Originally posted by Ashkent stop with these stupid polls!! this is like the 5th poll since yesterday! if you're not going to list all the mmorpgs, then there is no point in making it!!!
I'd have to go with L2. After you grind like crazy for months the end-game politics are really fun. Don't get me wrong, the game is really bland, but it promotes strong clan action and competition in the end-game. Never played Ryzom, but I hear it's one of the best.
Originally posted by Ashkent stop with these stupid polls!! this is like the 5th poll since yesterday! if you're not going to list all the mmorpgs, then there is no point in making it!!!
I gotta be honest and go with Lineage 2 once you get to a high lvl PKING is the best! You kill and kill all day and annoy people haha! So good poll my friend!
Originally posted by enixryan I gotta be honest and go with Lineage 2 once you get to a high lvl PKING is the best! You kill and kill all day and annoy people haha! So good poll my friend!
And that, my friends, is the best proof of why PvP is ridiculous...
(Now that I've stopped my anti-EVE crusade...I think I'm going to crusade against PvP...ah...finally a purpose in life...hehe )
EDIT: OK...I better qualify that...cause I'm not actually against all types of PvP, just the unstructured meaningless non-storyline garbage-PvP that leads to actions like the poster above mentioned. And especially if it includes loss of items and XP to the non-initiating player.
PvP isn't ridiculous some people have a laugh with it even the people that die do so shut up will ya some people like it some people do! It's what peoples genre is!
Originally posted by enixryan PvP isn't ridiculous some people have a laugh with it even the people that die do so shut up will ya some people like it some people do! It's what peoples genre is!
So you like to get your "laughs" from ruining other people's day? Cause that's basically what you said in your last post...
Oh...and the "so shut up will ya" argument...brilliant! I think I'll use that next time I'm in a debate.
Originally posted by enixryan I gotta be honest and go with Lineage 2 once you get to a high lvl PKING is the best! You kill and kill all day and annoy people haha! So good poll my friend!
And that, my friends, is the best proof of why PvP is ridiculous...
(Now that I've stopped my anti-EVE crusade...I think I'm going to crusade against PvP...ah...finally a purpose in life...hehe )
EDIT: OK...I better qualify that...cause I'm not actually against all types of PvP, just the unstructured meaningless non-storyline garbage-PvP that leads to actions like the poster above mentioned. And especially if it includes loss of items and XP to the non-initiating player.
Why is PvP ridiculous again? It's not like anyone is forcing people to pay for PvP games. Oh and I've seen your anti-eve "crusade". Consisted mostly of second hand rumours and hearsay and you qualifying yourself as an expert after having played the game for a couple of weeks. And what exactly is storyline PvP? Eve has a very thin storyline. The real story in eve is player created, player run and player decided. Ofcourse there are a few nubs who hang around in low sec systems griefing noobs, but thats not PvP. Theres no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap.
Originally posted by enixryan PvP doesn't ruin peoples days!! If it pissed people off that much they wouldn't even invent PvP. So stop complaining!
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Don't even start believing that. You could argue that people whose day gets ruined because they got pk'ed are playing the wrong games, but then again if PvP-battles and PK were properly advertised those people wouldn't even be there in the first place. When the PvP-fight isn't consensual in the whole game you are bound to get people that get pissed because of little idiots that think there's nothing more fun then to grief a noob. Open your eyes and step into the real world. Even if the ruined day may be an extreme reaction, it's no more extreme then the nobody minds to get pk'ed you are assuming.
Originally posted by Darkentwo Why is PvP ridiculous again? It's not like anyone is forcing people to pay for PvP games. Oh and I've seen your anti-eve "crusade". Consisted mostly of second hand rumours and hearsay and you qualifying yourself as an expert after having played the game for a couple of weeks. And what exactly is storyline PvP? Eve has a very thin storyline. The real story in eve is player created, player run and player decided. Ofcourse there are a few nubs who hang around in low sec systems griefing noobs, but thats not PvP. Theres no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap.
Can we leave the EVE argument out of ONE thread...just one!! Please!!
If all pay2play MMORPGs end up being PvP (or even the great majority...and this seems to be the way they're heading...unfortunately) and I want to play a MMORPG...then effectively I AM being forced to pay for it...correct???
