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Healer question...
brm10comp
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Ok of all the main healers in the game aka Druid, Healer, etc which one has the greatest heal potential? Also, what types of damage does a healer from the midgard realm do? Are they strictly melee when it comes to soloing?
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Healers don't solo...ever. They didn't use to anyway, group play is what DAoC was all about when I played.
I'd say the Healer class is the best healer due to their cc-abilities, but Druid and Cleric are also very nice and not much differentiate the 3 of them.
Only Cleric has some offensive spells other than the druids DoT and no real Cleric would ever spec smite.
I'm not very updated tho, with all the ToA crap and stuff I might be entirely wrong
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Both of you are wrong.
You can solo just fine now in ANY class. Even Healer or Heal specc'd cleric. Druids ALWAYS could solo and are excellent healers as well since their strongest spec line is their heal line. Wardens, Bards, Friars and Shaman were always decent solo classes as well.
And now solo is very much easier than it was when most of us played before. Soloing a healer is *harder* than other classes, as is a 'heal spec' cleric for alb. But it's certainly do-able if you so desire. As I said.... ANY class can solo pretty effectively now. Some ARE, however, better than others at solo.
And grouping is ALWAYS the faster way to level.
NOTE: I'm speaking, of course, in the PVE sense. Soloing in PVP is suicide as anything but a stealth char.
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I understand that nthnaoun.
But the fact is that if you need to/want to you CAN solo a cleric. You can't say 'it's impossible' because it's not impossible it's just inneficient.
And I HAVE, in fact, played a rej/enh cleric... not right now... but back before TOA came out I did. And I solo'd him rather frequently due to my playstyle/times.
It's not EASY but it's certainly possible.
A direct quote from my post:
^^^ 100% True ^^^
Also, if one really wanted to SOLO a *cleric* to 50 they could simply level up as a Smite/enh/rej cleric and then do a single line or multiple single line respec at 50 to switch to a heal/rej spec cleric.
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DAOC was designed at the start so that you could solo. What they considered solo was that you can kill a blue mob. A blue mob was just below you in level/power. However the amount of XP you get for those starts to become crappy after your first few levels.
So ideally you need to be able to solo oranges with little to no downtime. Yellows are acceptible espically if you can kill large numbers of them at a time, but orange is prefered.
So the question being asked as to if X class can solo or not really depends on what you mean by solo. Do you take the litteral meaning of can a class go out and kill something to get XP? Or do you take what is most likely the spirit of the question of can I make reasonable progress while soloing?
The answer is simply this. Most classes can kill something to get XP. There will be certain classes that are trained in certain specs that boarder on making it impossible. But if you want to make reasonable progress then heal classes are not your best soloers. If you have Catacombs and do the quests then it is much easier. Further if you decide to go play a Druid you can actually solo pretty well and take out oranges. Most of the other healing classes you will top out on yellows.
I understand that nthnaoun.
But the fact is that if you need to/want to you CAN solo a cleric. You can't say 'it's impossible' because it's not impossible it's just inneficient.
And I HAVE, in fact, played a rej/enh cleric... not right now... but back before TOA came out I did. And I solo'd him rather frequently due to my playstyle/times.
It's not EASY but it's certainly possible.
A direct quote from my post:
^^^ 100% True ^^^
Also, if one really wanted to SOLO a *cleric* to 50 they could simply level up as a Smite/enh/rej cleric and then do a single line or multiple single line respec at 50 to switch to a heal/rej spec cleric.
I did not say it was impossible to solo a cleric. Your puting words in my mouth. I said it is not really a soloable class. That means they can solo, but not well enough to mention.
Ahh but a CLERIC is a soloable class, depending how you spec it. The "HEALER" on the other hand... they don't really have an offensive spec line... so they have it worse... by far...
I guess when I think of a 'soloable' class I think of it as "Is it possible to solo as this class".
Probably because of my old EQ days where it really WAS impossible to solo for some classes....
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I shoulda just scroled to the bottom of this post. Coulda read it all at once then
Pac spec healer are good at solo'n, especially if you get alot of items with charges and procs since they have a insta mezz to back up halfway through the fight and heal and a insta stun for the same reason.
The druid has his pet so the pet can attack first followed by the poison. If the mob comes after you then ya beat it. Not bad since the druid and use club and sword.
I don't know crap about the cleric. Personnally alb was never my favorite realm and each time I played it I got bored in about 10 minutes. I do know the tic though and the tic is VERY solo-able to even a oj if you spec right.
I dont think that an acurate statement to say you can solo a healer. Especially a pac/mend healer. I have a 48 pac/med healer it is great in rvr and pve in group I have CC and healing but only with a group.
But solo.. Theres no way. I needed to have someone heal me doing the blue con mobs on krojers. I have epic armor and a DD proc hammer with 16.5 dps and it still took me a good 5 mintues killing a blue con mob with some healing. Yeah I got and insta heal and insta stun and still needed someone to heal me.
