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is anyone actually waitin for LoTR online??
surjstrife
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i am..but it jsut doesnt seem as hyped as i thought it would be..it tolkein right??then it should be the best thing to hit fantasy in..forever..i hear it gonna be based off the books and not the movies,so u can see where they want to go with this game..they are making it for true fans of tokein i beleive...What do u think about the game..are u waiting for it to come out?
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A while ago I thought it had potential. Good graphics, storyline, different races... yada yada yada.
And then I read it featured instances. Puts me right off.
Instances don't bother me if the load times are quick, what does bother me about this game? No mounts. No mounts!? In the LOTR universe having no mounts is like peanut butter with no jelly. Yeah you can still eat it, but it's missing a key ingredient so it tastes like crap.
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Im not really waiting although I have nothing against. I think it has potential so long as it doesnt go on the Guild Wars style of instancing. I really disliked that. I like to have a common world where you can meet people (I dont mind if there are 500 people in a zone like lets say EQ2 it makes a second ver. of the zone) and dungeons can be instanced thats fine with me that way I get the full experience of the dungeon. But I dont know much about the game so Im waiting
Let me think.... mhm ....... no.
Just no.
Thats it.
Get on, nothing to see here.
The game looks interesting but iop it lost alot of hype and seems to keep dragging on the release.
I have very little interest in this game.
The first thing that annoyed me was no PvP. No, I'm not a major PvPer, but I still enjoy the occasional rumble. To me, a game where good and evil clashes, and there's no PvP is kind of off. I fully understand why there's no PvP, but I still think that as a game it needs it.
I also don't like instances that much.
I'm watching it's progress but there are several things that the development team has done that makes me very skeptical about what kind of game it will be. I will certainly NOT be buying it without playing a RETAIL free trial of the game first:
1) Turbine is producing it. I've SEEN what they did with DDO and am not impressed. I also saw the garbage that was AC2. So far they are batting .5 for 3 in my book (AC1 was a half decent game).
2) No PVP in a Good vs. Evil game
3) No alignment system? In a good vs. evil game??? What?
4) Did I mention Turbine is producing it?
5) Err Turbine again... sorry....
Can you tell I don't have a lot of faith in Turbine's ability to pull this off?
If you want to see a TEXT BASED MUD that does Tolkien RIGHT (talking concepts, not graphics obviously) check out MUME (Multi Users in Middle Earth): http://mume.pvv.org/
If LOTRO had even HALF of the features that this 15 year old MUD has then it would be a HUGE success. The fact that this mud has survived for 15 years should tell you just how absolutely good it is.
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Here are the reasons why MEO/LotRO will fail:
1. It is far, far, toooo late to bank off the advertising from the 3 movies. Talk about "early bird missing the worm" on that one! 3 movies come out, then each movie has its DVD release. And they WAIT until it is all over before even starting to make a mmorpg? One can tell that the mmorpg was simply a casual thought by some moneyman/suit and tie, "Geee I see EQ, DAoC, AC, UO" and other Tolkien-ish mmorpgs making money - maybe if I now invest in an official Tolkien mmorpg it will make incredible investment returns! Yeah!"
SWG, is the most obvious example of one of the worse cases of MISSED marketing oppertunities! Not a single mention of SWG the mmorpg during the movie trailors, or movie. Nor on the DVDs!?!?
2. Turbine, the company making MEO/LotRO, is attempting to make TWO mmorpgs at the same time. DDO as well as MEO/LotRO. No company in their right mind, or wrong mind, would even think of such a horrible business move. Not only will MEO/LotRO be compeating vs the tons of competition already out there, and about to get released (like the MIGHTY Vanguard!) - but it will be compeating vs another new mmorpg game released by the SAME company at the same time!
3. Turbine is an ailing mmorpg company. Yes AC was (and still is) a NICE mmorpg. It had loads of intresting features. But Turbine sold itself to MicroSoft, which compleatly destroyed Turbine. Later selling Turbine back to itself - after bombing with AC2. One of the biggest, longest, bombs in mmorpg history to the tune of 25 million wasted. Turbine has now taken loans against its only success, AC1, in order to make both DDO and MEO/LotRO. The profits from AC were used to keep AC2 on life support. When MEO/LotRO fails, will it pull AC down with it? Will DDO also fail? If both mmorpgs fail, will the combined double failure at the same time put Turbine into bankruptcy?
4. MEO/LotRO has already been done in a mmorpg. Every single thing in the Lord of the Rings books is IN EverQuest! The entire Tree Elf city Lothlorien, (still at present time a mind boggling sight to see and experience!!) in exact detail perfectly described by J.R.R. Tolkien. The Misty Mountains, Rivingdale, the Shire, the different languages the various races speak, the lore behind the races, and much, much, more. The only thing EQ did not put in was a specific quest for a ring. Any Tolkien fan looking to experience Lord of the Rings online in a mmorpg will feel perfectly at home in EverQuest.
