try a new toon? some of us have been here 2 years .. wtf try a new toon. that right there is saying uh its broken and not worth it ,is the only way to play at all to start over?
bad bad planning.
thats reason enough for anyone who had spent any time in game developing a character to be against it.
I guess the ones who never knew about the .4% per 1% exp +1 forumals in crafting armor or sat there with a calculator crafting in their head with various resources and being dead on with the end product , the ones who never knew that PVP was awesome because it was an end game skill , yes it was a skill - if you had it , you could rock , if you didnt you died alot and hoped for something like the nge to make it all better.
hard to turn away from something you built for 2 years,something you knew in and out because hey guys the 1st 30 levels are awesome!!!! forget you been paying for 2 years on multipile accounts - forget all that great stuff you collected , you made , you spend hours, days, weeks putting together. ... forget it all . The noobstation rocks ... Lets not worry all of our friends left , that severs are so underpopulated that the damn mobs wont even spawn, that at 30 the game stops completely,its all good because hey the noob station rocks ... dont worry about not being a commando since its broken with no ETA on fixes .. be a medic since its the new FOTM alpha just like everyone else... and remember all that other stuff doesnt matter because hey the 1st 30 levels are awesome.
pitiful.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Ok Gorair lol I think we get it. You feel hurt, slighted and affronted. It's gone too far and it isn't coming back. You won't ever play another sony game again. I know lol so find a new game and come back and tell me about it and maybe I'll try it too.
not hurt , just really surprised with the direction it took. If my company did this i would find myself unemployed , my own board would toss me out on my arse using in house security.
so far in my spare time , i have an almost 20 page proof Im willing to send to SOE for compensation ; including a working aimbot , 2 lag generators , and multiple pages of exploits built into the game. The exact directions to duplicate certain items in the current system and how to trigger bugs that can potentially crash the servers if done on a wide scale ( we estimate , but dont know as we havent a clue to sonys actual space given to the game, think it would take only 16 -20 people to crash servers reliably). Things me and several other people figured out within hours of playing the game. not days , now what happens when people who feel no obligation to the game because they are a "hey i want to be uber or have one of everything" type of player, stumbles on these things and they become the common items required to even walk from the starport to the bazaar? None of these things we can do should be in a marketproduct,. Everything has problems and bugs on relasse but these were gaping wide holes left in there.
This is a piss poor product by any standards, and saying it isnt is a plain lie. It may be fun for a small minority ( using the broken clock is right twice a day theory) , but its still a developmental level piece of software, with no reason to be in the active marketplace.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Originally posted by Gorair not hurt , just really surprised with the direction it took. If my company did this i would find myself unemployed , my own board would toss me out on my arse using in house security. so far in my spare time , i have an almost 20 page proof Im willing to send to SOE for compensation ; including a working aimbot , 2 lag generators , and multiple pages of exploits built into the game. The exact directions to duplicate certain items in the current system and how to trigger bugs that can potentially crash the servers if done on a wide scale ( we estimate , but dont know as we havent a clue to sonys actual space given to the game, think it would take only 16 -20 people to crash servers reliably). Things me and several other people figured out within hours of playing the game. not days , now what happens when people who feel no obligation to the game because they are a "hey i want to be uber or have one of everything" type of player, stumbles on these things and they become the common items required to even walk from the starport to the bazaar? None of these things we can do should be in a marketproduct,. Everything has problems and bugs on relasse but these were gaping wide holes left in there. This is a piss poor product by any standards, and saying it isnt is a plain lie. It may be fun for a small minority ( using the broken clock is right twice a day theory) , but its still a developmental level piece of software, with no reason to be in the active marketplace.
Well I seem to love it and just can't tear myself away from it, even to play the almighty EQ2 and amazing City of Villains. It's just freakin' fun now, remember fun?
whats fun about accomplishing any quest ( if the text works and you dont get the genertic chat error with no text ) for 1 xp. Almost every quest either hits the no text error ( they havent coded it in yet for new system) or only awards 1 xp. unless they fix wookie world it gives zero xp and rewards are nulls, because they dont exist yet except in some developers imagination.
whats fun about being able to fight just as good as a lev 80 medic with my starter pistol wear ing the aboslute worse armor in teh game as a guy who is level 80 with a 5 proton carbine and wearing 6.7k armor? there is no reason to quest outside of xp the equipment in the game matters for absolutely nothing its a simple check do you have it yes no. I mean come on even in doom the weapons vary some.
whats fun about being exactly the same to everything as the guy standing next to me.
race - no difference at all except how you look.
sex - what bugs affect you with clothing thats it.
class - only specials differ in name- they scale exactly and use same damage table except for the class defining skill.
weapon - noob pistol give to you by han just as good as anythnig you can possibly find anywhere else so why bother ?
armor - again armor made by the most novice AS with the worst resources in existance work just as good as master quality with 300cpu resources.
