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Theed is just PACKED tonite

ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

Oh ya, the NGE and the new trial are just bringing in tons of business. I took these about 40 minutes ago, primetime on the east coast.

Theed 1
Theed 2
Theed 3
Theed 4

- Scaris

"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

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  • grapevinegrapevine Member UncommonPosts: 1,927
    A pretty sad sight really.
  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924

    Liars the NGE is doing great and everyone loves it!

    I heard you smell and everyone left Theed cause u stink.

    Everyone is on mustarfarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Or at least that is what the nge supports will say on the forums.

    Its senseless to even comment man.  Look at there bug thread.  All issues that worked pre nge.  Everyone of them.  Its like they regressed the game to a state where basic fundamentals dont work.  I say like cause some people no matter what you show them dont agree so they get like :)

    I will just say come over to guild wars, wow or CoH/CoV and play an mmo that at least has the core working.  I will probably check out the nge once target lock is back, and 99% of what they took out is put in as "Hotfixes" to fix "bugs".  It laughable.  Reintroduce player customization? HAHA.  Why take it out to only put it back in at a later date?

    Why change combat to fps then start devising some hybrid jtl combat lock.  It makes no sense.  That is why you all are fustrated.  Look at the what we are working on post.  It just makes no sense at all to develop something in this manner.  It would be like office taking away word and then saying we are working on a new editor that will be very similar to word but different! For now though just make due with notepad.

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    I only have a SWG account at this point because of the extra EQ II character slots Haxx. I don't actually play SWG anymore, there is nothing fun left about it. But I wanted to go looking tonite to see what the population was like cause I keep reading everyone say the servers are literaly dead and people see like 3 people. Well I have now experienced that for myself!

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • haxxjoohaxxjoo Member Posts: 924

    I respect that Fad.  Dont mean you should cancel or anything of that ilk.  I mean it in a generalized review of the game fashion.

    If you at all challenge the NGE's process currently you get comments deleted as off topic.

    I posted in the TH thread something of didn't this all work prior to the NGE and why not remove the NGE thus fixing the issues on the LIVE servers until the NGE has these issues resolved.  It was removed for being off topic. 

    Even though I suggested a perfectly logical solution to 99% of the problems he mentioned.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    Dontcha know? The new hotspot in the galaxy is Dejaric, Talus?

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
    Proud member of the Cabal.
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332

    I have posted twice so far and have been lucky enough to be looked over. Will have to see if they are still there later.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • SonOfAGhostSonOfAGhost Member Posts: 383

    They've officially stated that target lock will NOT be returning.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Did Theed used to be busy? Last night I was there too and there was like 8 people. It sure is a beautiful city though. Mos Eisley is usually 32+ players on my server, Naritus. I sure do enjoy the new system, wish the vets did too. image

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  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Your server must be one of the less popular ones as on Bria i always see a mass of peeps around there.  And i dont play at your 'prime time' as im in Australia so i would think it would be even busier at those times.
  • RubycatRubycat Member Posts: 223

    Vets wont just accept the NGE. to them everything they loved about SWG was taken away or changed in a way they dont care to play anymore.

  • kefkahkefkah Member UncommonPosts: 832

    On Eclipse, Theed was the 2nd most popular spot for players. You'd step off the ship and run into a veritable carnival of people. Duels, buffs, loot spammers, duels, image designers, duels and overall a great place to interact with the community. These pics confirm that Theed is still there but that community that we reference so much (those vets that you keep pointing out) are not.

    anarchyart enjoys the NGE, guys and girls but to paraphrase a line from A Man Said To The Universe - that fact in itself does not create in Vets a sense of obligation nor help the traders with their oh so recently denied respec that makes them of any use.

     

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by Rubycat
    Vets wont just accept the NGE. to them everything they loved about SWG was taken away or changed in a way they dont care to play anymore.

    I think most of the VETs arent leaving because of the game changes (although many are). I think the majority of the people leaving is because of the way LA presumes they can change the core gaming of this mmorpg so late in its life and without notification of the existing playerbase.

    They are more New member focused while not caring whatsoever to the existing higher lvl playerbase. This is where their business ethics are sorely lacking. However, for LA, this has been happening in every dimension. George Lucas has turned into the very man he hated in the 70's: a Huge meglomaniac business man who sees monetary profits over personal ingenuity. Very ironic to see, in my opinion.

