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Question for the H8ers
Newbert
Member Posts: 33
You know who you are......
Please just answer me this one question: If the game sucks as much as you say it does, why are they allowing people to try it for free??
I don't get it? It really doesn't make sense. Why not just release the game now while it's at its height of popularity. Why allow people to play free for 5 months and experience all the suckiness for themselves? The game is so bad that no one is going to, after trying it out for free, turn around and pay money for it, right??
Can someone give me a legit reason as to why a company would do something like this if they weren't confident in their product??
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Umm I was just over at the DNL official site and saw no link to a free trial, if there is one please provide a link. I know there was supposed to be a free trial in November, and a stress test also if I am not mistaken, bet they have been delayed. I think they are supposed to have a free trial next month also, or a paid trial depending on how you want to look at it, but I will believe it when I see it.
Why did they require blind leaps of faith for the pre order, they selling Bibles or a game here. If they had any pride whatsoever they would have started SoG then put keys on sale. Wait till the 8th and if the game is solid then come on back and tell me I told ya so, but right now they are in a frigging cornor and damned if they do and damned if they don't it looks like and I am loving it.
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I'm still waiting for an answer.
Anyone else wanna give it a shot?
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December 8th, there is 10k free accounts being given away.
December 8th, there is 10k free accounts being given away.
Oh you mean the one they announced last month for this month then delayed to next month this month and will delay again next month to the following month ?
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ya thats the one, whats your point
Shhh guys stop feeding the poorr Jackdog. The twonk is here 24/7 attacking anything and everything about DnL. The best thing to do is ignore him or tell his owner to get help
I'm not a hater (just an eternal skeptic), but I'll try to answer this question.
In one word, the answer is 'Wish'. Do you remember that game? Probably not because it was cancelled a week into it's first public open beta. And let me add it was a very, very bad game. Now why do I say first open beta? Because they decided to have an open beta phase early in their development cycle (Phase 2 beta IIRC). I'm not sure if they pulled the plug due to the negative response or if they just realized it wasn't feasible and it coincided with the open beta, but either way the game was canned and sold to another company to make another paltry game called Irth Online.
Basically, what I'm trying to say in a long-winded way is maybe the developers of DnL are insane. Or maybe they're using the open beta to swindle one or two more pre-order sales before they collapse financially. Or maybe they figure the only people who are still interested in the game have already pre-ordered so the extra 10,000 spots are just so fanbois can make threads like this one to defend NP3. Or maybe the game really is that good and the next, big step in MMOs.
The simple fact is unless you've played the game, or can see the future of how this game looks post-release or can communicate telepathically with the devs, there's no real way to know how it's going to turn out. Personally, I stick to my belief that if something sounds too good to be feasible, then it probably is.
I cant wait for the day when people log into DnL, find out that most things are broken/not in the game yet, and start bitching that they spent $60 on this. These are the same people who right now are saying "$60 is nothing, get a job you basturds." Then the usual bickering over whether this is a beta stage of the game (SoG), how they paid to get into a beta, etc.
If they delay SoG they will have some mad people out there. Some people are fanatical about these things. Me, I think I'll spend $60 on something else. Maybe fill my gas tank. Or an 1/8 of the Kush.
1/8 of Kush it is
You don't get to try DnL for free. You get to try SoG for free.
Because there is no game to play now.
And they said you weren't smart!!! Lies! You are a genius and didn't even know it.
Indeed. Why have a pre-order...ahem! ...pre-pay party for DnL prior to the release of SoG? If it's so great, why not have a pre-pay party AFTER the SoG release? I'll leave you to ponder that question.
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rofl i clicked that link, too funny
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
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You don't get to try DnL for free. You get to try SoG for free.
Right, and no one will be able to draw conclusions about the quality of DnL after playing SoG for 5 months . They are 2 completely different games.......gotcha.
/giggle
I'm still waiting for an answer???
Right, and no one will be able to draw conclusions about the quality of DnL after playing SoG for 5 months . They are 2 completely different games.......gotcha.
/giggle
I'm still waiting for an answer???
Answer to what? Why they would let people try it for free even though it's not really DnL but SoG that they're trying for free? Oh dear... now I've even confused myself.
Maybe they don't know it's crap? Those devs at Mourning thought they had a really great game, didn't they? Now I'm not saying DnL IS crap... I wouldn't know... I'm still interested in giving it a go. I'm just trying to help you find an answer. I didn't know I had pneumonia once but I did.
Hope that helped... it didn't do a thing for me.
Right, and no one will be able to draw conclusions about the quality of DnL after playing SoG for 5 months . They are 2 completely different games.......gotcha.
/giggle
I'm still waiting for an answer???
Maybe they don't know it's crap? Those devs at Mourning thought they had a really great game, didn't they? I'm still interested in giving it a go. I'm just trying to help you find an answer. I didn't know I had pneumonia once but I did.
Ok so you're saying the devs are delusional and don't realize their game sucks??
That would be a good reason...........if it weren't completely retarded. Remember, I said a *legit* answer. Insane developers doesn't fit my criteria for a legitimate answer.
I wish you would have died from your pneumonia. Go away.
