Originally posted by Velcroy I feel like this is similar to a democrat vs. republican debate. Both sides already have their minds made, up, and they are just trying to convince the other to agree. I personally really like the game. It doesn't have a lot of fluff, but there is a lot of room for expansion, if it ever comes to that. It's great for guilds to have fun raiding mob bosses, or taking on guilds from other races. The game has a lot of potential, its just that they don't feed everything to you on a spoon like some other MMO's. You have to find some of the stuff out for yourself. For instance, I initially thought that the world was very small. Then I had a quest where I had to find a specific kind of "Meat Clod". Anyway, I basically traversed the entire world trying to find it, and I finally did. Encountering an awesome pit boss that destroyed me in the process. For those that say it takes no skill...how far are you into the game? I admit that it is relatively shallow at the beginning. But if you have an attention span past that of a toddler, there is a lot to enjoy. I personally love the economy so far. You can make a ton of money, but there are plenty of money sinks as well, so it seems to even out. Anyway, read the OP's post again. This time, look how he expands on each of his topics. Every time he mentions a positive, it is an after thought. Every time he mentions a negligible downside, it is expanded on for a paragraph. Those some of his points are accurate, they are almost entirely founded on opinion, and not fact. Though labeling them like he does, seems to make it seem like he thinks they are facts. Different strokes for different folks. I love the game, plenty of others love the game. Obviously some people think it is awesome.
The fact that you "eventually traversed the whole world" - is evidence of the smallness of the gameworld - unless you did this in phase i beta or the far east version.
Its amazing -the more i read about this sorry excuse for MMO, the more i hate it. It takes a tremendous amount of skill from devs to make a game this crappy.
Originally posted by BlueDagger This was from another Post I made, but to appease the people saying "You are just bashing RF" I shall List these outin a different topic for all to see... I have posted many flaws with the game so to appease you I shall list them here again... A) KSing: The game has a kill shot rule for quest credit. Since the spawn areas are so small there has been and will be rediculous complaints with kill stealing to the point that unless a GM is at every spawn point nothing can be done. Quest system: All quests in the game are kill X number of Y monster. Don't feed me the "This game is meant for PvP not PvE" as first of all you have to grind the first 25 to even be useful in PvP and secondly you can not lvl off PvP kill hence THERE MUST BE PVE. C) Leveling: This is an eastern MMO so grind is a big part of the game, and right now the xp gained is 3x that of the eastern versions of the game. If you have to grind the first 25 lvls of the game on over camped mobs due to so few spawn grounds, at least make it interesting. In RF you use potion after potion while grinding and constantly use you only 2 attacks over and over and over for the first 30 levels of the game... fun times... D) Crafting: The crafting system is pointless till you get to making 30+ items as there are no vendors for 30+ armor. No one wants to buy the gear or weapons you make till past lvl 30 as there is vendors for that and you can not make intense lvl gear. The advance ammo you craft cost so much more ingredients then the regular stuff that the prices you have to sell at are silly like 7K for 100 rounds. Also the failure rate for crafting seems almost 60-70% failure rate and each successful crafting gives very very minimal point boost. E) Character Custimization: There is next to none, so if you like an original character look elsewhere. F) Weapons catagories: The Weapons in games are stacked by lvls, so if you are use to a game where you pick your favorite weapon and stick with it through the game, then once again looks elsewhere. The weapons become about "Ok what's the highest DPS for this lvl" except for if you want a shield then it's "What's the highest one hand DPS". For dual weild weapons you don't really "Dual Weild" weapons it is just a certain type of weapon like "Sword Breakers" that place one in each hand. G) Chip Wars: The chip wars are the central battle in the game where you fight against the other races to take someone else's "chip" by destroying a ground station. I am an american and I can say in most american played games I have seen people don't have much of a skill for focused fire, so the battle becomes a tactless zerg fest. One race runs at another only for a save few to survive and maybe do 2% damage to a chip before the defeated race zergs back at them. This is the only real PvP besides a gank of high lvls killing lvl 20s in Sette desert, so I doubt it will carry the game for a long time. Also, since the servers are shared with all of north america and europe the times of these wars are poorly placed. H) Patch and Fixes: The game is made by CCR from Korea and CM has no rights to edit code in game except for localization. Even people that played the other version of the game say that the translation has been horrible and CM has done a poor job porting. People that played the Philippians version of the game had their IPs banned so they would be forces to play the CM version and most of the them are pissed. Any bugged issues right now have to be relayed through CCR for fixes then implimented by CM and if issues occur then they have to go back to CCR... making fix times for bugs pathetic. Patches for the game and new content added will be ridiculously delayed by this process. I) Economy: The money in this game is made by two sources mining and farming. Sounds normal right? Guesss again, the game is tailored so that you will have to AFK mine all night to keep up with potions if you want to level the next day. If you don't keep logged in 24/7 you are at a severe disadvantage. Don't want to mine? Sure, there is farming for you... but oh wait, after lvl 30 you get next to no loot fighting worthwhile mobs. Of course lvling 30+ you still have to potion spam costing you plenty of cash and the extra # of people farming low lvl mobs just puts more pressure on lower lvl people trying to complete their kill X number of Y mobs. J) Partying: Parties are many used while grinding ACE mobs or leveling up your points skills. Partying for quests is pointless as due to the killshot rule you have to fight within your group to get credit for you quest in pickup groups. If you are helping a friend complete their quest you have to attack the mob till it's close to death then everyone has to pull of the enemy so the one person can get the killshot... all while dodging kill stealers. K) Leveing Points in Healing) While there are no true healers in the game ther are buff that let you regen HP and SP faster. What do you have to do to level it? Cast it over and over and over and over till you fingers bleed. After lvl 3 of the spell the point % gain from the spell is absolutely rediculous and you pretty much have to spend scountless hours at the AFK miners casting it. If you like spamming skills 24/7 then this is a game for you. L) Current Bugs: There are many current bugs with the game that are way too long to list here, so for those check out the beta forums. CM will most likely not have them fixed by release at this rate as the beta isn't really a beta it's a stress test.
