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cancelled my pre order - Roadkill revisited :(
Gazz41
Member Posts: 15
I finally got to play on the beta weekend in the wasteland and am sorry to say wasnt really impressed with this.
If any of you have an xbox then Auto Assault is almost a clone of the game called Roadkill, See link
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/roadkill/index.html
I played for 5 or 6 hours to get a good impression of the game and in the end just decided this wasnt for me, I really was expecting something a bit more like the old CARMAGEDEN series that used to be on the PC, But to be honest AA comes no where near the enjoyment of those games.
The mobs move at an incredable rate of speed, enemy cars and other targets seem to drive and move very unrealistically sliding rather than moving properly, and are very hard to hit
Although u can customize your cars, most of the players i met while playing all seemed to have had the same vehicles
Controls are via the keyboard and make the steering a bit difficult, Graphics and sound ok
Maybe things will change before the game is due for release in 3 months or so, but from what i have seen at the moment, i won't be buying this as originally planned.
This is just my opinion, and some of you may have a completely different view of it, once you try it for yourself, but if you are unsure as to buy it or not, Get Roadkill on the xbox and you will have a pretty good idea of what its like.
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actually i own roadkill, the only similarity to AA is the turret gun, but in Roadkill the automatic turret gun was the minimal gun. All the main weapons were controlled by you, in your own field of view like a fps. The turret gun is controlled by your npc partner in Roadkill, or by you.
The way the guns are in AA is that the main gun is the turret and is basically Tab and hold right mouse button, auto tracking with any weapon you may choose to use. absolutely no skill in using. Your tab button does all the aiming and guessing for you, all you have to do is drive close to it. leaving you to just watch the misses or the little damage number float up, similar to watching the combat from a distance. you may shoot the hell out of a enemy but the dice rolls determine if you hit or miss. They remove the direct feel of being in power and make it all automatic.
No no don't insult roadkill with a comparison to AA. I really dig Roadkill. Roadkill is a car combat game, AA is a rpg with a car for your toon if its even that.
Edited to correct the quick post errors i had. Pizza was at the door so i had to make it fast.
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I would have to agree with you on most counts there Gazz, i was really looking forward to this free weekend, but met with great disappointment.
I have a mid-range machine (2ghz, 768Mb, 128Mb 5700), but i had to lower all settings to get any decent speed out of the game. The whole game itself was very, very dark making it almost impossible to enjoy any of the graphics anyway (especially at the start in the tunnels).
Initial training was too fast and does not prepare you at all for what you are thrown into straight away. On entering the starter area after training, i found myself surrounded by 5 enemy cars and several on foot targets with no idea of how to deal with them.
I also found that mission descriptions seemed pretty good, although carrying out the missions was much harder with no specific instruction on where to find targets etc...
There could be a very good game here, but at the moment it is no-where near that.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Have to agree with OP sadly. I too cancelled my pre order, which i did with a tinge of sadness tbh. Been waiting for ages for this game and when it came it just wasnt good enough.
Shallow gameplay, insulting game mechanics and in general just down right rubbish.
I felt after playing all weekend that this is a game that many first time MMO gamers of a younger age would enjoy. Its a step up from Mario Kart or something like that ,that 8 year olds might like.
Combat is so insulting its unreal. There never any need to do anything other than circle endlessly with tabbing targets. Your skill or positioning doesnt matter, as the game uses standard mmo roll to hit routines.
Graphics were ok but you could tell it was NC Soft that had a hand in this.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions here of course, but I hope that anyone out there reading the reviews, makes their decision off of playing one of the free weekends for themselves, and not what you're reading here. The negative comments seem to be comming from the same handful people, and while the game may not suit the tastes of Wardrop, Darktounge, or RipperJack, ALOT of people are having fun with AA. The beta boards have lit up with positive feedback recently, and the number of good comments have FAR outweighed the bad.
I find it ironic that while two people in this thread complain that the game is too easy or requires no skill, there is another claiming that it was too complex, or that the gameplay came at him too fast. It doesn't matter in any event. AA is far, far from rubbish, and is worth seeing for yourself. Most people are intelligent enough to make their own decision, but in case there are people out there who base a game solely on the reviews of others, I felt this needed to be said.
If you feel there is no weight to the posts ive made then why do you feel the need to comment on them.
Id like to hear you explain for all, how there is skill involved in AA. Is hitting that tab button that tough to do?
For the years ive posted reviews and other types of posts here and on other top of the line gaming sites. Ive tested for many top named companies. Some have kept me for years on project after project.
Why cause im not a yes man nor a fanboi. Those are dime a dozen and do dick for a company. Also I give it to the gamers straight. No partial comments. Im all about the gamer. If i was making blanketed statements about a product without playing it or showing examples and such then sure id see how im just hating on a game and its developer. But defending a product with major flaws in the most basic of mechanics IS hating on the gamer cause hes the sorry SOB thats gonna waste his hard earned $$ while the rest of these companies laugh all the way to the bank.
