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I like SoG.

dakariosdakarios Member Posts: 13

Just to put a stance against all the negativity on this forum:

I actually do like SoG and enjoy playing so far


I am not sure what everyone else expected, but SoG just is a piece of the DnL beta - despite anything Farlan stated before.
I have beta-played almost every MMORPG so far, and SoG/DnL is doing pretty fine in comparison.

Anarchy Online, one of today's most successful and renowned MMORPGs, has been practically unplayable for days if not weeks after release (that what is to come for SoG/DnL in April 2006!)
Other MMORPGs from huge multi-million dollar companies like Turbine or Verant/SOE didn't perform better than that in the beginning.

If you keep in mind this is just a preview of what is to come in almost half a year from now, the game offers a lot of fun for those who enjoy
- exploring the vast land- and watermass
- enjoying the beautiful views
- flying with their dragon or glider, eventually doing parachutes
- snowboarding, making contests with several teams of players just like I saw one hour before on a mountain
- listening to the outstanding in-game music that digs out every other MMORPG score

If you, however, expected a fully playable and complete MMORPG almost half a year before its official release, you will be disappointed. Just like all the players of Anarchy Online, of Asheron's Call, of SWG who couldn't fully enjoy their MMORPGs days/weeks after release.

The difference, fortunately: SoG is not the final release. ::::04::


Time to reduce the whining a bit.
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  • Loverboy85Loverboy85 Member UncommonPosts: 65
    SoG is NOT a beta! they have stated many times that sog is a stand alone game that is NOT A ****NG BETA! STOP DEFENDING THIS P.O.S image
  • dakariosdakarios Member Posts: 13

    Nonsens.

    SoG is a slightly polished portion of the DnL-beta, and if you have thought anything else, I am sorry for your naivity.

  • FadeFade Member Posts: 419

    nice post. i actually find DnL relaxing to play even more so now that they fixed the server problems.

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444


    Originally posted by dakarios
    Nonsens.SoG is a slightly polished portion of the DnL-beta, and if you have thought anything else, I am sorry for your naivity.

    ahhh so because you say it is a beta it is. Even if the ones that are actually making the game say otherwise. What could we have been thinking. Believing the actual developers over you. Crazy eh? ::::12::

    They say it's not a beta. So it's not a beta. I don't care what you say. This isn't your game it's theirs. So just keep saying beta over and over. Doesn't change the fact that you are still wrong.

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  • lightningorblightningorb Member Posts: 17

    well dakarios the problem with your argument is they said it was not a beta.
    What the fanbois dont realise is that we are trying to warn people about the game. Dont forget many people paid 60$ for what is essentially a beta, despite being told otherwise.
    What we are saying is if they think the pre-game is ready and it has this many problems - what the hell will the final game be like?
    I cant believe people are defending the developers. If it is a beta - call it a beta!
    Or at least do what Roma Victor (of which im not a fan) did and tell people that they are buying into a beta and it will be buggy. That is fair.
    Not lying to people. What people like you dont understand is how can you trust a development team that has lied to people from the start and is inept?

  • VonbekVonbek Member Posts: 53


    Originally posted by Fade
    nice post. i actually find DnL relaxing to play even more so now that they fixed the server problems.

    I'm curious, how exactly do you "play" SOG? From my experience the only entertainment of note was flying the dragon which lasted me about 10-15 minutes. There is essentially no content in this game and combat is laughable.

  • angus858angus858 Member UncommonPosts: 381
    I "play" by exploring the lands and the game mechanics, by developing my character, and by chatting with other players while I do those things.  I don't think this will ever be the sort of game that's enjoyable for people who want their content fed to them from a spoon.  There are lots of other games out there which cater to that style.  I've played most of them but right now I'd rather play SoG.  I think I'll go see if the server is up. <crosses fingers>
  • DrSmaShDrSmaSh Member UncommonPosts: 454


    Originally posted by Roinahhh so because you say it is a beta it is. Even if the ones that are actually making the game say otherwise. What could we have been thinking. Believing the actual developers over you. Crazy eh? ::::12::They say it's not a beta. So it's not a beta. I don't care what you say. This isn't your game it's theirs. So just keep saying beta over and over. Doesn't change the fact that you are still wrong.

    ahhhh so becouse devs say it's not beta it isn't? So devs say "our game kics ass zmog buy it!" and even so every web site and magazin said that game is pile of crap you will buy it becouse devs said so - becouse it's there game and what ever they say about it is absolut truth.