The graphics are good I will give the game that. I love the anime feel to the game and it has a lot of potential, but IN MY OPINION it will never become what anyone wishes it will be and it will flop hard. I hope this post fills the voids that anyone was feeling, have a nice day.
-BlueDagger Proclaimed Basher of Games... gamer forever
Very good review, I have been wondering about this game for a while actually got a beta invite then my vid card blows up heh .... Anyways since I wasnt able to play I find your review the next best thing, like someone said you point out clearly whats wrong with this game and to be honest these are some of the things I was worried about. Thanks for saving me some cash
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
rflmao..dude ..i see carebear written all over you.If what you say is true ,and i guess you speak on behalf of all the PvP players[lol].If all you want is a quick jump to PvP ,then wtf are you playing an mmo for?Sounds to me like FPS is what you want NOT MMO.In a FPS you can get a clan and fight other clans ,exactly in the manner you point out,with no grinding,just your so called quick warp to end game.
I love it when i see total numb heads use the old THIS GAME AINT FOR YOU...or THE GO PLAY WOW caebear crap.I personally was gonna buy this game today,but being in canada i figured wouldn't be out till tomorrow.I found the original poster to be quite informative for me,and really has me on the limbo now.If the community is fulla numb heads like you ,that think all anyone wants is end game,with zero content,then deffinately isn't a good hangout for anyone....cept maybe you and a select few.
Personally i enjoyed the original post,and look beyond posts that merely sound defensive and non informative to the public that might wanna know about this game.; ;
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
There is 6 billion humans on Earth. Im pretty sure we like different things right? Unless maybe we are the borg and we all exactly the same and you are the queen borg stating that you are the only one right and your oppinion is the only one that mathers? People fail to realize is that the game is barely available its in final form and most are basing there "opinions" on a beta. And honnestly Ive seen way more worse betas than this by far. Like Asheron's Call 2, Dark and Light ( you want say crap about a game go play DnL for fun right now and tell me compare to RFO what you think of that beta lol )
So far I dont see any reviewers in whatever form has god almighty, they only got some form of opinion that is only valid for them ( unless your there clone maybe you got the same taste them them? ) MMORPGs do any of you actualy think that every MMO on the market should be exactly build and made in the image of each other with no variation than what would be the use of making different MMO than? We might has well shutdown everyone one that is not like WoW since that one is the only true MMO right? Why bother make another its bound to fail right? Im pretty sure we wont get any interrest from any of those 6 billion humans. Funny though when Anarchy Online started it was considering the worse MMO ever, crappy with alot of lag, bugs and was doom to fail. Funny how they manage to revive that game and seem to have a good following of players now.
MMOs will have different breeds its what makes there charm. If everything was a clone of each other at 100% why would I ever bother to look for a new one? Stating your opinion once about a game is good but going over and over and over about how bad a game is "FOR YOU" aint of any use. Its just showing you got a personnal vendetta about something. Some of us actualy like the game has it is and that is why we want to play it. If any MMOs was the perfection incarnate than why would any compagnie bother making other MMO, only way they could make it has good than that perfection would be to make a copie of that exact game? We are different, we have different taste, going over and over about your dislikes doesnt server much to anyone than only to know that you sir dont like that game.