    Sorta like seeing a hippy eventually evolve into a four star general for the U.S. Marine Corp and eventually becoming Joint Chiefs of staff

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378



    Originally posted by En1Gma



    Sorta like seeing a hippy eventually evolve into a four star general for the U.S. Marine Corp and eventually becoming Joint Chiefs of staff



    That's what happened to ALL the hippies. Now, instead of camping in public parks and strumming acoustics and wearing flowers in their hair, they own oceanfront property and stand on the backs of the very same people that they were in their youth.

    But back on subject, I really hope they continue on this course with the NGE. Narrowing the games professions might have hurt some people, but inevitably will make it easier for them to FINALLY fix the bugs that have plagued the game since time immemorial. Fix the bugs, add more spice and some GCW love and it will be the game it always should have been.

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  • JodokaiJodokai Member Posts: 1,621



    Originally posted by En1Gma

    George Lucas has turned into the very man he hated in the 70's: a Huge meglomaniac business man who sees monetary profits over personal ingenuity. Very ironic to see, in my opinion.
    Sorta like seeing a hippy eventually evolve into a four star general for the U.S. Marine Corp and eventually becoming Joint Chiefs of staff



    Can I get an AMEN (or whatever passes for one in your culture/relgious beliefs)
  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Fadeus

    Oh ya, the NGE and the new trial are just bringing in tons of business. I took these about 40 minutes ago, primetime on the east coast.
    Theed 1
    Theed 2
    Theed 3
    Theed 4



    Heh, Theed on Chilastra is busier then that in the wee hours of the AM EST.  I posted the pics of Theed on Chilastra the other day, it's still pretty much the same, but those numbers seem to be there whenever I'm on (and being in NZ, that's not always prime time US).  The pics I posted were done at what I think is the same time you did yours

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  • cyress8cyress8 Member Posts: 832


    Originally posted by Obraik
    Originally posted by Fadeus
    Oh ya, the NGE and the new trial are just bringing in tons of business. I took these about 40 minutes ago, primetime on the east coast.
    Theed 1Theed 2Theed 3Theed 4Heh, Theed on Chilastra is busier then that in the wee hours of the AM EST.  I posted the pics of Theed on Chilastra the other day, it's still pretty much the same, but those numbers seem to be there whenever I'm on (and being in NZ, that's not always prime time US).  The pics I posted were done at what I think is the same time you did yours

    Actually he did it at prime time, 7 pm, im looking at the time he posted, plus it really is like that theed was the second capital of SWG and coronet was the first

    BOOYAKA!

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by cyress8




    Originally posted by Obraik


    Originally posted by Fadeus
    Oh ya, the NGE and the new trial are just bringing in tons of business. I took these about 40 minutes ago, primetime on the east coast.
    Theed 1Theed 2Theed 3Theed 4
    Heh, Theed on Chilastra is busier then that in the wee hours of the AM EST.  I posted the pics of Theed on Chilastra the other day, it's still pretty much the same, but those numbers seem to be there whenever I'm on (and being in NZ, that's not always prime time US).  The pics I posted were done at what I think is the same time you did yours


    Actually he did it at prime time, 7 pm, im looking at the time he posted, plus it really is like that theed was the second capital of SWG and coronet was the first



    Yeah, I was comparing those pics to Chilastra at off-peak in the AM, he's on a different server :)

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  • ResetgunResetgun Member Posts: 471



    Originally posted by En1Gma


    I think most of the VETs arent leaving because of the game changes (although many are). I think the majority of the people leaving is because of the way LA presumes they can change the core gaming of this mmorpg so late in its life and without notification of the existing playerbase.



    I agree. I think that NGE have some good features that would make game better and I could play it after few months testing, fixing out all major bugs and after some major changes. I strongly dislike changes that remove crafting, character variation (skill mixing) and entertainers from game.

    I can't support company that publish this kind major changes with 14 days warning without proper testing and feedback loops. This beta testing should have been done in test centers not in production servers with paying customers.

    Game is not a problem - company (SOE, LA or both) that is running game and its attitude towards paying customers is problem.

    "I know I said this was my last post, but you my friend are a idiotic moron." -Shadow4482

  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959

    I really tried to like it at 1st , because on paper the NGE didnt look bad at all.

    In reality its just a simple simple game that not very well done for the niche its trying to fill.

    RPG - fails because of ther UI and combat lack of bewing able to chat while fighting alone tells you they dont want you to roleplay at all just shoot stuff ... thats content.

    FPS - fails because its not a very good game for a FPS. This RE4 game shell slapped on SWG makes it into a really badly done mash of 1980's technology FPS games.