Killing stuff killing a mob your level grants you 200-500 xp at level 70 nice until you factor in how many 200-500 xp kills = millions xp needed to make 80.
If you already did the ToOW quests - wether they give xp or not - your screwed most are one time only. no reason to ever go back once you been there. same with RotW excpt RoTW is totally destroyed as far as xp , spawns, rewards , actual text once you get 3-4 steps into quests.
fun - mobs still spawn inside buildings, retreat and heal instantly, or just do not exist ,ending your rise pre 30 if your going quest route . ( i think AA is wanting to change servers b/c this is what happened to him but he cant even admit there is a single problem. he personally has never seen a bug andhe says not one of his freinds left his guild or game and his server is packed with people , yet is willing to leave it all to move servers .. wonder why . i would never leave a good group of people even if the game was borked.) Sucks because the CSR's if they respond at all say we cant help you with that as NGE is not supported by csr staff yet, best part that toon is forever unable to contine the main story line quests if you dronp it to do another line so later when they DO fix it your toon must be re-rolled to continue anyway ( sucks eh?).
fun - combat , its so exploitable its sad. RE4 combat engine is not very good for a game mixing melee and ranged. One will always dominate, it is impossible to balance the issues in a RPG normally , but in current system they will never even get close.
fun - loot , yeah woo hoo i got 4 - eyes ,a lung and, a jedi robe. oo the robe cant be traded. helps me a ton being an officer/medic/bh/ etc...
fun - crafting - why? as stated and tested and proven the noob pistol and the worst armor in existance is = to the best gun and armor you can even imagine. nothing decays , so i buy armor from you once , maybe that is unless i get a drop that yes has lower resist ( dont matter thats a useless number not used in current engine) but has stat increases. Again why would i ever need anything a trader makes? vehicles (free) houses ( free) armor (drops beat crafted) weapons ( drops beat crafted). tailor? dont make me laugh it just think about how long it will take to find hides 'since thats now a random drop based on your level, to run a factory for anything.
chef - um everything useful requires a component from a BE - i dare you to find a BE in game.
still looking for something fun - everyone i knew on bria AND ahazi are gone. 3 entire guilds that were about 70 real people representing about 300 accounts. no community to play with. yeah thats fun.
seeing 20 noobs saying thank god this is only a trial and they did not have to buy anythnig to see how bad this game is, yeah those guys are gonna stay.
fun no random hunting - the server populations ( how many people actually logged in to the game) determine the random spawns on several planets . There are so few people playing that the event trigger cant even be hit ( last they ever posted about it was 200 people for max event trigger, remember when they used to post actual numbers, but they had to lower it after the CU for the initial player loss, not sure if they turned it back up) so on some servers there are less than 200 people online total and dont trigger random mobs.
fun space - already been there ive done just about all of it , mastered 4 of the 6 pilot lines. no replay value. But i will say if you have never done this part its probably the 2nd best aspect to SWG.
anyway fun is subjective. I find things like, good people , sense of accomplishment , thought provotking game play issues (old crafting), fast paced stable combat engines are fun (hope swg gets one soon), risks having penalty is a controll to give the sense of danger. come on even in pac -man when you lost a life you freaking hollared about it. In SWG death is a way to ghetto teleport across a planet ( or back to tat really fast from anywhere).
you say you're having a blast, doing what? suppsoedly none of your firends left and you have not once seen a bug ( i dont get you here usually your exactly opposite of a red name sayting yes we know this is an issue) , and admit the only way to play is completely give up your previous play time /accomplishments/ badges (some that are gone foever ) to enjoy. You say yeah you have to start over to have fun because your other toon couldnt advance,but then go on to say you dont beleive the over 30 content is gone, so which is it ?
anyway keep haing fun and most importantly keep paying to beta test the next version of SWG. we guys who will play the next one when it comes out really apprieciate it .
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
whats fun about accomplishing any quest ( if the text works and you dont get the genertic chat error with no text ) for 1 xp. Almost every quest either hits the no text error ( they havent coded it in yet for new system) or only awards 1 xp. unless they fix wookie world it gives zero xp and rewards are nulls, because they dont exist yet except in some developers imagination.
