there are 5000 solar systems in Eve, each has a "security rating" 1.0 is totally safe, as is .9 , .8 , .7, .6 and .5
- .4 is dangerous but has some protection by NPC "police" at stations and gates. .3, .2, .1 and 0.0 ... You can be "ganked".
If you don't want to, you never have to go to a low (no) security system. It is your choice. There is plenty of room for the Carebear in Eve. There are plenty of Carebears in Eve.
First off, lowrads, nice posts. Don't be afraid to lay your gear on the line. Sure you might lose it, but it's been quoted more than once, "Don't fly what you aren't willing to lose."
After all, it's all just a bunch of visual data. it's not like your house is gonna burn down because you got podded. That's what the insurance is for. So get out there and find some excitement, go blow up a miner or two. You can always build yourself a reputable name AFTER your trial period.
The trial pages, say they're out of keys and hope to have it fixed by Feb 24th. Anyone know if they're getting more keys? It's a bit past the 24th of Feb=P
That was definatly one of the most entertaining noob outreach posts I have ever read, lol great job. I only wish I could watch you in the game, it must be hilarious, especially for frigates. You didnt say much about the covert ops ships though, they're alot of fun to sneak up and kick ppl in the ass without them knowing, it's a bit dishonorable, but who gives a crap? you are a space pilot out in the vast anal cavities of the universe, if you want to rape someone with your cloaked ship, by all means show them the true colors of the rainbow. When I first started playing I followed the tutorial, it was okay but otherwise a waste of time, you can learn most of that stuff on your own. I think what's most fun though is flying up to random ppl and demanding ISK be handed over, and they're like "wtf" and then they see that you just destroyed their sheilds and hull, all the meanwhile you are still crapping missles and ammo at them like some laxative-induced Peter Griffen, usually their following comments are priceless. All in all, having a covert ship and being a sneeky little basterd is far more entertaining than flying straight into another person and realizing that you are about to have your ass handed to you.......provided they have guns and balls....Yea, if this is your first time playing Eve, start the tutorial and leave it when you have enough info about how to stay alive.....otherwise, try Lowrad's method of anti-pussyism, it way more fun.
Nice guide. Although I dislike the fact that it supports the senseless PvP that EVE is so known for and hated for :P But I'll still start a new Trial later and try it out Thanks for a fun guide!
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This really is an excellent guide. Many people enjoy the more peaceful aspects of EVE, but suicidal Tech 1 frigate pvp is an almost unrivalled thrill. I can almost guarantee that to begin with (it still happens to me) any pvp encounter, however it turns out, will leave you shaking with the sheer excitement and adrenaline of it.
Find a couple of like-minded people from your starter corp, head to Syndicate, which is excellent for this kind of thing, and then die repeatedly (while hopefully causing a little bit of collateral damage) until you're shaking too much and have to go and have a lie down. You'll have more fun than you'd think possible.
My main is an alliance pilot, (a character who specializes in performing combat and other tactical duties for an alliance), roleplaying, anti-pirate, give-you-some-ISK, all-round nice bear. While he's learning a 25 day skill, I rolled a trial alt just to mix things up a little.
The goal w/new guy is to PvP asap w/a definite "yarr" slant. Note: While there is content and plenty of things for non-PvPers to do in Eve; the game is, first and foremost - and the devs confirm this on the various videos - a PvP game.
Making a character: It helps if you have a general idea of what you want to try. Why? Well, you can "spec" your skills in such a way that will help you a lot and save days of training time. In my case, for a PvP build, I was able to start w/frigate at lvl 4 - very helpful.
My new Caldari started in a system one jump from Jita - I skipped the tutorial proper, although it is much much better now than it ever has been, and moved on to the tutorial agent. There is some confusion here as those are 2 different entities. After the 10 mission cycle, my implant sold for 1.5 mil, enough to get my key skill books and a Merlin.