So um instead of being a tool how about proving im wrong. And also note, the only reason im even posting this explanation is because you felt the need to post my name in your post.
I apologize to the original poster for the slight off topic hijack.
FoE Fist of the Empire
Wardrop grow up. No one believes you, or your claims, and why should we? You're a nobody to us. You insult me, call me a tool? You don't even know me. Your attitude shows a repressed 16 year old, not some gaming guru whose time and opinions are so very precious, so spare us the transparency of your claims. Keep living in that fantasy world of yours though if it makes you feel better, but don't expect anyone to buy it.
The reason I responded was to show the OTHER side of the story. Not becuase I'm a fanboy, not because I've got some vested interest in the game, but because there IS in fact, another side. Being such a hot shot gaming journalist , I figured you would have expected that, but oh wait, you're not. You're just an ignorant loudmouth who likes to hear himself talk on gaming forums. So let's drop the holier than thou attitude, ok?
My only claim was that people ARE having fun. There is ALOT of positive feedback. There are MANY people who like what they've seen. Because this game might not be for yourself, or others, doesn't mean that there isn't an entire subset of people who are playing right now, and having a blast. THAT is the other side of the story, and THAT was my claim.
How you feel, or how I feel about the skill system in this game is irrelevant. It's beta, it's under review, and we're soft capped at level 20. Further, I never called you out on your opinion of the skill requirements of this game. I made an observation based on other comments in this thread, that what was too easy for two of you, another one found fairly complex. Ironic, don't you think?
Bottom line is that you are not "all about the gamer" you are all about yourself. You don't like the game, so you don't want others to like it either. That's a common attitude. There's no need to hide behind some made up story about your background in order for the rest of us to understand. There aren't all that many people that read, or post on these forums, and to be "fair to the gamer", those that do should be aware of both sides, not just a handful of people bashing the game, and calling it rubbish.
So now that youve had your cry, wont you answer the question ive posed to you. Or do you have that size twelve to far in your wind pipe to think straight hero.
If your not a tool then why even post, if my posts have no weight why comment? No one cares right, why the insults and no rebuttal? Truth hurt?
Cry more tool
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Also lol just to um add hero if you feel the need grab ya, since im just... all talk you live ohh 35 min from me. Send me a PM and ill give you my little address and we can discuse this on a more personal lvl hero.
Unless your one of those forum pansies, then we should see another page and a half of crying about how full of it i am... you wouldnt be one of them now would ya tough guy. PM me lol
Ive always thought it more honorable to say what i have to say to a individual face to face. The reaction is that much more interesting.
Or cry more your call.
FoE Fist of the Empire
What is it you want me to reply to? You want my opinion on the skill system? If you check around you'll see I've already commented on how I felt about it. I'll say it again though, just so you can keep up. I think it could use some work, and more specifically more player involvement. There are some questions still up in the air like what effect AI and environement will have after 20, how big a part rear weapons, ornaments, and hazard modes will play, and what type of involvement the higher tiered skills will require, but right now it's a lot of blowing the crap out of stuff, and mowing over pedestrians. It's a lot of turret weapon auto fire, and not a whole lot of strategy involved.
That doesn't mean that the game is not fun however, which was my original point in this post. There are alot of people commenting on how fun they think the game is. I've heard far more people say they are pre-ordering AFTER playing this weekend than those that have said they've cancelled. Again, what is fun, or what might not take alot of skill for me (and maybe you) might be just what someone else is looking for. There isn't a whole lot of strategy required to destroy stuff right now, but again I'm not sure that's the point.
Keep editing in those insults by the way, we understand you're a little on the slow side.
I use foxfire no spell check so i do go back and correct spelling. Save the insults just pm me and we can chat face to face. Problem solved. No need to insult you here when your so close to where i live. Im not much for insulting on a game forum just not my thing hero. But it seems to be the way you deal with a conversation.
FoE Fist of the Empire
I'm all full on crazy at the moment Wardrop, so I'm gonna have to have to pass, lol. Your internet tough guy attitude has pretty much ruined any credibility you had in this thread to begin with, so I don't really know what else there is to say anyway.
Didnt think so. Save the personal insults you aint gonna do nothin but run your mouth. But if you ever get some heart to back up those insults mate you know how to go about it. My numbers in the phone book. Im ALWAYS ready to educate someone personally. Always. And my credibility is just peachy. Expect the same reaction from any grown person you deside to publically personally attack.
CLASS DISMISSED
** again i apologise to the original poster for totally hijacking his /her post to educate this individual really i am.**
FoE Fist of the Empire
Lol, the only class taught here today was "how to get the mentally deranged to invite you over for supper" - by Size_Twelve. Good try though "mate." Maybe you should just stick to editing your posts, you seem to be pretty good at that.