RPG has to have a storyline! That's what RPG is! You can't RP into a void...if you want to play a PvP MMO...you should make a new genre MMOPVP (not you particularly...but you know what I mean...oh? there is one already...yes that's right...it's called online FPS!)
PvP is ridiculous in an MMORPG because people of a higher level can (and do in a lot of cases) prey upon those of a lower level...it's annoying...and to quote you "there's no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap". I even question whether there's much skill involved in two cap-level players going at it in an MMORPG either, as it usually just comes down to gear...if you want PvP AND skill then it's probably better to try a different genre. (And, as I hinted at above, NO I don't want to hear what EVE's PvP is like, and why it's better...cause if there's skills/levels and different gear/ships then that's STILL what its PvP comes down to).
Originally posted by Darkentwo Why is PvP ridiculous again? It's not like anyone is forcing people to pay for PvP games. Oh and I've seen your anti-eve "crusade". Consisted mostly of second hand rumours and hearsay and you qualifying yourself as an expert after having played the game for a couple of weeks. And what exactly is storyline PvP? Eve has a very thin storyline. The real story in eve is player created, player run and player decided. Ofcourse there are a few nubs who hang around in low sec systems griefing noobs, but thats not PvP. Theres no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap.
Can we leave the EVE argument out of ONE thread...just one!! Please!!
If all pay2play MMORPGs end up being PvP (or even the great majority...and this seems to be the way they're heading...unfortunately) and I want to play a MMORPG...then effectively I AM being forced to pay for it...correct???
RPG has to have a storyline! That's what RPG is! You can't RP into a void...if you want to play a PvP MMO...you should make a new genre MMOPVP (not you particularly...but you know what I mean...oh? there is one already...yes that's right...it's called online FPS!)
PvP is ridiculous in an MMORPG because people of a higher level can (and do in a lot of cases) prey upon those of a lower level...it's annoying...and to quote you "there's no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap". I even question whether there's much skill involved in two cap-level players going at it in an MMORPG either, as it usually just comes down to gear...if you want PvP AND skill then it's probably better to try a different genre. (And, as I hinted at above, NO I don't want to hear what EVE's PvP is like, and why it's better...cause if there's skills/levels and different gear/ships then that's STILL what its PvP comes down to).
As far as I've seen, almost all the MMOs out there only have Consensual or no PvP at all. I dont know where you get the idea that they are all heading the PvP route. RPG as in "Role Playing Game"? I dont see why you can't role play unless it's forcefed to you by the dev team. And before you jump on your "MMORPG" definition guidebook, I'll let you know that eve and some other games I know, don't claim to be MMORPGs, they claim to be MMOGs.
You've stated twice in your thread that you dont want to discuss eve, yet in your last sentence you needed to make a statement about eve thats not just false, but also proves that you have no idea what eve is about or how the gameplay mechanics work. Oh and btw, we roleplay quite well in Eve without having the GMs and devs babysit us or going around begging for them to make more events for us to participate in.
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stop with these stupid polls!! this is like the 5th poll since yesterday!
if you're not going to list all the mmorpgs, then there is no point in making it!!!
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I'm more than happy to vote if you will define "fun".
Some players find fun in crafting, some in exploring. Yet a comited PK griefer would rather contract AIDS than do either.
You also need to add DAoC to that list or I'm allways going to be awkward
I couldnt agree more...in fact:
The first poll that included SoR
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I gotta be honest and go with Lineage 2 once you get to a high lvl PKING is the best! You kill and kill all day and annoy people haha! So good poll my friend!
And that, my friends, is the best proof of why PvP is ridiculous...
(Now that I've stopped my anti-EVE crusade...I think I'm going to crusade against PvP...ah...finally a purpose in life...hehe )
EDIT: OK...I better qualify that...cause I'm not actually against all types of PvP, just the unstructured meaningless non-storyline garbage-PvP that leads to actions like the poster above mentioned. And especially if it includes loss of items and XP to the non-initiating player.
Lineage 2 would be the least fun game IMO. It's the game that opened the gateway to all the l2 clones out there.