In additon, EQ is still right now being sold in stores. On prime shelf space. EQ will still be sold right next to MEO/LotRO. What is the draw to playing MEO/LotRO?
5. MEO/LotRO will have to make it past 1 year of release, with at minimum of 50,000 accounts, to have any chance in heaven, or hell, of re-couping its investment money.
Soooo..... what IS the draw to playing MEO/LotRO? Be a ranger? Visit the Shire? Visit Rivingdale? Visit the Misty Mountains? Be a High Man? Visit Moria? Be a female Dwarf with a beard? Visit Lothlorien? ALL of this can be done, HAS been done... successfully in .... EverQuest.
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I am no longer even following its development.
Once DDO is released they will begin to ramp up the development speed of LotRO.
They will probably make a profit off both games due to "name recognition."
I have doubts I will play either.
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Nope, its gonna suck.
Proof? Matrix Online and Star Wars Galaxies.
GG? GG.
Um... I'm sorry? You obviously haven't done your homework. MEO (it's original name) was actually in development YEARS ago by another dev team. This was BEFORE the 1st movie came out, by the way. That team couldn't get it done to the Tolkien Foundation's standards (they're a VERY picky bunch) and got sacked.
Then another team picked it up... got sacked and replaced by Turbine. Who then picked it up right around the time the 3rd movie came out. Then they made a BUNCH of changes (around the time the 3rd DVD came out) and now they're finally nearing release.
The OWNER (Tolkien Foundation) was the problem with timing, not the dev teams. But yes, they definitely missed their best window of opportunity. That said, however, this IS Tolkien we're talking about
Easily the BEST KNOWN fantasy triology of all time. So no matter WHEN they release they'll get plenty of publicity.
Erm... they had an international TV Add campaign for it. That's not enough visibility for you?
Agree. But I don't think Vanguard is going to be as big a competition as people give it credit for. I think it'll do well if it delivers what it's promising (and I have no reason to doubt... Brad ran a strong project for EQ in the past, no reason to think this'll be different) but I don't think it's really going to be a huge issue for a title like LOTRO. The bigger issue is that Turbine has shown time and time again that they have trouble marketting any game properly.
It won't fail. But it won't succeed on the level that they're going to be expecting. Simply because of the design decisions they have made it won't do as well as it should. It WILL succeed, however, on name recognition if nothing else. SWG was successful for 2.5 years (and probably still will be despite the NGE fiasco). That alone should show you that with big names like this you really CANT go wrong... you can just go lesser degrees of 'right'. No... LOTRO won't kill Turbine... problem is it'll perpetuate the current problem with MMORPG companies not putting forward their best work.
Nah EQ is more like AD&D than LOTR
Remember that wood elves in AD&D lived in "tree cities". The tree city in EQ is nothing like Lothlorien. A flet didn't have houses on it in Tolkien.
Erm... because it'll say "Lord of the Rings" on the box. It will sell... that's a given. Just like SWG kept 250,000 subscribers for years despite shoddy devs and crap support from SOE and broken promises and 3 complete rewrites of the damn game. LOTRO is probably going to wind up in a similar situation. I guarantee it'll be more successful than AC1, on pure name recognition if nothing else. As long as Turbine keeps the damn thing on store shelves anyway (they're notoriously bad about neglecting to maintain shelf presence).
This will not be an issue. It's got huge name recognition. If nothing else it will recoup it's cost in box sales to the unsuspecting. If it's even half decent enough people will play it just because it's tolkien to keep it afloat. Just like SWG (as mentioned above).
Again: It'll succeed simply because it's tolkien. That's not to say it'll be GOOD. But it will succeed to some extent or other.
Will it be worth playing? Probably not, imo. But people WILL play it. Hell... people are playing the NGE after all.
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I was. But i read some dev chats, and now not so much.
No PvP. (WTF?)
Only good side is playabul. (OMFGWTF!)
Its sad. LOTR has the best set up for a PvP online mmorpg, and they totaly disguared the essance of the story. Good vs Bad.....but noooo, only good can we be. Would allmost think the game is made buy christian fanatics how picture pirfect they have made it....BAH.
Thank the gods for AGE OF CONAN!
Two words, bar fights!
Bring on Age of Conan!
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I think it's just too early to really see any hype. Wait until closer to release date. You got to remember, it is Lord of the Rings. It's going to get some hype and publicity when it gets closer to being done. I looked at some of the screenshots and it looks pretty nice to me.