    Complexity - its was hard to learn and the curve was steep. Now a 3 year old can pick it up and go to town. No individuality ( classes dont matter there are only 2 actually melee or ranged and they mix)Hell the only way you can use a jedi power is equip a rifle and WOW you can now force choke up to the rifles range , equip a saber and poof cant force choke anymore ( 2m range). See the jedi throwing stun batons so they do damage? sad. Ranged all same a officer does same damage shooting as a commando as a medic as a trader as a spy etc ... the specials differ a bit but only on the class definfing special so all ranged = all ramnged with 1 power thats common to the profession.

    No worries about uber gear that pistol han solo gives you at cl1  in the turotial space station  can serve you until level 90 no wepeon you find will do better or worse than it. Same with armor its a simple yes/no check yes you do, no you dont ,protection % remains the same wether its composite or chitin ( heehee chitin was ghetto comp back in the day).

    zero option to be different every medic = every medic  every jedi = every jedi . Traders are gone because it was simply too dificult for alot of people to actually figure out how to be one. now splammo - drops will be king.

    Thats just game play , its too simple now its a kids game now a bad one. Why would adults want to pay to play a game obviously designed for the enjoyment of 10-14 year olds?

    Next you get into the " it would be criminal if they had done this anywhere but the internet" business practices. If they had put TooW on store shelves they would  most likely be under federal indicment right now for fair trade abuses , have it digital only was a clever move on their part and shows they went into the NGE with the intent to decieve you and steal your money. SO they offered a refund , but they get it back easily the extra 10 levels were to be added into the game independantly of ToOw, they changed it after -wow- yup almost everyone asked for their money back. Now its required to get to 90.

    The game has gone thru a fundemental change , wether its fun or not isnt an issue , fanbois jump on this one alot its soo FUN!!

    1) me and anyone else define fun differerently so someone else having fun is irrevelant unless they know me and how i do things maybe a RL friend so the fun faction is a lame defence for a good game or not. When i look at a game i see FUN GAMEPLAY  then look at what makes it fun usually people cant post enuff about what MAKES it fun, not just saying OMG ITS FUN!!!- in this case there is zero supporting evidence outside the words fun ,wonder why, thats very uncommon behavior for how people who really like something act normally. diverse - yeah right look up what that word means.

    2) SOE has stolen money from every person playing that does not accept the changes, period. You paid for SWG for 6 mos , a year? dont like it? tough. You money is gone unless you go thru your CC company to have them fight for you. ( waring doing this means you can never play SWG again because they will put a hold on your accounts for the amount of the refund so if you come back in a year you have to pay a year to just bring it up to date). To defend a thief who is stealing money from people who just dont like it or even worse a disabled person who cannot play anymore because of the new design  shows the weakness of character and flaws SOE wants to target in their new target audience.

     Just remember everyone who likes the NGE cause its fun or will be great in 6 months ( we mean it this time (tm!))! in 4-6 months when they take something from you , you get zero right to complain because you have given them permission to lie to you , to change your game at their convience , and to steal your money. Allowing them to do it to the vets and keeping an account shows approval of their business practices and your support.

    have a nice day, and plase stay in the game if you like it, someone needs to pay to beta test it for the next generation of players of SWG.

     

    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    Theed had maybe 5-10 people in Theed at UK prime time before NGE, Bestine was the main place really, after Coro dying post CU.

    On paper, i liked the new idea's and who wouldnt: Fighting is now skill based, Officers can call down airstrikes from space, every prof has a purpose, perhaps the GCW might come alive?

    However they didnt say what else they would be taking away, nor how they would implement it. Afaik, the combat isn't skil based, infact its even more rudementary than before. Lack of customisation between chars: i mastered 18 profs thoughout my SWG career, simply because i wanted to be different and try something new, also dodging fotm profs. I came back after the CU to try it out and after being appauled by the combat, i went Chef/BE, spending all my credits on resources. Now i hear crafting is less of an option :O.

    Bugs are bugs, couldnt care less about them. Playing SWG since not long after Farstar went up, id hear about bugs all the time, game breakers, but they'd never affect me, or would i see them, so i can say that even in the NGE, i wouldn't come across much to be a game stopper. However, there doesn't seem to be a game to stop atm, and most importantly, everyone i know has quit and joined my guild for an upcoming MMO released in 2006. Even if everything was corrected and made to be as it should, i think id find myself looking for a new group of friends each and every week, and i cant play an MMO like that, im not a solo player, thats not the point of MMO's.

