a second and actually read what i am saying??
i am not saying you cant solo(pve), or that soloing isn't fast or easy...yes it is easy with catacombs but for me it was boring as hell. doing the same instance over and over (because that was the best xp)... i just couldn't hang with it i was giving my opinion to the op...my bad!
i am saying from a person exactly like the op that started daoc it was boring for me soloing in daoc with catacombs. it is my freaking opinion i don't need to be max level to know that a game makes me bored!
again...I AM NOT SAYING DAOC IS A BAD GAME AT ALL, I HAVE NOT DONE EVERYTHING OR SEEN EVERYTHING IN DAOC TO SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT! I JUST GOT BORED WITH IT AND MOVED ON!
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
mythic only runs the american servers.
the english, french, german, spanish and italian servers are run by GOA which is a completly different company.
so yes, its because you brought the expansion in europe
There is so much out there to check out. Yeah the Task dungeons get you levling fast but there are allot of other cool dugeons and areas of the game to check out. If you arent in a hurry to get to lvl 50 and want to see some cool areas then theres plenty of stuff to check out. Plus theres now two extra insta dugeons in each low level dungon. I doubt anyone on this board has even attpemted to check out all the places Its just too big.
I also dont know what Julian has agaist a bard I think this is his Bard bashing post 49809875. Bards are Ok to play and easy to find a group. I notice he definatly sees most things with the green sunglasses on. Hes a true hib to the end. Bards are also much easier to solo than a healer. There are three realms and if you want to try playing all three you'll get the full game experince it just takes a long time if you arent a power gamer.
I dont know why everyone is in such a hurry. "I need to get to 50 rigth away I need to get my arts, I need to get to ML10, I need to get to RR8. This game is boring..." If you want to take your time the game is really big. When you get bored of one aspect instead of grinding yourself to death why not check out another aspect?
I just rolled an animist for solo loot farming. Its pretty good for making money but kinda of boring becuase you are in the same place while farming. Enchanters are pretty cool you get a pet. Sorc is very good for soloing you get a pet and can usually solo orang con mobs. Bonedance is also very cool for soloing get a few pets and can solo to OJ mobs. You can solo tanks but they are better in groups. Vamps are OK for soloing they can handle allot of lower con mobs and need to keep fighting. But they cant solo high con mobs like a sorc or bonedance would be able to. It really depends on your play style. Thats why I reccomend rolling allot of toons and seem which ones you like best .. I mean why not. (unless your in a hurry to get the lvl 50 arrg)
Night shade Shadblade and infl. These are the hardcore rvr toons and they are a blast to play but you almost need another toon to farm loot for them because thery are very gear dependend. Scouts rangera nd hunter are kinda like that with a bow they can be real fun to play to.
Houses are cool but they are expensive to get at first. You ant to have a house 1 plat (4 hours of farming on a lvl 50 toon) Then you want to have a vault onther plat a teleporter and a consigment merchant another plat... horses are also expensive but not too much for the regular. plus if you like me you have to buy them on 3-4 realms bleh. But after you buy them then they only cost 20 gold a week which only costs about 15 mintues of farming.
thats a false statement...
while i don't play daoc anymore and i agree somewhat, they made servers without the trials of atlantis expansion. you know why they did that? because the players hated that expansion.
how many companies do you think would create new servers like this? not many. that was a good move on mythic's part.
I'm not necessarily trying to flame this person, but as someone who's played this game for almost 4 years now and knows what it was like in the beginning (my first level 50 took 8 months to get there, primarily soloing, now I could do it in a month of casual play if I wanted to), I can't help but say that if you can't hack leveling in DAoC today where levels are practically given to you just for logging on (and with the free level system, that's literally true at least once a week)....well, you'd probably better stick with first-person shooters and avoid MMORPGs altogether. Leveling, be it solo or otherwise, is so easy these days compared to the early days of the game that I pretty much feel like I've cheated when one of my characters gets one. It's actually harder to NOT level than to do so.
There's SO much to do in DAoC that even being on 7 days a week for at least a couple hours each day and playing almost exclusively on one server, I just don't have enough time to accomplish all the goals I'd like to....and some of these include leveling alternate characters. If your entire time was spent in task dungeons just trying to grind out levels, as I'm afraid most new people who come to DAoC do these days, you're missing out on so much....
Kunou, since you post and read here, lemme say, I think you guys are finally realizing (judging by the latest Pendragon patch notes) that you shot yourself in the foot by trying to cater to the hardcore gamers...those are the ones who are going to have 6 accounts, whine about everything you do, and move to another game as soon as they get bored. ToA didn't chase off that crowd as much as it did the casual gamers who just don't have the time to commit to camping encounters 16 hours a day for a week straight to get a piece of gear that will then take them another 40 hours of game time to get to its full potential. This upcoming patch looks like it's finally going to introduce a much-needed dose of sanity into ToA, and I sincerely hope it brings back a lot of people.
Anyway, to return to the main point...as I said before, if you can't handle leveling in DAoC today, I just really don't know what sorta MMORPG you possibly COULD handle. Maybe one where one mob killed = 1 level and level 10 is the max *shrug*.
Oh, and yes, assassin and archer classes solo VERY well in the battlegrounds, as do a number of other classes in one-on-one fights. However, grouping is certainly more effective and more fun for that matter, especially when you have a group of people who have a clue about how to play their characters and what their role in a group is
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no actually i will stick with games that dont make me bored, im done trying to get you people to understand what i was trying to say. if you think it has anything to do with the game being easy read my post again my friend.
i cant handle daoc because it is a dull and boring game soloing and just leveling up all together for me, maybe if i would have started the game when it first came out it might have been different but i didn't.
i have played and still love to play challenging games like everquest and have played mmorpg's a long time (alot longer than 4 years) so like i said go back and read my post again before you decide to flame me.
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....