A note on skills: Since my goal is to get into PvP asap, I skipped learning skills and went right for the core combat competencies: Electronics, Engineering, Gunnery, Mechanical, Missle, and Navigation. I followed a few simple rules, and while they seem common sense in retrospect, I actually picked up the gist of it from PvP University. I'm only training rank 1, 2, a very few 3s (Propulsion Jamming, Med. Hybrid, Heavy Missle), and one rank 5 (Cald. Cruisers). Working in order, I trained all rank 1's to lvl 1, followed by all rank 2s, ect. Then go back and get rank 1s to lvl 2, rank 2s to lvl 2, ect. This way, in as little time as possible, I'm getting maximum benefit. For trial purposes, no rank 1s will be over lvl 4, no rank 2s over lvl 3, no 3s over 2...I probably will put a couple of levels on the 5 (cruisers) so I can get into a Caracel or even Moa.
Then it was off to the best compromise of an agent I could find: Caldari Navy agent in a 0.5 system on the edge of a string of lowsec systems under the "The" in "The Citadel" on the galactic map...she's Quality Level 14 to boot - perfect.
As my skills develop and in between madly chaining missions for ISK, I start working intelligence on my future prey. First order of business; making insta bookmarks for the lowsec systems, including docking instas and initial safe spots. Next, I start looking through local, picking out the pirates, solo and corp, most of which have biographies that make this ridiciulously easy to do. (The region has a corp of Swiss pirates - now that is just odd). I also note probable industrialists, those who are in stations all the time, and miners. Using the scanner, most of this is done in a clandestine manner...I don't want to be a blip on anyone's radar yet. I sure as hell don't say anything in local.
Once I have the skills to fit a warp scram/jammer and an ECM on my Merlin, I'm off to look for victims in earnest.
As I have no real interest in ganking mining ops, the ratters and other pirates are my main prey. This is when I reach the first stumbling block...indeed, a "well, duh" moment. People solo ratting belts in low sec have ships capabable of doing so. That means cruisers and up. The only peeps in frigates are the other pirates and they're never been seen alone so far - a definite wrench has been tossed into my yarrmachine.
So my options are to keep prowling, hoping to find the lone sucker in a frig or badly set-up cruiser, or go back to ninja grinding missions to bankroll some cruisers. Actually, I think I'll do one until bored of it then do the other. 10 days left on trial, 2 days to cruisers + medium turrets/heavy missles. Yeah, it's going to be alright.
Nice, except that I don't want to get into PVP at the moment. I want to enjoy myself before I get killed and get called a noob. Nice thread for those who want to pvp straight away, but for me the reason I have joined EVE Online is that I want freedom.
Well if you dont want to pvp, well dont. You arent forced to do what this thread says. I'm having fun, and all I have accomplished is getting decimated 3 times by battleships. Kinda screwed my skills at the beginning so I might end up rerolling now that i understand the skills and stuff better.
Interesting info here. Ive been playing EvE for a few days now and just finished the tutorial. In all honesty the little things ive experienced so far are whats keeping me interested. No pvp whatsoever so far. I enjoy running missions and getting the feel of new equipment and new ships. While pvp would be more exciting id like to explore and gain a little experience before I jump into something thats going to gain me enemies. All in all, nice guide tho
Wow... good pointers! I've been in and out of this game since Beta, and each time I come back I learn something more. This is will definitely get people pointed in the right direction to make use of their short time period.
Well you shouldnt have to be "prevented" from doing boring things. The purpose of a game is to enjoy all of it eh? I mean...If I wanna try out a trial of a game, I shouldnt have to follow a guide like what you have, though very informative and nicely done, just to have fun. I want to get into the game, and be like, "Wow, this is fun."
Granted, EVE is probably the most in depth/complicated of the MMO's out there, I guess im just not one for all of that, I prefer not to spend a bunch of time figuring things out, and doing boring this and boring that before finding out the fun stuff, or having to look at a guide to enjoy the fun parts of a game...yep.
Theres my two cents. And another, cause 3 is always better than 2, unless its not...but yeah.
Finally...a fellow gamer with suicidal tendencies.