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by anarchyart
    Did Theed used to be busy? Last night I was there too and there was like 8 people. It sure is a beautiful city though. Mos Eisley is usually 32+ players on my server, Naritus. I sure do enjoy the new system, wish the vets did too. image


    Umm, nice try chief. I am on Naritus as well, shall I throw up some Mos Eisley pics, that city I have been watching way more then Theed. And yes Theed has always been a focal point and fairly busy city. I was in Mos Eisley lastnight, 2 players in front of the spaceport and about 6 afk entertainers macroing (which I was actually shocked by btw). I have NEVER seen 32 people swarming around Mos Eisley since the NGE.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Gorair

    Next you get into the " it would be criminal if they had done this anywhere but the internet" business practices. If they had put TooW on store shelves they would  most likely be under federal indicment right now for fair trade abuses , have it digital only was a clever move on their part and shows they went into the NGE with the intent to decieve you and steal your money. SO they offered a refund , but they get it back easily the extra 10 levels were to be added into the game independantly of ToOw, they changed it after -wow- yup almost everyone asked for their money back. Now its required to get to 90.
    The laws don't differ for buying online and buying a physical copy in the shop.  At least not here in New Zealand, and I'm sure it'll be the same in the USA.  I think you'll find the reason why the ToOW quests give XP is because it was designed with the NGE in mind from the start, and part of that design is quests giving XP.  ANY new quest that comes out now will more then likely have XP as a reward.  The expansion isn't required to get to 90, you can still earn XP the old fashioned way and get to 90 that way.  ToOW is just the turbo option for now.
    The game has gone thru a fundemental change , wether its fun or not isnt an issue , fanbois jump on this one alot its soo FUN!!
    1) me and anyone else define fun differerently so someone else having fun is irrevelant unless they know me and how i do things maybe a RL friend so the fun faction is a lame defence for a good game or not. When i look at a game i see FUN GAMEPLAY  then look at what makes it fun usually people cant post enuff about what MAKES it fun, not just saying OMG ITS FUN!!!- in this case there is zero supporting evidence outside the words fun ,wonder why, thats very uncommon behavior for how people who really like something act normally. diverse - yeah right look up what that word means.
    Hence why I always (try and remember to anyway) add "for me" when I say it's fun.  I know full well that my idea of fun isn't the same as the next persons.  I could post why I find it fun, but that post will just be a magnet for abuse so why bother?
    2) SOE has stolen money from every person playing that does not accept the changes, period. You paid for SWG for 6 mos , a year? dont like it? tough. You money is gone unless you go thru your CC company to have them fight for you. ( waring doing this means you can never play SWG again because they will put a hold on your accounts for the amount of the refund so if you come back in a year you have to pay a year to just bring it up to date). To defend a thief who is stealing money from people who just dont like it or even worse a disabled person who cannot play anymore because of the new design  shows the weakness of character and flaws SOE wants to target in their new target audience.
    Don't make out everyone who continues to play the game to be bad people...
     Just remember everyone who likes the NGE cause its fun or will be great in 6 months ( we mean it this time (tm!))! in 4-6 months when they take something from you , you get zero right to complain because you have given them permission to lie to you , to change your game at their convience , and to steal your money. Allowing them to do it to the vets and keeping an account shows approval of their business practices and your support.
    More guilt tripping?
    have a nice day, and plase stay in the game if you like it, someone needs to pay to beta test it for the next generation of players of SWG.
     



    Consider the stuff I didn't quote to be stuff I don't completely object.  Some of it I might (like the damage stuff) but TBH I'm too tired to go do the research to find out if you may or may not be right...

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  • GorairGorair Member Posts: 959