Originally posted by Velcroy I feel like this is similar to a democrat vs. republican debate. Both sides already have their minds made, up, and they are just trying to convince the other to agree. I personally really like the game. It doesn't have a lot of fluff, but there is a lot of room for expansion, if it ever comes to that. It's great for guilds to have fun raiding mob bosses, or taking on guilds from other races. The game has a lot of potential, its just that they don't feed everything to you on a spoon like some other MMO's. You have to find some of the stuff out for yourself. For instance, I initially thought that the world was very small. Then I had a quest where I had to find a specific kind of "Meat Clod". Anyway, I basically traversed the entire world trying to find it, and I finally did. Encountering an awesome pit boss that destroyed me in the process. For those that say it takes no skill...how far are you into the game? I admit that it is relatively shallow at the beginning. But if you have an attention span past that of a toddler, there is a lot to enjoy. I personally love the economy so far. You can make a ton of money, but there are plenty of money sinks as well, so it seems to even out. Anyway, read the OP's post again. This time, look how he expands on each of his topics. Every time he mentions a positive, it is an after thought. Every time he mentions a negligible downside, it is expanded on for a paragraph. Those some of his points are accurate, they are almost entirely founded on opinion, and not fact. Though labeling them like he does, seems to make it seem like he thinks they are facts. Different strokes for different folks. I love the game, plenty of others love the game. Obviously some people think it is awesome.
The fact that you "eventually traversed the whole world" - is evidence of the smallness of the gameworld - unless you did this in phase i beta or the far east version.
Actually, my initial assessment was completely wrong. I thought I had seen pretty much the entire world (after running around for about 6 hours). But in later levels I found extra area after extra area. I never got to all of it, that is for sure. And I never even went to Ether (a completely different planet for exp after level 35)
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The fact that you "eventually traversed the whole world" - is evidence of the smallness of the gameworld - unless you did this in phase i beta or the far east version.
Caveat Emptor
Its amazing -the more i read about this sorry excuse for MMO, the more i hate it. It takes a tremendous amount of skill from devs to make a game this crappy.
Very good review, I have been wondering about this game for a while actually got a beta invite then my vid card blows up heh
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
but, thx for ur advise anyway~
rflmao..dude ..i see carebear written all over you.If what you say is true ,and i guess you speak on behalf of all the PvP players[lol].If all you want is a quick jump to PvP ,then wtf are you playing an mmo for?Sounds to me like FPS is what you want NOT MMO.In a FPS you can get a clan and fight other clans ,exactly in the manner you point out,with no grinding,just your so called quick warp to end game.
I love it when i see total numb heads use the old THIS GAME AINT FOR YOU...or THE GO PLAY WOW caebear crap.I personally was gonna buy this game today,but being in canada i figured wouldn't be out till tomorrow.I found the original poster to be quite informative for me,and really has me on the limbo now.If the community is fulla numb heads like you ,that think all anyone wants is end game,with zero content,then deffinately isn't a good hangout for anyone....cept maybe you and a select few.
Personally i enjoyed the original post,and look beyond posts that merely sound defensive and non informative to the public that might wanna know about this game.; ;
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
There is 6 billion humans on Earth. Im pretty sure we like different things right? Unless maybe we are the borg and we all exactly the same and you are the queen borg stating that you are the only one right and your oppinion is the only one that mathers? People fail to realize is that the game is barely available its in final form and most are basing there "opinions" on a beta. And honnestly Ive seen way more worse betas than this by far. Like Asheron's Call 2, Dark and Light ( you want say crap about a game go play DnL for fun right now and tell me compare to RFO what you think of that beta lol )
So far I dont see any reviewers in whatever form has god almighty, they only got some form of opinion that is only valid for them ( unless your there clone maybe you got the same taste them them? ) MMORPGs do any of you actualy think that every MMO on the market should be exactly build and made in the image of each other with no variation than what would be the use of making different MMO than? We might has well shutdown everyone one that is not like WoW since that one is the only true MMO right? Why bother make another its bound to fail right? Im pretty sure we wont get any interrest from any of those 6 billion humans. Funny though when Anarchy Online started it was considering the worse MMO ever, crappy with alot of lag, bugs and was doom to fail. Funny how they manage to revive that game and seem to have a good following of players now.
MMOs will have different breeds its what makes there charm. If everything was a clone of each other at 100% why would I ever bother to look for a new one? Stating your opinion once about a game is good but going over and over and over about how bad a game is "FOR YOU" aint of any use. Its just showing you got a personnal vendetta about something. Some of us actualy like the game has it is and that is why we want to play it. If any MMOs was the perfection incarnate than why would any compagnie bother making other MMO, only way they could make it has good than that perfection would be to make a copie of that exact game? We are different, we have different taste, going over and over about your dislikes doesnt server much to anyone than only to know that you sir dont like that game.
The fact that you "eventually traversed the whole world" - is evidence of the smallness of the gameworld - unless you did this in phase i beta or the far east version.
Actually, my initial assessment was completely wrong. I thought I had seen pretty much the entire world (after running around for about 6 hours). But in later levels I found extra area after extra area. I never got to all of it, that is for sure. And I never even went to Ether (a completely different planet for exp after level 35)