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Mixed feelings (To buy or not to buy this game)
tinytink2001
Member Posts: 42
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I read posts that say this game is the best thing since sliced bread, only to be followed by someone that says "ya but it will take you a year to get to the interesting part of the game." So can I have some confirm the just how time demanding this game is going to be. If someone plays on the weekend for about 5 hours a day is this going to be the game for them? I love pvp, but I teach during the week and just don't have time to play another game as demanding as Lineage II. I love games like L2, but do not have enough time to devote to it.
What is a fun game that will not steal your life while you attempt to stay competitive.
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From what I've seen, I can't imagine it would be too demanding on your time. You can start participating in the chip wars at level 25, and I guess it's pretty much PvP all the time from there on out. I've got around 8 hours into the game so far and got to 15 if that gives you some idea.
The game supposedly slows down ALOT after 30. I've heard people say that 30 is where the game actually begins, and the last 20 levels take a long time, BUT there is PvP all the time. It's not like you have to max your character out to start having fun.
This game is just way too linear (missions, armor, character creation...ect). I would wait for something that actually doesn't copy other games *cough*lineage*cough*.
Atleast WoW had different gameplay for different classes and the lore was way more prevalent in the game. I haven't heard anything about the story in RF Online (not that I have been looking), im just saying WoW has a GREAT cenematic when you first enter the game and it just sucks you in. I think WoW does a few things right and I think RF could strongly use them.
I think the game is just a giant grind. You grind for lvls then you grind pvp to rank up there (I think they have rankings).
EDIT: By the time this game comes out you get up to a high lvl some better games will be out so I really wouldn't invest time and money into this game.
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For the lack of armour/skills/guns variaty etc. Its a ''poor'' grind game.
Capernaum, Bethsaida, Chorazim and a particular uppty fig tree.
im not too sure what you mean by "grind" cause iv played for a total of 8 hours and i have a cora spirit at lvl 22. good points are that it does have a working auction house, quests come as you lvl, you can also turn them in anywhere. you can really get into pvp at 25 like the other person said. only downfall is it only has 3 races and low character customization. but you gotta realize too that you have a hugh class tree. If you are into sifi and a little lore, rfonline is for you.
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When open beta starts, give it a shot, you and only you will decide if RFOnline is for you. I made that mistake with wow, never joined the beta and went on the games hype, boy o boy iv never really played a childrens RPG before.... Anyway dont let anyone tell you want to do, try out the beta if you wish.
Did you even play this game or you just look at screenshots and said OMFG IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE L2!!
The camera rotation maybe somewhat similar to linage 2 and Cora elfs looks almost the same but thats about it. There is no RvRvR wars in L2, there is no pots you can drink that totally removes your downtime, there is hardly any quests in L2.
Don't even compair WoW to this. WoW is a PvE game and I could really care less about story line or whatever, I will be doing pvp wars while you sit there in IF/Org waiting for BG ques.
What you said about grind is true, you grind to get better gear then you pvp, but isn't it like that in all MMORPGs?
One thing about this too is that everyone of the same class pretty much has the same gear upgrades at this point, and even in later levels I don't think it diversifies that much.
This makes gear in RF WAAAY less important than in WoW. It's completely a non-issue. Yes, you have to have upgraded gear to compete with players, and to kill mobs that are your level, but that's a given. If you see a player that is your level in this game, you can be fairly sure that he's wearing pretty much the same thing you are with a few exceptions. This is good in that it helps ALOT with lag, and that the game is not equipment dependent. It's bad in that there isn't alot of customization you can do.
The guy above me said it best, you should just try it and see if you like it. The pre-order is only $5 US if you do it in store, and it guarantees you a spot in the beta which is supposed to last through February. I will say for the record that I don't think this game is for me come retail, but it's fun right now while waiting for some of these other '06 releases and betas.
The game definately isn't the best thing but it definately doesn't take a year to get to the good stuff. Perhaps i have been spoiled with WoW but in terms of the early game experience, it's the second most boring i have came across since Final fantasy X1.
You start off with around eight different skills where you get 1 attack for each weapon and a few buffs put in for good measure. Now from 1-30 it goes like this... Buff, normal attack times X, use your weapon's special attack every 30 seconds or so, buff, normal attack etc etc. Now to me, this is the most awfully boring MMORPG to play using this factor. Ofcourse at 30 you get a few new attacks to use but the principle still remains the same.
Don't even get me started on the class options, sure it's customisable but at the end of the day, you're going to get loads of the same class and armour sets without any variety. My only other gripe would be pot spamming instead of healing... think WoW where you're just about to kill someone and they pot but think of them doing that constantly throughout the bashing without any huge cooldown, it then becomes in 1v1 people of equal level, is determined by who has the most pots which does sound boring indeed.
I think the games only saving factor is the "coolness" of the mechs and weaponry, this ofcourse will soon go when everyone realises the game doesn't have anything to do in endgame apart from Chip wars which will soon lose it's novelty with the youth of today. I personally expect this game to be a huge flop within a few months after release. A good comparison would be biting a semi bitter apple, the first bite tastes bad but then the middle tastes good but once you start to try and savour the flavour, it gets worse and worse.
Ofcourse i am basing this off my severly limited playing experience and from spending days reading forums and finding as much info as i can about this game. I was a fanboy for a shortime and loved the idea of this game but the more info i found out, the less i loved it, i really want to love it, i really do but it's near impossible.
Guys thanks for all of your posts. I loved Lineage aside from the huge huge grind. I think that this game might be a little less demanding, and equaly fun when it comes to pvp. I think I will give it a try. Someone said to wait for open beta, but I dont think there is going to be an open beta is there. One of the things I do not like about this game is that I have heard that there is no open beta, that only pre-orders will get you in the game. I sure would like a taste of the action before I spend the $50 and make a comitment to play the game.