K what quests are you talking about? Name names.
whats fun about being able to fight just as good as a lev 80 medic with my starter pistol wear ing the aboslute worse armor in teh game as a guy who is level 80 with a 5 proton carbine and wearing 6.7k armor? there is no reason to quest outside of xp the equipment in the game matters for absolutely nothing its a simple check do you have it yes no. I mean come on even in doom the weapons vary some.
whats fun about being exactly the same to everything as the guy standing next to me.
race - no difference at all except how you look.
sex - what bugs affect you with clothing thats it.
class - only specials differ in name- they scale exactly and use same damage table except for the class defining skill.
weapon - noob pistol give to you by han just as good as anythnig you can possibly find anywhere else so why bother ?
armor - again armor made by the most novice AS with the worst resources in existance work just as good as master quality with 300cpu resources.
Killing stuff killing a mob your level grants you 200-500 xp at level 70 nice until you factor in how many 200-500 xp kills = millions xp needed to make 80.
If you already did the ToOW quests - wether they give xp or not - your screwed most are one time only. no reason to ever go back once you been there. same with RotW excpt RoTW is totally destroyed as far as xp , spawns, rewards , actual text once you get 3-4 steps into quests.
fun - mobs still spawn inside buildings, retreat and heal instantly, or just do not exist ,ending your rise pre 30 if your going quest route . ( i think AA is wanting to change servers b/c this is what happened to him but he cant even admit there is a single problem. he personally has never seen a bug andhe says not one of his freinds left his guild or game and his server is packed with people , yet is willing to leave it all to move servers .. wonder why . i would never leave a good group of people even if the game was borked.) Sucks because the CSR's if they respond at all say we cant help you with that as NGE is not supported by csr staff yet, best part that toon is forever unable to contine the main story line quests if you dronp it to do another line so later when they DO fix it your toon must be re-rolled to continue anyway ( sucks eh?).
fun - combat , its so exploitable its sad. RE4 combat engine is not very good for a game mixing melee and ranged. One will always dominate, it is impossible to balance the issues in a RPG normally , but in current system they will never even get close.
fun - loot , yeah woo hoo i got 4 - eyes ,a lung and, a jedi robe. oo the robe cant be traded. helps me a ton being an officer/medic/bh/ etc...
fun - crafting - why? as stated and tested and proven the noob pistol and the worst armor in existance is = to the best gun and armor you can even imagine. nothing decays , so i buy armor from you once , maybe that is unless i get a drop that yes has lower resist ( dont matter thats a useless number not used in current engine) but has stat increases. Again why would i ever need anything a trader makes? vehicles (free) houses ( free) armor (drops beat crafted) weapons ( drops beat crafted). tailor? dont make me laugh it just think about how long it will take to find hides 'since thats now a random drop based on your level, to run a factory for anything.
chef - um everything useful requires a component from a BE - i dare you to find a BE in game.
still looking for something fun - everyone i knew on bria AND ahazi are gone. 3 entire guilds that were about 70 real people representing about 300 accounts. no community to play with. yeah thats fun.
seeing 20 noobs saying thank god this is only a trial and they did not have to buy anythnig to see how bad this game is, yeah those guys are gonna stay.
fun no random hunting - the server populations ( how many people actually logged in to the game) determine the random spawns on several planets . There are so few people playing that the event trigger cant even be hit ( last they ever posted about it was 200 people for max event trigger, remember when they used to post actual numbers, but they had to lower it after the CU for the initial player loss, not sure if they turned it back up) so on some servers there are less than 200 people online total and dont trigger random mobs.
fun space - already been there ive done just about all of it , mastered 4 of the 6 pilot lines. no replay value. But i will say if you have never done this part its probably the 2nd best aspect to SWG.
anyway fun is subjective. I find things like, good people , sense of accomplishment , thought provotking game play issues (old crafting), fast paced stable combat engines are fun (hope swg gets one soon), risks having penalty is a controll to give the sense of danger. come on even in pac -man when you lost a life you freaking hollared about it. In SWG death is a way to ghetto teleport across a planet ( or back to tat really fast from anywhere).
you say you're having a blast, doing what? suppsoedly none of your firends left and you have not once seen a bug ( i dont get you here usually your exactly opposite of a red name sayting yes we know this is an issue) , and admit the only way to play is completely give up your previous play time /accomplishments/ badges (some that are gone foever ) to enjoy. You say yeah you have to start over to have fun because your other toon couldnt advance,but then go on to say you dont beleive the over 30 content is gone, so which is it ?
anyway keep haing fun and most importantly keep paying to beta test the next version of SWG. we guys who will play the next one when it comes out really apprieciate it .