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It all seems so stupid
It makes me want to give up
But why should I give up
When it all seems so stupid
the one and only reason I won't touch this game is the name: The lord of the rings
for one reason, the community. I already get annoyed like hell by Logales, Leggolazz, Legolaz0r in WoW, don't even want to know how that will be in Lotr Online.
no way I'm going to play an mmorpg with those people
"general chat:ArrAg0rn: KK, i n33d t3h one rign where is it rofl? plz tell me!"
"general chat:Legggg0laz:In my pants LOLroflpwnd!!11"
"general:Gimlei:KK wh0 wants my stuff!!?? i'm quitting, mom doesn't want to give me her credit card anymore T_T"
no, just no!
Yes we know, you love PVP and think it's mandatory for a game to succeed.
Point of fact:
It is Lord of the Rings Online
It will not fail due to that simple fact.
I don't plan to play it. But I'm not niave enough to believe that it'll fail just because it has no PVP. It will survive on name recognition, if nothing else. If it's on shelves there will be plenty of people who buy it just because it's Tolkien.
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I was awaiting this game about 2 years ago, the release has been put off for far too long, and umm, instances, no mounts, no PvP, not that i care about PvP, but duels are fun...
Its just the fact of this guys, when you really look at it, How much could you possibly do in LOTR ONLINE if you can do nothing but PvE grind and im not impressed with what craftign system they are setting up. I'm guessing they are expecting everyone to just sit in town and Roleplay, the fact is Turbine has become known for making BIG NAME MMO's probally because the name they firgure will sell the game on its own.
Which isnt enough in the long run, i believe they need to rethink what they are doing, and if they wont redo their work, then they should focus on the Roleplaying Factor of this game, cause that will be the only, THE ONLY THING, that will keep players intrested in this game, cause people will soon realize that the quests of delivering carrots to Samsee Bigfeet, and the same quest of helping the ring bearer that everyone else gets a little old, and the Instances in this game that they will be Focusing on, will take away from the ROLE PLAYING, will just end up killing itself, i mean it just doesnt make sense to me at all, its like this is all they had to work with.
(INSIDE TURBINE HQ)
1. LIKE OMG WE BOUGHT THE RIGHTS TO MAKE (in other words they were going to build this game for the lowest amount of pay)
2. WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH LOTRO?! (they will say they are making it from the books to attract an actual dedicated fan base up to beta)
3.Beta testing starts. (people try out the tests, realize what i have said about little content, I mean how much could there be to do in Middle Earth, they arent implementing anything different from any other MMO out there today.)
4. It begins to get bad reviews after NDA is lifted
5. People are lied to, it wasnt built around the books, but the moives, they dumb up the gameplay like WoW, next thing you know its on sale at Wal-Mart for $9.95
6. First day of launch, commercials on t.v. ads in stores the works, gathers a newer fan base quickly.
7. The game becomes a short term success to most people, then everything will begin to fall into place.
8. The newer player base will find what the older fan base already had seen, no new content, how little there was to do, either they will make travel incredibly long, since no mounts, or the world will be very small, killing the game experiance.
9. People will begin to cancel their accounts, Turbine will poopy in their pants, and pull the plug.
10. A real MMO company such as SIGIL buys the rights, and does it right.
The End.
REMEMBER A NAME CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH DON'T RELY COMPLETELY ON JUST THAT TURBINE WAKE UP AND PICK SOMETHING, CATER TO THE ROLEPLAYERS, THAT IS YOUR BEST HOPE. OR YOU CAN NewB it up AND make your PLAYER BASE 13 year olds, by the millions. But rmemeber then you will have to compete with WoW. TRY OFFERING SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE DOES AT LEAST ONE THING MY GOD THIS IS SUCH A DISSAPOINTMENT!!!!!!
I'v been hyped up for LOTRO for about two years now, and ever since a few months ago that anticipation has only been growing. the latest videos show some of the best visuals I've ever seen in ANY online game- forget just catering to Tolkien fans.
We could have stopped the thread here.... My first expirence with Turbine was AC2, and after being whiplashed by the "Rubber Band Game" as many called it, I left running and will never look back.
Not having PVP is so retarded in so many ways and just shows this companys lazyness.
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You are an ignorant buffoon. I have not attended any of the Turbine events when LOTRO's gameplay was made available to the public, so I can't personally comment on it.
Did you really think you could just hop on the hate bandwagon with a stupid taunt like that?
Is it just me or does anyone else think LOTR online is going to flop HARD i mean its gunna be another Turbine AC2 release for a year or whatever then a nice /wave seeyah later shutdown our show, pack our shit and release another half assed game.
true fan is a stupid term
The game probably isn't so hyped because people are :
1) waiting to see what turbine does with DDO
2) The books have a great world and history, but they are really about the fellowship of the ring. No one playing the game is going to be an active part in it, and there's no jedi type generic group to work for like SWG had to trick people into playing. So really...what are you going to be in LoTRO ?