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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646


    Originally posted by dakarios
    JSoG is not the final release. ::::04::

    We know that. We also know that this was one of the most crappy pre alpha releases this world has ever seen. It has been in development for 5 year. 5 YEARS. And what do they come up with after 5 years? A client that barely can run for more than 5 minutes without crashing with serious errors. A game engine that is so hopelessly outdated and hasn't undergone a single form of optimization. It was horrible. They have managed to make it more stable now, but when everyone is done with the "Be able to run the game for more than 5 minutes without a crash" event, where is the real event? Sog was meant to be a "lore" event, for these lucky early players to precreate some of the DnL world. I haven't seen anything of it yet. 1 bloddy quest that isn't a real quest since it horrible bugged.

    The games you keep comparing Sog to where released before they started developing it. Come into the reality m8. It's the year 2005. People play games that where technically in better shape in their betas last year than DnL/Sog will ever be. It's EQ2, Wow, Gw, DDO, Lotro and those you have to compare Sog too. It's like comparing Doom 3's visuals with Wolfenstein 3d.

  • tsr57tsr57 Member Posts: 187

    "I don't think this will ever be the sort of game that's enjoyable for people who want their content fed to them from a spoon."

    but there is no content.. image

  • bratspankerbratspanker Member Posts: 3

    In spite of bugs and instability, I´m having a blast. Havent logged in Eq2 or UO since launch. 

  • johnyspiperjohnyspiper Member Posts: 77

    Actually the software in the SoG folder (the patcher,exe files) If you look at the properties/Version/File Version it says "Beta test" I dont think the devs/programers put that there on accident. And there is no way it's not beta test after looking at that... Sadly I dont get to play I just d/led it to be ready when the next invites go out next year... erm some time later down the road.

  • Pulsar7Pulsar7 Member Posts: 9


    Originally posted by lightningorb

    I cant believe people are defending the developers. If it is a beta - call it a beta!
    Or at least do what Roma Victor (of which im not a fan) did and tell people that they are buying into a beta and it will be buggy. That is fair.
    Not lying to people. What people like you dont understand is how can you trust a development team that has lied to people from the start and is inept?

    Yes, exactly. We the fans/followers of this game's development have been lied to, mislead and fed copious amounts of misinformation. Not to mention the totally non-existant support now the game/beta/whatever is live.

    As to the argument that this is not a beta because the devs said so is ridiculous, moreso for the reasons stated above. Falrlan lie like it's going out of fashion.

    In my 'objective' oppinion this game is an alpha. It beggers belif they could release this PoS under the guise of a 'game'

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546

    I am so hoping that the Devs get their heads out of their collective asses and fix this game ASAP.
    Do not see this game able to have what the Devs are promising to deliver to arrive by April.
    Just hope this game do not go down in history like Irth Online and even worst ... Mourning.

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  • clinteastclinteast Member UncommonPosts: 159


    Originally posted by Phoenixs
    Originally posted by dakarios
    JSoG is not the final release. ::::04::

    We know that. We also know that this was one of the most crappy pre alpha releases this world has ever seen. It has been in development for 5 year. 5 YEARS. And what do they come up with after 5 years? A client that barely can run for more than 5 minutes without crashing with serious errors. A game engine that is so hopelessly outdated and hasn't undergone a single form of optimization. It was horrible. They have managed to make it more stable now, but when everyone is done with the "Be able to run the game for more than 5 minutes without a crash" event, where is the real event? Sog was meant to be a "lore" event, for these lucky early players to precreate some of the DnL world. I haven't seen anything of it yet. 1 bloddy quest that isn't a real quest since it horrible bugged.

    The games you keep comparing Sog to where released before they started developing it. Come into the reality m8. It's the year 2005. People play games that where technically in better shape in their betas last year than DnL/Sog will ever be. It's EQ2, Wow, Gw, DDO, Lotro and those you have to compare Sog too. It's like comparing Doom 3's visuals with Wolfenstein 3d.


    DDO LOTRO is not out so how can u compare? Oh ur going off the graphics? Graphics dont make a game my friend.

    Each person has their own taste. If you dont like the game or can not see the potential then bugger off i say matey.

    And ur commenting on SOG when it has only been released for how long a week. So what if they dont have quests yet? Maybe they got bigger problems with the crashes etc than implementing quests or maybe u have to find npcs with quest. This aint EQ2 or WoW.