I haven't even downloaded the trial yet but your thread has just convinced me. I'm curious to see how the ships fly. (I'm used to the old W A S D controls). I'll start with reading the player guide. If I decide to pay the fee I'll frag ya later. thnx
A friend and I started off the trial a week or so ago and we are enjoying it. I have since gotten 2 other RL friends playing and another coming in this weekend. I am anxious to check out the PvP but, call me a carebear, am content with doing missions, making some ISK and building a couple of good ships. 10 hrs to finish skill to get my Cruiser...ahhh yea. To me and my friends, the tutorial was helpful. We are in a good Corp. that just finished the first POS (spacestation)...can't wait to see it...But am gonna be a little patient and get the full feel for the game. But if you wanna try jumping in an ganking some folks, the guide posted should definitely help out.
I am a brand spanky new user and I read through the guide and TBH I didn't understand that much of it. I also don't think I would enjoy it that much after I had lost a couple of ships and couldn't afford any more decent ones. I have finished the tutorial and I am now doing kill missions and I am only just getting to grips with the combat.....maybe you should advise in your tutorial to find a security or command agent and do a few kill missions first before going off to PvP.
It seems that this guide would be more useful to someone who is already experienced with the game :P
Also the implant I was looking at selling last night only seems to be going for about 700.000 now
I tried the tutorial over the last few days. Completed the mission line, sold that implant. Ended up outfitting a Kestel (caldari missile boat) with some cheap crap for the most part, and training up the skills you suggested.
I guess, it's mixed feelings. The game looks cool and all. My main interest is PvP though, and the PvP experience just didn't happen for me, or it hasn't yet anyways. I know I'm a lowbie and all with my weak-ass Kestel missiles-only boat, but I'm really confused as to where exactly to look for pvp that I can handle, just to get that first kill and say "cool, so that is how it goes in this game". I understand the 0.4 to 0.1 is a good place to start, but the map is so huge, I have no clue on ideal areas. I went to some 0.4 zone and it was pretty vacant.
I'm also kinda confused on what to do if I want to subscribe and continue with advancement, from a pvp'ers perspective on how to advance in this game. Like, what should I be trying to get next and such. Is there a more advanced guide? I know some said you may want to start trying to get a destroyer as your next ship or whatnot.
I haven't been able to dig into it myself enough to be satisfied, probably because I'm running around as a lone wolf and don't have friends playing the game that are in a corporation. The tutorial was cool and all. I guess it could be considered a cool preview? But I still have 10 more days of trial left that I want to dig into this game with, and I really don't know what to do next.
Anyways, if I don't end up finding out how to keep going and having fun in this game, it was fun playing the trial to the OP's plan.
Originally posted by Frenzi I would suggest you go do some kill missions from a Command or Security agent......make some moolah and skill up a bit
I've tried a few of these command or security agent missions now, and twice they gave me missions with bookmarks that just sent me to deadspace. Like one was to Jita deadspace. So I got there and the guy i was supposed to kill wasn't on the overview. I went to every station in that system and didn't find him. That happened on two seperate missions.
On the other hand, I took one mission that gave me a bookmark to a more specific location and the enemy was there when I got there. Why aren't all the missions like that? Are you actually supposed to roam station to station looking for the enemy on some of these missions or are they just bugged?
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Can I get something cleared up?
I have a Kestrel. I have a warp jammer and a stasis webifier, as well as an afterburner.
Should I put four rocket launchers on it, or missle launchers?
lol @ all the concern about EvE being a gankfest.
there are 5000 solar systems in Eve, each has a "security rating" 1.0 is totally safe, as is .9 , .8 , .7, .6 and .5
- .4 is dangerous but has some protection by NPC "police" at stations and gates. .3, .2, .1 and 0.0 ... You can be "ganked".
If you don't want to, you never have to go to a low (no) security system. It is your choice. There is plenty of room for the Carebear in Eve. There are plenty of Carebears in Eve.
First off, lowrads, nice posts. Don't be afraid to lay your gear on the line. Sure you might lose it, but it's been quoted more than once, "Don't fly what you aren't willing to lose."
After all, it's all just a bunch of visual data. it's not like your house is gonna burn down because you got podded.
That's what the insurance is for. So get out there and find some excitement, go blow up a miner or two. You can always build yourself a reputable name AFTER your trial period.