I am rellieved to see that ppl are able to level alot faster than L2. However, I am still wondering if the people who have played for a short time, and reporting decent level achievments but, not gaining those pt points. Don't you have to level both?
Thanks guys this is very helpful.
From my experience, this game is really good. First off its beta, so if your complaining about the little things, this isn't the polished version. The game is pvp, RvRvR based. The game was built around the fact that you have 3 races trying to dominate one world, thus pvp oriented and that is were the real fun is. The community is way better than WoW or Lineage 2. There is more group interaction in this game. I compare it a little with guild wars with the quest thing except the quest come to you. And the level grind isn't that bad. I've played about 9 hours and im lvl. 17 and pvp starts at 25. Once you hit 30 it really slows down, but thats how it should be to keep us interested in the game. I pre-ordered the game and I'm damn glad I did.
I think everything boils down to this, if you have previously played Lineage2 and liked it you will like(love) this game also. The gfx, movement, pvp will pretty much be the same. If you previously played WoW I think you will find it rather difficult to addapt to this game, the control will seem akward to you, as will everything else. Personally I like Lineage a lot because it has a lot of pvp freedom and the fact that this game is similar to it doesn't bother me at all. The skill system is completely different and better imo. In fact I wish it would be even more similar to L2 and have a more medieval feel to it rather than sci-fi (I hate za robotz
) but you can't have it all.
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I think some of your assessments are fair, but that being said, I want to point out something. It sounds to me like you are a very typical Western gamer. I don't want to generalize, because there are many exceptions. But, in general, I find that a lot of Western gamers have a short attention span, and are very quick to form lasting opinions which aer not easily broken.
For instance, many of the gripes I am hearing wouldn't be there if people just did their research and realized how they are wrong on a lot of things. i.e. Customization of armors/players.
If by customization, you mean purely visual, then I agree with you. However, later in the game, if you come across some combination of a great intense weapon, and are able to upgrade it with talics. Then you have maxed PT and great Force PT, if you go against someone your same level that isn't up to par, you will know it.
And again, if you want purely 1 vs 1 PvP, you won't find it all that often, and when you do, it will come down to who has the most pots. But, if you are at all attracted to the idea of MASS PvP like I am, I think it will be great.
Another thing, manye have stated that they are at like lvl 22 or 23 after 8 hours or less of gameplay. I'm guessing that is without paying much attention to PT levels. Maybe I'm assuming, but for me personally, I'm a Corite Warrior and at level 18, but have spent about 8 or 9 hours thus far. The leveling early is quick, but will slow down.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts to some of the concerns.
And as a side note, you said FFXI was extremely boring, again, had most people stuck with that game very long, and spent the time to actually see all of the variety that the game had to offer, I think many would have different opinions.
I say that because I recently quit the game, but only because I couldn't give my Endgame LS enough time. But it had tons of content, much more than RFO so far.
When you guys log on how many people would you say are playing this game. Is there already a decent sized community for this game? My big gripe about lineage right now on the sieghardt server is that everyone has left the the game and the community is just not what it used to be. Do you guys think this game is going to suffer the same fate? And, what server does everyone play on? I want to be where the action is.
Well I'd say right now, there is no way to tell really.
I think there are actually too many people per server right now (but they opened up a new one today, so that should help a lot). But so far, there is no problem of not enough people, not even close. I'm not sure if this game will have a ton of lasting power. But I can see playing it for 10 months or so, and having a great time, then moving on.
I think it is great for the casual gamer, you don't have to look hours for invites, and at least so far, it can be very solo-oriented if you want it to be.
Also, you will party later on, but one of the benefits to pots is that you don't have to necessarily look for a healer class or anything in order to set up a party, you can pretty much just run into 8 people around your level and do great. Since you get Exp-per hit on a mob, everything works differently/easily in a Party setting.
And that's just the PvE side of the game.
I actually don't play WoW anymore after I found endgame content lacking. I still think WoW does some things right though. I have been playing beta for RF Online aswell.
1. the quests in RF Online are all the same: Kill X amount of Y.
2. Fine you don't care about storyline but you don't speak for everyone. Some people actually like some sort of meaning to their actions in the game.
3. You mentioned pots and I actually think pots are part of what ruins the game. Its just a matter of who has more pots that will win and who can spam it faster while spamming the other spells.
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One thing about this too is that everyone of the same class pretty much has the same gear upgrades at this point, and even in later levels I don't think it diversifies that much.
This makes gear in RF WAAAY less important than in WoW. It's completely a non-issue. Yes, you have to have upgraded gear to compete with players, and to kill mobs that are your level, but that's a given. If you see a player that is your level in this game, you can be fairly sure that he's wearing pretty much the same thing you are with a few exceptions. This is good in that it helps ALOT with lag, and that the game is not equipment dependent. It's bad in that there isn't alot of customization you can do.
The guy above me said it best, you should just try it and see if you like it. The pre-order is only $5 US if you do it in store, and it guarantees you a spot in the beta which is supposed to last through February. I will say for the record that I don't think this game is for me come retail, but it's fun right now while waiting for some of these other '06 releases and betas.
LOL OMG play the game first before you bash it. It is not about the look of the item but the effects the gear gives you. and the uber drops are not so much the items but the enhancements you can add. BTW I was mining today and a big ass mob came and KO everyone . I have never seen anything like it. anyway thats my 2 cents
Please show me where I was bashing the game....I'm honestly interested in how you can quote my post and come to that conclusion. Learn to read. That's my 2 cents.