Who said I couldnt advance past level 30? I haven't gotten to level 30 yet. Who said none of my friends left? I changed servers because Erillion and the whole PA is basically gone. Look I respect your opinion, at least respect mine enough not to make stuff up or put words in my mouth.
The game is the funnest it's ever been for me, you disagree. We done now?
Originally posted by anarchyart Ok Gorair lol I think we get it. You feel hurt, slighted and affronted. It's gone too far and it isn't coming back. You won't ever play another sony game again. I know lol so find a new game and come back and tell me about it and maybe I'll try it too.
No you DONT get it Anarchy It's not about not liking the NGE. I like the CL1-30 game. It's not about not liking SOE. I could care less. There's only like two MMO makers out there that give a rip about their customers. And SOE, NCSOFT and Blizzard ain't them. It's not about feeling hurt. I don't feel hurt and didn't when they made the change.
What it IS about is: Is it worth $14.95 a month?
Let's see what we get for $14.95 a month shall we? 1) 30 levels out of a CL90 game 2) Several really broken quests 3) A Product that may completely change and eliminate months, if not years, worth of work without any notice. 4) 9 professions where there were once 32 5) A new "Twitchy" FPS combat system which caters to the FPS gamer but not most MMORPG gamers.
#1 alone is enough reason for me to not be willing to pay a monthly fee for ANY MMO that would do that. What baffles me is people who continue to make excuses for this and even say "The game is really fun if you start a new toon!"
Why should they have to start a new toon? I've said this dozens of times and still *you* don't get it. It's not about being hurt or betrayed. It's about value. And SWG no longer has any value.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Originally posted by anarchyart Look I respect your opinion, at least respect mine enough not to make stuff up or put words in my mouth. The game is the funnest it's ever been for me, you disagree. We done now?
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by anarchyart Look I respect your opinion, at least respect mine enough not to make stuff up or put words in my mouth. The game is the funnest it's ever been for me, you disagree. We done now?
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
Not to mention that every time he tries to speak 'for' the vets he completely ignores the fact that for most of us it's not about feeling 'betrayed'. Anyone feeling 'betrayed' over a game needs serious psychiatric help in the first place. For most Vets it's just that the NGE ruined a pretty fun game and made it not worth the monthly fee any longer. It's *just* *that* *simple*.
But Anarchy would rather have people think we're 'upset' and 'betrayed' than know the truth is that we just don't find any 'value' in paying for 1/3 of the game.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by anarchyart Look I respect your opinion, at least respect mine enough not to make stuff up or put words in my mouth. The game is the funnest it's ever been for me, you disagree. We done now?
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
Not to mention that every time he tries to speak 'for' the vets he completely ignores the fact that for most of us it's not about feeling 'betrayed'. Anyone feeling 'betrayed' over a game needs serious psychiatric help in the first place. For most Vets it's just that the NGE ruined a pretty fun game and made it not worth the monthly fee any longer. It's *just* *that* *simple*.
But Anarchy would rather have people think we're 'upset' and 'betrayed' than know the truth is that we just don't find any 'value' in paying for 1/3 of the game.
That and the fact that SOE and LEC have zero respect for the time investment of the players. They figure now they can toss us a respec kit and all is good.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
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try a new toon? some of us have been here 2 years .. wtf try a new toon. that right there is saying uh its broken and not worth it ,is the only way to play at all to start over?
bad bad planning.
thats reason enough for anyone who had spent any time in game developing a character to be against it.
I guess the ones who never knew about the .4% per 1% exp +1 forumals in crafting armor or sat there with a calculator crafting in their head with various resources and being dead on with the end product , the ones who never knew that PVP was awesome because it was an end game skill , yes it was a skill - if you had it , you could rock , if you didnt you died alot and hoped for something like the nge to make it all better.
hard to turn away from something you built for 2 years,something you knew in and out because hey guys the 1st 30 levels are awesome!!!! forget you been paying for 2 years on multipile accounts - forget all that great stuff you collected , you made , you spend hours, days, weeks putting together. ... forget it all . The noobstation rocks ... Lets not worry all of our friends left , that severs are so underpopulated that the damn mobs wont even spawn, that at 30 the game stops completely,its all good because hey the noob station rocks ... dont worry about not being a commando since its broken with no ETA on fixes .. be a medic since its the new FOTM alpha just like everyone else... and remember all that other stuff doesnt matter because hey the 1st 30 levels are awesome.