I only wish I could watch you in the game, it must be hilarious, especially for frigates. You didnt say much about the covert ops ships though, they're alot of fun to sneak up and kick ppl in the ass without them knowing, it's a bit dishonorable, but who gives a crap? you are a space pilot out in the vast anal cavities of the universe, if you want to rape someone with your cloaked ship, by all means show them the true colors of the rainbow. When I first started playing I followed the tutorial, it was okay but otherwise a waste of time, you can learn most of that stuff on your own. I think what's most fun though is flying up to random ppl and demanding ISK be handed over, and they're like "wtf" and then they see that you just destroyed their sheilds and hull, all the meanwhile you are still crapping missles and ammo at them like some laxative-induced Peter Griffen, usually their following comments are priceless. All in all, having a covert ship and being a sneeky little basterd is far more entertaining than flying straight into another person and realizing that you are about to have your ass handed to you.......provided they have guns and balls....Yea, if this is your first time playing Eve, start the tutorial and leave it when you have enough info about how to stay alive.....otherwise, try Lowrad's method of anti-pussyism, it way more fun.
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This really is an excellent guide. Many people enjoy the more peaceful aspects of EVE, but suicidal Tech 1 frigate pvp is an almost unrivalled thrill. I can almost guarantee that to begin with (it still happens to me) any pvp encounter, however it turns out, will leave you shaking with the sheer excitement and adrenaline of it.
Find a couple of like-minded people from your starter corp, head to Syndicate, which is excellent for this kind of thing, and then die repeatedly (while hopefully causing a little bit of collateral damage) until you're shaking too much and have to go and have a lie down. You'll have more fun than you'd think possible.
My main is an alliance pilot, (a character who specializes in performing combat and other tactical duties for an alliance), roleplaying, anti-pirate, give-you-some-ISK, all-round nice bear. While he's learning a 25 day skill, I rolled a trial alt just to mix things up a little.
The goal w/new guy is to PvP asap w/a definite "yarr" slant. Note: While there is content and plenty of things for non-PvPers to do in Eve; the game is, first and foremost - and the devs confirm this on the various videos - a PvP game.
Making a character: It helps if you have a general idea of what you want to try. Why? Well, you can "spec" your skills in such a way that will help you a lot and save days of training time. In my case, for a PvP build, I was able to start w/frigate at lvl 4 - very helpful.
My new Caldari started in a system one jump from Jita - I skipped the tutorial proper, although it is much much better now than it ever has been, and moved on to the tutorial agent. There is some confusion here as those are 2 different entities. After the 10 mission cycle, my implant sold for 1.5 mil, enough to get my key skill books and a Merlin.
A note on skills: Since my goal is to get into PvP asap, I skipped learning skills and went right for the core combat competencies: Electronics, Engineering, Gunnery, Mechanical, Missle, and Navigation. I followed a few simple rules, and while they seem common sense in retrospect, I actually picked up the gist of it from PvP University. I'm only training rank 1, 2, a very few 3s (Propulsion Jamming, Med. Hybrid, Heavy Missle), and one rank 5 (Cald. Cruisers). Working in order, I trained all rank 1's to lvl 1, followed by all rank 2s, ect. Then go back and get rank 1s to lvl 2, rank 2s to lvl 2, ect. This way, in as little time as possible, I'm getting maximum benefit. For trial purposes, no rank 1s will be over lvl 4, no rank 2s over lvl 3, no 3s over 2...I probably will put a couple of levels on the 5 (cruisers) so I can get into a Caracel or even Moa.
Then it was off to the best compromise of an agent I could find: Caldari Navy agent in a 0.5 system on the edge of a
string of lowsec systems under the "The" in "The Citadel" on the galactic map...she's Quality Level 14 to boot - perfect.
As my skills develop and in between madly chaining missions for ISK, I start working intelligence on my future prey. First order of business; making insta bookmarks for the lowsec systems, including docking instas and initial safe spots. Next, I start looking through local, picking out the pirates, solo and corp, most of which have biographies that make this ridiciulously easy to do. (The region has a corp of Swiss pirates - now that is just odd). I also note probable industrialists, those who are in stations all the time, and miners. Using the scanner, most of this is done in a clandestine manner...I don't want to be a blip on anyone's radar yet. I sure as hell don't say anything in local.