So you like to get your "laughs" from ruining other people's day? Cause that's basically what you said in your last post...
Oh...and the "so shut up will ya" argument...brilliant! I think I'll use that next time I'm in a debate.
PvP doesn't ruin peoples days!! If it pissed people off that much they wouldn't even invent PvP.
So stop complaining!
Currently Play- Lineage I Lineage ][ ROSE Online WoW America's Army
Final Fantasy XI Guild Wars UO .hack//the world
And that, my friends, is the best proof of why PvP is ridiculous...
(Now that I've stopped my anti-EVE crusade...I think I'm going to crusade against PvP...ah...finally a purpose in life...hehe )
EDIT: OK...I better qualify that...cause I'm not actually against all types of PvP, just the unstructured meaningless non-storyline garbage-PvP that leads to actions like the poster above mentioned. And especially if it includes loss of items and XP to the non-initiating player.
Why is PvP ridiculous again? It's not like anyone is forcing people to pay for PvP games. Oh and I've seen your anti-eve "crusade". Consisted mostly of second hand rumours and hearsay and you qualifying yourself as an expert after having played the game for a couple of weeks. And what exactly is storyline PvP? Eve has a very thin storyline. The real story in eve is player created, player run and player decided. Ofcourse there are a few nubs who hang around in low sec systems griefing noobs, but thats not PvP. Theres no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap.
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Can we leave the EVE argument out of ONE thread...just one!! Please!!
If all pay2play MMORPGs end up being PvP (or even the great majority...and this seems to be the way they're heading...unfortunately) and I want to play a MMORPG...then effectively I AM being forced to pay for it...correct???
RPG has to have a storyline! That's what RPG is! You can't RP into a void...if you want to play a PvP MMO...you should make a new genre MMOPVP (not you particularly...but you know what I mean...oh? there is one already...yes that's right...it's called online FPS!)
PvP is ridiculous in an MMORPG because people of a higher level can (and do in a lot of cases) prey upon those of a lower level...it's annoying...and to quote you "there's no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap". I even question whether there's much skill involved in two cap-level players going at it in an MMORPG either, as it usually just comes down to gear...if you want PvP AND skill then it's probably better to try a different genre. (And, as I hinted at above, NO I don't want to hear what EVE's PvP is like, and why it's better...cause if there's skills/levels and different gear/ships then that's STILL what its PvP comes down to).
Can we leave the EVE argument out of ONE thread...just one!! Please!!
If all pay2play MMORPGs end up being PvP (or even the great majority...and this seems to be the way they're heading...unfortunately) and I want to play a MMORPG...then effectively I AM being forced to pay for it...correct???
RPG has to have a storyline! That's what RPG is! You can't RP into a void...if you want to play a PvP MMO...you should make a new genre MMOPVP (not you particularly...but you know what I mean...oh? there is one already...yes that's right...it's called online FPS!)
PvP is ridiculous in an MMORPG because people of a higher level can (and do in a lot of cases) prey upon those of a lower level...it's annoying...and to quote you "there's no skill or risk involved in that kinda crap". I even question whether there's much skill involved in two cap-level players going at it in an MMORPG either, as it usually just comes down to gear...if you want PvP AND skill then it's probably better to try a different genre. (And, as I hinted at above, NO I don't want to hear what EVE's PvP is like, and why it's better...cause if there's skills/levels and different gear/ships then that's STILL what its PvP comes down to).
As far as I've seen, almost all the MMOs out there only have Consensual or no PvP at all. I dont know where you get the idea that they are all heading the PvP route. RPG as in "Role Playing Game"? I dont see why you can't role play unless it's forcefed to you by the dev team. And before you jump on your "MMORPG" definition guidebook, I'll let you know that eve and some other games I know, don't claim to be MMORPGs, they claim to be MMOGs.
You've stated twice in your thread that you dont want to discuss eve, yet in your last sentence you needed to make a statement about eve thats not just false, but also proves that you have no idea what eve is about or how the gameplay mechanics work. Oh and btw, we roleplay quite well in Eve without having the GMs and devs babysit us or going around begging for them to make more events for us to participate in.