pitiful.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
not hurt , just really surprised with the direction it took. If my company did this i would find myself unemployed , my own board would toss me out on my arse using in house security.
so far in my spare time , i have an almost 20 page proof Im willing to send to SOE for compensation ; including a working aimbot , 2 lag generators , and multiple pages of exploits built into the game. The exact directions to duplicate certain items in the current system and how to trigger bugs that can potentially crash the servers if done on a wide scale ( we estimate , but dont know as we havent a clue to sonys actual space given to the game, think it would take only 16 -20 people to crash servers reliably). Things me and several other people figured out within hours of playing the game. not days , now what happens when people who feel no obligation to the game because they are a "hey i want to be uber or have one of everything" type of player, stumbles on these things and they become the common items required to even walk from the starport to the bazaar? None of these things we can do should be in a marketproduct,. Everything has problems and bugs on relasse but these were gaping wide holes left in there.
This is a piss poor product by any standards, and saying it isnt is a plain lie. It may be fun for a small minority ( using the broken clock is right twice a day theory) , but its still a developmental level piece of software, with no reason to be in the active marketplace.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
whats fun about accomplishing any quest ( if the text works and you dont get the genertic chat error with no text ) for 1 xp. Almost every quest either hits the no text error ( they havent coded it in yet for new system) or only awards 1 xp. unless they fix wookie world it gives zero xp and rewards are nulls, because they dont exist yet except in some developers imagination.
whats fun about being able to fight just as good as a lev 80 medic with my starter pistol wear ing the aboslute worse armor in teh game as a guy who is level 80 with a 5 proton carbine and wearing 6.7k armor? there is no reason to quest outside of xp the equipment in the game matters for absolutely nothing its a simple check do you have it yes no. I mean come on even in doom the weapons vary some.
whats fun about being exactly the same to everything as the guy standing next to me.
race - no difference at all except how you look.
sex - what bugs affect you with clothing thats it.
class - only specials differ in name- they scale exactly and use same damage table except for the class defining skill.
weapon - noob pistol give to you by han just as good as anythnig you can possibly find anywhere else so why bother ?
armor - again armor made by the most novice AS with the worst resources in existance work just as good as master quality with 300cpu resources.
Killing stuff killing a mob your level grants you 200-500 xp at level 70 nice until you factor in how many 200-500 xp kills = millions xp needed to make 80.
If you already did the ToOW quests - wether they give xp or not - your screwed most are one time only. no reason to ever go back once you been there. same with RotW excpt RoTW is totally destroyed as far as xp , spawns, rewards , actual text once you get 3-4 steps into quests.
fun - mobs still spawn inside buildings, retreat and heal instantly, or just do not exist ,ending your rise pre 30 if your going quest route . ( i think AA is wanting to change servers b/c this is what happened to him but he cant even admit there is a single problem. he personally has never seen a bug andhe says not one of his freinds left his guild or game and his server is packed with people , yet is willing to leave it all to move servers .. wonder why . i would never leave a good group of people even if the game was borked.) Sucks because the CSR's if they respond at all say we cant help you with that as NGE is not supported by csr staff yet, best part that toon is forever unable to contine the main story line quests if you dronp it to do another line so later when they DO fix it your toon must be re-rolled to continue anyway ( sucks eh?).
fun - combat , its so exploitable its sad. RE4 combat engine is not very good for a game mixing melee and ranged. One will always dominate, it is impossible to balance the issues in a RPG normally , but in current system they will never even get close.
fun - loot , yeah woo hoo i got 4 - eyes ,a lung and, a jedi robe. oo the robe cant be traded. helps me a ton being an officer/medic/bh/ etc...
fun - crafting - why? as stated and tested and proven the noob pistol and the worst armor in existance is = to the best gun and armor you can even imagine. nothing decays , so i buy armor from you once , maybe that is unless i get a drop that yes has lower resist ( dont matter thats a useless number not used in current engine) but has stat increases. Again why would i ever need anything a trader makes? vehicles (free) houses ( free) armor (drops beat crafted) weapons ( drops beat crafted). tailor? dont make me laugh it just think about how long it will take to find hides 'since thats now a random drop based on your level, to run a factory for anything.