Once I have the skills to fit a warp scram/jammer and an ECM on my Merlin, I'm off to look for victims in earnest.
As I have no real interest in ganking mining ops, the ratters and other pirates are my main prey. This is when I reach the first stumbling block...indeed, a "well, duh" moment. People solo ratting belts in low sec have ships capabable of doing so. That means cruisers and up. The only peeps in frigates are the other pirates and they're never been seen alone so far - a definite wrench has been tossed into my yarrmachine.
So my options are to keep prowling, hoping to find the lone sucker in a frig or badly set-up cruiser, or go back to ninja grinding missions to bankroll some cruisers. Actually, I think I'll do one until bored of it then do the other. 10 days left on trial, 2 days to cruisers + medium turrets/heavy missles. Yeah, it's going to be alright.
Well you shouldnt have to be "prevented" from doing boring things. The purpose of a game is to enjoy all of it eh? I mean...If I wanna try out a trial of a game, I shouldnt have to follow a guide like what you have, though very informative and nicely done, just to have fun. I want to get into the game, and be like, "Wow, this is fun."
Granted, EVE is probably the most in depth/complicated of the MMO's out there, I guess im just not one for all of that, I prefer not to spend a bunch of time figuring things out, and doing boring this and boring that before finding out the fun stuff, or having to look at a guide to enjoy the fun parts of a game...yep.
Theres my two cents. And another, cause 3 is always better than 2, unless its not...but yeah.
Finally...a fellow gamer with suicidal tendencies.
I haven't even downloaded the trial yet but your thread has just convinced me. I'm curious to see how the ships fly. (I'm used to the old W A S D controls). I'll start with reading the player guide. If I decide to pay the fee I'll frag ya later. thnx
I am a brand spanky new user and I read through the guide and TBH I didn't understand that much of it. I also don't think I would enjoy it that much after I had lost a couple of ships and couldn't afford any more decent ones. I have finished the tutorial and I am now doing kill missions and I am only just getting to grips with the combat.....maybe you should advise in your tutorial to find a security or command agent and do a few kill missions first before going off to PvP.
It seems that this guide would be more useful to someone who is already experienced with the game :P
Also the implant I was looking at selling last night only seems to be going for about 700.000 now
I tried the tutorial over the last few days. Completed the mission line, sold that implant. Ended up outfitting a Kestel (caldari missile boat) with some cheap crap for the most part, and training up the skills you suggested.
I guess, it's mixed feelings. The game looks cool and all. My main interest is PvP though, and the PvP experience just didn't happen for me, or it hasn't yet anyways. I know I'm a lowbie and all with my weak-ass Kestel missiles-only boat, but I'm really confused as to where exactly to look for pvp that I can handle, just to get that first kill and say "cool, so that is how it goes in this game". I understand the 0.4 to 0.1 is a good place to start, but the map is so huge, I have no clue on ideal areas. I went to some 0.4 zone and it was pretty vacant.
I'm also kinda confused on what to do if I want to subscribe and continue with advancement, from a pvp'ers perspective on how to advance in this game. Like, what should I be trying to get next and such. Is there a more advanced guide? I know some said you may want to start trying to get a destroyer as your next ship or whatnot.
I haven't been able to dig into it myself enough to be satisfied, probably because I'm running around as a lone wolf and don't have friends playing the game that are in a corporation. The tutorial was cool and all. I guess it could be considered a cool preview? But I still have 10 more days of trial left that I want to dig into this game with, and I really don't know what to do next.
Anyways, if I don't end up finding out how to keep going and having fun in this game, it was fun playing the trial to the OP's plan.
On the other hand, I took one mission that gave me a bookmark to a more specific location and the enemy was there when I got there. Why aren't all the missions like that? Are you actually supposed to roam station to station looking for the enemy on some of these missions or are they just bugged?