I could proably kill only green con mobs and then it would take me a long time. Leveling solo with a healer is pointless endevour its much easier to lvl a stealther pve than a healer. Sure you spec Aug and then youde be able to solo more with the dmg add on the aug line. But if you want the good heals and good cc of a pac and mend spec you need to play iwht a group.
truthfully with a midgard healer you really dont even need to worry about solo'n anyways. Theres so few healers out that chances are as soon as you pop in some one will pm "join us join us join us plssssss!"
If I remember by the time I get home after work tonight I'll post some notes I have on different spec's for a healer. I've got 16 pages of info for making a grp/solo/ rounded healer including what gear to get, what the better rps are, ml exp and how not to look like a healer blah blah. Some of that info I posted in the RVR forum under the tanks are useless in rvr thread.
Krojer's step is hard for anyone really. The mobs generally con yellow to me but it always feels like Im fighting a oj or better. I used to use my roomies pac healer to PL my pac healer (a bot with a bot
) down in spin and I never had to jump machines to make emergency heals. The biggest deal just depends on the gear. Try finding a shield that has a Dot proc. Your epic suit is very uber with the abs, lifetap, heal, power and regen procs. A procing hammer is good but don't deny yourself the shield. Ya the 2 handed does more damage but your still hitting with girlie arms.
And while Im thinking about this my random train of thought just passed through. I just realized that nobody on this post has even mentioned darkness rising. You can now cross train in the warrior line and get basic moves. Should make solo a little faster.
I don't know what you people are talking about. ANY healer, with the proper spec, CAN solo. And the Midgard healer is quite able to solo as well. Too many people want to be pac healers for the crowd control, but aug healers are important for groups as well, plus they have a self damage shield and damage add. If you went 43 aug and 32 healing, you will have a 9dps damage add, 9dps damage shield, 64 str/con buff, 17% concentration haste, 31% 20 second group haste (cast right before a fight), baseline buffs, 75% instant single target heal, 50% instant group heal, and the lowest spread heal.
A healer can solo yellows just fine with the damage add, damage shield and killer haste. They have two instant heals if things aren't going well, along with baseling crowd control spell (mes and stun). They are useful in groups for the resist buffs (16 body, spirit, energy), and of course the spread heals and baseline crowd control. Heck, a well decked out aug healer, while they don't need to solo in PvP often, has been know to put a beat down on some poor, unsuspecting assassin who thought they were getting easy RPs.
My brother has both a pac and aug healer, and while he couldn't touch my warlock for clearing task dungeons, it only took him about twice as long which is a whole lot better than many other classes in the game that are lucky to clear a task dungeon at all.
OK now that Im off work I can use my wonderful healer notes. One of my guild mates gave me a copy of this article and if I can I'll try to find the website url cause the way the author typed the entire description for playing a healer left me laughing the entire time.
Quoting from the article:
**the magic numbers**
So, to repeat:
Mending: 30 or 40, no in between
Pacification: 35, 36, or 38
Augmentation: whatever is left.
Some acceptable specs (all specs are related MAP, mending, augmentation, pacification):
Healing Domination: 40/4/36. Huge heals, good purity, AE insta-mezz, heavily reliant on others for damage absorption, though. you'll always need a str/con from your lackeys.
Balanced Domination: 30/23/38. My personal favorite. This spec has celerity, insta-cc, self buffs, and decent heals. you can solo, you can group, you get everything.
Solo spec: 23/30/38 Notice the complete and total lack of spreadheal. This spec is not group friendly, but damn is it fun if you want to solo. High pacification is essential to soloing. You're a healer, so choosing your fights is essential, and insta mezzes are good for getting away, or getting a chance to heal up some more.
Unacceptable spec: 50/20/4. 50 in ANYTHING as a healer is dumb. The class rewards balanced skill line, we're not button mashers like tanks or casters, Healers are the backbone of midgard. You screw up and people die. You spec wrong, and you not only gimp yourself, but every person you ever group with, and that means YOUR ENTIRE REALM. So, no 50 aug, no 50 pac....
Healers are not druids, they're not clerics. Those other main healing classes double as their realms main buffers. OOOOOooooooh! Buffing! High pressure job there! They'd fold like origami if they had to be the main healer, main cc'r and main buffer, and don't let shammies give you any crap about THEM being main buffer. Let's face it, because of the pathetic state of midgard's End Regen, YOU're going to end up buffing the shaman half the time. So who's the main buffing class now, eh?
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Unquote. That should give people a general idea how to spec a healer for solo'n but specs are only a small portion of what you need. Remember not just good armor, but the best you can possibly find, hopefully loaded with procs that damage and heal. Same goes for weapons. Keep a nice one handed hammer and a shield and you can take yellow just as well as anyone else.