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This Just in From CBS News - SOE Sux!
JestorRodo
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The Mail bag article is 10 pages long but well written and puts the smackdown on SOE
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/16/tech/gamecore/main1133791.shtml
Enjoy!
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LOL yeah I saw that hehe.
Hey, does CBS = Cancelled Broadcasting Network?
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
Too funny. Pwned by mainstream media.
I, my family and most of my closest friends and thier family have been on a boycott of Sony and its products for a while now. We are sick and tired of the way Sony treats its customer base and how low product quality is. I think others will be doing the same in the future.
This type of "Business as usual", from companies like Sony and the like arnt any businesses id like to assosiate with. Quality, community and trust is something Sony doesnt stand behind. Hell or even near in my opinion.
FoE Fist of the Empire
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Or how about the all too famous CSR quote "Cant please them all"
I think they could at least try to please some....
FoE Fist of the Empire
Or how about the all too famous CSR quote "Cant please them all"
I think they could at least try to please some....
I believe SOE is just trying to get a xmas bonus (prob a last one as far as SWG goes) out of the rest of the fools parting with some scratch from this months promotions. After that I bet they plan maybe ride it a month or so while they try and come up with some more desperate acts to pull themselfs up out of a huge friggin hole.
In all probability though they will prob ride it for a few months putting in a minimal effort into fixing whats broke in the game and spring some sort of SWG2 on us or something along those lines.
PIRATE LORDS
Actually, they're #1 right now. All those 100 different CSI's finally did it. Not that I'm happy about that fact, but it is a fact ATM.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Once the "It is only a vocal minority" excuse runs out of gas.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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WOW....I think some are going to get a pink slip before christmas...on the back it will say "working as intended"
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No doubt, some of players actually threatened to sue SOE for fraud. Because SOE had no case, they had no choice to give out a refund to avoid more lawsuits against it. the management of SOE knew about the changes that were coming, like the author said, they did that so they dont want to lose half the player base. they wanted to squeeze as much money as they could before they do cancel.
SOE/LA made a big mistake on changing its focus directly to a younger age group. They should have focused with the current model that have been going for years and improve game play. Players who are 18 or so would still come to the game and play it. There are enough potential customers for SOE to work on getting without spoiling the game with the current playerbase. It is a big mistake for SOE to turn its back to their current loyal player base. Never again will anyone go to SOE and play their games, thinking that SOE wasnt loyal to them.
Maybe this is another attempt for SOE to make a game a successful as WoW. When they hear or see that the population of WoW is a million players by the end of January of last year, their eyes get big. Did SOE try shooting for the moon and get their game to a million people as well? I think it is a big mistake for anyone anywhere to shoot for a goal that high. While in fact, WoW is providing a essential part of MMOGs by adding larger customer base, SWG already could have gotten an additional 50,000 or so by people leaving WoW without changing anything.
What SOE did could have sealed its fate with SWG. Im sure alot more then 50,000 people have quit SWG, more like half the playerbase is gone in the first month after the big change. They are betting that new players would come and fill in those who have left. This is a high risk on their part. there is no guarntee for that to happen, while SWG could simply wither down to a player base of 60,000 active subscribers. When it comes time for SOE to realize they made a major mistake on killing off their current player base, they would try kissing ass to get those people back.
Have played: CoH, DDO EQ2, FFXI, L2, HZ, SoR, and WW2 online
I just loved this, it fits the NGE so well.
Ebe ------ SWG -- ShadowFire -- Closed
Ann ----- SWG -- ShadowFire -- Closed
Zoo'xu -- SWG -- ShadowFire -- Closed
Just an FYI,
I went over to CBS's website and submitted a long letter to the author of the article mail bag Mr. Vitka.
I think writing him directly might help to even escalate the news story into an even more prominent news story...maybe we can get a weekend CBS news blurb if we all keep writing....
The thing I emphasised in my letter was the fact that SOE refuses to refund the MANY ppl that paid for up to a year in advace and don't give a damn about the fact that the game changed GENRES! that's much more than "gameplay may change" .....that's a new game and not what was paid for....
anyway... just one voice........of the many thousands.......like the borg...we will assimilate.
FAxx
It's all about the fantasy baby!
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I just find it very sad that Sony bastardized the Star Wars universe. The Star Wars movies are still my favorite movies of all time, but Sony left a bad taste in my mouth with their retardation of the game. And I quit well over a year ago before this mess even showed up! I always said if they had kept Jedi out of the game this would have never happened. But they relied on the setting of the game to override the content (or lack there of).
gg Sony, why don't you just focus on the mindless drones of your console games. We don't want you slathering excrement on anymore MMO's.
This is from the CBS News website....
Best analogy I can come up with for they way they treat their paying customers is as follows... Sony Online Entertainment/LucasArts = Hurricane Katrina, and Star Wars Galaxies subscribers = New Orleans. Be prepared at any time to have the game you purchased in good faith on how it was advertised to be completely changed with little to no notice.
Worst analogy ever. Comparing what happened to the people of New Orleans, with the people that played Star Wars Galaxies is stupid & thoughtless. I'd elaborate further but what's the point?