    Originally posted by Obraik



    Originally posted by Gorair

    Next you get into the " it would be criminal if they had done this anywhere but the internet" business practices. If they had put TooW on store shelves they would  most likely be under federal indicment right now for fair trade abuses , have it digital only was a clever move on their part and shows they went into the NGE with the intent to decieve you and steal your money. SO they offered a refund , but they get it back easily the extra 10 levels were to be added into the game independantly of ToOw, they changed it after -wow- yup almost everyone asked for their money back. Now its required to get to 90.
    The laws don't differ for buying online and buying a physical copy in the shop.  At least not here in New Zealand, and I'm sure it'll be the same in the USA.  I think you'll find the reason why the ToOW quests give XP is because it was designed with the NGE in mind from the start, and part of that design is quests giving XP.  ANY new quest that comes out now will more then likely have XP as a reward.  The expansion isn't required to get to 90, you can still earn XP the old fashioned way and get to 90 that way.  ToOW is just the turbo option for now.
    Yes the laws do differ when an item is non refundable like computer software. Its based on state law usuallyso it might differ where some people are. Consumer bill of rights laws in 11 states over ride a EULA.
    The game has gone thru a fundemental change , wether its fun or not isnt an issue , fanbois jump on this one alot its soo FUN!!
    1) me and anyone else define fun differerently so someone else having fun is irrevelant unless they know me and how i do things maybe a RL friend so the fun faction is a lame defence for a good game or not. When i look at a game i see FUN GAMEPLAY  then look at what makes it fun usually people cant post enuff about what MAKES it fun, not just saying OMG ITS FUN!!!- in this case there is zero supporting evidence outside the words fun ,wonder why, thats very uncommon behavior for how people who really like something act normally. diverse - yeah right look up what that word means.
    Hence why I always (try and remember to anyway) add "for me" when I say it's fun.  I know full well that my idea of fun isn't the same as the next persons.  I could post why I find it fun, but that post will just be a magnet for abuse so why bother?
    I dunno im just getting tired of seeing fun , diverse, star warsy with zero amplification . I mean those are the words form a SOE press releases. At least 1 person somewhere can give more to WHY cant they? just once?
    2) SOE has stolen money from every person playing that does not accept the changes, period. You paid for SWG for 6 mos , a year? dont like it? tough. You money is gone unless you go thru your CC company to have them fight for you. ( waring doing this means you can never play SWG again because they will put a hold on your accounts for the amount of the refund so if you come back in a year you have to pay a year to just bring it up to date). To defend a thief who is stealing money from people who just dont like it or even worse a disabled person who cannot play anymore because of the new design  shows the weakness of character and flaws SOE wants to target in their new target audience.
    Don't make out everyone who continues to play the game to be bad people...
    Im not, this is true, they are stealing its a sin as well as against the law ( if you believe in god) if you feel bad its not my fault. I just pointing out what has happened, you agree its happening but not what? not everyone who plays supports how they treat customers? how they treat the disabled? how they treat those who want to cancel 1 year subscritions?
     Just remember everyone who likes the NGE cause its fun or will be great in 6 months ( we mean it this time (tm!))! in 4-6 months when they take something from you , you get zero right to complain because you have given them permission to lie to you , to change your game at their convience , and to steal your money. Allowing them to do it to the vets and keeping an account shows approval of their business practices and your support.
    More guilt tripping?
    Nope more truth , if you feel guilty, again its your actions that determine how you feel, nothing i can do to affect your feelings if you are secure with your core self ( hell im some random guy on a forum if i make you do anything ,seriously, get off the internet). You dont have to accept these truths but you do have to accept how others see you for commiting to said actions. You let the ones ahead of you get shat on, and even supported it. dont be suprised when its the next gen of players turn. It has happened twice now , this time WHILE they were flat out lying to the entire player base about it. Where is the proof they arent lying to you now?
    have a nice day, and plase stay in the game if you like it, someone needs to pay to beta test it for the next generation of players of SWG.
     


    Consider the stuff I didn't quote to be stuff I don't completely object.  Some of it I might (like the damage stuff) but TBH I'm too tired to go do the research to find out if you may or may not be right...