chef - um everything useful requires a component from a BE - i dare you to find a BE in game.
still looking for something fun - everyone i knew on bria AND ahazi are gone. 3 entire guilds that were about 70 real people representing about 300 accounts. no community to play with. yeah thats fun.
seeing 20 noobs saying thank god this is only a trial and they did not have to buy anythnig to see how bad this game is, yeah those guys are gonna stay.
fun no random hunting - the server populations ( how many people actually logged in to the game) determine the random spawns on several planets . There are so few people playing that the event trigger cant even be hit ( last they ever posted about it was 200 people for max event trigger, remember when they used to post actual numbers, but they had to lower it after the CU for the initial player loss, not sure if they turned it back up) so on some servers there are less than 200 people online total and dont trigger random mobs.
fun space - already been there ive done just about all of it , mastered 4 of the 6 pilot lines. no replay value. But i will say if you have never done this part its probably the 2nd best aspect to SWG.
anyway fun is subjective. I find things like, good people , sense of accomplishment , thought provotking game play issues (old crafting), fast paced stable combat engines are fun (hope swg gets one soon), risks having penalty is a controll to give the sense of danger. come on even in pac -man when you lost a life you freaking hollared about it. In SWG death is a way to ghetto teleport across a planet ( or back to tat really fast from anywhere).
you say you're having a blast, doing what? suppsoedly none of your firends left and you have not once seen a bug ( i dont get you here usually your exactly opposite of a red name sayting yes we know this is an issue) , and admit the only way to play is completely give up your previous play time /accomplishments/ badges (some that are gone foever ) to enjoy. You say yeah you have to start over to have fun because your other toon couldnt advance,but then go on to say you dont beleive the over 30 content is gone, so which is it ?
anyway keep haing fun and most importantly keep paying to beta test the next version of SWG. we guys who will play the next one when it comes out really apprieciate it .
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Who said I couldnt advance past level 30? I haven't gotten to level 30 yet. Who said none of my friends left? I changed servers because Erillion and the whole PA is basically gone. Look I respect your opinion, at least respect mine enough not to make stuff up or put words in my mouth.
The game is the funnest it's ever been for me, you disagree. We done now?
No you DONT get it Anarchy
It's not about not liking the NGE. I like the CL1-30 game.
It's not about not liking SOE. I could care less. There's only like two MMO makers out there that give a rip about their customers. And SOE, NCSOFT and Blizzard ain't them.
It's not about feeling hurt. I don't feel hurt and didn't when they made the change.
What it IS about is:
Is it worth $14.95 a month?
Let's see what we get for $14.95 a month shall we?
1) 30 levels out of a CL90 game
2) Several really broken quests
3) A Product that may completely change and eliminate months, if not years, worth of work without any notice.
4) 9 professions where there were once 32
5) A new "Twitchy" FPS combat system which caters to the FPS gamer but not most MMORPG gamers.
#1 alone is enough reason for me to not be willing to pay a monthly fee for ANY MMO that would do that. What baffles me is people who continue to make excuses for this and even say "The game is really fun if you start a new toon!"
Why should they have to start a new toon? I've said this dozens of times and still *you* don't get it. It's not about being hurt or betrayed. It's about value. And SWG no longer has any value.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
Not to mention that every time he tries to speak 'for' the vets he completely ignores the fact that for most of us it's not about feeling 'betrayed'. Anyone feeling 'betrayed' over a game needs serious psychiatric help in the first place. For most Vets it's just that the NGE ruined a pretty fun game and made it not worth the monthly fee any longer. It's *just* *that* *simple*.
But Anarchy would rather have people think we're 'upset' and 'betrayed' than know the truth is that we just don't find any 'value' in paying for 1/3 of the game.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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Still in: A couple Betas
Why not? You have been trying to speak for the vet's since this all started. You say you feel for them, yet I don't see any action behind those words...
Not to mention that every time he tries to speak 'for' the vets he completely ignores the fact that for most of us it's not about feeling 'betrayed'. Anyone feeling 'betrayed' over a game needs serious psychiatric help in the first place. For most Vets it's just that the NGE ruined a pretty fun game and made it not worth the monthly fee any longer. It's *just* *that* *simple*.
But Anarchy would rather have people think we're 'upset' and 'betrayed' than know the truth is that we just don't find any 'value' in paying for 1/3 of the game.
That and the fact that SOE and LEC have zero respect for the time investment of the players. They figure now they can toss us a respec kit and all is good.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World