TwiZzot said . "Worst analogy ever. Comparing what happened to the people of New Orleans, with the people that played Star Wars Galaxies is stupid & thoughtless. I'd elaborate further but what's the point?"
Agreed, that is pretty rude to compare one of the worst natural disasters in U.S. history like Hurricane Katrina to SOE for we all know that Cat 4 hurricanes really blow but SOE really sux.
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You know it's funny.
Who was saying all this 2 years ago?
2 YEARS!
SOE sucks? And for the reasons provided?
OHHHHHHHH EEEFFFFFFFF EEEEENNNNNNN
I at least clearly stated my reasons for thinking the way I did, and they were logical. Jedi, Kashyyyk, Mustafar, CU, and the NGE proved the concept, you never make major changes to a live game. NEVER. Competent development teams know this. I have no sympathy left for those of you that went and did it anyway and are now crying rivers.
Congratulations on needing CBS to tell you what to think. Way to go with all the "sky is falling" mocks. Thanks for the "What does Wepps know?" commentaries.
Now I'm going to tell you exactly the way it is, and you aren't going to like it again. It's fun. It's better than the old system was, and it actually has potential for an inefficient development team to finish it finally. The only reason the veterans are crying, is because SOE took all their work and returned it to 0. Because they made a major change to an MMO.
This is something you don't do, because you end up with what you see in SWG forums all around the globe. Total and complete mob rule.
All the little details of the reasons for the whining, they really don't matter because of the whiney and angry nature of those posts. All the comparisons to cars and lawnmowers, don't matter. Demands for apologies...yeah right.
This is the way it works:
1 - You just don't do this.
2 - If you are going to do this anyway, you had better deliver it in perfect condition.
TRUST and QUALITY drive this industry. SOE has provided neither. So, no matter how fun it is, no matter how much potential it has, nothing is going to stop the Sunset Limited from rolling. They might have actually pulled this off, but their management is some of the dumbest people I have EVER seen! One bad decision after another has led to the worst decision ever made in gaming history, and the people responsible are STILL THERE. After nearly SIX YEARS!
Oh yeah, they can still pull it off, but they can afford the hits in the meantime. If there was any urgency there to do something right it surely doesn't show in the will to replace those that need replacement, and sent back to McNugget stuffing as a living. Although given some of the patches I had to deal with, counting 20 may be out of some of their leagues.
SOE sux? Thanks, CBS, for being 2 years late again on your story. You know, I have pictures of Mount St. Helens to sell you.
As to the whiners, SOE simply is using your griping to their advantage. "Well, look at the quality of this post, this is the kind of people we are losing?" If you're going to complain, at least be literate about it. Provide the reasons. And oh by the way, nobody cares whether or not you're angry with them. The worst thing to do to them is to provide your logical reasons in a neutral format, and shut up. The rest just makes you look like an ass, and does nothing but torpedo your cause.
The flaming, bashing, harassment, and the slander, none of it is having any effect on SOE. But congratulations on looking the fools. If you can't take the heat, then don't put your hand on the hot stove.
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"For one who seeks what he cannot obtain suffers torture; one who has what is not desirable is cheated; and one who does not seek what is worth seeking is diseased." - Augustine of Hippo
I don't care if they point at me all day and night and say they are happy I am gone.
Before I was a happy and loyal customer.
Now I am an angry ex-customer who will flame and bash SOE and Lucas Arts every time I hear their name.
SOE and Lucas Arts can kiss my ass. Point at me and you are pointing at more lost revenue bitches.
"SWG was a world, now it's just a game" -adamrk-
"When the game was good, you didn't have to ask where the population was, because it was everywhere. When the game was good you didn't have to ask which server had population, because they all did. When the game was good you didn't have to beg friends to give it a try, because they were already playing. " - Salty Pete
Wepps.. I just don't see how you think the nge is an improvement. I'm talking at its core. Quests (and their XP tie-in) and added content can't be part of the equasion, because there is NO reason this couldn't have been added to the existing game.
I'm talking the clicky-combat with all the targeting issues. The combat, while it requires more work.. really sucks. It is Battlefront lite-lite-lite. Weapons don't matter.. skill doesn't matter. Mouse-on-target? Yay.
The nge also evicerated the classes. As if the CU wasn't bad enough... now no choice, no changing.
Crafting? useless. Entertainer? Other than WTFPWNing the Vette, they're useless.
You know.. if you came into this game blind, and never knew how diverse the thing WAS.. you might like it for a couple months. But that's like being a Sting fan, and never heard of The Police.
I'm not saying the game before was perfect, but it was engaging. You WORKED towards a goal, and it felt good achieving that goal. The community was vibrant, with some of the best crafters and entertainers.. players creating content, the only drawback was a lack of content.
I pray this game fails.. because of what they dd to the game I loved, and to the players who loved it as well. There was ZERO reason this couldn't have been SWG2. Their arrogence hurt us all, and they deserve to burn for it.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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The "Oops.. I aggroed everything" problem is still very there.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
The "Oops.. I aggroed everything" problem is still very there.
If you're meaning you shoot something and 3 others come along too, that's always been in the game and it makes sense too. If you attacked a lion within a pride, the others are gonna have a go at you too.
If you're talking about the clumping, that's no longer an issue anymore. Things now spread out so theres a good 10m gap or so between them.