Auto Assault is a very fun game. I'm having a great time playing it. I don't find the AI any more difficult or any easier than any other MMO on the market. The core of the game is solid. Its fun to play and its fun to advance your character. Given some time it will be even better.
Wardrop, I'm curious how long did you actually play the game before you arrived on the scene with your thought provoking analysis? Did you get out of the newbie areas at all?
What other MMO's have you played that offer the type of PvE experience you seem to find lacking in Auto Assault? Of course the general world PvE content is not overly difficult. But, it is difficult enough that players actually do get killed by NPC's. Maybe they aren't skilled enough with the drive in cicrle and hit tab strategy.
To everybody else reading this thread, you should try playing the game yourself with an open mind. If you don't like it then thats fine. But, don't form your opinions based only on some random people from the Internet (myself included) . When the next free weekend comes around try it for yourself. Its a lot of fun.
Played for ther whole weekend. three toons got to lvl 10-15, so yea i was very much out of the lowbie start area.
Here is a link to my main post about the mechanics of the game, in case you missed it.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/580/loadthread/64598/setstart/1/loadclass/196
FoE Fist of the Empire
If the game isn't the kind you like, that's fine. Denouncing it as a failure because of that doesn't do anyone any good.
The condemnations of the game could convince people not to try it, and that's unfair to them because many of us like it a lot. That's how opinions can have "weight" but still need to be refuted.
The fact that some people think too much of Auto Assault's combat depends on positioning the car, yet others think too much depends on the RPG stats, shows that the game is walking a line. There are action elements, but the RPG system does factor in. That's turning out to be a fun mix for a lot of players.
I do think this past weekend was a dicey move by NetDevil. If you have a full gig or more of RAM, the game is pretty spectacular. If you don't... it leaves a bad impression. They're working on optimizing for systems with less RAM, but it would have been better for the game if that had happened before this open beta.
Just wanted to re-visit this post quickly to correct a small comment made by Size-Twelve. Would just like to correct the fact that i did not find the game "too complex," i said that the game does not prepare you enough for what you will encounter.
After getting through the tunnels at the start, you are taught how to repair, then you get to chase a prepared guy and shoot at him (takes about 30 seconds or less to complete that) and then you are ambushed by a single MOB on your way out, who is again dispatched very easily. The problem i had was that on my way to the noob area, you are all of a sudden in the ruins of a city and surrounded by 10+ targets and getting blown to bits and all you can do is run.
You then move on to, for want of a better description, the practice PvE track where you get to follow cars around in circles and shoot at 'em to gain xp before moving on to your first missions.
I also take PineBarons point very well, i am not writing this game off and everyone that gets the chance should try it out for size, i think that i just had much higher expectations that were just not met. Personally i hope that the developers listen to all of the critisism (well from most people) that comes from the past weekend and any future ones and pull it out of the bag, but at the moment it is just not a game that i would pay money for as it is more of a dip in for a blast fix and then back to your main gaming.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
You do know with that last post you negated everything you say from here on out. As of now you have no credibility. if you have to resort to sad threats of violence and if you dont fight or reply an any way your a wuss haha then you are just kind of sad also to all the I played for 2 hours and hated it people 2 whole hours huh wow I played for whole weekend and have kept playing and they are working on all the things you whined about its A BETA not even close to done. Also did anyone at all read the 10 different places where they spelled it out in no uncertain terms that this game was not finished and had not been optimized for lower to middles systems YET. Personally I am glad you guys arent going to be playing it we are better off without you.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Jason, please don't worry.
If you go back a few pages in this thread, you can see the posts in which another member is asking for a face-to-face meeting with someone he disagrees with, coupled with implied threats of violence. I'm sure that's what djkblue is referring to.
And my comments weren't directed at you either. You expressed your reasons for disappointment, and they make sense.
There are a handful of people who seem to be trying to discourage potential players from even considering the game, and that's what's dragged a few of us out of lurking and into commenting.
I am deeply sytupid dindt notice this had multi p[ages:( was half asleep this is post I meant to reply to
[quote:] jst to um add hero if you feel the need grab ya, since im just... all talk you live ohh 35 min from me. Send me a PM and ill give you my little address and we can discuse this on a more personal lvl hero.
Unless your one of those forum pansies, then we should see another page and a half of crying about how full of it i am... you wouldnt be one of them now would ya tough guy. PM me lol
Ive always thought it more honorable to say what i have to say to a individual face to face. The reaction is that much more interesting.
Or cry more your call.[/quote]
l free to have me shot and sorry to anyone who took ofense it wasnt meant for:( "slinks off to stupidhead village"
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Lol and what asshole are you?
Serious......
How old are you shortminded youngster? Coming up with arguments like this.....
this ones for you:
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Ui and if you want to 'try' it with me now too you might consider that i could be (but god thx arent) your dad
yep, definately a one star poster for that foolishness. i wonder if jardrop is on frappr, so we can find out who lives close enough to point and laugh at him in person...
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.