    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261



    Originally posted by Gorair



    Originally posted by Obraik



    Originally posted by Gorair

    Next you get into the " it would be criminal if they had done this anywhere but the internet" business practices. If they had put TooW on store shelves they would  most likely be under federal indicment right now for fair trade abuses , have it digital only was a clever move on their part and shows they went into the NGE with the intent to decieve you and steal your money. SO they offered a refund , but they get it back easily the extra 10 levels were to be added into the game independantly of ToOw, they changed it after -wow- yup almost everyone asked for their money back. Now its required to get to 90.
    The laws don't differ for buying online and buying a physical copy in the shop.  At least not here in New Zealand, and I'm sure it'll be the same in the USA.  I think you'll find the reason why the ToOW quests give XP is because it was designed with the NGE in mind from the start, and part of that design is quests giving XP.  ANY new quest that comes out now will more then likely have XP as a reward.  The expansion isn't required to get to 90, you can still earn XP the old fashioned way and get to 90 that way.  ToOW is just the turbo option for now.
    Yes the laws do differ when an item is non refundable like computer software. Its based on state law usuallyso it might differ where some people are. Consumer bill of rights laws in 11 states over ride a EULA.
    Bah, you all need one law to follow not 52 image  Where I live, stores/service providers have the right not refund software if it's simply because you don't like it (piracy is the main reason here).  If however the product/service is not as advertised then you have full right to get a refund.  The expansion probably would not be refundable because it is still the same after the NGE.  You can still do everything as advertised.  However, I believe you would be able to claim a refund on your subscription cost if you brought a few months in advance because that is the service that has changed.  Doesn't really matter tho because it's Californian law that applies, not NZ...
    The game has gone thru a fundemental change , wether its fun or not isnt an issue , fanbois jump on this one alot its soo FUN!!
    1) me and anyone else define fun differerently so someone else having fun is irrevelant unless they know me and how i do things maybe a RL friend so the fun faction is a lame defence for a good game or not. When i look at a game i see FUN GAMEPLAY  then look at what makes it fun usually people cant post enuff about what MAKES it fun, not just saying OMG ITS FUN!!!- in this case there is zero supporting evidence outside the words fun ,wonder why, thats very uncommon behavior for how people who really like something act normally. diverse - yeah right look up what that word means.
    Hence why I always (try and remember to anyway) add "for me" when I say it's fun.  I know full well that my idea of fun isn't the same as the next persons.  I could post why I find it fun, but that post will just be a magnet for abuse so why bother?
    I dunno im just getting tired of seeing fun , diverse, star warsy with zero amplification . I mean those are the words form a SOE press releases. At least 1 person somewhere can give more to WHY cant they? just once?
    Maybe tomorrow I'll make a post detailing why I find it fun image
    2) SOE has stolen money from every person playing that does not accept the changes, period. You paid for SWG for 6 mos , a year? dont like it? tough. You money is gone unless you go thru your CC company to have them fight for you. ( waring doing this means you can never play SWG again because they will put a hold on your accounts for the amount of the refund so if you come back in a year you have to pay a year to just bring it up to date). To defend a thief who is stealing money from people who just dont like it or even worse a disabled person who cannot play anymore because of the new design  shows the weakness of character and flaws SOE wants to target in their new target audience.
    Don't make out everyone who continues to play the game to be bad people...
    Im not, this is true, they are stealing its a sin as well as against the law ( if you believe in god) if you feel bad its not my fault. I just pointing out what has happened, you agree its happening but not what? not everyone who plays supports how they treat customers? how they treat the disabled? how they treat those who want to cancel 1 year subscritions?
    No, I don't feel bad.  That doesn't mean I agree with everything SOE is doing.  I also don't believe everything thats happening is intentional (like with disability players.  It's an oversight, yes, but I don't think they thought "lets make it so they can't play now *evil laugh*")
     Just remember everyone who likes the NGE cause its fun or will be great in 6 months ( we mean it this time (tm!))! in 4-6 months when they take something from you , you get zero right to complain because you have given them permission to lie to you , to change your game at their convience , and to steal your money. Allowing them to do it to the vets and keeping an account shows approval of their business practices and your support.
    More guilt tripping?
    Nope more truth , if you feel guilty, again its your actions that determine how you feel, nothing i can do to affect your feelings if you are secure with your core self ( hell im some random guy on a forum if i make you do anything ,seriously, get off the internet). You dont have to accept these truths but you do have to accept how others see you for commiting to said actions. You let the ones ahead of you get shat on, and even supported it. dont be suprised when its the next gen of players turn. It has happened twice now , this time WHILE they were flat out lying to the entire player base about it. Where is the proof they arent lying to you now?
    What exactly did they lie about?  They never said the NGE wasn't happening.  It would have been a lie if a Dev or TH replied to that "Uncle thread" and denied it all.  Should they have given more warning?  Yes probably, but they weren't lieing by not announcing it earlier. 
    have a nice day, and plase stay in the game if you like it, someone needs to pay to beta test it for the next generation of players of SWG.
     


    Consider the stuff I didn't quote to be stuff I don't completely object.  Some of it I might (like the damage stuff) but TBH I'm too tired to go do the research to find out if you may or may not be right...








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  • IcoGamesIcoGames Member Posts: 2,360

    SOE and LA are partners (let me know if anyone needs further clarification on that word). Both deserve kudos for this mess.

    Yeah, this game's about as dead as a coon crossing the highway. ::::31::

    Ico
    Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.

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