Wow... aren't you a nasty piece of work. I thought Philly was the City of Brotherly Love... I guess you just don't like girls, eh?
Oh they know their game sucks. Thats why they keep delaying it, thats why they had to get pre orders before anyone sees it. thats why they are trying to convince you that once you see it you cannot get a refund, although only a idiot would not challenge that one with this credit card company. As many of you are quick to point out you bought DnL not SoG. Yeah they know it sucks and did up everything except put up a big red sign saying it did, but you suckers still pre ordered.
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Your mind is like a parachute, it's only useful when it's open.
Don't forget, you can use the block function on trolls.
SWG obviously thought their game was fun enough, but they were proven wrong. Shadowbane thought their game was stable enough, and they were wrong, too. I never said that DnL wasn't a good game, I was just offering up the type of misconception that other developers have fallen under. Maybe if I hadn't tried to be humourous that nasty bloke wouldn't have wished me dead.
I've not beta tested DnL and I have never seen it played. I come from a place of absolutely zero knowledge. I'd be thrilled if DnL was a wonderful game and, in that case, I would give them my money. I'm rooting for them... Go, DnL, Go! But sometimes, strangely, even those who have created a game obviously see it in a different way than others.
Originally posted by Newbert
Please just answer me this one question: If the game sucks as much as you say it does, why are they allowing people to try it for free??
They are releasing a game, SoG, which has absolutely no features. No professions, no griefer controls, no crafting and so on. The fanboys will deny that dnl is the worst game ever released rather they will say SoG is not DnL and wait for the miracle build like the Horizons fanboys waited desperately for throughout HZ beta.
DnL's one and only great feature according to the beta leakers is its world. It is supposed to be stunning, huge seamless, and beautiful. The one feature that SoG has is DnL's world although a smaller version of it. Releasing SoG free to 10k people (financed by 8,881 suckers) allows them to not only showcase the one postive aspect of the game but they get to do so while saying hey this is not DnL rather this is DnL without any of the great features. Not because we cannot show it to you but because this is a 1000 years in the past. By playing SoG you get the best part of DnL but if you want a playable game to go along with this world you just need to buy the game at release and your dreams will be answered.
What other choice did NP3 have coming into November. They have stalled now for 4 or 5 years. Beta has been ongoing for 2 to 3 years. They for some reason refuse to release any information regarding the mechanics of the game except vague theories. They couldn't drop the NDA as word would get out that the game was a stinker, they could not allow us into DnL beta as we would see what a farce it is and they could not just keep on stalling forever so hence we get this brilliant SoG plan. They get $500k from 8,881 suckers, release a generic game with no features, appear to be the good guy letting people play for free and many if not most of the suckers will keep hanging on for release where they will get another payday regardless of how bad DnL truly is. A perfect plan to keep the fanboys drooling, waiting and happy while fleecing a few of them of some unwanted cash and keeping their dream alive of a greater payday at release.
If DnL was truly good their beta testers would be their best advertisement. It would make sense to drop the NDA and let the testers talk. It would also make sense to let the community test the real game with all the features that are in and let word of mouth hype the game. Rather all we are getting is another round of hide the ball along with a minor fleecing of 8,881 suckers. If they truly had something good they would show it to us not some generic featureless game. The real question is not whether DnL is good or bad but rather simply how bad is DnL. SoG will probably not answer that question for us but it should confirm that our worst fears are correct.
Good post, Zippy, and should give people something to think about. I don't know what the status of DnL is, or how good or bad it might be, but I do think that this SoG thingy is just another delay... with pretty wrapping paper and a big ribbon. I have to wonder how many people will become disenchanted with this game if they push back the release date in April. It's already been such a long time! However, I hope they make it by then, with a decent game in tow.
Listen to this man, he's pre-med. (Animal House joke)
Agreed. On top of that, the only beta testers (who have broke the NDA) I've heard from have said it's not worth it. Doesn't leave me with much hope.
But, let's spectulate that they DO have an awesome product waiting. A) why hide all of it?
why keep it hidden from respected gaming review sites, not just the fans that frequent the site? C) why charge a pre-payment BEFORE allowing folks to test out the game on Dec. 8?
I don't know the answers to those questions, and that's precisely what stopped me from processing that 59.99 on Nov. 24th.
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A) Maybe they have not decided on many key features just yet and therefore cannot give out alot of information because if they did it may be wrong when the game is actually released.
C) This was a special chance for people to take a little risk who have faith in the game. This special offer gave special advantages to the people who paid, with no risk, comes no reward. But also, they ARE letting people play the game before buying it, for 6 months!! The pioneer offer was just a bonus to the dedicated fans of the game, everyone else who did not get one can still try it before they buy, which I think is a very good sign.
That logic does not wash. At the moment I am in a beta, not DnL but part of the NDA was I cannot divulge that I am in the beta. Anyway the game is pretty bug free runs like a champ on my box but it is about as much fun as watching paint dry. I simply do not visit the official forums here or on the games main site. Some of us do honor our NDAs, not because of legal repercussions, but simply because of honor. If I had been part of DnLs beta I would have never written a single post about it, other than on the beta boards. Too bad some other people including game developers do not have any idea of what truth and honor means.
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