    People come in here and bitch and moan about a FREE game. If it not to your liking then go play something that is. Its as simple as that mate.

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  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546

    [quote]Originally posted by clinteastPeople come in here and bitch and moan about a FREE game. If it not to your liking then go play something that is. Its as simple as that mate.[/b][/quote]


    Well for the 8,881 Pioneers it is not a free game.
    I know some will contradict this but think about it.
    For the unhappy Pioneer they cannot get a refund?
    Why is this? Because they have activated their Pioneer Account.

    So for the Pioneers they have paid for BOTH SOG and DnL technically.

    PS:
    I am a disgruntled & unhappy Pioneer that cannot get a refund

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  • PhoenixsPhoenixs Member Posts: 2,646


    Originally posted by clinteast
    Originally posted by Phoenixs
    Originally posted by dakarios
    JSoG is not the final release. ::::04::

    We know that. We also know that this was one of the most crappy pre alpha releases this world has ever seen. It has been in development for 5 year. 5 YEARS. And what do they come up with after 5 years? A client that barely can run for more than 5 minutes without crashing with serious errors. A game engine that is so hopelessly outdated and hasn't undergone a single form of optimization. It was horrible. They have managed to make it more stable now, but when everyone is done with the "Be able to run the game for more than 5 minutes without a crash" event, where is the real event? Sog was meant to be a "lore" event, for these lucky early players to precreate some of the DnL world. I haven't seen anything of it yet. 1 bloddy quest that isn't a real quest since it horrible bugged.

    The games you keep comparing Sog to where released before they started developing it. Come into the reality m8. It's the year 2005. People play games that where technically in better shape in their betas last year than DnL/Sog will ever be. It's EQ2, Wow, Gw, DDO, Lotro and those you have to compare Sog too. It's like comparing Doom 3's visuals with Wolfenstein 3d.


    DDO LOTRO is not out so how can u compare? Oh ur going off the graphics? Graphics dont make a game my friend.

    Each person has their own taste. If you dont like the game or can not see the potential then bugger off i say matey.

    And ur commenting on SOG when it has only been released for how long a week. So what if they dont have quests yet? Maybe they got bigger problems with the crashes etc than implementing quests or maybe u have to find npcs with quest. This aint EQ2 or WoW.

    People come in here and bitch and moan about a FREE game. If it not to your liking then go play something that is. Its as simple as that mate.


    Hmm did you even read what I wrote. He was comparing this dnl beta to betas that existed 5 years ago. You can't do that. If you wanna compare you have to compare to games currently in beta. DDO and lotro are currently in beta. There is a free DDO stress test going on these days.

    Did I mention graphics?

    Sog is being promoted as a event to settle the world of Ganareth. Would be natural with some content?

    And it's not free for all.

  • clinteastclinteast Member UncommonPosts: 159

    Well i am sure they can do something about it. One of the posters in here called Redrab i think was his name was suggesting they can do something if they are not happy.

    However i guess the 8881 buying the game on blind faith will just have to hope the game is finished in April 06.

    I think some people had high expectations of SOG.

    I for one when i play games tend to kill things over and over. This game tho up to now has give me the opportunity to explore. Whether it be by dragon/glider/horse etc it makes me to want to traverse the land. Not many games i remember u can go anywhere with no restrictions.

    Anyway as the poster originally said its not to everyones liking.

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  • RedRabRedRab Member UncommonPosts: 280

    If you have paid and wish a refund then you can:

    1. Approach DnL customer services for a refund.
    2. If you get no joy apply for a refund through Click and Buy, this should work especially in the UK/Europe.
    3. If you *still* get no joy approach your card company for a refund and they will do a charge back.

    Franky I agree with clinteast. If you are unhappy but *did not pay anything* then simply move on and play something *you do like*. Please free up this forum for those who *actually play the game* to discuss things. I cannot understand for the life of me why somebody would constantly hang around a forum dedicated to a game they *did not pay for* just to perpetually bitch and whine about it. It seems extremely strange behaviour to me. Surely the people who got a *free SoG account* and hate it have better things to do with their time? There are a plethora of other games to play, other betas to try!

    If you did pay, however, and feel you were mislead about the game, cannot connect or simply dislike what you have seen and doubt the game will reach fruition then work through the the three steps above. I don't see any need for the hysterics that still seem to permeate this forum. Either get your refund if you have paid, or move on if you are playing for free and dislike the game so intensely.

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